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2 Fast 4 U
09-04-2011, 01:09 PM
One game in the books with Hornell beating BK and Wellsville upsetting Letchworth (last years Section V champs)

In an effort to not be too much of a homer, I think Hornell will come home from Wellsville 2-0, but maybe not by as much of a margin as some other may think.

The last time I found that Wellsville beat Hornell was............1972. Hornell was 0-8 that year.

Hornell has won 27 straight games, is averaging around 50 points per game and only 3 teams in the past 2 years have been within 3 touchdowns of them. However, I would bet that Letchworth was just as confident with their stats, I believe shutting out every team until sectionals.

My prediction Hornell 42 Wellsville 14

raider4ever
09-04-2011, 01:52 PM
One game in the books with Hornell beating BK and Wellsville upsetting Letchworth (last years Section V champs)

In an effort to not be too much of a homer, I think Hornell will come home from Wellsville 2-0, but maybe not by as much of a margin as some other may think.

The last time I found that Wellsville beat Hornell was............1972. Hornell was 0-8 that year.

Hornell has won 27 straight games, is averaging around 50 points per game and only 3 teams in the past 2 years have been within 3 touchdowns of them. However, I would bet that Letchworth was just as confident with their stats, I believe shutting out every team until sectionals.

My prediction Hornell 42 Wellsville 14

Yes it was a good win for the Wellsville program but Letchworths stud tailback Chris Nevinger did not play in this game for whatever reason. Put him in the mix you may have seen a different result.

WarsawFootball
09-04-2011, 02:22 PM
Agreed i think if letchworth had Nevinger would have been a loss to wellsville.

letchfan101
09-04-2011, 10:23 PM
Also, letchworth had 6 turnovers. 3 fumbles which I believe 2 of them where within the red zone. Letchworth only played approximately 13 or 14 players for the whole game. As to mention lack of our starting running back.

farmer
09-05-2011, 09:42 AM
Also, letchworth had 6 turnovers. 3 fumbles which I believe 2 of them where within the red zone. Letchworth only played approximately 13 or 14 players for the whole game. As to mention lack of our starting running back.

IF letch would"ve won you "d be saying they DID with few players awithout their{star} can we get any love for wellsville????

Red Raider Man
09-05-2011, 11:58 AM
Wellsville, you guys are the real deal, but saying that you are gonna have your hands full with Hornell, will be an acme of an understatement !

raider4ever
09-05-2011, 12:59 PM
IF letch would"ve won you "d be saying they DID with few players awithout their{star} can we get any love for wellsville????

Farmer, if Wellsville can stay within 20 points of Hornell this Friday I will give them some love.

waterbug
09-05-2011, 04:10 PM
IF letch would"ve won you "d be saying they DID with few players awithout their{star} can we get any love for wellsville????

I think Wellsville played a great game, somethings went their way and some didn't. But it is what it is and a win is a win. So congrats Wellsville. I for one will be in the stands Friday Night!

farmer
09-05-2011, 05:02 PM
Farmer, if Wellsville can stay within 20 points of Hornell this Friday I will give them some love.

HOPEN IT WILL BE A CLOSE GAME A win would be huge for wellsville.

WarsawFootball
09-05-2011, 07:23 PM
Im sorry but i think Hornell has this one.. Too wellsville it was a good win. but Letchworth was with out Nevinger and we all know he's a great back. think the game may have different with him being there. And also you might not want to get to cocky before a game. Let the players speak with there pads on the field. :

trackNxc
09-06-2011, 11:04 AM
Just goes back to any team can beat anyone else on any given day, great win for Wellsville tough loss for Letchworth, i am sure they will bounce back but never count someone out till that final whistle blows. Thats why they play the game! I think it will be a close one, the Lions are riding on some big momentum and sometimes that is all it takes. Good luck to both teams for a great performance and safe night of football

Bigzee
09-06-2011, 01:56 PM
Sorry to say !! Hornell is going to wreck Wellsville!! I am not from Hornell --its just going to happen !! SORRY !!

rebelman47
09-07-2011, 06:21 PM
I saw the entire Hornell game this weekend and have to say that they look really good. Team looks real fast on defense, running game very impressive as it has been the past many years. Scavo only threw 4 passes in the 2 1/2 quarters that he played, but was dead on with all 4 passes. I'm not from the area and not sure how good BK is supposed to be, but even the 2nd team for hornell looked better. Good luck to both teams for a great game.

