Player of the Year

[315-4-life]

Still a lot of league games to go, but never to early to start up this thread: Here is who I see as top contenders:

Midlakes - Kori Hughes - Won the award last year, and I dont think is as dominating as last year. League is really making sure they mark her. Still scoring a ton of goals. Stats outside league are inflated. Has to be frontrunner especially if they win the league.

Pal Mac - top 2 players are Gagliano and May - If PM wins they league they will have an arguement. I think May is stronger player even though Gagliano but Gagliano has the stats.

Wayne - Not sure they have one - Goalie would be if they can win some league games.

Mynderse - Verkey girl or their sweeper could contend.

Newark - Brynn Lauer is having a great season and is by far Newark's MVP. I just don't see her competing with the top 2. Probably third best player in league.

[newarkformerplayer]

A little early, but i agree with this list of canidates. Probably the same list if we did it during preseason

[g-man]

uh, hughs to start the season, hughs in the middle and hughs at the end of the season. is there really anyone else at her level this year.

[315-4-life]

uh, hughs to start the season, hughs in the middle and hughs at the end of the season. is there really anyone else at her level this year.

When was last time league had back to back Player of the year? Do we think its harder to give award to same kid?

[lakers13]

When was last time league had back to back Player of the year? Do we think its harder to give award to same kid?

how can poy be someone who cannot score in their teams biggest games but pads stats against lesser opponants and whos team gaves out two assists on goals its not hockey,three games in two years vs pal mac not one goal.they listed her as scoring last nite but it was an own goal and they gave it to her she was not in the play,

[midfan]

hughs was the last midlakes player to kick the ball ......so how does she not get credit for the goal???????

[AlwaysRunning]

hughs was the last midlakes player to kick the ball ......so how does she not get credit for the goal???????

If it is truly an own goal - no one should get credit for it. Just like there should be no secondary assists. Just one of the quirks of the HS game.

[marionAlum]

If it is truly an own goal - no one should get credit for it. Just like there should be no secondary assists. Just one of the quirks of the HS game.

Second assists should not be in the stats..

The own goal issue though... If its a true own goal, not just a deflection from a hard shot etc, the correct soccer ruling is actually not no credit or the last attacking player to touch the ball. By rule the goal is credited to the closest attacking player to the defender who put it in. reason behind this is that attacker had the.most influence on the goal. That should be how it is scored at all levels, but usually not scored correctly

[315-4-life]

Second assists should not be in the stats..

The own goal issue though... If its a true own goal, not just a deflection from a hard shot etc, the correct soccer ruling is actually not no credit or the last attacking player to touch the ball. By rule the goal is credited to the closest attacking player to the defender who put it in. reason behind this is that attacker had the.most influence on the goal. That should be how it is scored at all levels, but usually not scored correctly

My opinion is a 2nd assist should be when it is three straight touches. When the first assist person one touches to a shooter that one touches. For example the 1st assist is merely a deflection of some kind. I looked at FLE stats and some teams never use it, some use it all the time, I am sure this is a padding stats thing.

As far as own goal, sure give it to closest player I mean its high School soccer, but an assist on an own goal is a joke.

[AlwaysRunning]

Second assists should not be in the stats..

The own goal issue though... If its a true own goal, not just a deflection from a hard shot etc, the correct soccer ruling is actually not no credit or the last attacking player to touch the ball. By rule the goal is credited to the closest attacking player to the defender who put it in. reason behind this is that attacker had the.most influence on the goal. That should be how it is scored at all levels, but usually not scored correctly

By rule? I have never seen this rule - can you show me where it states this rule? The only own goal rule I know is to credit it to the player that put it in and put OG next to it meaning that player put the ball in their own net

My opinion is a 2nd assist should be when it is three straight touches. When the first assist person one touches to a shooter that one touches. For example the 1st assist is merely a deflection of some kind. I looked at FLE stats and some teams never use it, some use it all the time, I am sure this is a padding stats thing.

As far as own goal, sure give it to closest player I mean its high School soccer, but an assist on an own goal is a joke.

Thats a nice theory on a 2nd assist, but the problem is it doesn't really exist in soccer. A true assist means you helped the person score the goal with your pass. If you shoot the ball and it rebounds off the post to your teammate and they score that is not an assist. You were shooting, not assisting. I would venture to guess that 75% of the 1st assists that are given out are not assists.

Don't even get me started on saves - when I attend games I see goalies make a handful of saves and if I look at the stats they are credited with 25 some times. If a keeper catches a cross, a through ball, breaks up a player's dribble, catches a corner kick, stops a ball from going out of bounds - none of those are saves. They need to stop an attempt at goal.

[flhoops]

I always thought that a save" was stopping a ball that otherwise would have directly gone into the goal? Stopping a shot that is going wide of the goal should not be counted as a save, correct?

