best GR players

[T'emUP]

who is the best player in the GR?

[section5fan]

There was just a thread on this, under "Sectional Champions" in the 2007-2008 season thread.

[T'emUP]

people were complaining that it was not the place for it. so id like to see views on it in its own thread because i feel it was a good topic

[section5fan]

Alright, fair enough... Although the Davis/Wolfey saga may continue hear.

Those two are obviously two of the best... I like Bocchichio and Francis at ND and Woodworth at Elba as well.

[T'emUP]

i feel that b15o, francis and woodworth are among the top 10 but not the best. they are not as dynamic as the other 2. davis is a great player who can shoot well. but in my opinon wolfley is by far the best, most complete, or whatever you want him to be. he can flat out take over a game and lead his team to victory. last year was a growing year for the team which is why they didnt win as many games as the others, his supproting cast is getting there. but anyways wolfley gets the job done and he'll continue to do so.

[section5fan]

...So who's the remaining players in your top 10...

[hilly]

I'm going with Wolfley.
Davis has a ton of game, but Wolfley has size and handles the ball like a 2. He might be the best talent the GR has seen since Mike McGee.

[boobiemiles]

wolfley's great. and there's not going to be much competition for this title until february when davis comes back, and wolf will already have the mvp locked up

[T'emUP]

1. wolfley (Attica)
2. davis (OA)
3. williams (W.C.)
4. woodworth (Elba)
5. francis (ND)
... thats my top 5.
i agree with hilly. wolfley may be the greatest talent the GR has ever seen. he is definately one of the best players in section 5.
the way i see it, even if davis was healthy and playing, as good as he is i wouldnt see him winning the player of the year. hes just that good

[boobiemiles]

1. wolfley (Attica)
2. davis (OA)
3. williams (W.C.)
4. woodworth (Elba)
5. francis (ND)
... thats my top 5.
i agree with hilly. wolfley may be the greatest talent the GR has ever seen. he is definately one of the best players in section 5.
the way i see it, even if davis was healthy and playing, as good as he is i wouldnt see him winning the player of the year. hes just that good

I agree with everything. except i would put Bocchichio at 5, francis at 6, and hoover at 7

[OldSchool78]

I have seen all of the above mentioned players play. They are all nice players, but please do not call them the best in Section V. Wolfley would not be the star he is if he played in Monroe County. He would be a complimentary player. Monroe County is dotted with D1 prospects. When was the last player to go D1 out of the GR league?

Keep it in perspective. In my circle of basketball observers, many with 25-30 years of experience, are of the opinion that GR is one of the weakest leagues in all of Section V.

[boobiemiles]

I have seen all of the above mentioned players play. They are all nice players, but please do not call them the best in Section V. Wolfley would not be the star he is if he played in Monroe County. He would be a complimentary player. Monroe County is dotted with D1 prospects. When was the last player to go D1 out of the GR league?

Keep it in perspective. In my circle of basketball observers, many with 25-30 years of experience, are of the opinion that GR is one of the weakest leagues in all of Section V.
Monroe county is dotted with D1 prospects, meaning one or two. And that may be because of the 20 schools involved in Monroe. Also, the schools in Monroe are AAA, AA, A, BB, and B schools. They are city schools with city kids playing in them. the smallest school in Monroe is Greece Odyssey. and they would be the second biggest team in the GR. How many players on Odyssey have half as much talent as wolfley. or any other GR player. The next smallest school is Batavia, with 150 more students than Attica. The Monroe league is undoubtedly better. But the talent pool in Monroe is overwhelming to that of GR. GR has 11 schools in it. Monroe has almost double that. Also, the top 5 largest GR schools would still not add up to the size of Fairport. The monroe county is comprised of a greater number of schools than the GR, and is the schools bigger than those of the GR. Monroe's schools have city kids whose lives are basketball, while the GR is all about football and baseball. Basketball in GR is secondary, and players like wolfley and davis are still competing with those in monroe

[TurnTwo]

I have seen all of the above mentioned players play. They are all nice players, but please do not call them the best in Section V. Wolfley would not be the star he is if he played in Monroe County. He would be a complimentary player. Monroe County is dotted with D1 prospects. When was the last player to go D1 out of the GR league?

