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section5v33
10-22-2007, 09:42 AM
Class D should be interesting this year.
-Prattsburgh has moved down to class D
-Northstar should be decent again
-Whitesville is always a contender

So who do you think is the favorite?

I think that Northstar, led by Beckford in his senior year, will finally win sectionals after losing close title games the last 2 years.

UNCTarheels
10-22-2007, 09:52 AM
#1 Prattsburgh-Despite the graduation of 6'6" Eli Applebaum & 6'7" Patrick Wright along with Rebounder Jake Socola The Vikings could win Sectionals with Speedy Wade Fuller at Point along with several newcomers. Speed will be the game this year.

#2 Northstar-Beckford is back and could provide a match up problem for several teams, their weak schedule hurts them when they get deep into sectionals, it'll be interesting to see if they beefed the schedule up any this year to prepare for that.

#3 Houghton-Going with a young Houghton team to really improve this year, Perennial Allegany powers Whitesville & Genesee-Valley may be down a bit this year and Andover after a few successful years may be down as well so a young Houghton team may surprise a few people.

DSport
10-22-2007, 12:26 PM
I think Prattsburgh is the favorite. If coach Burke decides to press, teams will have a hard time getting up the court. Look for many lay-ups from Fuller and company.
Last year Prattsburgh was tall, this year they are fast. They also have some good shooters.

Northstar is the second best team with Beckford being a great athlete. They have a good shot at a title also.

Williamson Coach
10-22-2007, 09:16 PM
We will be playing Northstar this season. Coach was looking for some bigger schools to play to prepair for thier sectional run and we decided on a game. The game will be at Northstar in January.

UNCTarheels
10-23-2007, 10:23 AM
That's good, I expected Coach Garwood to schedule some larger schools, You Stop Beckford and you stop Northstar, I see you have a couple of 6'3" seniors due to return this season, if they can neutralize Beckford then you should win this game.

section5v33
10-24-2007, 09:54 AM
Here is part of Northstar's schedule. They beefed it up a little, although they still have games with some weaker schools:

11-29 open the season in the Barker Tourney (they open with Oakfield-Alabama. Lyndonville and Barker are the other teams)

12-18 Byron-Bergen stuggles last year with a young team, but a class B school

12-26 Keshequa Tourney - open with Genesee Valley

1-4 Finney -lost a lot, but Marchand will always have a competitive team

1-18 Finney

1-25 Houghton tourney -open with Houghton. Schenectady Christian is also in this tourney (they went to the class C final 4 last year)

1-29 Williamson

2-8 Kendall

Williamson Coach
10-24-2007, 08:29 PM
UNC, we are looking forward to the challange. They seem like they will have a nice team again this season.

Is the beckford kid their big kid? I thought he was a guard?

I looked at some stats from last season and he seems to be the man..

DrewVT6
10-25-2007, 07:33 AM
UNC, we are looking forward to the challange. They seem like they will have a nice team again this season.

Is the beckford kid their big kid? I thought he was a guard?

I looked at some stats from last season and he seems to be the man..

Beckford should be playing a 2/3. If he were at a AA/AAA school he would be. But at 6-3 at a D school he's their center as well. He's incredibly quick....when driving with his right hand. Hopefully he's improved on his left handed dribble penetration to become a more complete player. He'll be a good D3 college player.

section5v33
10-25-2007, 07:39 AM
Beckford plays the 2-5 positions for Northstar. He is very, very athletic.

UNCTarheels
10-25-2007, 07:46 AM
He was listed @ 6'4" 205 lbs last season I'm assuming he may be bigger now. I saw him twice last season and he's very impressive. It's been nice watching him get better over the years as I watched him his freshmen year come off the bench in a blowout loss in Sectionals to Prattsburgh. You could tell then that he had Raw talent and seeing him as a Sophomore twice & twice last season he has a big upside. He's a double-double guy every night, very muscular physique and he's not lazy he'll go after lose balls and rebounds very well. Does try to do too much offensively once in awhile but maybe he's working on that.

I have to say with the exception of scheduling Williamson Coach Garwood has taken the "Marchand" approach to scheduling. Scheduling weaker larger schools like Kendall & Byron-Bergen just to get sectional points and try to secure the #1 seed, I only hope it back fires on him and he picks up L's in those games. I'm obviously not a fan of these type of moves by coaches, Marchand did it the last two seasons although to his credit he did schedule a couple of good schools like Charlotte, Freddie-Thomas & Aquinas but still made some shady decisions in the process like a late season game with Byron-Bergen just to get sectional points.

DrewVT6
10-25-2007, 08:02 AM
I don't think you are taking into consideration what ADs/Coaches at good class D schools WITHOUT a dependable league schedule have to go through. People just plain won't play them, unless they've given them games in the past few years. Teams that really need to get sectional points won't give them the time of day, especially the decent C/CC/CCC schools.

section5v33
10-25-2007, 08:52 AM
UNC- Finney played one of the toughest schedules I have ever seen a class DD school play. They picked up Byron Bergen at the end of last year because they were down a game (due to a cancellation) and nobody else would play them...especially class C and B schools because they were worried about losing to a class DD school and losing sectional points.

I can also imagine that a lot of bigger school were not interested in playing Northstar this year for the same reason. They did not want to lose sectional points (not that Northstar is as good as last years Finney team, but they will be decent).

I bet the same class C schools that did not want to play Northstar this year will be calling the school's AD next year to play the Beckford-less Knights in the 2008-09 season. That's just the way it works.

syracusebball
10-25-2007, 05:34 PM
Prattsburgh is easily the best team in class D!
They might have lost 4 starters but they have reloaded with lots of new talent.
Wade Fuller returned who is the best player in Class D or DD
Dougie Lewis and Marshell Stanley will be there big men and are both very talented.
They also have two young players who were on JV last who will be able to score points. They are Garrett Parker who can shoot and Ryan Caron who can shoot and penatrate.
Ryan Caron is better than most people think and can score.

Williamson Coach
10-26-2007, 07:34 AM
UNC- thanks for thinking of us as one of the better teams he scheduled. Although I will have a few good returning players. Our poor record in the past few seasons has resulted in several calls from smaller schools looking for that easy bigger school win. We accepted the game knowing it is going to be a challange stopping Beckford and the Northstar team. I am looking forward to a great game.

UNCTarheels
10-26-2007, 08:05 AM
I wish you the best Coach Mitchell, I'm looking forward to Basketball season. Before you know it we'll be hanging out at the BCA watching games, hopefully one of these years I'll be watching you coach from our seats.

Williamson Coach
10-26-2007, 12:01 PM
UNC- Unless every soccer ball in Williamson Deflates you wont see me playing in the big house:). Great kids, good athletes but not a lot of passion or interest in the game. We are pushing our rec program a little harder and getting some good people involved, but 12 months of the year are soccer and it shows. this group of kids won thier soccer game yesterday and if they can beat wellsville on Monday I cant see them loosing any sectional games in soccer. We start baskteball every year with 0 off season participation. A few kids here and there at open gym nights in the spring but thats it. No summer league, not tournaments. You know how hard it is to win when you do all those things, Now imagine starting from scratch every year. We have had a few kids in the past put in the time and be successful as individuals but not as a whole. Jess Dennie, Cody Stevens who is starting his second year at Canton are a few examples. If they come we can get them to be good players. Our modified kids are basketball first kids so hopefully in a few years if we put in the time we can have some good teams.

