Best teams in Class A, AA, and AAA

[Mr.Somebody]

Any takers for who will be the top in Class A, AA, and AAA for secton V?

[Mr.Somebody]

AAA-Hilton
AA-Athena
A-Pittsford sutherland

what about mcquaid for AA and fairport for AAA? and how about victor for A?

[Mr.Somebody]

yeahh grissom is good. solid pitcher and even better hitter. But i duno if hes the best player in section V. Christian Segar from mcquaid is unbelievable. He ran a 6.7 60 and is currently being recruited by UConn and others. He's going big and he's only a junior. I had the opportunity to see what he can do and he's going to be somethin special.

[headers29]

yeahh grissom is good. solid pitcher and even better hitter. But i duno if hes the best player in section V. Christian Segar from mcquaid is unbelievable. He ran a 6.7 60 and is currently being recruited by UConn and others. He's going big and he's only a junior. I had the opportunity to see what he can do and he's going to be somethin special.

Ya i have played with him before and he has a chance to be very good. He is a good hitter and he is also very fast. He really has to work on his fielding though. I would not be suprised at all though if he plays at a very good school after high school. McQuaid should be a very good team next year. They have another very good junior in mike kazly, and they also have probably the best pitcher in AA Ryan Hohtalen. Hohtalen is also a great hitter. McQuaid will be a very tough team to beat come sectionals time, but Athena could easily win it all also.

[intensity54]

yeahh grissom is good. solid pitcher and even better hitter. But i duno if hes the best player in section V. Christian Segar from mcquaid is unbelievable. He ran a 6.7 60 and is currently being recruited by UConn and others. He's going big and he's only a junior. I had the opportunity to see what he can do and he's going to be somethin special.

haha you are joking right??? Seegar is nothing special at all. Sure he may be fast and have a good frame, but he cannot field to save his life. If he cleans up his game then i think that he has a chance to be a very good player, possibly d1 caliber.

[baseball11]

I have seen Segar and Kazley play together numerous times. They are the two of the most promising players in the section. Mcq looks like a favorite to win to me. They have hitting in segar, kazley, and that young SS. They have the best 1,2 in the section with houhtalen and kazley.

[headers29]

I have seen Segar and Kazley play together numerous times. They are the two of the most promising players in the section. Mcq looks like a favorite to win to me. They have hitting in segar, kazley, and that young SS. They have the best 1,2 in the section with houhtalen and kazley.

Wow they are good players but I would not say that they are the most promising players in the section. Not even by a long shot. They have the talent though to become very very good players. Kazly could end up being a very good pitcher, from what I have heard though he can be wild.

I have heard from many people that Athena should be very good next year so I would not say that McQuaid is the team to beat just quite yet

[Mr.Somebody]

I dont think intensity54 really knows what he's talking about. Segar is very good, seeing that Uconn has already contacted him and he is being recruited heavily by them as well as other D1 schools. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and should probably think twice before you have anything to say regarding someone that you know nothing about.

Anyways, anyone have favorite for class A?

[baseball11]

probably pittsford sutherland. they are always a strong team

[pittsfordfootball8791]

i dont know about that. Our ace this year is a sophmore, its really up to him wether or not how far we go. we really dont have anybody else besides him so someone would have to step up and pitch. but our defence will be solid as always and our hitting should be improved

[baseball11]

fennel is at least decent?

[Mr.Somebody]

i dont know about that. Our ace this year is a sophmore, its really up to him wether or not how far we go. we really dont have anybody else besides him so someone would have to step up and pitch. but our defence will be solid as always and our hitting should be improved


K, I don't who you are pittsfordfootball, butt you don't what you're talking about. Yes, Hollowell is a good pitcher, but I'm not even sure that he can be called the ace yet. Fennell is going to Canisius to pitch, they are D1 so he clearly has good stuff. Also, they have another solid pitcher in Menard. No one on the squad really throws gas, but all of them are very crafty.

[pittsfordfootball8791]

believe me hallowell is gonna be our number on this year, and fennel throws the heat, but he has no control at all, he actually played some games down on JV last year with me because he walks everybody, and menard is very good too but i can see hallowell edging him out to be the number 1

[Mr.Somebody]

believe me hallowell is gonna be our number on this year, and fennel throws the heat, but he has no control at all, he actually played some games down on JV last year with me because he walks everybody, and menard is very good too but i can see hallowell edging him out to be the number 1

Yeah, Fennel had control issues, LAST YEAR. He has since worked with Lou Izzo, probably one of the best pitching coaches in the Rochester area. He now throws strikes on a consistant basis. He pretty much kills at our hitting league games. I don't see how you can be so sure about all of this when you were on JV last year and didn't even see Hollowell throw, or for that matter, Menard either. What's your name by the way?