Keep it in perspective. In my circle of basketball observers, many with 25-30 years of experience, are of the opinion that GR is one of the weakest leagues in all of Section V.

Have you ever officiated a game that Wolfley was playing in?

[TopShelf]

I have seen all of the above mentioned players play. They are all nice players, but please do not call them the best in Section V. Wolfley would not be the star he is if he played in Monroe County. He would be a complimentary player. Monroe County is dotted with D1 prospects. When was the last player to go D1 out of the GR league?

Keep it in perspective. In my circle of basketball observers, many with 25-30 years of experience, are of the opinion that GR is one of the weakest leagues in all of Section V.

I'm pretty sure Wolfley would be fine competiting in Monroe County. Also, the only time I've heard of Wolfley ever being a complimentary player is when he played AAU basketball with the likes of Johnny Flynn, whom by the way is a star freshman at Syracuse. Wolfey is one of the best talents in Section V period.

[boobiemiles]

I'm pretty sure Wolfley would be fine competiting in Monroe County. Also, the only time I've heard of Wolfley ever being a complimentary player is when he played AAU basketball with the likes of Johnny Flynn, whom by the way is a star freshman at Syracuse. Wolfey is one of the best talents in Section V period.
I agree.

[TurnTwo]

I'm pretty sure Wolfley would be fine competiting in Monroe County. Also, the only time I've heard of Wolfley ever being a complimentary player is when he played AAU basketball with the likes of Johnny Flynn, whom by the way is a star freshman at Syracuse. Wolfey is one of the best talents in Section V period.

Don't forget Mayo.

[T'emUP]

I have seen all of the above mentioned players play. They are all nice players, but please do not call them the best in Section V. Wolfley would not be the star he is if he played in Monroe County. He would be a complimentary player. Monroe County is dotted with D1 prospects. When was the last player to go D1 out of the GR league?

Keep it in perspective. In my circle of basketball observers, many with 25-30 years of experience, are of the opinion that GR is one of the weakest leagues in all of Section V.

derek wolfley will probably be going to a d-1 college at the years end. he has many scholarship offers and around 8 or so of them are divsion 1. how could you say something about a player you dont seem to have a clue about?
if wolfley were in monroe county his talent may shine more, same goes for davis but regardless where they play they are great players and tremendous athletes.
you arent giving some of the best players in this league credit they deserve.

[T'emUP]

Monroe county is dotted with D1 prospects, meaning one or two. And that may be because of the 20 schools involved in Monroe. Also, the schools in Monroe are AAA, AA, A, BB, and B schools. They are city schools with city kids playing in them. the smallest school in Monroe is Greece Odyssey. and they would be the second biggest team in the GR. How many players on Odyssey have half as much talent as wolfley. or any other GR player. The next smallest school is Batavia, with 150 more students than Attica. The Monroe league is undoubtedly better. But the talent pool in Monroe is overwhelming to that of GR. GR has 11 schools in it. Monroe has almost double that. Also, the top 5 largest GR schools would still not add up to the size of Fairport. The monroe county is comprised of a greater number of schools than the GR, and is the schools bigger than those of the GR. Monroe's schools have city kids whose lives are basketball, while the GR is all about football and baseball. Basketball in GR is secondary, and players like wolfley and davis are still competing with those in monroe
great post.

[easyrsaidthandone]

I have seen all of the above mentioned players play. They are all nice players, but please do not call them the best in Section V. Wolfley would not be the star he is if he played in Monroe County. He would be a complimentary player. Monroe County is dotted with D1 prospects. When was the last player to go D1 out of the GR league?

Keep it in perspective. In my circle of basketball observers, many with 25-30 years of experience, are of the opinion that GR is one of the weakest leagues in all of Section V.

There have been some great players to come out of the GR and play college ball.Schools like ND, Wheatland-Chili, OA, Elba and Attica have had some nice players in the last 10 years alone.(sorry if I left a school out) The schools are way smaller, and like in a previous post the pool of athletes is smaller, not to mention the fact that many of the better athletes play 2-3 sports and decide not to continue in Basketball..I consider your post a slap in the face to the players, coaches and fans of the GR.

