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HiTsTiCk505
10-22-2007, 02:51 PM
What dose geneva have to do to beat zapata and hornell.? Also what players for geneva have to step it up for geneva to win?

BathRamsFan
10-22-2007, 03:00 PM
They Keys to beating Hornell is winning the Battle up front. Their offensive line does a fantastic (if not underappreciated) job. Saw it when they beat Bath. Job number ONE is keep Zapata between the tackles, easier said than done, but as LeRoy showed it can be done to an extent. Job number 2 is tACKLE!!! Sounds easy doesn't it? Should be a great game, looking forward to these 2 teams beating the heck out of each other before our rams play Whitman... GO RAMS!!!

Magic
10-22-2007, 05:10 PM
What dose geneva have to do to beat zapata and hornell.? Also what players for geneva have to step it up for geneva to win?
Geneva has to do what they did last year and thats dominate. Their team speed really hurt Hornell. Zapata struggled to find holes and both offensive and defensive lines last season where overmatched. Geneva's a good team and so is Hornell. This could be a great battle.

AuntieM
10-22-2007, 09:28 PM
I remember that Brian Fowler was on Geneva's team last year. He stood out as an incredible athlete with a positive attitude and good character. Much like David Zapata. If I am not mistake, he was a senior. Does anyone know if he went on to play for college?

I know that Hornell lost a lot of their seniors last year. Does anyone know how many are returning for Geneva?
I am looking forward to watching two strong teams (not necessarily individuals) play a great game.

VFan05
10-22-2007, 09:53 PM
I remember that Brian Fowler was on Geneva's team last year. He stood out as an incredible athlete with a positive attitude and good character. Much like David Zapata. If I am not mistake, he was a senior. Does anyone know if he went on to play for college?

I know that Hornell lost a lot of their seniors last year. Does anyone know how many are returning for Geneva?
I am looking forward to watching two strong teams (not necessarily individuals) play a great game.


Brian decided to go to Erie Community College in hopes of recieving a Division 1-A scholarship. He had several scholarship offers to 1-AA schools, but his heart was set on the top level. He is the starting tailback at ECC and is having a great season so far. Geneva lost 18 of 21 starters from last season, but returns key players QB Bobby Martin, RB Jeremiah Allen, and DT Mike Raplee. Allen was actually the leading rusher in the Hornell game last season as both he and Fowler went over 100 yards. It took the newcomers on Geneva a while to find their rhythm, and they seem to be peaking at the right time.

AuntieM
10-22-2007, 10:02 PM
Wow! I am impressed with how much you knew about Brian. Well, I wish him the best. ECC is lucky to have him.
It sounds like both teams have had to build up again.

I hope all of the kids stay healthy and play a game to be proud of, despite the outcome.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

willie
10-22-2007, 10:46 PM
Geneva is not physical enough on defense to stop Zapata. They don't bring the wood and jack people up like last year's team. They looked soft on defense when I watched them against Victor this year.

Brumski75
10-23-2007, 07:27 AM
Geneva is not physical enough on defense to stop Zapata. They don't bring the wood and jack people up like last year's team. They looked soft on defense when I watched them against Victor this year.

the Victor game was a difficult game to watch, defensively speaking. There have been a few changes since then. The defensive line has been switched around to run interference for the linebackers, and the team captains have stepped up giving this years team its own identity. I'm glad you bring up the Victor game because in my eyes it was the turning point in their season. Since then the middlebackers have played very well and both Chilbert and Grimes have come up to lay some wood. Coach Whitcom and Mastin are best of friends off the field and know each others tendancies very well, this should be a great game.

Section5sportsguy
10-23-2007, 09:01 AM
What dose geneva have to do to beat zapata and hornell.? Also what players for geneva have to step it up for geneva to win?

Show up.

totallyfive
10-23-2007, 11:29 AM
about as insightful as the rest of the "sports news" you write.

lbcoach45
10-23-2007, 01:47 PM
about as insightful as the rest of the "sports news" you write.

I was thinking the same thing, but after seeing he plays for Attica you can't blame him for wanting/expecting Geneva to win. It also makes many of his other posts about how good teams are make more sense. Hard to gauge the progress of schools in other leagues when you are in season.

football#1
10-23-2007, 07:10 PM
What dose geneva have to do to beat zapata and hornell.? Also what players for geneva have to step it up for geneva to win?

From what I heard,Zapata is not a runner that is going to run through people and tackles.He is hard to catch once he is through the hole because he is so fast.I think a team that is fast on defense and can contain to the outside and have quick linebackers inside have a shot at beating Hornell.I know nothing about Geneva or if they have that kind of team but I think thats how you can beat them.