[DrewVT6]

Mr Somebody- How do you feel about PerfectGame.org?

They have a ton of local players rated from their showcase in WNY in 2007.

WNY Showcase Profiles (http://www.perfectgame.org/players/?tn=436)

Ryan Houghtalen (http://www.perfectgame.org/players/playerprofile.aspx?ID=130840) wasnt at that showcase, but he's one of the highest rated local players. A 9 on their scale of 1-10.

Here's what they say about Hallowell (http://www.perfectgame.org/players/playerprofile.aspx?ID=118469):
Matt Hallowell is a 2010 RHP/1B from Sutherland HS, residing in Pittsford, New York, with a 6'1"/210 pound frame. Pitches with a smooth delivery, long arm action, power pitchers body, downward plane, heavy FB at 80 mph, straight CH with solid arm speed at 62 mph, CH is his out pitch, solid CB at 60 mph, mixes pitches well, hits from a narrow base, uses upper body well, makes consistent contact, fields out front at 1B, solid actions around the bag.
They give him a 7.5 rating.

Here's their scale:
10 -- Potential very high draft pick, Top DI in the nation prospect
9 -- Potential top 10 round pick, Top DI prospect
8 -- Potential mid round pick, definite DI prospect
7 -- Potential low round pick, DI prospect or top level Juco, DII
6 -- Possible DI prospect, definite DII or Juco prospect
5 -- Possible DII prospect or mid range Juco prospect
4 -- Possible low level DII or high level DIII prospect
3 -- Possible DIII or low level Juco prospect
2 -- Possible low level DIII prospect
1 -- No prospect at this time

[pittsfordfootball8791]

I've seen hallowell throw many times. but i dident know that fennel was getting some lessons thats good. now that his control is down hes gonna have an excellent season. I just thought that since pretty much hallowell was the number 2 pitcher last year that he'd be the first now, but things change. do you by any chance know how menards pitching is doing?

[Mr.Somebody]

DrewVT6-

Normally, I would support Perfectgame.org with their ratings and such. However, for Hollowell, I do not support them. You see, the East Coast Grays coach/recruiter Chris Snusz does perfect game ratings and he boosts all of the players stats. I was at the same showcase as Hallowell that you got that report from. I was rated an 8 or 8.5, but I will tell you right now that I am not going to get drafted. He simply got a 7.5 based on the fact that Chris Snusz was the man in charge that day. He ran the perfect game event. So for most players, I support their ratings. For those that play for the East Coast Grays, I am not sure that I support it entirely.

Now, that kid Ryan that you mentioned, he is legit. I played with him in Syracuse over the summer aswell as NYC. He was throwing 85-89 in Syracuse and touched 87 or 88 in NYC. He is a legit ball player.

To respond to Pittsfordfootball,

I think that the Sutherland team will struggle to have one defined "Ace" this year. Howie, Menard, and Fennel are all possibilities. If anything, I think we should refer to the three as Ace A,B, and C. (and being ace A does not make them any better than ace C.) But to answer your question, Menard has been throwing pretty well. I think he will have a good season.

[crashtest]

I notive that you post a lot of hear-say.

You obviously are a very entusiastic supporter of the Greece schools, but don't get so excited when you hear someone is injured on another team.

I know that Athena graduated over half of its varsiy from team last year, yet you are sure they will be in the sectional finals this year.

You also say that they have a superstar player....so what?
The top soccer goal scorer this year was on a team that never came close to a sectional final.

I'm sure your team will do well, but don't make it so obvious that your are just trying to pump up your team.

[secfivesports]

i have heard that he may be out for the season as well...it will be tough for that team without him this year

[rhbaseball2008]

AAA-Hilton
AA-Athena
A-Pittsford sutherland

I believe that Hilton is in AA. I play at Rush-Henrietta and we only play them once and if a team is in your division you will play them twice one at home and one away.

I would say
AAA Rush Henrietta
AA Hilton
A Pittsford Sutherland

Why doesn't anyone like Rush-Henrietta for AAA we only graduated four players from last years co-county championship team and only three of them played.

[rhbaseball2008]

Maybe they just haven't scheduled our second game with them yet. Do you know much about there team? I know Jeff Allan, Jon Schwind, and Gavin Black but everyone else I remember graduated.

[rhbaseball2008]

I think you are thinking of Shawn Corrigan. He was inconsistent last year as a Sophomore but he has been working hard this off-season and with that year of experience I think he should be very good this year. It's too bad we had to start him in that game vs. Fairport. While Fairport was playing some city school team in the previous round who they could beat without using any of there top pitchers we had a tough game against Churchville where we had to use our top two pitchers. Somehow I think they need to fix sectionals because there is no way that the number one team should be playing a team much better than the number two team. The only thing I can think of is there are four city schools and six others so they should make the city schools play each other in the first round where it is 7 vs. 10 and 8 vs. 9.

