Batavia Football

[Prouddad59]

Its tough for you guys playing in Monroe County. I got a solution for you, how about Batavia and Attica both join Livingston County League? Probably help you guys out. As for Attica they wouldn't be beaten up on D schools all year and then get to the sectionals and get beat every year... Just a thought

[hilly]

Batavia tried to do that a while back, but BHS is too big for Livingston for the most part. Batavia is a B this year, but is an A most years and that option got shot down real fast when it came up.
The best solution is for Batavia to continue to struggle in the Monroe County League and for Attica to go Indy. Batavia does well in sectionals - look at hockey two years ago - because it plays bigger schools. Attica has the option to continue to do well in the regular season and lose in sectionals or start playing bigger schools during the season.

[ref301]

This applies to all Attica's boy's sports. There have been some great athletes at Attica in multiple sports that have had the disappointment of being beat in Sectionals every year of their careers because of the competition that they face during the season. For lack of a better term, they are not "battle tested" when they get to Sectionals. The district is big enough to supply the athletes, they just need to face better competition (this is not a dig at the other GR schools, it's a size discusion) year in and year out. It will take time, but higher level competition will strengthen the programs in the long run.

[Berask]

Batavia tried to do that a while back, but BHS is too big for Livingston for the most part. Batavia is a B this year, but is an A most years and that option got shot down real fast when it came up.
The best solution is for Batavia to continue to struggle in the Monroe County League and for Attica to go Indy. Batavia does well in sectionals - look at hockey two years ago - because it plays bigger schools. Attica has the option to continue to do well in the regular season and lose in sectionals or start playing bigger schools during the season.

Batavia cannot join the Livingston County League because of the succes of its basketball team. The basketball team would completely beat up on every single team that Livingston County can throw at them. It would be a great move for the other sports at Batavia but the basketball team spoils it. A few years ago they applied for the transition but they were denied due to the basketball team.

[CARL]

This applies to all Attica's boy's sports. There have been some great athletes at Attica in multiple sports that have had the disappointment of being beat in Sectionals every year of their careers because of the competition that they face during the season. For lack of a better term, they are not "battle tested" when they get to Sectionals. The district is big enough to supply the athletes, they just need to face better competition (this is not a dig at the other GR schools, it's a size discusion) year in and year out. It will take time, but higher level competition will strengthen the programs in the long run.

I'm sorry but the Attica sports are doing just fine! The girls cross country has won 4 straight sectional titles. The wrestling team has won several sectional titles and has won individual state titles. Also, the boys soccer team won a sectional title in 2005. The girls volleyball team won a sectional title last year.

[sandman20]

I'm sorry but the Attica sports are doing just fine! The girls cross country has won 4 straight sectional titles. The wrestling team has won several sectional titles and has won individual state titles. Also, the boys soccer team won a sectional title in 2005. The girls volleyball team won a sectional title last year.

Carl he said attica BOYS sport you just named 2 girls sports well three if u count boys soccer, and a indivual sport, and they compete in the GR league....The boys teams always beat up on the small schools...the boy athletic are bad the always do good in season and when they get to the same size school they lose....FOOTBALL< BASKETBALL.......

[CARL]

Carl he said attica BOYS sport you just named 2 girls sports well three if u count boys soccer, and a indivual sport, and they compete in the GR league....The boys teams always beat up on the small schools...the boy athletic are bad the always do good in season and when they get to the same size school they lose....FOOTBALL< BASKETBALL.......

Attica Sports

Boys Soccer sectional Champs 2005
Wrestling Sectional Team Champs 4 times

Sorry that soccer threatens your macho ego.

[rockandroll34]

Batavia cannot join the Livingston County League because of the succes of its basketball team. The basketball team would completely beat up on every single team that Livingston County can throw at them. It would be a great move for the other sports at Batavia but the basketball team spoils it. A few years ago they applied for the transition but they were denied due to the basketball team.

Berask, are you serious? You know absolutely nothing about why Batavia wasn't allowed in the LCAA — it had nothing to do with basketball.
And by the way, maybe the last few years Batavia would have dominated (maybe 9-1 or 8-2 league) but they would have taken their share of beatings in prior years.