Magic
10-23-2007, 07:46 PM
From what I heard,Zapata is not a runner that is going to run through people and tackles.He is hard to catch once he is through the hole because he is so fast.I think a team that is fast on defense and can contain to the outside and have quick linebackers inside have a shot at beating Hornell.I know nothing about Geneva or if they have that kind of team but I think thats how you can beat them.
OK lets get this right. Zapata is quick but he's not the fastest guy out there. The LCAA as a whole is not a speedy league so a guy like David looks faster than he is. He reads the holes and is patient. He trust his line. David can and has run over people but again thats not his strength. He cuts well and does a great job running forward so he's not likely to get stopped for a loss. If Geneva has the team speed to plug the holes so David has no where to run they will have a chance to win. I expect a good close game.

AuntieM
10-23-2007, 08:11 PM
OK lets get this right. Zapata is quick but he's not the fastest guy out there. The LCAA as a whole is not a speedy league so a guy like David looks faster than he is. He reads the holes and is patient. He trust his line. David can and has run over people but again thats not his strength. He cuts well and does a great job running forward so he's not likely to get stopped for a loss. If Geneva has the team speed to plug the holes so David has no where to run they will have a chance to win. I expect a good close game.

Zapata runs a 40 in 4.4 (Did this at a Columbine this summer in NJ)
I think that is pretty fast....Doesn't just look fast. Your statement cracked me up.

football#1
10-23-2007, 08:17 PM
Zapata runs a 40 in 4.4 (Did this at a Columbine this summer in NJ)
I think that is pretty fast....Doesn't just look fast. Your statement cracked me up.

Thats called a combine... not a columbine.

AuntieM
10-23-2007, 08:21 PM
Oops...You're right! I ALWAYS mess that up. Sorry about that.

footballchamp101
10-23-2007, 08:21 PM
" returns key players QB Bobby Martin, RB Jeremiah Allen, and DT Mike Raplee. "

What grade are these kids and what roles did they play last year and if they arent seniors this year what do you think they are going to do next year..?
(i kno this is looking way forward but its something im curious about)

Brumski75
10-23-2007, 09:02 PM
" returns key players QB Bobby Martin, RB Jeremiah Allen, and DT Mike Raplee. "

What grade are these kids and what roles did they play last year and if they arent seniors this year what do you think they are going to do next year..?
(i kno this is looking way forward but its something im curious about)

Allen is a Senior Tailback and is very dangerous from anywhere on the field. Last year he came into his own in the sectionals as a fullback in front of Brian Fowler. He also blocks very well which isn't the norm for a tailback. Martin was the starting qb all of last season as a sophmore. He has a great deal of potential and has been a good team leader. Raplee was a sophmore also last year and started at defensive end in the sectionals after the loss of Matt Schootz to a broken leg. He has moved to defensive tackle the last half of the season and is doing great.

You didn't mention Jimmy Warner, who is a senior, which has been a three year starter at outside linebacker. He also Plays tight end and is back up qb to Martin.

Next year is a year I'm looking forward to because this is a young team. What they can learn from this years team is to create their own identity and play with heart. Coach Whitcomb has provided the tools.

bathtime
10-24-2007, 04:48 PM
Saw on the Northeast Football Conference Website that Fowler has played 7 games and has 60 carries for 304 yards and 1 touchdown. For being the starting running back that is not very good. I hope they have an amazing passing game or something.

Brumski75
10-24-2007, 05:11 PM
Saw on the Northeast Football Conference Website that Fowler has played 7 games and has 60 carries for 304 yards and 1 touchdown. For being the starting running back that is not very good. I hope they have an amazing passing game or something.

I don't think he started at tailback at the beginning of the season. He also starts on the defensive backfield and is doing well. At Five yards per carry as a freshman he's looking pretty good. Some more weight room training and academic improvement and the sky's the limit. Good luck Brian!!!

DAMAGE INC 68
10-24-2007, 05:12 PM
I talked to a guy from Geneva he said that they have a running back by committe at Erie.

VFan05
10-24-2007, 05:36 PM
ECC passes the ball quite a bit. Brian gets around 10 carries a game, and though they do go with a RB by committee approach, he gets the bulk of the carries.

football#1
10-24-2007, 07:49 PM
Saw on the Northeast Football Conference Website that Fowler has played 7 games and has 60 carries for 304 yards and 1 touchdown. For being the starting running back that is not very good. I hope they have an amazing passing game or something.

I have heard they are a pretty dangerous passing team.Their leading receiver has 32 receptions through 7 games and averages 15 yds per catch.
I have also heard that Brian is doing a very good job at RB for them.I'll be at the game on Saturday. Hope Brian has a great game!

football#1
10-24-2007, 08:03 PM
Brian decided to go to Erie Community College in hopes of recieving a Division 1-A scholarship. He had several scholarship offers to 1-AA schools, but his heart was set on the top level. He is the starting tailback at ECC and is having a great season so far. Geneva lost 18 of 21 starters from last season, but returns key players QB Bobby Martin, RB Jeremiah Allen, and DT Mike Raplee. Allen was actually the leading rusher in the Hornell game last season as both he and Fowler went over 100 yards. It took the newcomers on Geneva a while to find their rhythm, and they seem to be peaking at the right time.