[lakers13]

why do we all just look at stats for player of the year .so you have to score goals to be one of the best . that really is unforunate for all the midfielders and awsome defenders who could be the mvps for there teams.and or teams that pad stats against weak early schedule and than cant score come sectional time.

[newarkformerplayer]

why do we all just look at stats for player of the year .so you have to score goals to be one of the best . that really is unforunate for all the midfielders and awsome defenders who could be the mvps for there teams.and or teams that pad stats against weak early schedule and than cant score come sectional time.

Well if we went to best defenders in league Lauer must be in conversation. Also Blazey from Pal Mac, and the sweeper from Mynderse. This league usually takes the best player from the best team so look for it to be either a Pal Mac girl or Hughes. Also I think Toth won at least once from defense.

[flhoops]

Sometimes players don't put up great stats because the opponents entire defense is geared to stop them. Kind of like playing a "box + 1" defense in basketball, you can stop one player if you really want to, but give up opportunities for other players. . Coaches know who they have to gameplan the most against & they are the ones voting for POY. I don't really think they pay that much attention to "stats', they know who the best players are by preparing to & playing against them.

[315-4-life]

Mynderse goalie - no way. If anyone on Mynderse wins it will be Verkey. I can't see Hughes get it especially the way Midlakes is finishing up. I cant see a player winning the award two years in a row when they are less of a force than the year before. Not sure there is a Player of the year in this league. Still a week to go.

[lakers13]

the only goalies good enough to be poy would be in monroe county these goalies can be reguarded as decent but check out mc goalies and its a different level

[315-4-life]

the only goalies good enough to be poy would be in monroe county these goalies can be reguarded as decent but check out mc goalies and its a different level

Who do you think will and who do you think should get it?

[lakers13]

Who do you think will and who do you think should get it?

best four players in league not in order of prefrence.hughes may ,gagliano griffith and why. hughes wins alot of fifty fifty balls and team trys to kick ball to her for that reason i dont care about stats.gagliano carries the load for scoring the goals dont make me like her its the job.may does the pressuring and chasing and can be involved both sides of ball.griffith by far best defender and draws other teams toughest offensive asignment plus she is the person who runs the offense .there is nobody else to consider i dont think

[315-4-life]

best four players in league not in order of prefrence.hughes may ,gagliano griffith and why. hughes wins alot of fifty fifty balls and team trys to kick ball to her for that reason i dont care about stats.gagliano carries the load for scoring the goals dont make me like her its the job.may does the pressuring and chasing and can be involved both sides of ball.griffith by far best defender and draws other teams toughest offensive asignment plus she is the person who runs the offense .there is nobody else to consider i dont think

Lauer? or verkey? or someone from back 5 of Wayne?

[lakers13]

Lauer? or verkey? or someone from back 5 of Wayne?

laur is not with these girls skill wise does not put enough into it off season great athlete but hustle cant get this award complete players are what you look for.however she is the best player on her team verkey is good but racking up stats against rj bloomfield gananda and north rose doesnt do it plus i hate stats anyway

[g-man]

how about the west and central??

[lakers13]

Sometimes players don't put up great stats because the opponents entire defense is geared to stop them. Kind of like playing a "box + 1" defense in basketball, you can stop one player if you really want to, but give up opportunities for other players. . Coaches know who they have to gameplan the most against & they are the ones voting for POY. I don't really think they pay that much attention to "stats', they know who the best players are by preparing to & playing against them.

someone should have told michael jordan this

[flhoops]

someone should have told michael jordan this

....girls soccer in the Finger Lakes is not comparable to the NBA. The higher the level of skill of the other players, the harder it is to key on any one player. Jordan not only had great stats but also made his teammates better. If they doubled him he found a teammate for a layup. This is not comparable to "doubling" a high school girl player in soccer.

[lakers13]

....girls soccer in the Finger Lakes is not comparable to the NBA. The higher the level of skill of the other players, the harder it is to key on any one player. Jordan not only had great stats but also made his teammates better. If they doubled him he found a teammate for a layup. This is not comparable to "doubling" a high school girl player in soccer.

you just made my point by saying he made others around him better.thats what the best players do in certain sports and soccer is one where you can do something and make a teamate look great.when you accomplish this others on your team get known.not just the star player.

[flhoops]

you just made my point by saying he made others around him better.thats what the best players do in certain sports and soccer is one where you can do something and make a teamate look great.when you accomplish this others on your team get known.not just the star player.

....my original post says this, which seems to also be your point, I don't then understand the meaning of your "someone should have told michael jordan this " post?

[lakers13]

....my original post says this, which seems to also be your point, I don't then understand the meaning of your "someone should have told michael jordan this " post?

in other words even though teams geared to stop him he was still unstoppable thus mvp or poy in this case

[flhoops]

in other words even though teams geared to stop him he was still unstoppable thus mvp or poy in this case

...yes but in college where they could play zones & box + 1"s he "only" averaged 17.7 pts. per game for his career....which supports my point:) He was named POY in 1983-1984 even though many more players had better "stats" than he did.

