Pembroke VS. Elba

[boobiemiles]

With woodworth sitting on the bench in street clothes, elba was still able to put up an inspiring performance against a very good pemberoke team.

Star players:
Wright took over the game, as expected, and babcock played as expected, as well.

Hoover played exceptionally well, and Rocco played unbelievably good near the end of the game.

Overall
It was a very high scoring game early, and slowed until the 4th quarter. With elba down 6 with 1:00 left in the 4th, the lancers missed a shot, and as pembroke was advancing around midcourt, rocco was able to get the steal and immediatly hit a three to bring elba back into the game. Eventually, with a little over 2 seconds left, elba inbounded the ball to rocco who missed a potential game tying three from about nba range. Considering the absence of Woodworth, and the quality of pembrokes team, Elba played very well, but wasn't able to connect on the final few chances.



Pembroke 73
Elba 70
PEM - Ken Babcock 22; Andrew Wright 29; ELB - Casey Hoover 25; Philip Ostroski 13; Rocco Zambito 18;

[bcherry8]

With woodworth sitting on the bench in street clothes, elba was still able to put up an inspiring performance against a very good pemberoke team.

Star players:
Wright took over the game, as expected, and babcock played as expected, as well.

Hoover played exceptionally well, and Rocco played unbelievably good near the end of the game.

Overall
It was a very high scoring game early, and slowed until the 4th quarter. With elba down 6 with 1:00 left in the 4th, the lancers missed a shot, and as pembroke was advancing around midcourt, rocco was able to get the steal and immediatly hit a three to bring elba back into the game. Eventually, with a little over 2 seconds left, elba inbounded the ball to rocco who missed a potential game tying three from about nba range. Considering the absence of Woodworth, and the quality of pembrokes team, Elba played very well, but wasn't able to connect on the final few chances.



Pembroke 73
Elba 70
PEM - Ken Babcock 22; Andrew Wright 29; ELB - Casey Hoover 25; Philip Ostroski 13; Rocco Zambito 18;
Two players combine for 51 of their 73 points? Wow

[TurnTwo]

Sounds like a good game.

[kendallbench07]

So i hear Woodworth is out....for what

[SUman1515]

woodworth was seen smoking a cigarette at work and someone told the principle who suspended him for six games. no lie

[kendallbench07]

wow....a little dramatic??

[UNCman5]

very dramatic, the school wont even tell him OR his family who said it either. a bit rediculous.

[UNCTarheels]

very dramatic, the school wont even tell him OR his family who said it either. a bit rediculous.

Nice Name! Big Ty Lawson Fan, nice to have you on board!!!!

woodworth was seen smoking a cigarette at work and someone told the principle who suspended him for six games. no lie

Rules are rules, most schools he'd be done for the season and others he'd be done playing sports peroid! I'd say he got off easy, if he is in fact guilty which I have know way of knowing.

[secvfan]

Nice Name! Big Ty Lawson Fan, nice to have you on board!!!!



Rules are rules, most schools he'd be done for the season and others he'd be done playing sports peroid! I'd say he got off easy, if he is in fact guilty which I have know way of knowing.

Elba will always be Elba, all most every year something happens in the town, either drinking party or something. Elba really needs to kick these kids off the team for the whole season in fact the rest of the year and set a standard. This will keep happening and has for the past four years or longer until they start kicking these kids out sports for the year. The school needs to be on top of this and set higher standards and be consistent with punishments. These are kid we are talking about who are breaking school rules and the law.

[UNCman5]

Elba will always be Elba, all most every year something happens in the town, either drinking party or something. Elba really needs to kick these kids off the team for the whole season in fact the rest of the year and set a standard. This will keep happening and has for the past four years or longer until they start kicking these kids out sports for the year. The school needs to be on top of this and set higher standards and be consistent with punishments. These are kid we are talking about who are breaking school rules and the law.


i agree with that. the only problem I had was with the school not telling him who it was that suposidely saw him. But speaking about the game, it seems as hoover stepped up and played a pretty good game from what i saw. so did rocco. both of them need to hold their composure and stay out of foul trouble if they have any chance of winning with woodworth out.

[secvfan]

i agree with that. the only problem I had was with the school not telling him who it was that suposidely saw him. But speaking about the game, it seems as hoover stepped up and played a pretty good game from what i saw. so did rocco. both of them need to hold their composure and stay out of foul trouble if they have any chance of winning with woodworth out.

It really doesn't matter who told on him, he did do it and that is what matters. It would only make things worst for the person who told and everybody knows once you are hated over at Elba you will be and outcast and they tend to go to the extreme from what I have heard and seen, not just with the students, but with the parents too.

[UNCman5]

It really doesn't matter who told on him, he did do it and that is what matters. It would only make things worst for the person who told and everybody knows once you are hated over at Elba you will be and outcast and they tend to go to the extreme from what I have heard and seen, not just with the students, but with the parents too.



very true.

[Levelheaded]

It really doesn't matter who told on him, he did do it and that is what matters. It would only make things worst for the person who told and everybody knows once you are hated over at Elba you will be and outcast and they tend to go to the extreme from what I have heard and seen, not just with the students, but with the parents too.