[OldSchool78]

This is going nowhere. GR is a nice league, but lets be honest. If you think that some of the best players in Section V play in GR, you are all sadly mistaken. Aske any college coach. They rarely recruit in GR. There have been exceptions throughout the years, but overall, GR is one of the weaker leagues. I know they are small, I never said they weren't. Somebody said that Davis and Wolfley were in the top 10 players in Section V. I don't believe they are, especially Davis. Wolfley is twice the player of Davis. We will all have to wait until the Super 15 comes out in March.

[TurnTwo]

This is going nowhere. GR is a nice league, but lets be honest. If you think that some of the best players in Section V play in GR, you are all sadly mistaken. Aske any college coach. They rarely recruit in GR. There have been exceptions throughout the years, but overall, GR is one of the weaker leagues. I know they are small, I never said they weren't. Somebody said that Davis and Wolfley were in the top 10 players in Section V. I don't believe they are, especially Davis. Wolfley is twice the player of Davis. We will all have to wait until the Super 15 comes out in March.

Name your top ten.

[Berask]

Name your top ten.

you talking top ten of section v???

[section5fan]

This thread was never supposed to be about best players in Section V, just in the GR. I'm not going to waste my time looking back on the threads to see if that was written.

[rockandroll34]

It would have to be Section V cause the GR doesn't have 10 good players in it.

[OldSchool78]

They just aren't the ten best in Section V. I thinkif you took the ten best from GR, they would fall somewhere between 20 and 40 of the best in Section V

[ref301]

It would have to be Section V cause the GR doesn't have 10 good players in it.

On what are you basing your opinion? I see that your location is Rochester. Do you get to many GR games?

Look, this is the GR thread. The GR supporters like to talk about their league, which is competitive within itself. Go to an Elba/Notre Dame game (or anyone against Notre Dame) or an Attica/Alexander game and see the emotion and competiveness. As has been already hashed out, it's tough to compare the talent pool within the GR schools with what comes out of Monroe. These are basically all small schools with athletes that play 2 and 3 sports per year. Hell, even Derrick Wolfley played football this year. There are some very good players and some good teams today and historically. Whether the GR players make someone's Top 10 list in Section V or not is no reason to take a cheap shot.

[xxlvbball]

i'd have to put both nd kids above woodworth and williams. They played on a team last year that was absolutely stacked, and bochicchio still torched elba for 21 and w.c. for 17, while getting double digit rebonuding on both nights. No one in the league can guard francis man to man, and he has a solid jumper to go along with his speed.

[secvfan]

This thread was never supposed to be about best players in Section V, just in the GR. I'm not going to waste my time looking back on the threads to see if that was written.

I've been watching GR for the past 5 years and seen every kid in the GR this year. Here is my top ten in order;

1. Wolfley, a man among boys still needs to improve outside game

2. Davis, who all around game is sold, I never seen him post up before even though I think he could, it's a shame he out most of the season.

3. Williams, is much better player than ever one thinks, much better than Ian W., who defense is one not to be admired.

4. Josh Bender who did all last year for Alexander a solid defender and looks for his team mates and can shoot.Under rated last year and should have made all-stars, probably the best point guard in league with Zamibito in the mixed.

5. Biccochio (sorry for the spelling) good player also under rated player last year and this will be his year. Good defender some time a streaky shooter, but has first good step.

6. Francis, a solid defender and good player

7. Woodworth, who is good player but needs to improve on defense, is very lazy

8. Zambito, show great ability to get the basket and can shoot, but sometimes tries to make some thing out of nothing and creates dum mistakes in the open court.

9 and 10 spots is really up for grabs, there are tons of kids you could put there. A lot of talent in GR this year more in the past year in my opinion.

[T'emUP]

i agree with ref 301.... some of you must not come to many GR games because there are many good athletes in it. you like to "hate" on other leagues probably because you're from a different league or support a different one. some of you "haters" probably haven't seen wolfley, davis or other talented players play.
so before you say things about players you dont know about, you should get out more and not post anything about them until you do.