Even Perry has whipped Batavia in the past. What would Batavia had done against a good LCAA team.

[Berask]

Berask, are you serious? You know absolutely nothing about why Batavia wasn't allowed in the LCAA — it had nothing to do with basketball.
And by the way, maybe the last few years Batavia would have dominated (maybe 9-1 or 8-2 league) but they would have taken their share of beatings in prior years.

Even Perry has whipped Batavia in the past. What would Batavia had done against a good LCAA team.

Explain to me the teams in the LCAA that could seriously beat Batavia on a regular basis? I would like to know. Perry and HFL are the only two teams I believe could get close to Batavia.

Batavia applied for the transition right after the departure of Phil Santiago. But they still had an unbelievable player in Mike Chmielowic and Justin Williams, a 4 year varsity player, coming into the starting lineup. They denied the transition and Batavia has stayed in the MCL.

And when was the last time Perry took it to Batavia in basketball? You must never see Batavia play because they are a lot better than the teams in LCAA.

[baidog]

Livonia many years, Hornell at times like any league Batavia would have tough games with the top 2 or 3 schools in DI and depending on the year the best team in D2 or D3. Batavia has been real good for a number of years now because of the program the coach has set up and talented kids

[football#1]

Lets face it.Batavia will be in Monroe league for awhile until section V decides to restructure, which will be forever.Theyre too big for Livingston,too far for Finger Lakes so they'll have to make the best of it.Since theyre the only B team in Monroe,a simple solution might have been to take the AA teams out of their division and replace them with A teams,so at least their only playing 1 class up all season instead of two.The problem with that is that monroe class A doesnt have enough teams(only 2)and they already play in the same division as Batavia.
Why cant they go independent?.I know Basketball and baseball have done well but most of the other programs have struggled against the bigger schools.Wrestling doesn't have enough guys to win even if every guy won their weight class,soccer struggles every year,boys track doesn't win very many meets,Lacrosse may never win a game,and the list goes on.These kids gotta be sick of losing year in and year out.Until programs show some success,they are not going to get kids to play.

[hilly]

to be totally honest, the reason Batavia has some sports that can't compete is because the school has too many sports.
Nothing against sports like lacrosse, but the school is not big enough to support all of these smaller sports. How many quality baseball players or track athletes were on the lacrosse roster this year?
The football team is dealing with low numbers and football is a sport that basically takes a year-round commitment. The school needs to quit adding new sports - even drop a couple of programs - and focus on the ones that have been around for a long time.

[AllDayEveryDay]

Agreed. Maybe the A.D their shouldn't be concerned with just one or two sports but worry about all the sports. Moving Batavia out of Monroe would not only bring better competition amongst the teams they will play i guarantee many teams would win a sectional title

[Berask]

to be totally honest, the reason Batavia has some sports that can't compete is because the school has too many sports.
Nothing against sports like lacrosse, but the school is not big enough to support all of these smaller sports. How many quality baseball players or track athletes were on the lacrosse roster this year?
The football team is dealing with low numbers and football is a sport that basically takes a year-round commitment. The school needs to quit adding new sports - even drop a couple of programs - and focus on the ones that have been around for a long time.

I completely agree with you. Another thing is that a lot of kids are lazy (including myself) and don't want to put in the extra effort to play other sports. This year I am a one sport athlete and I'll be the one to tell you it's due to my laziness. I'm looking to change that and so should the other kids in my school. It's high school. Friends and parties come and go, the memories you have going out on the field and competing with your team is what you'll always remember. My father still tells me stories about when he was in high school playing sports. So this definitely contributes to the low numbers on sports teams. And I know for a fact some coaches at my school try to persuade kids to play their sport instead of another sport. My indoor track team has done well, but a lot of kids that have joined that squad in the past have been good basketball players. Although sports are a good thing, too many can definitely be negative.

Good point Hilly.

[rockandroll34]

Explain to me the teams in the LCAA that could seriously beat Batavia on a regular basis? I would like to know. Perry and HFL are the only two teams I believe could get close to Batavia.

