Classiest programs in Section V

[CoachJ]

Some of the threads have started to get a little negative. What do you think are some of the classiest football programs in Section V?

[CARL]

I think Attica has always been a class act. The players have always stayed out of trouble, and played cleanly. This was true under Coach Leyden and now under Coach Cusmano.

[BATHFAN]

Some of the threads have started to get a little negative. What do you think are some of the classiest football programs in Section V?


It's been a while since we played them but I always thought Bolivar was a very classy program all the way from the players to the fans.

[Pinnum]

Big 30 Committee members comments from the Olean Times Herald:

B-R also showed class in sportsmanship.

"Late in the game things got a little testy as Clyde-Savannah players lost their composure and threw some punches at the B-R players, all of whom tried to stay away and not get involved," an observer said. "On one play, a Clyde-Savannah player was hurt and lying on the ground many yards behind the play. Three B-R players stood around him. It looked as though one Wolverine was actually trying to tend to the injured player. Eventually all three players extended their arms and helped this player to his feet. It was certainly a very gracious act of sportsmanship that is not seen enough in high school sports these days. I was very impressed by that class act on the field."

http://oleantimesherald.com/articles/2007/10/23/sports/doc471e4b52130f1497159718.txt

[hardcorefan]

oakfield is one of the best teams that shows sportsmenship

[hilly]

oakfield is one of the best teams that shows sportsmenship



/this
//pembroke and notre dame are both classy too,.

[footballman]

What is the definition of classy? Oakfield won the sportsmanship this year for class C, and in the past five years if I'm not mistaken has won it three times.

[1500chevy454]

What is the definition of classy? Oakfield won the sportsmanship this year for class C, and in the past five years if I'm not mistaken has won it three times.

They did win the award, but i do specifically remember the OA games being the dirtiest and most unsportsmanlike games when i played.

[footballman]

What year did you play because If I saw 3 unsportsmanlike penalties in the last five years thats pretty good. Also the refs vote for this award. Wouldn't you think they would see some of the unfair play by OA. Also I have seen the coaches of OA pull players out for this kind of behavior. How many coaches do that, not many. Who did you play for maybe I have a opinion of your team and its play.

[easyrsaidthandone]

Yes, the referees do vote for Sportsmanship and from what I know OA gives the officials the best submarine sandwiches in the lockeroom after the game. Ive watched plenty of football and OA is just as cheap as many of the other teams Ive watched, they must get their meat at the right deli....

[hardcorefan]

what are you kidding me there coach is all about sortsmenship. He will sit a kid if he does something like that

[TurnTwo]

what are you kidding me there coach is all about sortsmenship. He will sit a kid if he does something like that

Just ask Tim Smith.

[footballman]

Yea, ask Tim Smith how many coaches will not let one of there best or best players back on the team for the stunt against Attica. Let me know what team? Because I have seen teams let there best players back for worse things. Now what are you teaching the kid that is was ok and winning is more important than teaching right from wrong.

[TurnTwo]

Yea, ask Tim Smith how many coaches will not let one of there best or best players back on the team for the stunt against Attica. Let me know what team? Because I have seen teams let there best players back for worse things. Now what are you teaching the kid that is was ok and winning is more important than teaching right from wrong.

Absolutely. Dowd is a class act. I feel Kehlenbeck was an upgrade anyway. That kid is an outstanding athlete.

[easyrsaidthandone]

what are you kidding me there coach is all about sortsmenship. He will sit a kid if he does something like that

Maybe so, but the subs are good in OA.

[rockandroll34]

Hornell gets my vote as the classiest program in Section 5.
they showed how classy they were the other day when they cheered for bath against geneva.
it takes a really classy program to design something like that.