It does matter who told on him; this is America and one of our most basic principles is the right to confront your accuser, to be able to ask questions and make sure facts are accurate. I understand if one is afraid of retaliation of any kind, however if one is willing to accuse then that same person must be willing to go public. Otherwise, it is open season on any student and yes, even school employees may take advantage, especially Elba, where tensions are obviously still high. In this case, the school can't hide behind anonymity. What if the student wasn't smoking...what message and long lasting affects did the school present to him?

[Attica Coach]

I would think that the school probably did an investigation before finding this player guilty. In most situations dealing with student behavior the student is presumed innocent. If this player was smoking then it is totally his fault. His actions are terrible. Varsity players are supposed to be setting an example for others not only for their play on the court, but MORE importantly their behavior off it.

[TurnTwo]

I would think that the school probably did an investigation before finding this player guilty. In most situations dealing with student behavior the student is presumed innocent. If this player was smoking then it is totally his fault. His actions are terrible. Varsity players are supposed to be setting an example for others not only for their play on the court, but MORE importantly their behavior off it.

Exactly. And this kid isn't exactly a choir boy, either.

I'd like to think adults have better things to do than make up stories about a 17 year old kid. I would be very surprised if this was false.

[Monkey0713]

Exactly. And this kid isn't exactly a choir boy, either.

I'd like to think adults have better things to do than make up stories about a 17 year old kid. I would be very surprised if this was false.

I did want to see him play though so that kinda sucks.

[Levelheaded]

The issue isn't what the school did, it's what they didn't do...allow the accused to face his accuser. That is unacceptable. Appropriate punishment after proper due process is acceptable. If he did it he deserves the punishment but anyone can accuse unfairly under these conditions. What investigation did they do? Sounds to me that they listened to an employee and passed sentence without corraboration. This is not 1940's Germany. We shouldn't be so eager to jump to conclusions.

[Attica Coach]

The issue isn't what the school did, it's what they didn't do...

The real issue is what the STUDENT did!
The school only responds to the STUDENTS actions.
Without poor behavior, there is no punishment.

[Monkey0713]

The real issue is what the STUDENT did!
The school only responds to the STUDENTS actions.
Without poor behavior, there is no punishment.

Agreed.

[Levelheaded]

So, you were there? You saw him? All students at Elba are at risk of being accused and punished unfairly under these rules...if you were not there you don't have any credibilty to make such determinations. No one, not you or I, should be punished on the sly. I am not going to reply again...there is nothing but one person's statement and yes, there are adults at Elba that would wrongly do this.

[Attica Coach]

So, you were there? You saw him? All students at Elba are at risk of being accused and punished unfairly under these rules...if you were not there you don't have any credibilty to make such determinations. No one, not you or I, should be punished on the sly. I am not going to reply again...there is nothing but one person's statement and yes, there are adults at Elba that would wrongly do this.

I never said that the student was guilty. I know very little about this situation. I am just giving the school some credit for how they might deal with student behavior.

I also have a hard time believing that an adult would make up a story about a high school student just so that he gets in trouble and misses a basketball game. I guess I just have more faith in adults than you do.

[Monkey0713]

So, you were there? You saw him? All students at Elba are at risk of being accused and punished unfairly under these rules...if you were not there you don't have any credibilty to make such determinations. No one, not you or I, should be punished on the sly. I am not going to reply again...there is nothing but one person's statement and yes, there are adults at Elba that would wrongly do this.

Nice rant,..... Woodworth

[kendallbench07]

I never said that the student was guilty. I know very little about this situation. I am just giving the school some credit for how they might deal with student behavior.

I also have a hard time believing that an adult would make up a story about a high school student just so that he gets in trouble and misses a basketball game. I guess I just have more faith in adults than you do.

The consequences depends on circumstances that non of us will ever know...it could be an ongoing thread with different opinions.

[Former GR Leaguer]

So, you were there? You saw him? All students at Elba are at risk of being accused and punished unfairly under these rules...if you were not there you don't have any credibilty to make such determinations. No one, not you or I, should be punished on the sly. I am not going to reply again...there is nothing but one person's statement and yes, there are adults at Elba that would wrongly do this.

Levelheaded doesn't seem to be staying that way...............

[TurnTwo]

Like I alluded to before, maybe if this was a straight-A well respected student, the situation would be different, but obviously it's not. This young man's actions in the past I'm sure influenced the schools decisions.

Also, I'm sure whoever the source was must have been credible or no action would be taken. Who knows? Maybe it was a teacher that saw him.

[bcherry8]

Party at Woodworth's!

[Section5sportsguy]

Party at Woodworth's!

Did you RSVP?

[bcherry8]

Did you RSVP?
What do you mean RSVP?

[joeZam1]

i guess Ian had signatures from people who worked at martins defending him, but only from what Ive heard elba didnt care.....now thats hard to believe that elba didnt care or give Ian a chance to defend himself. Now you know why vinney z. got out of their. Its too bad because there are still alot of good people and teachers in elba..Maybe it was ecs parent who tattled on Ian. Sorry #15 you could flat out play..keep ur head up and use it as a learning experience.