Batavia applied for the transition right after the departure of Phil Santiago. But they still had an unbelievable player in Mike Chmielowic and Justin Williams, a 4 year varsity player, coming into the starting lineup. They denied the transition and Batavia has stayed in the MCL.

And when was the last time Perry took it to Batavia in basketball? You must never see Batavia play because they are a lot better than the teams in LCAA.



Livonia, Hornell, Perry, Letchworth and HF-L
could all beat Batavia on any given night.

Two years ago, Pittsford Sutherland beat Batavia, and Livonia dumped P-S in sectionals.

[Berask]

Livonia, Hornell, Perry, Letchworth and HF-L
could all beat Batavia on any given night.

Two years ago, Pittsford Sutherland beat Batavia, and Livonia dumped P-S in sectionals.

A few years ago Batavia played in Livonias tip off tourney and faced them in the finals both years. They man handled them both games. I'll give you the fact that Perry and HF-L could maybe compete with Batavia but as for the other teams I'll have to disagree.

[basketballislife]

hahahahahaha livonia? i don't know if you recall, but batavia was in a two year committment to be in the livonia tip off tournament five years ago. In the first year of the commitment, batavia slaughtered waterloo i believe it was in the first round, only to manhandle livonia by about 50 in the finals. Cosequently, livonia cancelled the rest of batavia's committment, apparently wishing to have a chance to win their own tip off tourney. livonia? haha please, batavia would have slaughtered any team in the LCL for about the past eight seasons.

[basketballislife]

haha also rockandroll, that year you are referring to where ps beat batavia, i don't know if you remember but batavia went on to beat heavily favored geneva in the sectionals and advanced all the way to the state final four in glens falls...where was livonia?

[Berask]

haha also rockandroll, that year you are referring to where ps beat batavia, i don't know if you remember but batavia went on to beat heavily favored geneva in the sectionals and advanced all the way to the state final four in glens falls...where was livonia?

I appreciate the backup. This guyis obviously confused. Whens the last time Livonia competed with Batavia. Name the year and the score. And name the last time anyone from the LCAA beat Batavia. Name the year and score. Might have to look back a ways their sir.

[hilly]

I have to agree with the pro-Batavia posts (big surprise). Buddy Brasky has put together THE BEST basketball program in the area and there is no reason to believe Batavia hoops can't compete in Monroe County and would dominate just about every other league around.
You can say HF-L or Livonia all you want, and I know Perry can give Batavia a run here and there, but if Batavia played an 18 game Livingston Conference schedule, the team would probably average 15-16 wins per year.
If you don't watch Monroe County hoops, you aren't going to know how good the level of competition there is. As good as the football and baseball is in Monroe County, it is a basketball league and for Batavia to be as good as it has been in recent years shows how good the program is.
I'm pretty sure the 10 Hoy kids and Anderson could play with any team in the area this year.

[Berask]

I have to agree with the pro-Batavia posts (big surprise). Buddy Brasky has put together THE BEST basketball program in the area and there is no reason to believe Batavia hoops can't compete in Monroe County and would dominate just about every other league around.
You can say HF-L or Livonia all you want, and I know Perry can give Batavia a run here and there, but if Batavia played an 18 game Livingston Conference schedule, the team would probably average 15-16 wins per year.
If you don't watch Monroe County hoops, you aren't going to know how good the level of competition there is. As good as the football and baseball is in Monroe County, it is a basketball league and for Batavia to be as good as it has been in recent years shows how good the program is.
I'm pretty sure the 10 Hoy kids and Anderson could play with any team in the area this year.

Hahaha 10 Hoy kids. Their is actually 4 and they are all on varsity. Andrew Hoy being a freshman and he has a GREAT chance to start. Mike Hoy, last years leading scorer, coming back, Marcus Hoy a very good point guard who can hit the jumper and ball handle almost anyone to death, and Rob Hoy who is a real good jump shooter and plays lights out defense and will get good playing time this year. Although they have less size (other than Anderson) than last year, they have the speed, defense and shooting to make up for it. Look for Batavia to go deep into sectionals. They have a deep squad with most of their bench being able to start and average double digit points on any Livingston County team.