[OldSchool78]

I have seen them all play up close and personal. They are nice players, just not in the Top 10 players in Section V. That's all. Stop reading more into that statement. I don't have allegiences to any one player or league. I think I know basketball having been involved in it for 30 plus years. I know talent, Wolfley will play at the next level. He MIGHT be a mid-level D! prospect. If he isn't offered something by the November signing period, he may not get offered. Remember Andy Marchand???? Many people touted him as a D1 player and he ended up at Hilbert College. I have college coaches ask me what I think of certain players and Wolfley comes up once in a while and Davis is never asked about. Alot of college coaches in this area think that Francis has more upside. I know they think the world of the coaching he receives. They are of the opinion that Rapone does the best job of preparing his players for the next level based on the style of game that ND plays.

[Section5sportsguy]

I have seen them all play up close and personal. They are nice players, just not in the Top 10 players in Section V. That's all. Stop reading more into that statement. I don't have allegiences to any one player or league. I think I know basketball having been involved in it for 30 plus years. I know talent, Wolfley will play at the next level. He MIGHT be a mid-level D! prospect. If he isn't offered something by the November signing period, he may not get offered. Remember Andy Marchand???? Many people touted him as a D1 player and he ended up at Hilbert College. I have college coaches ask me what I think of certain players and Wolfley comes up once in a while and Davis is never asked about. Alot of college coaches in this area think that Francis has more upside. I know they think the world of the coaching he receives. They are of the opinion that Rapone does the best job of preparing his players for the next level based on the style of game that ND plays.

He already has over 8 D1 scholarship offers. You dont know you dont know.

[OldSchool78]

Congratulations to him. What schools have offered?

[V10baller]

I agree with everything. except i would put Bocchichio at 5, francis at 6, and hoover at 7


you cant put yourself in the top 5 Bocchichio

[Former GR Leaguer]

A couple of thoughts.......

I will admit, I have never seen Wolfley play, but he sounds like a tremendous talent. However, I don't know if I would call him the best player to ever come out of the GR as suggested earlier in this thread. There have been some great players to come out of the league in the last 15 years or so. Tom McCulley comes to mind immediately, and Andy Thurber, Mark Wadams, Corey Edwards, and Mike Magee all went on to score over 1,000 points in their college careers. The late Matt Luxon was also a very good player, as was Dan Carlson. And while I don't know what league Kendall played in during the 70's (GR or not?), Roosevelt Bouie certainly held his own. The thing with Wolfley is, he has had limited competition against someone his own size while playing league games. The one exception I can think of is the Halter kid from Kendall, and I believe Wolfley was too quick for him. Therefore, he should put the numbers he does. The true test will come during sectionals.

As for making the AGR 1st team, I believe Wolfley is going to have to lead Attica to at least the state semis in order to be considered. This isn't based on his talent, but more on the fact that the D&C focuses more on the city (where admittedly there is more talent) for its picks rather than the rest of Section V. However, if he does make the AGR 1st team without going to states (let alone winning sectionals), I will be the first to say I was wrong, guaranteed.

[T'emUP]

Congratulations to him. What schools have offered?

qunnipiac, UB, siena, marist, lafayette, loyola, iona, st. peters, robert morris to name some.
he has personally told me this. again, you didnt know about this and you said he "MIGHT" a mid level d. he will be a d-1 college player, period.

[section5fan]

I know for a fact that Wolfey was getting looked hard at Siena and UB last spring, but neither had offered him anything at that time. With that said, we don't decide who is D1 or not and only time will tell. Everyone is taking this stuff way too personal.

[xxlvbball]

you cant put yourself in the top 5 Bocchichio

boobiemiles is not bochiccio..who posted that?

[Former GR Leaguer]

Have any teams scrimmaged yet?