Check out the new web page with stats, polls, pics and blogs
http://www.williamsoncentral.org/webpages/wmitchell/

UNCTarheels
10-26-2007, 12:21 PM
I know exactly what your talking about, we run into the same problem where I coach. It's been Baseball, Baseball, Baseball for the past 15 years and winning a state title certainly didn't help things. But you have to start somewhere and the modified is the right place to do it.

thanks for sending the webpage that's really nice.

Rams15
10-26-2007, 12:35 PM
Nothing wrong with playing America's past time. Or at least it used to be until Fox put the World Series on until the wee hours of the morning so young kids can't watch it anymore. ( that's another story, however )

The funny thing is that young athletes invest the most amount of time generally in the sport that they enjoy the most or demonstrate the most proficiency. Volunteer coaches spend huge amounts of time trying to provide opportunities for their sons and daughters to play a sport that they are willing to coach. Don't let anyone kid you. Every, single, kid out there wants to be part of a winning program. They tend to gravitate toward the sports that:
1. Either their friends are playing
2. Their parents direct them to a sport " they played in school. "
3. They find the most success in

Basketball requires a lot of time spent on skill development. ( as do other sports ) Many of Bath's " better " athletes play high school baseball in the spring & American Legion baseball in the summer. This is the time, also that AAU basketball programs are run. It is unfair, in my opinion, to ask a kid to participate in both. The three sport athlete is a dying breed any more. So many athletes are concentrating on one or maybe two sports and focusing on travel teams or weightlifting. Everyone has a favorite sport and there is no " one size fits all " solution to developing top flight teams in all sports. ( IMO ) If you develop a winning program, the athletes will follow.

UNCTarheels
10-26-2007, 12:44 PM
As you (Rams15) know I love our Baseball team and try to contribute in anyway I can, but at the same time in the back of my mind I wish at least one, two or three of our kids were playing AAU Basketball. And with Baseball and the Legion teams you mentioned that takes up the whole summer & there's little to no time to attend Basketball camps, Clinics & play in Open Gyms & summer leagues. That's the only thing I don't like about kids focusing on Baseball. Once a team finishes Basketball up in February then start Baseball, play that until August and start playing Soccer.

You hit right on the head with the One sport thing, it's becoming more evident recently that this is the approach kids & their parents are taking. As theres more pressure these days for kids to play "their" sport in college.

I love Baseball & Basketball I just wish the kids could play both on a consistent basis.

Rams15
10-26-2007, 01:03 PM
It would be very nice to have a small core of players who focus on the game of basketball to build a foundation for growth. I was always more successful in baseball in high school, but still love the game of basketball more, to this day. I remember our high school coach used to take our team every, single, Sunday to Camp Monterery. We used to play the innmates there and get physically mauled every, single, Sunday. I can tell you, though, it paid hige dividends come sectional time when we matched up against the more physical, inter-city schools/teams. ( at that time Edison Tech, East High ) We certainly were never intimidated ! It is also important to note that there are some communities who do not have someone willing to step up and give the time to coach. And, for some... you wouldn't want your child playing for them that do. The areas that have quality coaching during the spring are very fortunate, indeed.

In Bath, 3 of the " projected " first 6, play baseball 3/4 of the year. Two are primarily football players and the other did absolutely nothing at all to prepare for basketball season. He doesn't even play a fall sport. Most are athletes, but not basketball players. It is tough to compete in the LCAA when this occurs. Last year, with mostly senior starters, a .500 season was welcomed. That is considered a really down year in basketball rich communities. Sad, but true.

Williamson Coach
10-26-2007, 10:53 PM
I am a 3 sport coach and I can say that kids will migrate to sports that apeal to the masses. Soccer is a sport that kids can play from a young age with moderate success. Any little kid can kick a ball into a net from 5 feet away. It is fun and more exciting then throwing a ball at a hoop that is ten feet high. Plus many players start out as a kid who was hidden somewhere on a soccer field or in right field in baseball and then worked at it to get better. Many kids shy away from basketball beacuse of lack of success when they are young and the fact that it is one of the only team sports where you cant hide a kid untill his skills get better. The days of 3 sport athletes in Williamson are not long gone. We are a small class b school and getting smaller. Our 1st grade class only has 66 kids in it. If we dont have 3 sport athletes we dont have many sports period. I agree with UNC it would be nice to have some of the kids commit to basketball and summer work. It always seems for me anyway that b ball gets the short end of the stick. Success breeds success and I hope a new trend can get started.

syracusebball
10-28-2007, 08:55 PM
I think Prattsburgh is the best team in Section V class D or maybe the state.
But i am not even sure if they are going to win sectionals.
Prattsburgh is always considered a favorite to win sectionals.
Last year they were even ranked #1 in the State for almost the whole year even over that dominate Finney team.
But it seams like every year Prattsburgh doesnt come threw in the end.
Last year losing to filmore did not cross they minds of almost anyboddy.
Most thought it would be another 30 point blowout that prattsburgh did all year long. But we all know that is not what happened.
So i think it will be NorthStar who wins Sectionals.

BBalla32
11-04-2007, 05:16 PM
All this talk about these two teams... Geneva Desales lost in the semis last year, and return a couple of strong players... people quickly forget about schools from Allegany County... Whitesville is always tough, Scio is good if they can keep players eligible, and the young guns from Houghton are bound for a good year after adding some tougher games and the fact that they've played together since grade school... thoughts on the AC teams?

UNCTarheels
11-05-2007, 07:38 AM
I don't think we've forgotten about those schools, the point is going into the season that's who the favorites are. It's like that in most sports at most levels. I'm well aware of the "Young Guns" @ Houghton I actually talked about them on Syracuse.com over the summer. The Key for Houghton will be the Play of 6'3" Junior Matt Conklin if he provides points & rebounds down low he'll keep them in games. If Jimmy Estruch (6'0" Sophomore) Jake Merrill (5'6" Sophomore) & Greg Wright (6'0" Junior) Continue to develope & Houghton gets Leadership from Seniors Trent Shatto & Michael Williams they could be competitive.Whitesville will likely be competitive with Coley Lewis-Ellison & Brett Steven leading the show. and Brandon Costello & Co. @ DeSales Will be tough.The challenge ahead for DeSales will be who replaces the points they got from the likes of Kurtis Porter, Karski & Smaldone. Of the players due back besides Costello Mike Tickner 5'10 Senior, Mike Fera 5'7" Senior, Benen Karski 5'11" Jr. & Brian Manion 6'2" Sr. There's not much scoring there so if they can't get points there then they have to hope theres some points coming up from J.V if not Costello is going to have to carry the whole load. As it is Costello will probably average 25 + a game. I think both Class D and DD will be very exciting this season.

starball2
11-19-2007, 12:49 AM
Yea What a bad move by that marchand i mean if he didnt get those sectional points he would of never made it out of class d Section v wow teams gave them tough competitions i mean its not like they walked through states both years the olny tough team that gave them competition being MLK

UNCTarheels
11-19-2007, 07:20 AM
I wouldn't exactly call the D/DD qualifier with Whitesville last season an easy game, would you?