[rhbaseball2008]

We actually have four of the top five pitchers back from last season. Depth after that maybe an issue but in sectionals you only need three pitchers and that fits us perfectly.

[catchaprospect]

[QUOTE=Mr.Somebody;16681]DrewVT6-

Normally, I would support Perfectgame.org with their ratings and such. However, for Hollowell, I do not support them. You see, the East Coast Grays coach/recruiter Chris Snusz does perfect game ratings and he boosts all of the players stats. I was at the same showcase as Hallowell that you got that report from. I was rated an 8 or 8.5, but I will tell you right now that I am not going to get drafted. He simply got a 7.5 based on the fact that Chris Snusz was the man in charge that day. He ran the perfect game event. So for most players, I support their ratings. For those that play for the East Coast Grays, I am not sure that I support it entirely.



ok mr somebody... lets not start making comments that are completely false. for starters, chris snusz does not do rankings for perfect game.. he has worked 2 showcases for them (2006 sunshine northeast and 2007 wny state) in which he helped evaluate the players. how the players are ranked comes directly from PG headquarters. because matt hallowell got a 7.5 as a freshman simply means he is at a velocity that is better than normal ( i think it was 80)... same reason why cito culver and brian dixon were rated 9's... cito has been clocked low to mid 80's and dixon has been competing in 18u PG tournaments since the day he entered hs... he's also one of the most polished 010 catchers on the east coast....

kids at that age are about projection. if hallowell is hitting 80 as a freshman then if you add 2-3 mph each year, then by the time he would be a senior he could be a 90+ guy, which at that time might place him as a potential draft choice.. it is hard to project at that age, but the job they do is tremendous with the amount of kids they showcase.

as far as boosting all of the kids stats, you are way out of line. as far as your thoughts on the Grays, understand that they have people recommended to them by scouts and college coaches along with the core group. they attend the absolute best of the best tournaments and compete against DI/pro prospects at them. this might be why they have had so many players committed to Division I programs... i believe its over 20 in 2 years.

ryan houghtalen is a prime example. he was 84-86 at East Cobb (a tournament attended by 500+ college/pro scouts in july) with command issues. even with that being said, he was promoted as a kid who needs some tweaking but definitely has something to offer. he got some help from Al Edwards and Lou Izzo, and then he is 87-89 and lights out... gets invited to the PG Top Prospect Showcase in MA and goes and visits places major DI conference schools...... now he'll go to college for free. The Grays promote their kids as well as putting them at venues to be seen by a ton of colleges.. from their its up to the player to perform.

[catchaprospect]

heres an example of the rating scale.

patrick coleman, one of hallowells teammates scored a 6.5 during the 2006 Ohio Valley Top Prospect Showcase.. he threw 75mph from the outfield as a soph

last feb at the 2007 WNY state showcase he was clocked at 85 on the mound as a junior and his rating went up to 8.

patrick has a lot of tools, but like many he needs some polishing... he has committed to Canisius College, so he'll get the opportunity to play Division I baseball. I know many people who think the world of this young man and are excited for him.

[sucka.]

hiltons schedule is AA but were playin sectionals in AAA just like in basketball

[threesportathlete]

Hilton will be in AAA for season and sectionals starting next year. They are currently classified as the smallest AAA school

[jrabaseball]

top three are (in my opinion):

Hilton - AAA

McQuaid/Athena - AA (should be finals matchup, pending a fluke game or whatever, i put them together because i cant decide between the two)

Victor - A

Hilton has a very strong rotation, and their lineup is solid from top to bottom. McQuaid has arguably the best pitcher in sectionv, Kazley who is awesome (sophmore on empire states team) and Alocco at SS is learning but still good. Victor has Eric Povero who when I last talked to was being recruited by Rutgers. They also have some younger players who need to make the adjustment to varsity but are promising players.

In the AAA, AA crossover game (this may be a bias statement) Hilton will beat either McQuaid or Athena. Hilton plays McQuaid once in Florida and Athena twice during the season so we will all be able to see the results of those games.

Rush should end up playing Hilton in the finals of AAA.

[slamjam297]

top three are (in my opinion):

Hilton - AAA

McQuaid/Athena - AA (should be finals matchup, pending a fluke game or whatever, i put them together because i cant decide between the two)

Victor - A

Hilton has a very strong rotation, and their lineup is solid from top to bottom. McQuaid has arguably the best pitcher in sectionv, Kazley who is awesome (sophmore on empire states team) and Alocco at SS is learning but still good. Victor has Eric Povero who when I last talked to was being recruited by Rutgers. They also have some younger players who need to make the adjustment to varsity but are promising players.