[GodHelpUs]

1. wolfley (Attica)
2. davis (OA)
3. williams (W.C.)
4. woodworth (Elba)
5. francis (ND)
... thats my top 5.
i agree with hilly. wolfley may be the greatest talent the GR has ever seen. he is definately one of the best players in section 5.
the way i see it, even if davis was healthy and playing, as good as he is i wouldnt see him winning the player of the year. hes just that good

1)Wolfley (attica)
2)Davis (oa)
3)Williams (W.C)
4)Wright (Pembroke)
5)Francis (N.D)

[BravesRTops]

John Gerber dropped a 20 spot last night in OA's victory over Northstar Christian. Start watching this kid because he can shoot the lights out

[SecVBallin]

1)Wolfley (attica)
2)Davis (oa)
3)Williams (W.C)
4)Wright (Pembroke)
5)Francis (N.D)

Francis is better than wright. Easily

[SUman1515]

Francis is better than wright. Easily

i agree

[sectionvcrazyfan]

John Gerber dropped a 20 spot last night in OA's victory over Northstar Christian. Start watching this kid because he can shoot the lights out

How about another kid on that team in Noah Seward who had 20 rebounds. Can these two carry the team with Davis out and make them even more dangerous when Davis returns?

[boobiemiles]

How about another kid on that team in Noah Seward who had 20 rebounds. Can these two carry the team with Davis out and make them even more dangerous when Davis returns?
yes. combined they had 33 rebounds, and seward is playing like a beast down low, where gerber can hit just about any shot in the gym

[BravesRTops]

How about another kid on that team in Noah Seward who had 20 rebounds. Can these two carry the team with Davis out and make them even more dangerous when Davis returns?
yes they can and toss in all tourney team member casey call and the most underrated point guard in the GR's Brad Riner and this is a very very strong and dangerous team. Unlike Attica this team has a supporting cast and all of the starting five can just flat out shoot.

[Berask]

1)Wolfley (attica)
2)Davis (oa)
3)Williams (W.C)
4)Wright (Pembroke)
5)Francis (N.D)

How can someone who is injured (davis) be considered a top player? You should at least wait until he is healthy. Give the kids who are playing credit.

Wright from Pembroke used to go to Batavia and played on my AAU team for an entire summer. This kid is a beast. He is one of the most athletic kids ever to play in the GR league.

Francis from ND is an incredibly fast guard who can shoot, dribble, pass and play defense. He also used to go to Batavia and ever since I've known him he's been the same kind of athlete. He is extremely elusive with moves that the GR league has never seen.

These two, come next year, will be dominating every single team in the GR league.

[GodHelpUs]

How can someone who is injured (davis) be considered a top player? You should at least wait until he is healthy. Give the kids who are playing credit.

Wright from Pembroke used to go to Batavia and played on my AAU team for an entire summer. This kid is a beast. He is one of the most athletic kids ever to play in the GR league.

Francis from ND is an incredibly fast guard who can shoot, dribble, pass and play defense. He also used to go to Batavia and ever since I've known him he's been the same kind of athlete. He is extremely elusive with moves that the GR league has never seen.

These two, come next year, will be dominating every single team in the GR league.

Agreed

[easyrsaidthandone]

Some of you guys are forgetting about Ian Woodworth who has all the tools to be a standout this year in the GR. If he stays healthy and keeps his head on straight is just as good as the 2nd best player in the gr. ( Wolfley to me, is #1 for sure)

[BravesRTops]

Some of you guys are forgetting about Ian Woodworth who has all the tools to be a standout this year in the GR. If he stays healthy and keeps his head on straight is just as good as the 2nd best player in the gr. ( Wolfley to me, is #1 for sure)
Woodworth would be a sure fire number two except for the fact that he plays awful to abysmal defense depending on the night. His offense is there but until he shows that he can play d he will never be a top 5 player

[easyrsaidthandone]

he's strong,fast and quick and while I do not disagree that he can get lazy on defense, name me a big guy that doesnt get lazy once in awhile, 2nd best big guy in the gr..hands down.

[BravesRTops]

he's strong,fast and quick and while I do not disagree that he can get lazy on defense, name me a big guy that doesnt get lazy once in awhile, 2nd best big guy in the gr..hands down.
i'd like to see him battle Noah Seward before i can make a decision but everything else you said is right.

[xxlvbball]

So now that the season is actually underway, who look like the best players in the league as of now? Granted, league play is only about to begin, but still...

