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dorsal999
05-07-2010, 06:59 AM
this can only taught by the kids parents

coachstew
05-07-2010, 07:19 AM
this can only taught by the kids parents

is there an article or something for this?? Can you give us a little more detail please?? I"m curious

BathRamsFan
05-07-2010, 07:32 AM
please explain the situation?

baidog
05-07-2010, 07:42 AM
is there an article or something for this?? Can you give us a little more detail please?? I"m curious

check the D & C

exlaxer78
05-07-2010, 07:59 AM
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20100507/NEWS01/5070339/Brighton-calls-for-changes-after-anti-Semitic-remarks-mar-game-with-East-Rochester

When "trash talk" goes too far. It's the one thing I hate about sports. I dont think I'm old fashioned but I just do not remember this type of behavior during my HS or college playing days. Maybe my memory has faded but, I'm not sure this type of behavior even existed. I also don't remember so many parents "coaching" from the sideline but that is another matter :D.

I would be a huge advocate of the chages suggested in the article. In fact I've always believed that when trash talking gets out of hand, a misconduct or unsportsmanllike call should be made.

Diversity training is great but, like someone suggested....It starts in the HOME. Parents, we are all personally responsible. Set the example.

coachstew
05-07-2010, 08:04 AM
totally unacceptable, hopefully the AD and coach at ER will deal with these two on a pretty harsh level.

strawsome
05-07-2010, 10:09 AM
Not a lot of good press for lacrosse lately (i.e. UVA).

adAms08
05-07-2010, 10:23 AM
As someone who grew up in ER, I was appalled when I read this article. It's sad that these two kids, whoever they are, would represent themselves and their school like this. I am proud of the response from the Superintendent from ER, who said that the players' behavior was "personally and professionally embarrassing" to him, and that it is not representative of the community. I am also proud that the other kids on the team did not support those two players.

The most unfortunate part, though, is that this is not an isolated incident. The Brighton kids quoted in the article make it pretty clear that this happens to them a lot, and that's just unacceptable. When "trash talk" turns into anti-semitic or blatantly racist comments, then those kids, I don't care where they are from, don't belong on the field anymore.

As much as I am a supporter of ER athletics, I really hope that these two kids are kicked off the team and possibly even suspended from school. I also hope that the measures that the AD at Brighton are calling for are implemented in the future so that this doesn't continue to happen.

UNCTarheels
05-07-2010, 10:39 AM
Schools react to slurs (http://www.mpnnow.com/sports/x1920411384/Schools-react-to-slurs)-Daily Messenger

dorsal999
05-07-2010, 10:58 AM
This event happened 2 years ago , the Youth football program was playing a town nearby , and after the game the 2 teams walk down the 50 yard line to shake hands , when we got back to the sideline a few of the kids had been given change by the other team as they passed each other. I approached the coach and asked him about the reasoning behind this , his exact quote was " you know Jewish kids tight with money" . I was floored by his comment. This was a game between kids that were ages 7-9 , so its clear to see its in the home lives the problem.

OldSchool78
05-07-2010, 12:15 PM
As someone who grew up in ER, I was appalled when I read this article. It's sad that these two kids, whoever they are, would represent themselves and their school like this. I am proud of the response from the Superintendent from ER, who said that the players' behavior was "personally and professionally embarrassing" to him, and that it is not representative of the community. I am also proud that the other kids on the team did not support those two players.

The most unfortunate part, though, is that this is not an isolated incident. The Brighton kids quoted in the article make it pretty clear that this happens to them a lot, and that's just unacceptable. When "trash talk" turns into anti-semitic or blatantly racist comments, then those kids, I don't care where they are from, don't belong on the field anymore.

As much as I am a supporter of ER athletics, I really hope that these two kids are kicked off the team and possibly even suspended from school. I also hope that the measures that the AD at Brighton are calling for are implemented in the future so that this doesn't continue to happen.