[lakers13]

...yes but in college where they could play zones & box + 1"s he "only" averaged 17.7 pts. per game for his career....which supports my point:) He was named POY in 1983-1984 even though many more players had better "stats" than he did.

thats what ive been saying all along its not about stats against weak opponants.big games you score the big shot you dont dissapear when most needed.no matter the strategy against your team

[g-man]

so lets actually hear who people would vote as their player of the year for east, west, and central at this point.

[315-4-life]

East - Either Kane from Wayne or Hughes from Midlakes

Central - Browne from Whitman

West - Vonhamman Romulus

[315-4-life]

best four players in league not in order of prefrence.hughes may ,gagliano griffith and why. hughes wins alot of fifty fifty balls and team trys to kick ball to her for that reason i dont care about stats.gagliano carries the load for scoring the goals dont make me like her its the job.may does the pressuring and chasing and can be involved both sides of ball.griffith by far best defender and draws other teams toughest offensive asignment plus she is the person who runs the offense .there is nobody else to consider i dont think

Ok I know Im anti Newark, but this is a Pal Mac homer for sure.

you listed 3 PM girls - who are all 1st team girls, but not Player of the year. To me Top 6 players in this league are
1. Hughes - off year I dont think she should get award
2. Kane - without her Wayne would be getting blown out (now they have stepped up)
3. Lauer - She is the best player on that team at every spot.
4. May - Great field vision
5. Gagliano - Super fast - inconsistent great against bad teams
6. Verkey - inconsitent which makes it tough for her to be player of the year.

Hughes is by far the best player in this league, but has not been consistent. If they win the league she will win it.

Kane and Lauer are the most rock solid players in this league. Everyday they come to play.

May will win the award because there is no way they are giving it to a player on last place teams.

[Midlakessoccer123]

I agree with you, 315.

Hughes is an outstanding player, however, this has not been the best year for her. She is fully there about half the games. That's is not enough to win. This award is for who is the best player...not who could potentially be the best player. Also easily frustrated which brings in the inconsistency.

Kane is excellent. She plays hard every single game. She has made many spectacular, game winning saves. Her only problem this year was a couple minor mental mistakes, such as the one in the midlakes game. But one mistake to take the award away from her? Come on.. She kept wayne in almost every game this year. Also great sportsmanship from what I've heard.

I am impressed with Lauer this year. She does come to every game ready to play but her skill is not as high as Hughes and Kane.

May, gagliano, verkey-they're all fast but not as high in level as the players above.

My guess is either Hughes or Kane

[newarkformerplayer]

I doubt coach will nominate Lauer, just because he wouldn/t believe a last place team should have the Player of the Year. How does this voting work anyway. If everyone nominates, wouldn't they all get one vote? Seems like there should be some other way.

[newarkformerplayer]

I agree with you, 315.

Hughes is an outstanding player, however, this has not been the best year for her. She is fully there about half the games. That's is not enough to win. This award is for who is the best player...not who could potentially be the best player. Also easily frustrated which brings in the inconsistency.

Kane is excellent. She plays hard every single game. She has made many spectacular, game winning saves. Her only problem this year was a couple minor mental mistakes, such as the one in the midlakes game. But one mistake to take the award away from her? Come on.. She kept wayne in almost every game this year. Also great sportsmanship from what I've heard.

I am impressed with Lauer this year. She does come to every game ready to play but her skill is not as high as Hughes and Kane.

May, gagliano, verkey-they're all fast but not as high in level as the players above.

My guess is either Hughes or Kane

From what I heard Lauer did pretty well on Hughes last night. Even in the strong wind.

[315-4-life]

I doubt coach will nominate Lauer, just because he wouldn/t believe a last place team should have the Player of the Year. How does this voting work anyway. If everyone nominates, wouldn't they all get one vote? Seems like there should be some other way.

Saw the Newark game on TV last night. Lauer was the best player on the field last night. Newarks other front runners should have buried Pal Mac early in the game. Pal Mac didnt seem to be able to control play. Im not sure if field conditions were a lot worse than you could see on TV. Also reffing of this game was pretty bad. Pal Mac had the next best 4 players in number 4, 5, 15, and 6. I just like the way Lauer plays the game. It is too bad for her she didn't live one town over.

[315-4-life]

So what would league do if so many kids are nominated?

[lakers13]

after watching season wind down the stretch pal mac girls did not step up . they had a chance to win this award but alll said and done hughes should get it now. i think coaches can nominate one player and then they cannot vote for their own player in the end

[315-4-life]

I am sure it has been chosen already but who won player of the year.

[lakers13]

I am sure it has been chosen already but who won player of the year.

someone on pal mac

[315-4-life]

someone on pal mac

Must be May. Good choice. Hughes must not be happy.

[flhoops]

Must be May. Good choice. Hughes must not be happy.

...or her parents. From what I hear her and her parents attitude late in the season was a big factor in the coaches not voting her POY.