[SecVBallin]

1. Wolfley
2. Bochicchio
3. Woodworth
4. Francis
5. Gerber

[Berask]

So now that the season is actually underway, who look like the best players in the league as of now? Granted, league play is only about to begin, but still...

I'll go with this Bochicchio kid from ND and some Francis kid. They have been putting up good numbers.

[boobiemiles]

has elba even played a game yet? it seems tough to put woodworth over francis when francis has proved that he's a top player this season, and woodworth hasn't even played a game yet

[SecVBallin]

This is true. Francis could easily be 3. Ian is a good player, I put him there based on how I think he'll do. Kevin is having an unbelievable season so far though.

[BravesRTops]

Bochiccio is the best in the GR

[Section5sportsguy]

I know hes not in the top 5, let alone the top ten yet, but Josh Laureano of Kendall is the most fun player to watch. He makes passes that are NBA Street-esque. Plus his dad sits in the front row and is as funny as *expletive deleted*.

[Former GR Leaguer]

As for making the AGR 1st team, I believe Wolfley is going to have to lead Attica to at least the state semis in order to be considered. This isn't based on his talent, but more on the fact that the D&C focuses more on the city (where admittedly there is more talent) for its picks rather than the rest of Section V. However, if he does make the AGR 1st team without going to states (let alone winning sectionals), I will be the first to say I was wrong, guaranteed.

And, true to my word, I admit, I was wrong. I am surprised he made it, as well as the Williams kid from W-C making second team. Maybe the D&C has changed what they look for in players? I don't know. If so, then that is good for players from the GR. As I wrote before, players from the GR usually have to lead a team to at least a sectional win (and in most cases, a state title berth) before even being considered, in my opinion. The person I feel bad for is Jeff Weaver (ND '01). He led ND to a state title, was named State Player of the Year, and was named to the AGR 2nd team. Oh well, what's done is done.

[bcherry8]

And, true to my word, I admit, I was wrong. I am surprised he made it, as well as the Williams kid from W-C making second team. Maybe the D&C has changed what they look for in players? I don't know. If so, then that is good for players from the GR. As I wrote before, players from the GR usually have to lead a team to at least a sectional win (and in most cases, a state title berth) before even being considered, in my opinion. The person I feel bad for is Jeff Weaver (ND '01). He led ND to a state title, was named State Player of the Year, and was named to the AGR 2nd team. Oh well, what's done is done.
Hats off to you for admitting a mistake

[easyrsaidthandone]

i'd like to see him battle Noah Seward before i can make a decision but everything else you said is right.

Seward or Woodworth...Its Woodworth by a longshot..Ian finished the year very strong and the Lancers should be very proud of their effort!

[boobiemiles]

well I'd agree that ian was probably better offensively...I would take Noah as a much better low post defender

[easyrsaidthandone]

All around player: Not many would take seward.

[boobiemiles]

All around player: Not many would take seward.
actually... if you asked the coaches around the league who they would want as a big man... other than wolfley this year, i'm sure that noah would be on the majority of the coaches lists. he plays very good defense, held wolfley to 10 points (4 of which were when wolfley was all alone on a break), he doesn't foul much, and he is a very solid offensive player who is able to create and finish. he is consistant and not at all streaky. so as an all around player: noah probably better

[GRBball2008]

Well my opinion is probably a tad biased, as is yours but i will go with... Ian. Ian led us past an extremely tough ND team in sectionals. He could consistently go out and put up 20 or so points. He could basically score at will. And defensively idk how he would have matched up against wolf but he could have held his own. And i was not at the game where noah held derek to 10, but I can't help but to think that wolf must have had an off game. It's rare for him to score that few. Could noahs defense been a big factor? It could have been, again I wasn't there. But as an overall better player, if I was a coach and picking a big man for my team, I would take woodworth.