Uconnfan50
11-19-2007, 12:57 PM
Last years crossover game was the toughest game finney saw through states and sectionals. No doubt about it.

I've got Northstar finally pulling it out this year.

DrewVT6
11-23-2007, 07:58 PM
We're going to do a poll for each Sectional Classification starting with D.

Any more nominees for teams to win this class?

Houghton
Prattsburgh
Northstar
DeSales
Scio
Whitesville

Anyone else?

syracusebball
11-26-2007, 05:02 PM
This weekend Prattsburgh plays BND.
Do you think it will be a close game or not so close like last year?

DSport
11-26-2007, 06:04 PM
Pb 76
ND 52

ref301
11-27-2007, 05:42 AM
This weekend Prattsburgh plays BND.
Do you think it will be a close game or not so close like last year?

Both teams lost significant contributers to graduation. I really think that Prattsburgh has the biggest question mark in that Wade Fuller is now the "man". Can he carry a younger, smaller team on his back? BND lost Giess, Francis and Reddick. They were dominated on the boards last year by Prattsburgh. I expect a much closer game then last year. Rapone will have BND ready and their focus will be on stopping Fuller. I'm OOT this weekend and will not get to see the game. Too bad. Should be a classic.

jetcole47
11-27-2007, 07:00 AM
to early for me to make that pick, i will have to see the others play. i will see must of them by the end of the year.

syracusebball
11-27-2007, 08:17 PM
Pb 76
ND 52

That is a bold predition.
I dont think prattsburgh is going to blow out BND.
BND has a legit chance to beat them and could be prattsburgh's hardest test in the regular season besides maybe cambell.
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SecVBallin
11-27-2007, 08:21 PM
Yeah Im sorry but whoever posted that score is probably going to be surprised at how close the game will be. Kevin Francis against Wade fuller is going to be fun to watch. Wade has speed and the drive, kevin has speed and can shoot the lights out. Plenty of other players on both teams will have their chance to show what they are made of

syracusebball
11-27-2007, 08:23 PM
Both teams lost significant contributers to graduation. I really think that Prattsburgh has the biggest question mark in that Wade Fuller is now the "man". Can he carry a younger, smaller team on his back? BND lost Giess, Francis and Reddick. They were dominated on the boards last year by Prattsburgh. I expect a much closer game then last year. Rapone will have BND ready and their focus will be on stopping Fuller. I'm OOT this weekend and will not get to see the game. Too bad. Should be a classic.


I think wade will be very capable of scoring 20 on any night. I saw him play verse Way-Co in a scrimage and he scored alot. He also had about a hundred steels.
He looks to be quicker and faster than he has ever been.
Everybody thinks that prattsburgh is a small team. The is half right. Yeah they are smaller than last year and they have a lot of small fast gaurds but they have Doug Lewis 6'4" and Marshall Stanely 6'4". there is not to many D or DD schools that have two good big guys that are both 6'4" or taller.

SecVBallin
11-27-2007, 08:34 PM
These kids didn't have starting time last season at all on varsity, or were they on jv? Experience is key. Kevin and christian have experience to lead Notre Dame. Can Wade lead Prattsburgh as the only returning starter? should be a great game. It will definitely not be a 76 52 blowout whoever thought it would be that.

DSport
11-27-2007, 09:59 PM
I stick by my bold prediction. I'm not saying that N-D doesn't have the talent to win this game. I feel that the spread will be similar to last year.
We will see of course and I may be wrong. (just a prediction)

SecVBallin
11-28-2007, 09:07 AM
But honestly you think prattsburgh has the talent to win by 24? Not a chance. They are much different and a little weaker than last years team. Still a good team. But not nearly the same talent. A 24 point blow out would be unbelievable for them but probably won't happen. If you are looking at talent, ND wins that category.

UNCTarheels
11-28-2007, 09:12 AM
I disagree with you on that, I don't think it's likely Prattsburgh wins this game by more than 20 but for you to say that Prattsburgh can't match the talent level of Notre-Dame is ridiculous. This is going to be one of the deepest Prattsburgh teams you've seen in awhile, they've got talent. The problem is with all of the young players no one knows who they are yet, let them fly under the radar for now, because come February everyone in Class D & DD will know who they are and you'll all be singing a different tune...........

SecVBallin
11-28-2007, 09:26 AM
Neither of these teams have played yet so in reality we really don't know how good either of them are. I shouldn't be comparing either team to last years teams actually. My mistake by doing that. Both teams are completely changed.

DSport
11-28-2007, 11:55 AM
Both teams have changed. I don't have a lot to go by to give a prediction but that's why it is a orediction. I could wait until after the game and then tell you what the score would be but that would be no fun.
I think both teams have comparable skill to last year and that is why I have made the 24 point prediction. Nobody thought the games last year would be blowouts either.
I am not in any way knocking ND. They certainly could win this game. If they do your welcome to call me on my lame prediction. If it is right though, look out! lol

syracusebball
11-28-2007, 05:10 PM
Does any body think that prattsbugh or Northstar has a good chance to win a state tittle this year.

UNCTarheels
11-29-2007, 07:17 AM
It's way too early to even think about state titles, it's a long season and alot can happen. You have no idea how strong other sections are. Worry about Sectional titles and then you can talk about Glens Falls.

SUman1515
11-29-2007, 08:34 PM
Does any body think that prattsbugh or Northstar has a good chance to win a state tittle this year.

I think prattsburg definatly has the potential to be a good team but with a team as young as they have i dont think a state championship is really within reach this year. it takes a great team and a lot of experiance which is something they just dont have yet

boobiemiles
11-29-2007, 09:26 PM
northstar just lost to oakfield tonight at the barker tournament. and they only were able to put up about 38 points

SecVBallin
11-29-2007, 09:28 PM
Possibly a bad game, but oakfield is a really good team even without davis. Northstar is still a good team, but i think this just shows that prattsburgh is the best team in D.

hoopsfan35
11-29-2007, 10:03 PM
Possibly a bad game, but oakfield is a really good team even without davis. Northstar is still a good team, but i think this just shows that prattsburgh is the best team in D.

What about Houghton? I don't know how they did tonight against York in the Alexander Tourney but they beat Warsaw on tuesday . They should get a little recognition. They play a tough schedule with the Houghton Invitational and they scheduled Finney.

UNCTarheels
11-30-2007, 07:32 AM
Verry talented even though they lost last night to a tough York team. They've got some young talent and will improve every game.