[rockandroll34]

hahahahahaha livonia? i don't know if you recall, but batavia was in a two year committment to be in the livonia tip off tournament five years ago. In the first year of the commitment, batavia slaughtered waterloo i believe it was in the first round, only to manhandle livonia by about 50 in the finals. Cosequently, livonia cancelled the rest of batavia's committment, apparently wishing to have a chance to win their own tip off tourney. livonia? haha please, batavia would have slaughtered any team in the LCL for about the past eight seasons.

Oh, so you are saying they would have beaten Livonia's 2001 sectional title team with Kevin Downey.
Yeah right buddy. Livonia wins that game by 25 easily.
That team, along with Perry and HF-L that same year would have drilled any Batavia team you've had over there.
And just think, none of the above mentioned teams have any state correctional facility residents.

[rockandroll34]

I have to agree with the pro-Batavia posts (big surprise). Buddy Brasky has put together THE BEST basketball program in the area and there is no reason to believe Batavia hoops can't compete in Monroe County and would dominate just about every other league around.
You can say HF-L or Livonia all you want, and I know Perry can give Batavia a run here and there, but if Batavia played an 18 game Livingston Conference schedule, the team would probably average 15-16 wins per year.
If you don't watch Monroe County hoops, you aren't going to know how good the level of competition there is. As good as the football and baseball is in Monroe County, it is a basketball league and for Batavia to be as good as it has been in recent years shows how good the program is.
I'm pretty sure the 10 Hoy kids and Anderson could play with any team in the area this year.

First of all, lets not get carried away here. Batavia doesn't play in the Monore County League with Rush-Henrietta, Fairport or Gates. They play in the Monroe County D-III league, there's a big difference there my friend.
It's not like Batavia has to take on the heavyweights of that county, they play a ton of crappy teams in MCL D-III.
So "No" Batavia isn't amongst Section V's elite.

[hilly]

First of all, lets not get carried away here. Batavia doesn't play in the Monore County League with Rush-Henrietta, Fairport or Gates. They play in the Monroe County D-III league, there's a big difference there my friend.
It's not like Batavia has to take on the heavyweights of that county, they play a ton of crappy teams in MCL D-III.
So "No" Batavia isn't amongst Section V's elite.


Riiiight ... because Sutherland is a garbage program. And Mendon and Brighton are walks in the park. And that Monroe County League tournament, where the big boys play the little boys, doesn't mean anything.

[Berask]

First of all, lets not get carried away here. Batavia doesn't play in the Monore County League with Rush-Henrietta, Fairport or Gates. They play in the Monroe County D-III league, there's a big difference there my friend.
It's not like Batavia has to take on the heavyweights of that county, they play a ton of crappy teams in MCL D-III.
So "No" Batavia isn't amongst Section V's elite.

You're forgetting that teams play each other by class. Batavia doesn't play MC elite teams because they are classes below them. You know nothing about MC basketball. Stick to talking about your weak livingston county league.

[rockandroll34]

It's not my Livingston County league, I'm from Finger Lakes where I know our basketball sucks.
I just know your points are BS.
Look at Batavia's schedule last year, and by the way, how'd they do in sectionals???

[rockandroll34]

You're nuts dude. All I was trying to point out was that what you say is ridiculous. You make no sense and you think Livonia is the god of basketball haha. Come on, take a vacation from your sports writing, it seems you need it.

Wow, batavia went 14-6 last year, that should put them on top of the mountain.
They beat Eastridge (5-15), Pitt-Mendon (12-8) and Pitt-Sutherland (10-10), now that's a tough MC D-III league.

Brasky's the most overrated coach in Section V.

[hilly]

Brasky's the most overrated coach in Section V.