[bcherry8]

Well my opinion is probably a tad biased, as is yours but i will go with... Ian. Ian led us past an extremely tough ND team in sectionals. He could consistently go out and put up 20 or so points. He could basically score at will. And defensively idk how he would have matched up against wolf but he could have held his own. And i was not at the game where noah held derek to 10, but I can't help but to think that wolf must have had an off game. It's rare for him to score that few. Could noahs defense been a big factor? It could have been, again I wasn't there. But as an overall better player, if I was a coach and picking a big man for my team, I would take woodworth.
Noah played unbelievable defense in that game, he frustrated Wolfley the entire night

[easyrsaidthandone]

Im sure if the coaches had a fantasy draft, Ian would go way before Noah, sorry Noah but Ian could flat out play at both ends!

[GRBball2008]

Im sure if the coaches had a fantasy draft, Ian would go way before Noah, sorry Noah but Ian could flat out play at both ends!
I agree. In a GR fantasy draft Woodworth would go ahead of noah no doubt.

[overnback]

Noah played unbelievable defense in that game, he frustrated Wolfley the entire night

Correct me if I'm wrong but O-A played a box and 1(Noah) on Wolfley. They doubled with the closest guy and Wolfley passed out of the double team like he should have. Attica didn't shoot very well team wise. I would be surprised if Wolfley took ten shots the whole game. It was very good "team" defense not one man. Give credit to the coach of the year for his game plan and all the kids for carrying it out. I hope nobody is delusional enough to think that Seward can stop Wolfley all by himself.

[Wrestling01Champ]

Im sure if the coaches had a fantasy draft, Ian would go way before Noah, sorry Noah but Ian could flat out play at both ends!

didn't ian sit out for almost half the season this
year?

Also didnt he also miss time in football?

Character must be considered somewhere

[GRBball2008]

didn't ian sit out for almost half the season this
year?

Also didnt he also miss time in football?

Character must be considered somewhere
Yes he did miss time in both. Am i justifying his actions is football, no. However in basketball his suspension was in my opinion, undeserved. I don't want to make this into a should ian have been suspended or not debate because A, its not what this thread is about, and B, we prob won't agree. But as far as talent and basketball skills go, you would be foolish to take noah before ian.

[joeZam1]

I must admire your avatar...:)

[GRBball2008]

I must admire your avatar...:)
hahaha thank you. from the sectional championship dinner.

[joeZam1]

Oh I remember it very well, that was a great memory and great time for the kids and players involved!

[boobiemiles]

Oh I remember it very well, that was a great memory and great time for the kids and players involved!
ok. well we can beat this subject to death, and neither of us will give way... so we will agree to disagee here

[boobiemiles]

Correct me if I'm wrong but O-A played a box and 1(Noah) on Wolfley. They doubled with the closest guy and Wolfley passed out of the double team like he should have. Attica didn't shoot very well team wise. I would be surprised if Wolfley took ten shots the whole game. It was very good "team" defense not one man. Give credit to the coach of the year for his game plan and all the kids for carrying it out. I hope nobody is delusional enough to think that Seward can stop Wolfley all by himself.
they played box and 1 the first time

the second game they played, they played man, and would double when he got the ball. but also, evey other team in the league played similair defenses, and wolfley still dominated those defenses. the only other game that wolf was held to 10 or under was agains midlakes in the first regular season game of the year

[bcherry8]

they played box and 1 the first time

the second game they played, they played man, and would double when he got the ball. but also, evey other team in the league played similair defenses, and wolfley still dominated those defenses. the only other game that wolf was held to 10 or under was agains midlakes in the first regular season game of the year
And when they played box and 1 the first time, Wolfley still scored 20+, so you have to give Noah credit for his performance the second game

[joeZam1]

Noah is a very hard-nosed player and I take nothing away from him, but on offensive skill alone I will take Ian.

[GodHelpUs]

And when they played box and 1 the first time, Wolfley still scored 20+, so you have to give Noah credit for his performance the second game

if you were to watch the game film you can't give the credit to noah, but the oakfiels defense as a whole. everytime wolfley caught the ball he lredy had seward on him but oa ran one to two extra defenders at him evertime and threw it out to the open man. lets be real no one player in the gr could check wolf. lets think here. and i would have to take ian in this arguement lol

[bcherry8]

Daryl Holloway was unbelievable. He played at ND and Batavia.

Alex Sepi, of course.
We were talking about current GR players, but good research