Raider Fan-addict
09-09-2011, 12:26 PM
Wellsville better be ready because the BIG RED MACHINE is comming to town tonight.

Hornell4Life
09-09-2011, 08:38 PM
Final... I was off by 8 points for Hornell and 1 point from Wellsville. I must be slipping...

Hornell - 41
Wellsville - 6

~H4L~

P.S. Stock tip - forget stocks, buy gold

BathRamsFan
09-09-2011, 11:33 PM
Final... I was off by 8 points for Hornell and 1 point from Wellsville. I must be slipping...

Hornell - 41
Wellsville - 6

~H4L~

P.S. Stock tip - forget stocks, buy gold

You can't do better than that? You should be ashamed! lol

InsideLookingOut
09-10-2011, 12:37 AM
I saw the game, Scavo 41, Wellsville 6. Hornell had no running game. The QB is amazing, two scores were fingertips away from defenders. Hornell better hit Arkport to recruit because had Scavo went down early, Wellsville wins this game early. Any Hornell fan with a pulse saw what happened.

2 Fast 4 U
09-10-2011, 07:06 AM
I saw the game, Scavo 41, Wellsville 6. Hornell had no running game. The QB is amazing, two scores were fingertips away from defenders. Hornell better hit Arkport to recruit because had Scavo went down early, Wellsville wins this game early. Any Hornell fan with a pulse saw what happened.

Neither team could get the running game going. Field was very slippery, with McKibben falling in the open field on almost every carry.

Statistical Sumary:

Rushing Carry-Yards
Hornell 32-145
Wellsville 33-30

Passing Yards
Hornell 258
Wellsville 55

Even without the passing game, not sure this would have been over early. Less than 1 yd/carry wont light up the scoreboard. Wellsville is a tough team. Would not be surprised to see them stop Bath, Batavia and Livonia.

farmer
09-10-2011, 07:19 AM
good game hornell

Double two
09-10-2011, 07:33 AM
I saw the game, Scavo 41, Wellsville 6. Hornell had no running game. The QB is amazing, two scores were fingertips away from defenders. Hornell better hit Arkport to recruit because had Scavo went down early, Wellsville wins this game early. Any Hornell fan with a pulse saw what happened.

I was so glad to see Scavo finally being given the opportunity to throw the ball. Typically, Hornell runs early and gets a big lead. Because of this, Scavo can't throw for fear that it will look like they are running up the score. Tonight they came out throwing and he put on a clinic. As for your opinion of the HHS running game, you should come to some more Hornell games to see if you change your mind. Hornells RB Scott McKibben is right up there with Hornells backs of the last three years (Zappata, Dwyer and Stonerock). He is fast, has great vision and is tough to tackle. He was the class B offensive player of the week last week with over 200 yards on just 12 carries. By the way, even though the score looked very lopsided, the Wellsville team is very good. From what I saw, they will be tough to beat the rest of the year. Good luck to the Lions! P.S.: What a beautiful new field you have in Wellsville!

2 Fast 4 U
09-10-2011, 07:36 AM
Final... I was off by 8 points for Hornell and 1 point from Wellsville. I must be slipping...

Hornell - 41
Wellsville - 6

~H4L~

P.S. Stock tip - forget stocks, buy gold


Any early pick for the WayCo game?:confused:

The economy is going to come back so strong that people will be throwing out their gold.:D

Hornell4Life
09-10-2011, 10:44 PM
Any early pick for the WayCo game?:confused:

The economy is going to come back so strong that people will be throwing out their gold.:D

Prediction

Hornell - 48

Way-Co - 7

Way-Co has looked good in their first 2 games. I don't think they will perform well against Hornell's Fast and Physical 1st team D.