DSport
12-01-2007, 10:27 PM
Congrats to ND. I am officiallly out of the prediction business. What was it that propelled. I wasn't there so any game info would be appreciated. Did Prattsburgh shoot bad or play bad defence or was ND just lighting it up? I see Bochiccio had a good night.
Hopefully the loss is good for a young Prattsburgh team. We will see if they grow from it.

SecVBallin
12-01-2007, 11:35 PM
ND Played like a team and were rock solid on defense. Prattsburgh also did not look as good of a team as predicted, but could be just first game problems. This game wasn't a fluke. ND is a good team

DSport
12-02-2007, 07:18 AM
I wasn't in any way saying that it might be a fluke. Notre Dame is a good team. my prediction was simply a prediction, and I was wrong. I would love to see these two face off in the crossover between D and DD but that is a long way from now.

boobiemiles
12-02-2007, 10:22 PM
northstar lost to barker.

enough said for them

Uconnfan50
12-03-2007, 09:53 PM
Let's just remember that this is still the beginning of the season. A lot happens from the first few games to the last few!

DrewVT6
12-04-2007, 10:48 AM
Don't be surprised if Northstar drops 1 or 2 to Lima and/or Webster Christian.

BBalla32
12-04-2007, 06:42 PM
Schenectedy isn't in that Houghton tournament, they didn't wanna come back because they won both games by 20 and 40 last year... Webster Christian and Faith Heritage are the other two teams

OhioStateBuck
12-05-2007, 08:40 PM
Congrats to ND. I am officiallly out of the prediction business. What was it that propelled. I wasn't there so any game info would be appreciated. Did Prattsburgh shoot bad or play bad defence or was ND just lighting it up? I see Bochiccio had a good night.
Hopefully the loss is good for a young Prattsburgh team. We will see if they grow from it.

I watched the Prattsburgh Notre Dame game, and just got back from their game against Canisteo and Prattsburgh looked a lot better tonight. Prattsburgh played just about eveyone on the bench, and Fuller dominated most of the game. Dougie Lewis also stepped up and got a double double, which we will probably see a lot more of this year. I'm not sure about the points, but Phil Maciuska, Ryan Caron and Pat Whiteman all contributed to help beat a scrappy CG team.

DSport
12-05-2007, 11:16 PM
I was also at the game. Parker had a bad night but some others really stepped up. Here's the four that I think meant the most tonight.
1. Coach Burke- Box and one on Wallace really held him in check and he was getting very frustrated that he not only had very few attempts but many times couldn't even get the ball.
2. Wade Fuller- The key to that box and one. he played tough defence on Wallace all night. He also had about the first 8 or ten points for the Vikings. He came up big at the end of the game with a couple of steals to seal the deal.
3. Doug Lewis- He was a rebounding machine tonight. He was in the right place and doing the dirty work. he also had some key points in the game when others were struggling to get open. He would cut to the hoop and get a quick lay-up.
4. Phil Macuska (sp)- He came in off the bench and gave a good spark to the offence with some put backs and a couple jumpers. He also took over on the box and one when Wade was in foul trouble.

Good game for Prattsburgh anbd a frustrating night for Wallace who was pushing defenders off him and forcing shots when he did get the ball.

bbfan
12-06-2007, 06:21 AM
Prattsburgh has little experinace other than Fuller, but with the right people off the bench may have a chance. They are soft down low but has a 6'3" soph playing wing that should be down low banging the boards. This team does not have the post players to have him shoot 3's and miss. He needs to be in the post banging. They have another quick guard who played soccer and hustled like heck. I saw the game last night and that number 3 changed the momentum of the game. Where has he been? Two speedsters at guards?
They could make a good dual. Lets hope coach is open to speed and changing a bit to have a great team.

DSport
12-06-2007, 08:07 AM
I agree that he had an off night but I was impressed with the rebounding of Lewis and Stanley. They may not be the trio of Applebaum, Wright, and Socola but they are capable of getting some boards. (29 between them last night)

OhioStateBuck
12-06-2007, 08:54 AM
Prattsburgh has little experinace other than Fuller, but with the right people off the bench may have a chance. They are soft down low but has a 6'3" soph playing wing that should be down low banging the boards. This team does not have the post players to have him shoot 3's and miss. He needs to be in the post banging. They have another quick guard who played soccer and hustled like heck. I saw the game last night and that number 3 changed the momentum of the game. Where has he been? Two speedsters at guards?
They could make a good dual. Lets hope coach is open to speed and changing a bit to have a great team.


Number 3 on Prattsburgh is Phil Maciuska. As you said he played soccer this year, and wasn't expected to start, but as the season went on his hustle gained him a starting spot and he became a very important part of the team. Last night he had 8 points, and looked pretty impressive, hopefully he'll continue to do so as the season goes on.

UNCTarheels
12-06-2007, 10:12 AM
If you were at the ND game, you'd have sworn the kids off the bench never played basketball before. The same ones we're praising for last nights performance. I don't think Coach Burke needs any assistance from us on who to play and where to play them. After all, he sees them everyday in practice. The Parker kid is the best shooter on the team, let it play out for a few games. I've seen both games and Parker has played the four part of both games. You had a kid with 14 rebounds last night, you want to sit him, put Parker at the 4 and start someone else off the bench. This Prattsburgh team is very versatile, different combinations for different situations and different opponents. Sure worked well last night against a very good team.

bbfan
12-06-2007, 02:32 PM
If you were at the ND game, you'd have sworn the kids off the bench never played basketball before. The same ones we're praising for last nights performance. I don't think Coach Burke needs any assistance from us on who to play and where to play them. After all, he sees them everyday in practice. The Parker kid is the best shooter on the team, let it play out for a few games. I've seen both games and Parker has played the four part of both games. You had a kid with 14 rebounds last night, you want to sit him, put Parker at the 4 and start someone else off the bench. This Prattsburgh team is very versatile, different combinations for different situations and different opponents. Sure worked well last night against a very good team.

I do not recall asking him to sit. With a body that big and wide there should be some real good post moves-right or left or take it to the hole or take it back out side. Some earlier post's also state he is a one deminsional square up shooter and they were not mine. It would not hurt him to add other demensions to his game and would make him much more valuable to the team and in the future. And as far as practice, there are players who practice well but game play leaves a little to be desired and others that are just on the other end of the spectrum and are hungry and may be slower in practice because they are learning. Lets also remember that good shooters are based on percentages so if your shooting 15-20 times a game and shoot in the 34 to 35 % range I am all for it. Any thing less and you are not a pure shooter And should be stopped for a higher percentage shot down low. 35 to 40 % you are an exceptional shooter and the green is on from never never land. Any one can shoot but show me the percentages. I remember last year hearing in the stands about the great shooter they PB had last year, Did I miss it because in my opinion he never showed up maybe a game or two. And run the percentages and that will tell you every thing. And how do we know that he is the best shooter on the team? He may have the purest form but did we do the math????? Shooting is an art, sinking them is a skill. At the end of the year and do the math and I hope it proves you right. And the number of rebounds he had 14 and according to the other post the other 2 had 29 combined for a total of 43 rebounds for the game. Not bad for the big three.