[BathRamsFan]

PLEASE DO!!! I apologize to everyone for making what was supposed to be just a tongue in cheek jab. Good lord this has gotten out of control. I have many friends from Hornell from working there for 4 years. we all know the MAJORITY of the people there are good people, and we all know that the MAJORITY of Bath people are great people too. THE END

[Prouddad59]

Surprised nobody has nominated Geneva for the classiest team. From what I've seen they seem to be a fairly clean hard hitting team. That shows a lot of good sportsmanship. My co-workers tell me Dave Whitcomb doesn't put up with any nonsense good for him. UHHH I hear the boss coming-gotta go. Good Luck to all teams this weekend...

[footballman]

Hey easier said than done those subs also used to be in Elba also.......................

[lbcoach45]

LeRoy gets my vote. Whitman's only played them twice, both times they were some of the hardest hitting kids I've seen and showed amazing sportmanship in their win and loss. I didn't see anything dirty or even borderline from them. Just good, hard hitting football both times.

[footballman]

What's classy about blowing teams out by half and leaving your starters in. Going for two just to make 50 pts in the second half. classy has nothing to do with how hard a team hits. I FEEL THERE KIDS ARE CLASSY BUT CERTAIN situations that the coaches choose,does not in any way help programs that are struggling. This is my opinion and this is what I believe

[fivealive]

Guess what...these blowouts occur mainly because of overmatched opponents with little to no heart or discipline. Going for 2 to make 50 is not the goal. At that point, the 2nd teamers are in and they are going to let the stringbean QB backup try to make 3 yards somehow instead of trotting the first team PAT squad out there and having the defense CHEAP SHOT the kicker under the guise of playing oh so hard. Tell that same FIRST TEAM opponent that is getting whipped to try just as hard and stop a 2nd team QB that wants to more than just hand off the ball to the 2nd and 3rd team backs. Stop the gosh darn TD by the reserves with your FIRST TEAMERS and the whole point of 2-point PATs is moot!

[conors72]

Guess what...these blowouts occur mainly because of overmatched opponents with little to no heart or discipline. Going for 2 to make 50 is not the goal. At that point, the 2nd teamers are in and they are going to let the stringbean QB backup try to make 3 yards somehow instead of trotting the first team PAT squad out there and having the defense CHEAP SHOT the kicker under the guise of playing oh so hard. Tell that same FIRST TEAM opponent that is getting whipped to try just as hard and stop a 2nd team QB that wants to more than just hand off the ball to the 2nd and 3rd team backs. Stop the gosh darn TD by the reserves with your FIRST TEAMERS and the whole point of 2-point PATs is moot!

huhhh?

[lbcoach45]

What's classy about blowing teams out by half and leaving your starters in. Going for two just to make 50 pts in the second half. classy has nothing to do with how hard a team hits. I FEEL THERE KIDS ARE CLASSY BUT CERTAIN situations that the coaches choose,does not in any way help programs that are struggling. This is my opinion and this is what I believe

We've played them twice and both times they were the classiest kids we have played, in victory and defeat. If that doesn't match up to your experience with them, OK. It's my opinion and that is based on my experience coaching against them. The hard hitting part was a reflection on the fact that they play good football and that's it. They don't taunt, they don't talk back to the refs, they don't take cheap shots. They might beat up on some teams, but those scores could all be a lot worse. Again, just my opinion based on a small amount of experience.

[footballman]

I know for a fact that when leroy scored the two pt conv. it was not a second teamer. Even the guys on the radio commented on the reason for getting 50 pts. you have your opinion but your post is a little out there.

[Former GR Leaguer]

I know for a fact that when leroy scored the two pt conv. it was not a second teamer. Even the guys on the radio commented on the reason for getting 50 pts. you have your opinion but your post is a little out there.

Geez, God forbid anybody have an opinion that differs from yours.

Here's mine: LeRoy is still playing and Oakfield isn't.

[footballman]

That's why it is a opinion everybody thinks different I just threw the fact out to show this person that certain blowouts are not always second teamers. And because I root for OA has nothing to do with this. I am rooting for all section V teams and I think Leroy has a great shot. Bishop Ludden is tough but I don't think they can play with Leroy. And you understand that last post even conors72 is confused.