In the AAA, AA crossover game (this may be a bias statement) Hilton will beat either McQuaid or Athena. Hilton plays McQuaid once in Florida and Athena twice during the season so we will all be able to see the results of those games.

Rush should end up playing Hilton in the finals of AAA.


Kazley better than Houghtalen? We will just have to see about that one, Kazley is very promising but only time will tell. But ya Hilton should have an extremely solid team this year, great pitching and they are always well coached. I have not heard anything about gavin yet, how is he looking so far and what do you guys expect out of him?

[jrabaseball]

houghtalen is 100% better than kazely I've played with and against them both but kazely is definitly the star for 09. Better than that Christian kid I think.

Gavin Black has been consistently throwing low to mid 80s all offseason and he also has been swinging a pretty strong, impressive bat. Look for him to do well this season as the ace of the staff and a probable 5 hitter.

[Cadet Crew CEO]

I believe that Hilton is in AA. I play at Rush-Henrietta and we only play them once and if a team is in your division you will play them twice one at home and one away.

I would say
AAA Rush Henrietta
AA Hilton
A Pittsford Sutherland

Why doesn't anyone like Rush-Henrietta for AAA we only graduated four players from last years co-county championship team and only three of them played.


Hilton is in AAA but in Division 2 so we will be playing arcadia athena thomas and those guys twice but will play up in sectionals!

[rhbaseball2008]

Yeah I know after I posted that I remebered the section v website and looked it up. Your schedule threw me off but then I saw the difference between being in division two and class AAA. Hilton is lucky they will probably get the number one seed in sectionals because of their easy schedule unlike here at RH where I think we play the toughest schedule.

[Cadet Crew CEO]

Yeah I know after I posted that I remebered the section v website and looked it up. Your schedule threw me off but then I saw the difference between being in division two and class AAA. Hilton is lucky they will probably get the number one seed in sectionals because of their easy schedule unlike here at RH where I think we play the toughest schedule.

Hilton Def. does not have an easy schedule this year.. We Play Athena Twice wich never is a walk in the park(rematch of the sectional finals).. Mcquaid once.. ( rematch from sectional semi-finals) Aquinas, Sodas (argubally the best pitcher in this area) Victor, Churchville Chili, and Rush..

Our coach when he came up to the varsity level 3 seasons ago he had a mind set that in order to be the best you got to play the best.. and our schedle has gotten tougher every year!

[threesportathlete]

Both AAA and AA have great competition in their respective league. No matter who you play you have to show up and win. For both Rush and Hilton they will be facing the ace's of all their opponents. So all it may take is one good pitcher for one team to slip up. So both teams have fairly tough schedules.

[jrabaseball]

i think all teams have difficult schedules this year because both AAA and AA are quite competitive. most games will probably be close with an exception to spencerport and arcadia. (those teams arent bad though) Its had to say teams have harder schedules than others considering everyone basically plays the same teams, its not like the NFL or college football. athenas schedule is just as hard as hiltons and so is Rush-Henrietta's.

ya digg?

[monctybbfan]

dont underestimate arcadia

[gball2215]

what depth does arcadia have after liddell and dejesus. neither will be effective on the mound and they lack offense. they will fight for last place with olympia and irondequoit

[jrabaseball]

Liddells a bro and i like Ruggeri, but Arcadia will definitly be bottom 3 teams at a maximum. sorry monctybbfan your dreams are over, lets get serious....

[jrabaseball]

they also have the Kubel brothers (i think i spelled it right) but other than that i cant think of anyone who could have an impact individualy

[jrabaseball]

either juniors or seniors im unsure. one pitches and one catches. the catcher is pretty solid, and the pitcher mixes well. doesnt throw hard though

[sucka.]

rumor has it that olympia wont be as bad as people are expecting them 2 be? anybody have any info on them ik they have an alright 1-3 rotation but not that good but there probably going to be a lil shaky hitting

[jrabaseball]

here are olympia's top guys

Mike Lagona (OF, power guy)
Paternico (top pitcher)
LeCarte (C, good hitter, average catcher)
their leadoff hitter, i forgot his name

other than that i cant think of any other guys. their third baseman was solid last year but i cant think of his name or whether or not he already graduated

[gball2215]

Valbergs 3B Pelow is leadoff hitter and Hewitt is the pitcher

[jrabaseball]

thanks, i was thinking of Valbergs and Pelow. Hewitts solid as well i forgot about him.