DSport
12-06-2007, 02:48 PM
He didn't have 14 boards. I think the meaning behind the post was that you wanted Burke to sit the guy that had 14 boards so he could play Parker down low.

As far as Parkers shooting: he normally is on. He just had an off night. He isn't however the only player on the team capable of shooting. Caron, Wightman, Maciuska and some others are also good shooters.

syracusebball
12-06-2007, 08:41 PM
Yeah he just had a really bad night. normally this kid is a great shooter and you can not say that he should go down low just because he shot bad in one game.
If you have seen any of his games from last year you would see how good of a shooter this kid really is.

bbfan
12-07-2007, 05:29 AM
Yeah he just had a really bad night. normally this kid is a great shooter and you can not say that he should go down low just because he shot bad in one game.
If you have seen any of his games from last year you would see how good of a shooter this kid really is.

Last year was JV this is Varsity-pressure much different. I believe he was 4 for 15 at the ND game or some thing like that - do the math. I believe what constitutes a good shooter between my numbers and yours are different. Again 34-35 % from out there is average. 35 to 40 % is good 40 to 50 percent is great- If I had a player shooting 50 % and was not shooting much I would kick him off the team. Players may excell at one level and not the other. I am not sure what he shot the other night as I watched, but I bet he is at 20 % or so. I am sure he can pick it up but Basketball is based on what you do now not last year. The kid has got great form. And in time he will settle down. But there are to many good teams this year and Prattsbugh does not have the height like last year to let the season go to one potentially good sophmore and try to live off on just one person from the three point line. Remember this kid is young still growing and could be 6'5 or 6'6 in a year or so. And where is he going to play??? Out around the three point line?? I don't think so not at this level. This kid is going to be a super star in the future but now is not his time.

ref301
12-07-2007, 06:11 AM
Last year was JV this is Varsity-pressure much different. I believe he was 4 for 15 at the ND game or some thing like that - do the math. I believe what constitutes a good shooter between my numbers and yours are different. Again 34-35 % from out there is average. 35 to 40 % is good 40 to 50 percent is great- If I had a player shooting 50 % and was not shooting much I would kick him off the team. Players may excell at one level and not the other. I am not sure what he shot the other night as I watched, but I bet he is at 20 % or so. I am sure he can pick it up but Basketball is based on what you do now not last year. The kid has got great form. And in time he will settle down. But there are to many good teams this year and Prattsbugh does not have the height like last year to let the season go to one potentially good sophmore and try to live off on just one person from the three point line. Remember this kid is young still growing and could be 6'5 or 6'6 in a year or so. And where is he going to play??? Out around the three point line?? I don't think so not at this level. This kid is going to be a super star in the future but now is not his time.

All great points, but in another thread it was mentioned the Coach Burke is approaching 500 victories for his coaching career. I think the folks at Prattsburgh will trust him to make the right personnel decisions for the team now, at Sectional time and in the years to come.

DSport
12-07-2007, 06:58 AM
They aren't living off one guy from the three point line. I mentioned before that this is one of the deepest Prattsburgh teams ever and they have several guys who can hit the three. They may not start but collectively they will see good minutes.

DrewVT6
12-07-2007, 09:13 PM
I don't see Northstar winning sectionals this year. They just don't have the supporting cast around Beckford to win it all. They rely on Beckford too heavily on the defensive end and they rely on him for all their rebounding. It'll really take a big shift in the way they play for them to win 3-4 games in a row against good teams. Perhaps by February that shift will happen? Maybe the preseason predictions have just gotten to them? Who knows. Class D is wide open and I don't see anyone capable of taking out Batavia Notre-Dame(or a team capable of beating BND) in a cross over game.

dg123
12-07-2007, 09:31 PM
D is certainly wide open. webster christian beat finney tonight in overtime. i know some of you are thinking finney just isnt good, but webster christian played really well. they might make some noise. they have this one kid that leaps over everyone.

UNCTarheels
12-10-2007, 08:33 AM
Prattsburgh @ Webster-Christian. If Webster-Christian is still playing well we'll see how good they really are when the Vikings Visit on January 8th Honestly if they keep it under 20 I'll be impressed.

dg123
12-10-2007, 06:58 PM
i imagine whitesville willl be decent as well also ne news on them?

boobiemiles
12-10-2007, 07:00 PM
i imagine whitesville willl be decent as well also ne news on them?
whitesville is one of my favorite teams. over the past couple years they have been greatly undersized, and they still are able to have some of the most consistant play in class d, as they are able to win without a big man, and without relying on the 3 to fall

OhioStateBuck
12-11-2007, 09:16 PM
Last year was JV this is Varsity-pressure much different. I believe he was 4 for 15 at the ND game or some thing like that - do the math. I believe what constitutes a good shooter between my numbers and yours are different. Again 34-35 % from out there is average. 35 to 40 % is good 40 to 50 percent is great- If I had a player shooting 50 % and was not shooting much I would kick him off the team. Players may excell at one level and not the other. I am not sure what he shot the other night as I watched, but I bet he is at 20 % or so. I am sure he can pick it up but Basketball is based on what you do now not last year. The kid has got great form. And in time he will settle down. But there are to many good teams this year and Prattsbugh does not have the height like last year to let the season go to one potentially good sophmore and try to live off on just one person from the three point line. Remember this kid is young still growing and could be 6'5 or 6'6 in a year or so. And where is he going to play??? Out around the three point line?? I don't think so not at this level. This kid is going to be a super star in the future but now is not his time.



Garret really showed up tonight against JT, although I'm not sure how many he dropped, it was probably around 20. He also had a huge four point play towards the end of the game to help seal the deal.

DSport
12-12-2007, 07:20 AM
I doubt it was quite 20 but he did play very well. He made a huge impact at the beginning and end of the game.
Good win for Prattsburgh.

UNCTarheels
12-12-2007, 07:33 AM
Parker hit 6 3's and was 1-for-1 from the Free Throw line for 19 points

DSport
12-12-2007, 08:44 AM
Well, I guess it was almost 20! I only thought there was 5 threes but oh well. Great game. Let's hope he can do that the rest of the season.

UNCTarheels
12-12-2007, 10:14 AM
He's only going to get better the more games he plays, same goes with the rest of the Vikings, that's whats nice about beating teams like Canisteo-Greenwood & J-T this early in the season, espcially last night going to J-T and beating an undefeated team. Think about it if Prattsburgh is winning a close game at J-T's place with this young team in December how good is Prattsbugh going to be two months from now with 20 games under their belt? Parker is a Sophomore so he's only going to improve, he's got a real smooth shot and his hitting pretty good right now

syracusebball
12-13-2007, 08:53 PM
yeah he was like 6 for 10 and that was on a very good jt team.
if that is not a good shooter than i dont know what is.
Even if this kid becomes 6'5" he will still shoot threes and will play in side.
This kid has great potential. I think he is only 15 years old.