[Former GR Leaguer]

That's why it is a opinion everybody thinks different I just threw the fact out to show this person that certain blowouts are not always second teamers. And because I root for OA has nothing to do with this. I am rooting for all section V teams and I think Leroy has a great shot. Bishop Ludden is tough but I don't think they can play with Leroy. And you understand that last post even conors72 is confused.

No problem, it just seemed in prior posts you were quick to shoot down anyone who had a different opinion than you. When that guy questioned Oakfield's class at the beginning of this thread, your reply was "Who did you play for maybe I have a opinion of your team and its play". Just seemed a little defensive, that's all. No hard feelings.

I'd have to put my votes towards LeRoy, Elba, and for the "back in the day" vote for when I was in school, Warsaw.

[bathtime]

Hornell gets my vote as the classiest program in Section 5.
they showed how classy they were the other day when they cheered for bath against geneva.
it takes a really classy program to design something like that.

are you serious, Hornell was leading Geneva's chant against bath. Yeah they are real classy. Come on, Hornell will never be classy and they along with Bath will never cheer for each other no matter what.

[boobiemiles]

are you serious, Hornell was leading Geneva's chant against bath. Yeah they are real classy. Come on, Hornell will never be classy and they along with Bath will never cheer for each other no matter what.
i think rockandroll34 was being sarcastic but i'm not sure

[BombeRLV56]

i dont think that every team is perfect cause that impossible in this sport haha. But in the situations where a teams sportsmanship is tested i think that it is the captons jobs to break it up or tell their teammate to not be stupid. Sense EAST ROCHESTER has not been talked about their great sportsmanship i will bring them up. The reason is... is because thats one of the main things coach Greco teaches us. The refs have complemented me and other teammates telling us thank u for helping a kid up after the tackle was made. No matter how bad ur losing or winning its not right to treat the other team without respect. Thats all i gotta say haha.

[conors72]

okay. we lost to leroy, and it was a hard fought game by both sides- but really, they were probably the classiest team we played all year.

[Footballfan65]

I dont know about now, but a few years ago when Bath played ER at Fauver there were a few players that showed no class. But then again those kids had been talked about all year about their class. Thats also the only year Ive ever heard anything bad about kids on ER. Probably just a 1 year fluke.

[footballman]

When OA played ER there was a linebacker who was a great player but also the cheapest I have seen in along time. He had one or two unsportsmanlike penalties in that game and was warned about his language by the refs. The refs said he would be kicked out if they heard his mouth. This same guy almost got kicked out of the Pal-Mac game for unsportsmanlike penalties. If coach Greco teaches sportsmanship why does this kid stay in the game. Because winning is more important than teaching this kid a lesson. Also when a team wins most or all of the time by big margins teams show more sportsmanship. There is less adversity for a player when they are winning and not in a dog fight. That's probably why know one has talked about ER. Why don't you ask coach Greco about a game about 5 or 6 years ago when the cops had to be called after a game because him and his coaching staff wanting to fight the other teams coaches after the game. I mean people get pissed over games and losses but that kind of behavior is not sportsmanship. This is only my opinion on sportsmanship.

[BogeyPro]

First post & it's a bit wordy.

The following comments are taken from a letter to Notre Dame that was written by the visiting Head Coach of the Fillmore Boy's Basketball team. Yea,
I know this is the football forum, but I saw similar displays of sportsmanship on the football field over the last 4 years. Wish I had $1 for everytime I saw an ND player extend a hand to help an opposing player to his feet, and yes I saw opposing players do the same but not with the same frequency.

The entire text can be found on page 16 of the following ND newsletter if anyone cares to read the letter: http://www.ndhsbatavia.com/may2007.pdf

"As a coach at every level for over twenty years, I’m left feeling just a tad bitter. This last February 24 at a boys’ sectional basketball game at Notre Dame of Batavia High School, there was a glimmer of hope for true sportsmanship.