~H4L~

UNCTarheels
09-12-2011, 08:39 AM
Dom Scavo had 258 yards passing in the first half vs. Wellsville, could you imagine what he could have done if Coach Mastin had let him throw in the 3rd quarter? I understand why he didn't Coach Mastin is a class act and isn't going to allow them to run up the score but I'm guessing Scavo could have easily surpassed 500 yards passing

Hornell4Life
09-12-2011, 08:48 AM
Dom Scavo had 258 yards passing in the first half vs. Wellsville, could you imagine what he could have done if Coach Mastin had let him throw in the 3rd quarter? I understand why he didn't Coach Mastin is a class act and isn't going to allow them to run up the score but I'm guessing Scavo could have easily surpassed 500 yards passing

I am not sure about 500 yards. Although he is a great passer, very accurate, and can throw the bomb when needed. I think that if he were allowed to play en entire game it would be mid to high 400's maybe 500 if the conditions were right. In the Wellsville game you know the coach would have made adjustments in the locker room at the half which would have tightened the pass defense. In turn it would have also loosened the rush defense. Either way it is no fun trying to figure out a defense to use against Hornell.

~H4L~

UNCTarheels
09-12-2011, 09:31 AM
I saw the game, Scavo 41, Wellsville 6. Hornell had no running game. The QB is amazing, two scores were fingertips away from defenders. Hornell better hit Arkport to recruit because had Scavo went down early, Wellsville wins this game early. Any Hornell fan with a pulse saw what happened.

I wasn't at the game and have no idea what you're talking about, so please explain, what happened?

raider4ever
09-12-2011, 11:28 AM
Too funny! Mastin has bought Arkport boys for years.

So you're saying that Coach Mastin buys football players from a school that doesn't even have football? Now that is too funny.

Raider Fan-addict
09-12-2011, 12:00 PM
I saw the game, Scavo 41, Wellsville 6. Hornell had no running game. The QB is amazing, two scores were fingertips away from defenders. Hornell better hit Arkport to recruit because had Scavo went down early, Wellsville wins this game early. Any Hornell fan with a pulse saw what happened.

I was at the game and i do have a pulse and this is what i saw! Wellsville had absolutely no D-fence. Scavo had all the time he wanted for passing and the tailback (SM) slipped on almost every carry. Hornell dominated the O line and the D line. Hornell scored on almost every possession. It sounds like somebody needs a spoonfull of sugar to help the medicine go down!

InsideLookingOut
09-16-2011, 07:30 AM
I thought that #66 boy from Wellsville had a lot to do with Hornell's running game having 20 yards on 12 carries at the half, but i guess they slipped each time. Thank God for two things: Scavo didn't miss the bus and the other 10 players, especially the Red Raider receivers, didn't slip.
We all want to see Hornell win states again, but deal with the fact it wasn't the blowout you wanted, Hornell had zero yards rushing until Wellsville emptied the bench early in the 4th and Scavo was a one-man wrecking crew. Even the Hornell paper wrote that they are one-dimensional in the paper Sunday. Now to bolster the running game, I could have made a Zapata joke!

farmer
09-16-2011, 08:22 AM
i thought that #66 boy from wellsville had a lot to do with hornell's running game having 20 yards on 12 carries at the half, but i guess they slipped each time. Thank god for two things: Scavo didn't miss the bus and the other 10 players, especially the red raider receivers, didn't slip.
We all want to see hornell win states again, but deal with the fact it wasn't the blowout you wanted, hornell had zero yards rushing until wellsville emptied the bench early in the 4th and scavo was a one-man wrecking crew. Even the hornell paper wrote that they are one-dimensional in the paper sunday. Now to bolster the running game, i could have made a zapata joke!