DSport
12-13-2007, 10:40 PM
He has a lot of potential. He needs to get a little stronger so he can be a force inside and out but as you said, he is young. He has two more years after this to grow.

ref11
12-14-2007, 03:11 AM
what about andover they are 6 wins 1 loss so far

UNCTarheels
12-14-2007, 08:09 AM
Andover is 6-1 and their loss is to Canaseraga (3-2) they've beat Belfast (2-3)2x, Lima Christian(3-3) Fillmore(2-1)Avoca (1-4)& Alfred-Almond (0-7) So they haven't really played Stiff Competition yet, once they start playing some better teams it'll give us an idea of how good they really are. They've Played 3 Steuben County schools that are all middle of the pack type teams, losing to one of them. So if they come across a Prattsburgh in Sectionals they may be in trouble.

hoopsfan35
12-14-2007, 09:35 AM
Andover is 6-1 and their loss is to Canaseraga (3-2) they've beat Belfast (2-3)2x, Lima Christian(3-3) Fillmore(2-1)Avoca (1-4)& Alfred-Almond (0-7) So they haven't really played Stiff Competition yet, once they start playing some better teams it'll give us an idea of how good they really are. They've Played 3 Steuben County schools that are all middle of the pack type teams, losing to one of them. So if they come across a Prattsburgh in Sectionals they may be in trouble.

It was a good win against a Fillmore team that just beat Whitesville pretty handily. They might get in trouble against teams like Genesee Valley and Houghton in their own league and once they hit the semis of sectionals if they make it that far, they might lose big to like UNC said Prattsburgh or Houghton maybe

DSport
12-14-2007, 02:13 PM
It was a good win against a Fillmore team that just beat Whitesville pretty handily. They might get in trouble against teams like Genesee Valley and Houghton in their own league and once they hit the semis of sectionals if they make it that far, they might lose big to like UNC said Prattsburgh or Houghton maybe

I see Andover as a middle of the pack team, just like many of the teams they have played so far.
I agree that the win against Fillmore has some quality to it but a loss to Canaserega kind of negates it.
They are good but would have some trouble against the top tier D schools.

OhioStateBuck
12-14-2007, 08:43 PM
Garret Parker had another good game tonight against Addison, I think he had 17 points and went about 5-7 from behind the arc (Not completly sure). Doug Lewis and Marshell Stanley both had quite a few boards and probably both had double-doubles. Senior Logan Wheeler looked better tonight as well. Mike Strong from Addison hit some three's towards the end of the game, but Prattsburgh still won by a pretty decent margin and had 77 points.

DrewVT6
12-14-2007, 08:59 PM
I see Andover as a middle of the pack team, just like many of the teams they have played so far.
I agree that the win against Fillmore has some quality to it but a loss to Canaserega kind of negates it.
They are good but would have some trouble against the top tier D schools.

The "top tier" of D schools isn't very much removed from anyone else in D this year. At 6-1, Andover is already well on their way to being a top seed.

The problem Houghton usually has is a verrrrrry long break from games and Christmas time that can mess up any early season rhythm that they get.

DSport
12-14-2007, 11:07 PM
The "top tier" of D schools isn't very much removed from anyone else in D this year. At 6-1, Andover is already well on their way to being a top seed.

The problem Houghton usually has is a verrrrrry long break from games and Christmas time that can mess up any early season rhythm that they get.

Well, I think Prattsburgh is at the top and are a ways ahead of andover. I'm not sure who else is at the top with them but I don't see Andover as a threat. they lost again tonight. Northstar had a big win tonight but their comp. wasn't exactly top notch.

UNCTarheels
12-17-2007, 09:05 AM
I think Andover showed their "True" selves losing to a rebuilding Whitesville team. Prattsburgh has staked it's claim on the #1 seed and I doubt very seriously they'll lose that spot. They Do have some tough games left on the schedule playing Class C Naples in the first round of their X-mas tournament and a potential match up with Class C Alexander in the 2nd round. They also host Notre-Dame & Campbell-Savona & Have the County Tournament so they'll be tested and are likely to still be standing tall at #1 when sectionals begin. Andover will probably be a top 3 or 4 seed do to a weak schedule they'll play Houghton twice & Whitesville again so that'll give them at least 5 losses and they may play Mt. Morris in the Arkport tourney or lose to Cansaseraga again in that tourney. I think Prattsburgh is the team to beat in Class D

MD13
12-26-2007, 11:57 PM
Any new opinions/predictions for this class now that the season is a month old?

UNCTarheels
12-27-2007, 07:28 AM
Prattsburgh has to be the favorite, with Houghton, Northstar & Andover as the contenders.

BBalla32
12-29-2007, 11:57 PM
On Friday January 11, Houghton (3-0 in AC DII) travels to Andover (2-1 in AC DII) to face off in a tough league game... though Houghton is coming off a very long break, I think this might start to end some of the arguements ya'll have been having about and show who might still be playing come late February

DrewVT6
12-30-2007, 04:51 PM
I'm pretty certain Andover will win this game. If they played again in a few weeks it could be a different story, but Houghton is rarely playing good basketball at this time of the year.

By the way Northstar has strung together a bunch of decent wins over the past month and a half. I'm pretty sure if PG Donnie Harris starts playing well, they can be pretty dangerous. Early on I don't think he fully understood what he needed to do for Northstar to win. Write now it seems everyone on the team is doing their part to support Beckford's talent.

Prattsburgh is obviously continuing to hit on all cylinders. They do have an interesting game coming up in the next few weeks against Batavia Notre-Dame. BND coach Mike Rapone will likely be sitting on win 499 when they venture down to Prattsburgh for the rematch of their earlier game.

DuKe
01-02-2008, 05:00 PM
Does any body think that prattsbugh or Northstar has a good chance to win a state tittle this year.

i think that prattsburgh has a shot at a state title this year but they will have to step it up. if parker can keep shooting well and fuller does his thing, i think that they have a descent shot. their big men need to toughen up a bit if they plan on going all the way or not though. a couple people on the bench can shoot well too i think. like caron? not sure if thats his name or not but i see potential in him. wightman was supposed to be a great shooter but he hasn't showed anyone that yet. not to say he cant though. i've noticed fuller shooting 3's more often and that will probably be another threat to other teams along with his speed and all around ability to play the game.

VbballV10
01-02-2008, 05:37 PM
i saw prattsburg play and lose to ND by twenty....they are not that good and i do not know why everybody is making a big deal about them.The big deal is ND and go to the ND prattsburg game next saturday to find out why

DuKe
01-02-2008, 05:48 PM
i saw prattsburg play and lose to ND by twenty....they are not that good and i do not know why everybody is making a big deal about them.The big deal is ND and go to the ND prattsburg game next saturday to find out why

that was their first game
they were still coming together as a team
i'm planning on going to the game or having someone else record it for me
i agree that ND is very good but i think that pburgh will come out with the win

VbballV10
01-02-2008, 08:25 PM
it might of been their first game and all but after their point guard that did shut down nd point guard (francis) to about 10 points, but after that it seems like they have nobody except some shooters. I think that nd will win by about 8 because prattsburg has nobody to stop nd's bocchicio who will put down atleast 20

DuKe
01-02-2008, 09:03 PM
mabey. we'll see how it turns out. if nd does win though, i think it will be by only a few

UNCTarheels
01-03-2008, 08:17 AM
i saw prattsburg play and lose to ND by twenty....they are not that good and i do not know why everybody is making a big deal about them.The big deal is ND and go to the ND prattsburg game next saturday to find out why

It was their first game of the year and it was in Notre-Dame, that'd be tough for any team. Notre-Dame has a very nice Basketball team and I was in attendence for that game and was impressed. As far as the re-match i expect another very good game but I definately think it'll be much closer, I think either team can win this game.