It was not an easy night for perennial Section V basketball powerhouse Notre Dame. The heavy favorite as the #2 seed, Coach Rapone and his minions were in a dogfight whistle-to-whistle with the #7 seed upstarts Fillmore.
Going into the game at an inauspicious 13-8, Fillmore seemed to pose little threat to the Irish. Each quarter throughout the game ended with the score nearly tied, and a late comeback in the late minutes by Notre Dame was
thwarted only by a few missed lay-ups and plain bad luck. In the packed house with every call and basket eliciting a barrage of cheers or groans from one half of the gym or the other, the game offered the best that sport has to offer, but also represented the most fertile ground for whining, cheap shots, and overall bad conduct.

On this night, however, such was not the case. Despite the intensity of the game, despite the clear and understandable disappointment of the home town faithful, this was a night to rejoice in the best in human nature. As
the game ended with Notre Dame on the short end of a 43-38 score, the stunned and disoriented players and coaches graciously shook the Fillmore players’ hands and offered sincere good luck wishes in the next round. I was
impressed with the sadly uncharacteristic show of good manners. What happened next, though, left this marginally cynical coach thinking that there is hope for the redemption of sport.

After at least a half an hour showering and getting our things together in the basement, we climbed the stairs to be greeted by a gauntlet of parents offering hugs and congratulations. The memorable part, though, was the fact that many of the most generous and joyful supporters were Notre Dame parents and faculty members. A large entourage of the home losing team had remained behind to offer support and warm wishes to the visitor winning
team. I can never remember a more gracious show of genuine, sincere sportsmanship."

I was there, I was one of the parents, and I was proud of my daughter, her team, and her school.

[footballman]

And thats what it is all about. Not if you win or lose a game its the memories for these parents and players to look back on. Thats why sports are the greatest thing for kids, to get them ready for there long life ahead. And the memories will be there forever.......

[BombeRLV56]

When OA played ER there was a linebacker who was a great player but also the cheapest I have seen in along time. He had one or two unsportsmanlike penalties in that game and was warned about his language by the refs. The refs said he would be kicked out if they heard his mouth. This same guy almost got kicked out of the Pal-Mac game for unsportsmanlike penalties. If coach Greco teaches sportsmanship why does this kid stay in the game. Because winning is more important than teaching this kid a lesson. Also when a team wins most or all of the time by big margins teams show more sportsmanship. There is less adversity for a player when they are winning and not in a dog fight. That's probably why know one has talked about ER. Why don't you ask coach Greco about a game about 5 or 6 years ago when the cops had to be called after a game because him and his coaching staff wanting to fight the other teams coaches after the game. I mean people get pissed over games and losses but that kind of behavior is not sportsmanship. This is only my opinion on sportsmanship.

ok yeah i will give u that. i know exactley what u r talking about. But before i say why he did that against OA i will tell u that he did not almost get kicked out of the Pal-Mac game not even close. We were very respectful to sean and his team. But to call us not classy is wrong. Everyone says how OA is classy well BULL $h!t. The reason that kid almost got kicked out was because after he got the tackle somebody from OA decided to grab his BALLS and squeez them under the pile and the ref was standing right there watching the kid do it after the play. Now maybe the ref really didnt see it if he didnt then thats fine. But now after hearing the full story dont lie to me and say that u wouldnt get angry and lose your classy state of mind after that was done to u. And another thing i dont care what happened 6 years ago im talking about the 07-08 bomber team not anyone else.

[UNCTarheels]

Thank you for posting that, It was really nice of Coach Mullen to write that and make it public knowledge the type of sportsmanship Notre-Dame and Coach Rapone showed that night. And it was nice of you to share that with the public on this website...................

[BogeyPro]

thanks for your kind words UNCTarHeels. Like I said, I was incredibly proud that night while at the same time feeling really disappointed for my team but I'm proud to share the story & Coach Mullen's words.