i agree.

raider4ever
09-16-2011, 11:34 AM
I thought that #66 boy from Wellsville had a lot to do with Hornell's running game having 20 yards on 12 carries at the half, but i guess they slipped each time. Thank God for two things: Scavo didn't miss the bus and the other 10 players, especially the Red Raider receivers, didn't slip.
We all want to see Hornell win states again, but deal with the fact it wasn't the blowout you wanted, Hornell had zero yards rushing until Wellsville emptied the bench early in the 4th and Scavo was a one-man wrecking crew. Even the Hornell paper wrote that they are one-dimensional in the paper Sunday. Now to bolster the running game, I could have made a Zapata joke!

Just curious, on what planet is 41-6 not a blowout? Hornell had 0 yards until the 4th? What game were you watching? Yes it was an uncharacteristic bad rushing game for the Raiders, but I wouldn't count out Hornells run game just yet. Talk to me after the Wayland game who I feel is every bit as good as Wellsville if not better.

Raider Fan-addict
09-16-2011, 01:59 PM
I thought that #66 boy from Wellsville had a lot to do with Hornell's running game having 20 yards on 12 carries at the half, but i guess they slipped each time. Thank God for two things: Scavo didn't miss the bus and the other 10 players, especially the Red Raider receivers, didn't slip.
We all want to see Hornell win states again, but deal with the fact it wasn't the blowout you wanted, Hornell had zero yards rushing until Wellsville emptied the bench early in the 4th and Scavo was a one-man wrecking crew. Even the Hornell paper wrote that they are one-dimensional in the paper Sunday. Now to bolster the running game, I could have made a Zapata joke!

Here are a few facts for you: Scott McKibbin 8-53yrds, Zack Bacon 4-22yrds, Dominic Scavo 6-29. As a team Hornell was 32-145yrds and that was an off night. You are Wellsville and you shut the Hornell run game down. If Hornell wanted to run the ball the tailback SM would have had 32 carries alone.

Footballfan2
09-16-2011, 04:46 PM
I thought that #66 boy from Wellsville had a lot to do with Hornell's running game having 20 yards on 12 carries at the half, but i guess they slipped each time. Thank God for two things: Scavo didn't miss the bus and the other 10 players, especially the Red Raider receivers, didn't slip.
We all want to see Hornell win states again, but deal with the fact it wasn't the blowout you wanted, Hornell had zero yards rushing until Wellsville emptied the bench early in the 4th and Scavo was a one-man wrecking crew. Even the Hornell paper wrote that they are one-dimensional in the paper Sunday. Now to bolster the running game, I could have made a Zapata joke!

First thing I'd like to say is that Wellsville did do a nice job of containing the Hornell run game. #66 and #70 specifically had great games. Wellsville is a good team and I hope they win class C, but you are out of your mind if you don't think that was a blowout. Come on......34-0 at halftime. The second half could have been just as bad if Hornell didn't take their foot off the gas. Again, Wellsville did a nice job stopping the run when Hornell tried, but why go back to it when you can throw all day. If Hornell wanted to continue running the ball, they wouldn't have scored as many points, but they would have put the ball in the end zone. Keeping the rush game under 200 yards doesn't make it any less of blowout.

That being said......good luck to both Hornell and Wellsville tonight. Bring home a couple of wins.

Hornell4Life
09-16-2011, 11:43 PM
That being said......good luck to both Hornell and Wellsville tonight. Bring home a couple of wins.

Both Hornell and Wellsville brought home wins and in a big way. Congrats to both teams.