As far as "why everybody is making a big deal about them." They're good, very good and that's why people are making a big deal about them. They have arguably the best point guard in all of Section V class D and many other great players, they're very deep and you throw in one of if not the best coach in Section V and you have a "Big Deal" you add in the fact that Coach Burke is closing in on 500 wins, they're top 3 in the state in Class D and you have even more of a "Big Deal"

ref301
01-03-2008, 09:04 AM
Saw Prattsburgh play Alexander in the Prattsburgh tournament. Alexander didn't play horribly and still got beat by 29. Prattsburgh is not hitting on all cylinders yet so they still have an upside to their season. The Alexander/ND game on Friday will give a good comparative of how the 2 teams have developed over the last several weeks.

ND is tough. Much more so than I would have anticipated at the start of the season. I expected Francis to have good year but am surprised at how much Bo' has improved from last year. I expect a similar Pburg/ND result as last year. P'burg blew ND out at ND in 06 and then they played a very close game at Prattsburgh. ND blew P'burg out at home in 07 and I expect a much closer game this time around as P'burg is much improved from the first meeting.

UNCTarheels
01-03-2008, 09:21 AM
i think that prattsburgh has a shot at a state title this year but they will have to step it up. if parker can keep shooting well and fuller does his thing, i think that they have a descent shot. their big men need to toughen up a bit if they plan on going all the way or not though. a couple people on the bench can shoot well too i think. like caron? not sure if thats his name or not but i see potential in him. wightman was supposed to be a great shooter but he hasn't showed anyone that yet. not to say he cant though. i've noticed fuller shooting 3's more often and that will probably be another threat to other teams along with his speed and all around ability to play the game.

Hey Duke, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. PBurgh's not going to win games from the 3 point line. They will win by playing defense and they have to get consistent play from Stanley AND Lewis, not one of them, but both of them, especially when playing the likes of C-S, ND and J-T.

Watching the games I've been to, PBurgh is playing 8 to 9 kids in the first quarter. Their depth is a big plus. Not much of a drop-off when they sub, except for when Wade comes out of the game.

Let's not forget about Houghton. No one is talking about them, but in my mind, they're the sleeper in the D bracket.

I'm quite sure PBurg's not talking about States, as they have a big challenge going after the league title, then the County Championship and finally the Sectional Title. Let's get real, they didn't look very good at Notre Dame. Next week's game with ND will give us an idea about the future.

DSport
01-03-2008, 09:28 AM
i think that prattsburgh has a shot at a state title this year but they will have to step it up. if parker can keep shooting well and fuller does his thing, i think that they have a descent shot. their big men need to toughen up a bit if they plan on going all the way or not though. a couple people on the bench can shoot well too i think. like caron? not sure if thats his name or not but i see potential in him. wightman was supposed to be a great shooter but he hasn't showed anyone that yet. not to say he cant though. i've noticed fuller shooting 3's more often and that will probably be another threat to other teams along with his speed and all around ability to play the game.

I'm as excited as you about Prattsburgh basketball but their lack of heigth is going to hurt them at the state level. Sure Dougie and Marshall play well for their size but that lack of height will hurt.
I have to give ND the nod to represent section V right now until Prattsburgh proves me wrong in their game against them. I hope they do but ND already beat them once so unless Prattsburgh returns the favor ND is the favorite. I do think that Prattsburgh should win Sectionals though and meet ND in the crossover game.

DuKe
01-03-2008, 12:39 PM
Hey Duke, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. PBurgh's not going to win games from the 3 point line. They will win by playing defense and they have to get consistent play from Stanley AND Lewis, not one of them, but both of them, especially when playing the likes of C-S, ND and J-T.

Watching the games I've been to, PBurgh is playing 8 to 9 kids in the first quarter. Their depth is a big plus. Not much of a drop-off when they sub, except for when Wade comes out of the game.

Let's not forget about Houghton. No one is talking about them, but in my mind, they're the sleeper in the D bracket.

I'm quite sure PBurg's not talking about States, as they have a big challenge going after the league title, then the County Championship and finally the Sectional Title. Let's get real, they didn't look very good at Notre Dame. Next week's game with ND will give us an idea about the future.

true
they do have some tough games ahead yet, which will tell me how good they really are, but i'm just saying that if they continue to play the way they do, then i think they have a shot. stanley and lewis both need to get bigger in the post and help out the rest of their team. if they both do, then i think that pburgh will be a tough team to beat.

VbballV10
01-03-2008, 02:21 PM
they must have done a lot of improoving then....not to mention nd's improovment too. Prattsburg better watch out for notre dame's 6'6 mark fanton who seems to have a heights advantage over the prattsburg players could throw in a good 12 points that could really help nd in this game next saturday

UNCTarheels
01-03-2008, 02:36 PM
I'm not about to go back-and-forth with you on this one I'll let the boys settle this one on the court. But I can tell you this Fanton did nothing against Prattsburgh in Rd 1 and I don't see him being a threat in Rd 2 either. I honestly think he'll get ran right off the court and with Prattsburghs speed Coach Rapone will go for a smaller line up with the exception of Bo.

VbballV10- I think your much better off sitting back and watching this one unfold rather than making Bold predictions when you have no idea what's going to happen. Do I think it's going to be much closer? Yes I do. Do I think Prattsburgh can win the game? Yes I do. Would I be surprised if Notre-Dame came in and beat Prattsburgh? No I would not. Will I be happy for Coach Rapone if he comes to Prattsburgh and picks up #500 on Coach Burke's Floor? Yes I will. I'd rather he not do it in Prattsburgh but if he does then, good for him! I want Prattsburgh to win the game but ND is good and if the better team wins then so be it.

There's nothing wrong at all with being confident in your team VbballV10 but you have to know when to talk and when to watch the game, if I'm a Notre-Dame fan I don't need to give Prattsburgh any Bulletin board material, the win in the season opener is all they needed...........

VbballV10
01-03-2008, 03:26 PM
i see your points about prattsburg and i know that this can be a very close win...not to mention that nd has not won at their court in about 3, 4 years or so. Going back to fanton you said that he did not do anything in the first game but when he matched up against wheatland Chilli's Williams in their next game he threw in about 14. When Francis gets shut down which he probably will, then he will have to create and give the ball to others which he is good at so expect people like Fanton, Whelehan, Pawlak and Mancuso to throw in 8 or more points each

Lukelakers
01-03-2008, 05:11 PM
BND has won at Prattsburgh in the last three or four years, as they won at the buzzer on a tip in either last year or the year before.