Some may think that it's old-school, but sportsmanship will never go out of style.

[footballman]

ok yeah i will give u that. i know exactley what u r talking about. But before i say why he did that against OA i will tell u that he did not almost get kicked out of the Pal-Mac game not even close. We were very respectful to sean and his team. But to call us not classy is wrong. Everyone says how OA is classy well BULL $h!t. The reason that kid almost got kicked out was because after he got the tackle somebody from OA decided to grab his BALLS and squeez them under the pile and the ref was standing right there watching the kid do it after the play. Now maybe the ref really didnt see it if he didnt then thats fine. But now after hearing the full story dont lie to me and say that u wouldnt get angry and lose your classy state of mind after that was done to u. And another thing i dont care what happened 6 years ago im talking about the 07-08 bomber team not anyone else.

The grabbing of the privates is pretty bad and if the kid who did it was caught and told to the OA coaches he would of been pulled from the game. Second how many unsportsmanlike penalties does it take for a kid to be benched. Now maybe the PAl-MAc game he almost did not get kicked out of the game but how many unsporstsmanship like penalties did he have in that game. You should care what your coaches did in the past because you practice what you preach. Also not once in my message did I say ER was not classy. I talked about sportsmanship. I don't remember the last time section V gave out a classy award. Every team has a few bad apples and you try to lead them in the right direction OA had a couple of them this year and I think they are gone this year and back to building a program.

[BombeRLV56]

The grabbing of the privates is pretty bad and if the kid who did it was caught and told to the OA coaches he would of been pulled from the game. Second how many unsportsmanlike penalties does it take for a kid to be benched. Now maybe the PAl-MAc game he almost did not get kicked out of the game but how many unsporstsmanship like penalties did he have in that game. You should care what your coaches did in the past because you practice what you preach. Also not once in my message did I say ER was not classy. I talked about sportsmanship. I don't remember the last time section V gave out a classy award. Every team has a few bad apples and you try to lead them in the right direction OA had a couple of them this year and I think they are gone this year and back to building a program.

he did not have any unsportsmanlike penalties i have no clue what ur talking about. he only had a few off side penalties and then he started getting mad and he sat for the rest of the series. And i would care about what my coaches did in the past if it effected our team now But it doesnt, peolple change and i believe they did. i understand what u r trying to say but as a captain of my team its my job to keep the order on that feild and i personaly beleive that i did for the most part.

[footballman]

he did not have any unsportsmanlike penalties i have no clue what ur talking about. he only had a few off side penalties and then he started getting mad and he sat for the rest of the series. And i would care about what my coaches did in the past if it effected our team now But it doesnt, peolple change and i believe they did. i understand what u r trying to say but as a captain of my team its my job to keep the order on that feild and i personaly beleive that i did for the most part.

Well said, I think we both made our points and stated our opinions. Good luck in the future on whatever you do.

[Giles]

Just thought Coach Greco's ER/Gananda program should resurrect this thread.

[BombeRLV56]

Just thought Coach Greco's ER/Gananda program should resurrect this thread.

......Why?

[Giles]

......Why?

Umm cuz of the Bath game

[soccerstud11]

What's classy about blowing teams out by half and leaving your starters in. Going for two just to make 50 pts in the second half. classy has nothing to do with how hard a team hits. I FEEL THERE KIDS ARE CLASSY BUT CERTAIN situations that the coaches choose,does not in any way help programs that are struggling. This is my opinion and this is what I believe

Its not LeRoy's fault that the teams they play are not good. They may be up by 50 at half but they always put in their 2nd and 3rd stringers. I don't see how that isn't classy. There are some teams who would leave their first stringers in until the end of the third quarter. I also have to agree that LeRoy has a very classy program.

Also, even if they are up by a lot they do not shove it in the other teams face by taunting or anything. They just keep playing football.