You know nothing.
I cover 20-something schools and who knows how many sports, and Brasky is one of the elite coaches in the area. He's up there with Brian Moran, John Dowd, Mike Rapone, Bill Sutherland (when he was around), Dan Gilbert ...
Batavia is the smallest school in the Monroe County League and competes for the D-III title every year. And the team hasn't exactly been a slouch in sectionals.
Look at the quality of players that have come out of the program and it's amazing. Phil Santiago, Mike Chmielowiec, Justin Williams, Kevin Saunders, Mike Hoy. Any one of these players would be the best in your crappy Finger Lakes and I'll take Santiago, Chmielowiec or Hoy along with any player to come out of Livingston in a long time ... and this includes Downey. If Santiago doesn't go to GCC and get screwed over by that coach, he has a great D-III career at Brockport and ends with a legacy as good as Mark Wadhams was.
Chmielowiec was the leading scorer on an 18-8 U of R team last year.
People can say what they want about how Brasky coaches a game, but his ability to develop players and get them motivated to play is top-notch.
Maybe you should try watching some quality basketball. Finger Lakes is a joke.

[rockandroll34]

You have resorted to picking on a 16 year old kid. You know what, I feel bad for you. Did your parents hate you? Or maybe you had a bad divorce? Or maybe you're just naturally miserable. Take a few days off, I'm telling you it will work.

And explain to me how Brasky is overrated?

For a 16 year old kid to be on this all day, that's pretty pathetic, but I guess you know that already.

[rockandroll34]

Look at the quality of players that have come out of the program and it's amazing. Phil Santiago, Mike Chmielowiec, Justin Williams, Kevin Saunders, Mike Hoy. Any one of these players would be the best in your crappy Finger Lakes and I'll take Santiago, Chmielowiec or Hoy along with any player to come out of Livingston in a long time ... and this includes Downey.


If I remember correctly didn't Kevin Downey go on to play four years at D-I Canisius.
How can you compare GCC or U of R with a NCAA D-I program.
You are misguided my friend.

[hilly]

Look at the quality of players that have come out of the program and it's amazing. Phil Santiago, Mike Chmielowiec, Justin Williams, Kevin Saunders, Mike Hoy. Any one of these players would be the best in your crappy Finger Lakes and I'll take Santiago, Chmielowiec or Hoy along with any player to come out of Livingston in a long time ... and this includes Downey.


If I remember correctly didn't Kevin Downey go on to play four years at D-I Canisius.
How can you compare GCC or U of R with a NCAA D-I program.
You are misguided my friend. Go back to being Brasky's bitc!!!!!


I'm not going to trash Downey because he was a very good player. But if you've ever seen Chmielowiec play, you would see that he was as good a player. That kid knew he wasn't going to play pro basketball and went to a school where he felt he could get the best education.
rockandroll34, you are always on here picking fights with people and half the time you just don't know what you are talking about.
And it's better for a 16-year old kid to be on here all day than doing a lot of other things. What kind of person would take a shot at a kid anyway?

[rockandroll34]

I'm not going to trash Downey because he was a very good player. But if you've ever seen Chmielowiec play, you would see that he was as good a player. That kid knew he wasn't going to play pro basketball and went to a school where he felt he could get the best education.
rockandroll34, you are always on here picking fights with people and half the time you just don't know what you are talking about.
And it's better for a 16-year old kid to be on here all day than doing a lot of other things. What kind of person would take a shot at a kid anyway?

Dude, you don't know me. That berask is way out of line for some of the things he writes, way out of line, especially for some 16 year old who doesn't have the heart or guts to put on the football jersey and instead trash his teammates publicly — aka see conors 72.
As for Chlomweicz or whatever, I did see him play at least five times, he was a good player, not great but good.

[conors72]

i think this isn't a football thread anymore...

[basketballislife]

and i forgot to mention...

brasky inherited a batavia basketball program that was the laughing stock of the area. they were 2-18 the year before he took over, and 13-7 in his first year. within a decade, he led them to a sectional championship, which people would have laughed at someone for even sufggesting five years earlier. since, they have won 8 consecutive monroe county titles, another sectional title, and a trip to beautiful glens falls...

what im trying to say is, get your head out of your ass and read a book or something cuz you are a very confused individual

[easyrsaidthandone]

Pretty true what you wrote! Brasky is a great coach, some people just take him the absolute wrong way..Speaking of all this, it reminds me of Zambito at Elba, he took a down basketball program, and Won a title in 4 years, won 3-4 Gr titles in football in 7 years and a sectional title and got fired.Some losers cantstand WINNERS! Like coach brasky,zambito was and will be a winner.CoachB, keep up the work, and Berask, Im with you all the way