Hornell-49 - Way-Co-8

Wellsville-42 - Bath-20

~H4L~

InsideLookingOut
09-17-2011, 12:52 AM
You Hornell guys are characters, as bad as your coach who cried in the paper that Wellsville didn't show them preseason respect? Really? This is getting funny. As a fan of Hornell, I point out that the running game had no yards til the scrubs came in. And after tonight, I am convinced Scavo had the game of his life or Hornell loses to Wellsville last week. Don't throw out meaningless stats that Mastin inflated (and those stats really aren't good) by keeping his starters in until the game was almost over. Enjoy your run, accept constructive criticism, improve and win states. I was shocked to see the Bath-Wellsville score, but again, it shows Hornell has one player. Standing by a horse while his teammates are in the background relieved he is still in school.

raider4ever
09-17-2011, 01:12 AM
You Hornell guys are characters, as bad as your coach who cried in the paper that Wellsville didn't show them preseason respect? Really? This is getting funny. As a fan of Hornell, I point out that the running game had no yards til the scrubs came in. And after tonight, I am convinced Scavo had the game of his life or Hornell loses to Wellsville last week. Don't throw out meaningless stats that Mastin inflated (and those stats really aren't good) by keeping his starters in until the game was almost over. Enjoy your run, accept constructive criticism, improve and win states. I was shocked to see the Bath-Wellsville score, but again, it shows Hornell has one player. Standing by a horse while his teammates are in the background relieved he is still in school.

So then going by your reasoning wouldn't that make Wellsville a one trick pony with Berardi? Looking at his stats in the Bath game, I'm thinking that he misses the bus Wellsville goes down in flames. Please explain to me how the Bath-Wellsville score shows that Hornell has one player. As far as respect I think a 41-6 blowout and 2, count them 2 state patches is all the respect the Raiders need. Seriously Inside Looking Out maybe you should get outside and get some fresh air.

TC25
09-17-2011, 06:00 AM
You Hornell guys are characters, as bad as your coach who cried in the paper that Wellsville didn't show them preseason respect? Really? This is getting funny. As a fan of Hornell, I point out that the running game had no yards til the scrubs came in. And after tonight, I am convinced Scavo had the game of his life or Hornell loses to Wellsville last week. Don't throw out meaningless stats that Mastin inflated (and those stats really aren't good) by keeping his starters in until the game was almost over. Enjoy your run, accept constructive criticism, improve and win states. I was shocked to see the Bath-Wellsville score, but again, it shows Hornell has one player. Standing by a horse while his teammates are in the background relieved he is still in school.

I went to the Hornell/WayCo and I believe that any HS football fan with a pulse must surely have seen that Hornell can pass, run and play sound defense. The supposed one player team racked up over three hundred yards running and the starting defense which he is not a part of allowed zero points, again. The one player O- line again did not allow the one player to be sacked. Of course I was on the outside looking in, not on the inside looking out , it seems if you look at it from the inside looking out it distorts your perception, like knowing when a team runs or passes by design. Also it appears to turn fans against the team they supposedly root for, either that or it makes rival fans too ashamed to admit that their team is down therefore having to resort to bad mouthing the successful team they hate under the guise of being a fan.

Footballfan2
09-17-2011, 08:13 AM
You Hornell guys are characters, as bad as your coach who cried in the paper that Wellsville didn't show them preseason respect? Really? This is getting funny. As a fan of Hornell, I point out that the running game had no yards til the scrubs came in. And after tonight, I am convinced Scavo had the game of his life or Hornell loses to Wellsville last week. Don't throw out meaningless stats that Mastin inflated (and those stats really aren't good) by keeping his starters in until the game was almost over. Enjoy your run, accept constructive criticism, improve and win states. I was shocked to see the Bath-Wellsville score, but again, it shows Hornell has one player. Standing by a horse while his teammates are in the background relieved he is still in school.

Do you know anything about football? Serious question! Every town has a fan like you. Someone that has to get on of these forums and say ridiculous things making their hometown look bad. I'm sure glad you aren't cheering for my team. I would be ashamed. Good thing some of us are still tuned into reality and wouldn't let some know-nothing fan stop us from rooting for Wellsville. Congrats for the win Lions. Great game tonight Hornell. Keep up the good work.