I hope he gets the scholarship he's looking for.I know some people think that community college football is grade 13 football but nothing could be further from the truth.The rosters at New York Community Colleges are full of kids just like Brian who want another chance to go D-1 because they didn't want to settle for 1AA,div 2,or 3.There are also those kids with D-1 talent whose academic records prevented them getting a scholarship and need to work it out,and those players who never got to prove themselves to D-1 recruiters because of injury,playing on weak teams or whatever the reason.The point is that the talent is pretty amazing that there are only I believe 3 Comm coll. football schools in New York and getting recruited can be more difficult than at a D3 school because of the talent level.Good luck to Brian.I wish him the best.

conors72
10-27-2007, 12:16 AM
I hope he gets the scholarship he's looking for.I know some people think that community college football is grade 13 football but nothing could be further from the truth.The rosters at New York Community Colleges are full of kids just like Brian who want another chance to go D-1 because they didn't want to settle for 1AA,div 2,or 3.There are also those kids with D-1 talent whose academic records prevented them getting a scholarship and need to work it out,and those players who never got to prove themselves to D-1 recruiters because of injury,playing on weak teams or whatever the reason.The point is that the talent is pretty amazing that there are only I believe 3 Comm coll. football schools in New York and getting recruited can be more difficult than at a D3 school because of the talent level.Good luck to Brian.I wish him the best.

now this is just me, but i've always tried to use football as a means to better myself, as i plan on doing in college, if I decide to play. I think it's stupid to go to a community college just for the sake of playing football when there are other institutions out there offering to help you with your tuition if you go there. To go to a good school and get a good education at a reduced or possibly nonexistent rate would prove much more beneficial than just going to community college in the hopes of playing d-1. get yourself a good education. If you're going to community college because you couldn't get recruited by d-1 programs, chances are that you will not be playing in the NFL. So why not get a college degree from an established institution while paying close to nothing?

TAtransam
10-27-2007, 03:22 AM
now this is just me, but i've always tried to use football as a means to better myself, as i plan on doing in college, if I decide to play. I think it's stupid to go to a community college just for the sake of playing football when there are other institutions out there offering to help you with your tuition if you go there. To go to a good school and get a good education at a reduced or possibly nonexistent rate would prove much more beneficial than just going to community college in the hopes of playing d-1. get yourself a good education. If you're going to community college because you couldn't get recruited by d-1 programs, chances are that you will not be playing in the NFL. So why not get a college degree from an established institution while paying close to nothing?

Many players in NFL did JUCO stop before going to D 1 schools as many went to "prep schools" before going D1

conors72
10-27-2007, 02:14 PM
Many players in NFL did JUCO stop before going to D 1 schools as many went to "prep schools" before going D1

still, the person football#1 is referring to will not be playing in the nfl, and he needs to realize that.

dfisch80
10-28-2007, 11:58 AM
...score??

dfisch80
10-28-2007, 12:51 PM
33-12 Geneva with 5:30 left to go...Allen's had over 300 yrds

Section5sportsguy
10-28-2007, 02:29 PM
Geneva is the real deal. I know from experience lol

TurnTwo
10-28-2007, 02:36 PM
Kind of legitimizes Attica's 33-6 loss. They'll make a run at state again.

lbcoach45
10-28-2007, 06:07 PM
Allen is a beast. First time seeing him in person, he is the best I have seen this year and only Jackson from BK is on the same level the last two years. Strong runner, with great speed and vision. Geneva is better than I thought and I thought they were pretty good coming in.

I think Allen had 200 in the first half, I know he was very close to that in the first.

VFan05
10-28-2007, 09:30 PM
He had 249 at halftime. 319 overall and 4 td's. This is the first time since ninth grade that he has been 100% healthy.

totallyfive
10-29-2007, 09:55 AM
Totally dominant Geneva team, not even close. I knew they were underrated all season losing only to Canandaigua and Victor. A healthy Allen was amazing on a slick field. Similar style to Hornell so Bath has a problem coming. As for the drunk Bath fans on the Hornell side, definately not representative of MOST Bath people, just drunk idiots that all towns have some of.. Could of been bad if they hadn't run away like rabbits when the Hornell fathers rushed them, loved the hand cuffs on the way out.

UNCTarheels
10-29-2007, 11:04 AM
HHS has no answers: Red Raiders mystified as Allen cruises to 249 yards in first half (http://www.eveningtribune.com/articles/2007/10/29/sports/sports01.txt)-Hornell Tribune

conors72
10-30-2007, 11:27 PM
i really like geneva's helmets. just thought you all should know.

Section5sportsguy
10-31-2007, 06:07 PM
i really like geneva's helmets. just thought you all should know.

Well, they're not exactly original.