And Duke or anyone else for that matter, if you think Prattsburgh or any other Steuben County team is thinking about states, your sadly mistaken. The teams that are playing in Steuben County today could not carry the jock straps of some of the teams that have played at the state level in the last 20years from Steuben County. You won't find a bigger supporter than me of Prattsburgh boys basketball, but your kidding yourself if your thinking Coach Burke and his team are thinking about the states. But one thing Prattsburgh will always be number one in is CLASS!

UNCTarheels
01-04-2008, 09:37 AM
Very Well Said, can't agree with you more................

ref11
01-04-2008, 05:49 PM
andovers 2 losses were to cansarega first game of the year and whitesville rember when andover and whitesville play you can thro the records out they really get ready to play each other. andover test will come sat at lima then host houghton on the 11th

SecVBallin
01-05-2008, 10:46 PM
All in all, the game next saturday will be nuts! #2 and #3 class D teams in the state going at it!!!

DuKe
01-07-2008, 08:20 PM
BND has won at Prattsburgh in the last three or four years, as they won at the buzzer on a tip in either last year or the year before.

And Duke or anyone else for that matter, if you think Prattsburgh or any other Steuben County team is thinking about states, your sadly mistaken. The teams that are playing in Steuben County today could not carry the jock straps of some of the teams that have played at the state level in the last 20years from Steuben County. You won't find a bigger supporter than me of Prattsburgh boys basketball, but your kidding yourself if your thinking Coach Burke and his team are thinking about the states. But one thing Prattsburgh will always be number one in is CLASS!

now to think about it, your right i dont think anyone should be looking at states at all right now let alone a state title. there are many great teams in the leage and i think that a select few of them are and should be thinking about sectionals only. if they lose in sectionals then there is no states at all. but even before sectionals, they have to play well in the regular season.

syracusebball
01-08-2008, 06:25 PM
You guys can say that prattsburgh is not thinking about states as much as u want, but i think you wrong. Coach Burke is probably not but i bet you that the players on the prattsburgh team want to win it all.

DSport
01-08-2008, 06:41 PM
You guys can say that prattsburgh is not thinking about states as much as u want, but i think you wrong. Coach Burke is probably not but i bet you that the players on the prattsburgh team want to win it all.

They should be thinking one game at a time. Thinking ahead is how you get beat. Stay focused on the task at hand. If you make it to states, great.

MD13
01-11-2008, 11:47 PM
Beckford had a rediculous one handed alley oop dunk tonight against Lima Christian. While I haven't seen every dunker in section five I have to imagine that this kid is one of the best. Overheard people talking who said he's got 15 or so dunks this year. Back to the dunk though. Some poor kid (name and number anonymous) from Lima jumped to block it and got posterized. Beckford was dominant and the dunk was filthy!!!! And no I don't play for Northstar.

DSport
01-12-2008, 07:38 AM
Beckford had a rediculous one handed alley oop dunk tonight against Lima Christian. While I haven't seen every dunker in section five I have to imagine that this kid is one of the best. Overheard people talking who said he's got 15 or so dunks this year. Back to the dunk though. Some poor kid (name and number anonymous) from Lima jumped to block it and got posterized. Beckford was dominant and the dunk was filthy!!!! And no I don't play for Northstar.

He is a great athlete and sometimes puts up some ridiculous numbers. And yes, he has some ups.

ref11
01-12-2008, 10:33 AM
houghton was down by 6 at half they look rusty havent played a game in over 3 weeks the secong half the took over very solid man to man def. houghton slowed andovers break and took them out of there game. andovers loves to run but houghton took away the passing lanes very well. houghton was very paitent on off took advantage of andovers lack of size. houghton starts 4 sophmores and 1 junior they will egt better as the season goes on. coach merrill experince took over in the second half great half time adjustments. i dont know if they would give prattsburg a game but merrill and bruke are both great coaches.

BBalla32
01-12-2008, 01:23 PM
Actually they start 3 sophomores, a junior and a senior but close enough :-P but yea Houghton definately looked rusty but they fought back from being down six and showed they dont give up. That was definately a fun game to watch because neither team gave up and it was just hard play both ways... the scary thing for other teams is that Houghton has 2 other players that have scored in the high teens other than the 2 who did last night, so it looks like teams will take their blows from one person or another. Whitesville and Belfast look to be good games between these teams


As far as the states talk goes... Section V is pretty much royalty in basketball when it comes to Class D, so whoever wins the crossover game (whether it be Prattsburg, Northstar, Batavia Notre Dame, etc.) will probably make a run to the final four

DuKe
01-12-2008, 08:26 PM
the prattsburgh and bnd game was great. the lead switched a few times here and there but pburgh came out with the win. both pburgh and bnd coaches are on their way to 500 wins. what a game. i hate to brag, but vbballv10, i told u. but it was a great game by both teams. i really thought it was nice when coach burke went on the microphone and thanked bnd for the game and wished them luck for the rest of the year.

DSport
01-12-2008, 08:39 PM
the prattsburgh and bnd game was great. the lead switched a few times here and there but pburgh came out with the win. both pburgh and bnd coaches are on their way to 500 wins. what a game. i hate to brag, but vbballv10, i told u. but it was a great game by both teams. i really thought it was nice when coach burke went on the microphone and thanked bnd for the game and wished them luck for the rest of the year.

It was a classy move by a classy coach.

VbballV10
01-12-2008, 10:08 PM
do u think if there were decent refs and if the floor wasnt slippery where nd was shooting it would of been a closer win...but lets face it the series between the two this year is 1-1 and hopefully the two will face off in sectionals

hoopsfan35
01-12-2008, 10:37 PM
do u think if there were decent refs and if the floor wasnt slippery where nd was shooting it would of been a closer win...but lets face it the series between the two this year is 1-1 and hopefully the two will face off in sectionals

The refs did make a few calls for prattsburgh but as for the floor, prattsburgh was shooting on it too

DSport
01-12-2008, 11:44 PM
The refs did make a few calls for prattsburgh but as for the floor, prattsburgh was shooting on it too

They also made some bad calls in BND favor. I think the outcome would have been the same even with different officials and a dry floor. The floor and officials were the same for both teams. The reason BND lost was that Francis was guarded well and really only Bochiccio was hitting. Also I don't want to say poor refs plural because really there was only one of the two that was bad.

VbballV10
01-13-2008, 09:16 AM
yeah prattsburg still would have won i have to admit. They were a well coached team

syracusebball
01-13-2008, 12:16 PM
I think the outcome would have been the same.
But i dont know what was wrong with the floor i have seen alot of Prattsburgh games and i have never seen kids falling like that.

ref11
01-13-2008, 01:17 PM
i rember going there and sometimes the floor is slippery reffering there last year was like a skating rink. when we played there the slipnots wprk great

CoachD10
01-16-2008, 06:27 PM
Its very hard to get some larger schools to play your team especially in class D