InsideLookingOut
09-17-2011, 10:27 AM
I don't ever remember taking an oath that says to be a Hornell fan you must only post positive things. I too am cheering for a threepeat, just point out some things many observed. I think I'd rather discuss the QBs in LCAA because a lot of points are going up on the board and thanks to the success of Hornell, college coaches are watching more than one team on tape.

flhoops
09-17-2011, 11:51 AM
I don't ever remember taking an oath that says to be a Hornell fan you must only post positive things. I too am cheering for a threepeat, just point out some things many observed. I think I'd rather discuss the QBs in LCAA because a lot of points are going up on the board and thanks to the success of Hornell, college coaches are watching more than one team on tape.

...you sound like a parent whose son isn't a starter & as a result can't fully enjoy the teams success??

Hornell4Life
09-17-2011, 02:26 PM
**Scraping off the sugar coating**

OK, In plain English.

Did Hornell have a poor running game against Wellsville = YES
Did Hornell make up for it in the passing game = YES
Did Wellsville shutdown the run for whatever reason (slipping, great defense, bad handoffs, whatever) = YES
Did Wellsville shutdown the passing game of Hornell = NO
Did Hornell win the game in convincing fashion = YES
Did Hornell allow more than 1 TD in any game this season = NO

Total rushing yards combined between Week 1 & 2 that Hornell has allowed = -13 (Negative 13) That's 96 minutes of football and only allowing negative 13 rushing yards. I don't care who you are or what team you are a fan of that is an impressive stat.

It sounds to me that Wellsville was soundly beaten. As was Bishop Kearney, and Wayland-Cohocton.

Does every team (Hornell included) need to improve = YES

~H4L~

Hornell4Life
09-17-2011, 02:37 PM
Hornell vs. Wellsville stats
1st Downs
Hornell-----Wellsville
18----------7
Rushing Carry-Yards
Hornell-----Wellsville
32-145-----33-30
Passing Yards
Hornell-----Wellsville
258---------55
Passing C-A-I
Hornell-----Wellsville
13-18-0----7-17-0
Total Yards
Hornell-----Wellsville
403---------85
Punts #-Average
Hornell-----Wellsville
2-43--------6-32
Fumbles/Lost
Hornell-----Wellsville
1-1---------0-0
Penalties/Yards
Hornell-----Wellsville
1-5---------4-47

So in which of these stats does Wellsville win this game? The only stat that Wellsville was better in was Fumbles and 1 fumble by Hornell doesn't cost them the game when they scored 6 TD's to Wellsville' 1 TD

~H4L~

raider4ever
09-17-2011, 08:17 PM
Hornell vs. Wellsville stats
1st Downs
Hornell-----Wellsville
18----------7
Rushing Carry-Yards
Hornell-----Wellsville
32-145-----33-30
Passing Yards
Hornell-----Wellsville
258---------55
Passing C-A-I
Hornell-----Wellsville
13-18-0----7-17-0
Total Yards
Hornell-----Wellsville
403---------85
Punts #-Average
Hornell-----Wellsville
2-43--------6-32
Fumbles/Lost
Hornell-----Wellsville
1-1---------0-0
Penalties/Yards
Hornell-----Wellsville
1-5---------4-47

So in which of these stats does Wellsville win this game? The only stat that Wellsville was better in was Fumbles and 1 fumble by Hornell doesn't cost them the game when they scored 6 TD's to Wellsville' 1 TD

~H4L~

Myself like the rest of the Hornell fans on this site got caught up in InsideLookingOuts ramblings about Scavo being Hornells only weapon and Wellsville would have won if not for him. Lets be honest here on Hornells worst day and Wellsvilles best day it's still a 4 or 5 td win by the Raiders. Wellsville has turned their program around and they have a lot to be proud of, but as of right now they are nowhere near the level of Hornells ability. The players themselves have definitely moved past the game and its time that I did too. Wellsville and Way-Co should be a heck of a game. Good luck to both teams.