Padding Stats

[hilly]

I've read a few posts recently about teams padding stats, especially tackles. It isn't just any one team that does it. Most of them do it.
I wrote up one game a couple of weeks ago where the leading tackler had 19, two kids had 17 and one had 15. That's 68 tackles between four players!
And this is one of the more respected coaches around that reported this. I don't think it's as much the offensive numbers that get padded, but I do see it with tackles all the time.
I don't trust very many team's tackle stats.

[hilly]

I have to laugh when I do my roundups when I get back from games on Friday nights. One team will have the 68 tackles from four guys and the next call will have a leading tackler with five.
I'm always on the sideline during games and one of these days I want to get credited with an assist when the stop is made near me.

[joeZam1]

Thats funny Hilly! The way my guy used to chart tackles was this...If you arrive first and seal the deal you get one tackle..if you arrive 2nd, 3rd, 4th,5th.you get 1/2 tackle...My assistants and I then checked on film and Ray was pretty accurate. I remember a day when one of my guys was credited with 22 tackles and the announcer was calling his name all day..a few disgruntled haters were rolling their eyes...so I watched the film and actually counted 27 tackles! LOL...YOU cant win being a coach, you just have to love the kids and have a passion for the game..Some parents are great to work with, some are not so great..but you getting an assist thats awesome!

[overnback]

how they got so many. You gave almost half your defense 1/2 a tackle on every play. Is this the standard way of crediting tackles or is this something you came up with? Just curious.

[lbcoach45]

how they got so many. You gave almost half your defense 1/2 a tackle on every play. Is this the standard way of crediting tackles or is this something you came up with? Just curious.

Our standard is the first one gets a tackle, second one gets an assist. Solo's are just that, one guy making the tackle. That's the way Whitman does it. Tackles are usually checked after the fact to make sure they add up to what the offense ran. No wonder guys are averaging twenty tackles a game when you get a 1/2 if you just hit the pile. I would have had some awesome stats in school, I was always jumping on a pile.

[joeZam1]

Just to clear it up, the only way we gave a 1/2 is if they aided in the take down. If they jumped on the pile after the fact they got nil.

[hilly]

Just to clear it up, the only way we gave a 1/2 is if they aided in the take down. If they jumped on the pile after the fact they got nil.




then how come the waterboy averaged 6 1/2 tackles per game?

[Mustangs24]

I got four tackles on my way to the computer, making up for lost time as an ex-offensive lineman who only got to move people out of the way. When coaching football at an unnamed school to protect the guilty I remember our "stats" people (JV kids basically) padding more than I could believe. We had kids who played five minutes of the game leaving with 5-6 tackles - and they were on offense. You'd always hear a kid say "I only got 5, you need to fix that - I got 15" or something like that to pad there own. That's why we were always watching the video to make sure they were right. Can't say how much a good stats person is worth, it's huge!

[lbcoach45]

Just to clear it up, the only way we gave a 1/2 is if they aided in the take down. If they jumped on the pile after the fact they got nil.

I guess my stats wouldn't have been much better then. I remember my senior year, a kid who couldn't get on the field keeping defensive stats. Kids (never me, I swear) would run over to him when they got a break and tell him to put a few more tackles down. We would get stickers for tackles and it pissed me off to see these guys with full helmets who only made a quarter of the tackles they got credit for. The kid didn't like me, so I never got any extra, in fact I think he screwed me over pretty good. Atleast I have been able to move on over the years.

[TurnTwo]

I've read a few posts recently about teams padding stats, especially tackles. It isn't just any one team that does it. Most of them do it.
I wrote up one game a couple of weeks ago where the leading tackler had 19, two kids had 17 and one had 15. That's 68 tackles between four players!
And this is one of the more respected coaches around that reported this. I don't think it's as much the offensive numbers that get padded, but I do see it with tackles all the time.
I don't trust very many team's tackle stats.

Teams will rarely ever even have 68 offensive plays from scrimmage per game. That is ridiculous.