[bigdogunlimited]

Livonia needs to be in the mix, there have been several times I have witnessed the the team leaders diffuse bad situations duing a game. This I have found to be a direct result of the leadership example. Coach G usually very reserved on the sidelines and with the few exceptions nothing but a gentleman to his team, the opponent, officals and fans. As a result his team is very much a reflection of him. A classy team and school.

[soccerstud11]

Livonia needs to be in the mix, there have been several times I have witnessed the the team leaders diffuse bad situations duing a game. This I have found to be a direct result of the leadership example. Coach G usually very reserved on the sidelines and with the few exceptions nothing but a gentleman to his team, the opponent, officals and fans. As a result his team is very much a reflection of him. A classy team and school.

Didn't the Livonia Batavia game a couple years ago end early because of too many unsportsmanlike penalties? Was Livonia a part of that or was it just Batavia commiting the penalties?

[bigdogunlimited]

Everyone there and every ref involved will tell you it was Batavia...and it was not addressed by their coach. Teams can disagree with calls but when you take the cheap shots and keep getting called something is wrong. Coach G was not involved and his team did just as any team should, they acted respectful kept playing hard and let the officals run the game. In no way was Livonia in the wrong it was a long frustrating season for Batavia and the leadership did nothing to stop the problem if fact encouraged it.

[Coach6423]

Didn't the Livonia Batavia game a couple years ago end early because of too many unsportsmanlike penalties? Was Livonia a part of that or was it just Batavia commiting the penalties?

I think you are thinking of Waterloo Batavia sectional game from 1996. Game was called with just under 3 minutes to play because Batavia lost their minds. Something like 7 unsportsmanlike in between 1 play....Batavia players throwing the officials flags. Pretty much cost that coach his job.

[boobiemiles]

I think you are thinking of Waterloo Batavia sectional game from 1996. Game was called with just under 3 minutes to play because Batavia lost their minds. Something like 7 unsportsmanlike in between 1 play....Batavia players throwing the officials flags. Pretty much cost that coach his job.
In the last game of last year, the Batavia-Livonia game was called early because of too many unsportsmanlike penalties.


I'm pretty sure that's what he's talking about

[coachstew]

Since most of us are voting for our own schools:). I'll vote for mine, Dundee.

Coach Eddie Allen is one of the most humble, quiet men I've ever known. I'd have to say he is one of the people kids can look to as a true leader as what you want to be on the field and off. You don't hear of kids doing things on the field that would be unsportsmanlike. As evidence though I'd point to the first two games of this season. Dundee so far has beaten two teams by a combined 95 to 13. A lot of coaches use that game to pad a star players stats. Dundee's best player, Steven Webb, has a total of ten carries in two games this season. Starters are on the bench by halftime.

The ohter thing I'd point out about Coach Allen is even when things were not as wonderful in the football program as they are now. Coach never ran from it, he continue to embody the same ideas he does now. His kids at that time still carried themself with the highest of dignity.

[soccerstud11]

In the last game of last year, the Batavia-Livonia game was called early because of too many unsportsmanlike penalties.


I'm pretty sure that's what he's talking about

Correct you are boobie.

[bcherry8]

Correct you are boobie.
Mr. Hillabush was pretty vocal about that game if my memory serves me correctly.

[BombeRLV56]

Umm cuz of the Bath game

What about it. He didnt want to waste a day of practice to drive all that way for a team who is to stubborn to admit they got beat. I would have done the same thing if they didnt at least meet at a half way point between the 2 areas.

I thought he handled it with class.....so where are you goin with this

[bath#1]

What about it. He didnt want to waste a day of practice to drive all that way for a team who is to stubborn to admit they got beat. I would have done the same thing if they didnt at least meet at a half way point between the 2 areas.

I thought he handled it with class.....so where are you goin with this

We dont need to get on the subject of bath-er game. Dont stir the pot man

[boobiemiles]

This thread hasn't been going anywhere from the start, and restarting it doesn't do any good either.

The end.

[TurnTwo]

Yeah, closed.