There are rules in place for trash talking, or any unsportsmanlike act for that matter. An official must HEAR IT or SEE IT. As an official, it would be pretty difficult for me to penalize another player for something because an opposing player said they heard him or saw him do something.

I am POSITIVE that trash talking takes place in games that I have officiated. I have doled out the appropriate penalties when I witnessed it. IMO, what happened in the lacrosse game was more than calling a kid a "Jew". As a matter of fact, that would be like another player taunting me with "Catholic" or insert whatever religion/ethnicity you choose. To me that would be unpunishable, after all, I am Catholic LOL. If he called me a "Catholic Pedophile", that would be a different story. The D and C article IMO is poorly written. I would like to know more of the facts. What really was said?

OldSchool78
05-07-2010, 12:20 PM
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20100507/NEWS01/5070339/Brighton-calls-for-changes-after-anti-Semitic-remarks-mar-game-with-East-Rochester

When "trash talk" goes too far. It's the one thing I hate about sports. I dont think I'm old fashioned but I just do not remember this type of behavior during my HS or college playing days. Maybe my memory has faded but, I'm not sure this type of behavior even existed. I also don't remember so many parents "coaching" from the sideline but that is another matter :D.

I would be a huge advocate of the chages suggested in the article. In fact I've always believed that when trash talking gets out of hand, a misconduct or unsportsmanllike call should be made.

Diversity training is great but, like someone suggested....It starts in the HOME. Parents, we are all personally responsible. Set the example.

As somebody that played basketball in a league made up mostly of black players, the now defunct City-Catholic League, I can not recall any trash talking what so ever. It just didn't happen. I also agree that there are way to many "parent coaches" from the stand. This might be better saved for another day/topic, but I do believe that it starts at home. When my kids were playing in high school I made sure that they were to never say anything negative to an official. Never talk trash to an opponent, The best way to show them you mean business is to kick the crap out of them on the court. Knock them down, but always help them up.

strawsome
05-07-2010, 12:46 PM
There are rules in place for trash talking, or any unsportsmanlike act for that matter. An official must HEAR IT or SEE IT. As an official, it would be pretty difficult for me to penalize another player for something because an opposing player said they heard him or saw him do something.

I am POSITIVE that trash talking takes place in games that I have officiated. I have doled out the appropriate penalties when I witnessed it. IMO, what happened in the lacrosse game was more than calling a kid a "Jew". As a matter of fact, that would be like another player taunting me with "Catholic" or insert whatever religion/ethnicity you choose. To me that would be unpunishable, after all, I am Catholic LOL. If he called me a "Catholic Pedophile", that would be a different story. The D and C article IMO is poorly written. I would like to know more of the facts. What really was said?

I'd hate to dismiss this as simple trash talk. Also regardless of how poor the article was, the superintendent was admittedly embarrassed of their actions, enought to warrant disciplinary action.

OldSchool78
05-07-2010, 12:51 PM
I'd hate to dismiss this as simple trash talk. Also regardless of how poor the article was, the superintendent was admittedly embarrassed of their actions, enought to warrant disciplinary action.

I don't think it was simple trash talk either. I would just like to know the severity. Also, I think the ER Super should do something, but before we all applaud him for doing whatever he does, we should know what transpired. A simple fact is that alot of people want to rush to judgment before all of the facts are heard/collected.

If the plyers made any type of reference to the Holocaust for example, that would require a severe penalty IMO.

sectionv915
05-07-2010, 05:40 PM
I know a similar situation happened when Brighton played Aquinas last year and a few kids got suspended

adAms08
05-07-2010, 08:56 PM
If the plyers made any type of reference to the Holocaust for example, that would require a severe penalty IMO.

From the D&C article, 3rd sentence: "The comments referenced the Holocaust, said Brighton Superintendent Kevin McGowan."

OldSchool78
05-08-2010, 07:39 AM
From the D&C article, 3rd sentence: "The comments referenced the Holocaust, said Brighton Superintendent Kevin McGowan."

Maybe I should pay more attention when reading........