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N77D_OT_FOREVER
01-17-2008, 12:05 AM
the GR has alot of good ball for being how small the schools are..........Lets here what ya'll think
hilly
01-17-2008, 01:29 AM
the GR has alot of good ball for being how small the schools are..........Lets here what ya'll think
pembroke/oa
Section5sportsguy
01-17-2008, 09:43 AM
Attica-Alexander
bcherry8
01-17-2008, 10:14 AM
pembroke/oa
Agreed. There have been good OA-Elba games too
bcherry8
01-17-2008, 10:15 AM
Attica-Alexander
It would be a better rivalry if Alexander could compete with Attica year after year
xxlvbball
01-17-2008, 11:22 AM
the past couple years there has been almost a tri-rivalry between nd, pembroke, and oa...with us playing pembroke for a share of the title last year, and oa twice including the crossover and 4ot games
bcherry8
01-17-2008, 11:51 AM
the past couple years there has been almost a tri-rivalry between nd, pembroke, and oa...with us playing pembroke for a share of the title last year, and oa twice including the crossover and 4ot games
The sad thing is, we actually won enough games to win states if we had that record the year before the crossover game, but they had to throw in the merger
Section5sportsguy
01-17-2008, 03:41 PM
Oh my bad, I thought this was a basketball thread lol. Yeah heres how id rank the football rivalries:
1. Oakfield-Pembroke
2. Attica-Alexander
3. Notre Dame-Oakfield
4. Attica-Pembroke
5. Barker-Holley
sectionvalum
01-17-2008, 04:35 PM
Oh my bad, I thought this was a basketball thread lol. Yeah heres how id rank the football rivalries:
1. Oakfield-Pembroke
2. Attica-Alexander
3. Notre Dame-Oakfield
4. Attica-Pembroke
5. Barker-Holley
Pretty good list but number 5 is a little questionable(I think you are joking right?). I am not sure but does Holley still have a football team?
I didn't know Attica-Pembroke was such a rivalry. I know the Elba team has diminished some over the years but the Elba-Notre Dame rivalry was pretty heated along with the Elba-Oakfield of the late 90's and early 2000's. I believe Oakfield had not beaten Elba from 1998-2002 (I could be off on my years) including sectional play and that left a bitter taste in the mouths of many Oakfield players.
boobiemiles
01-17-2008, 04:46 PM
Pretty good list but number 5 is a little questionable(I think you are joking right?). I am not sure but does Holley still have a football team?
I didn't know Attica-Pembroke was such a rivalry. I know the Elba team has diminished some over the years but the Elba-Notre Dame rivalry was pretty heated along with the Elba-Oakfield of the late 90's and early 2000's. I believe Oakfield had not beaten Elba from 1998-2002 (I could be off on my years) including sectional play and that left a bitter taste in the mouths of many Oakfield players.
holley didn't have a team this year, but it's a good rivalry cuz they're the only two teams that each other can beat(other than elba this year)
orangefan74
01-21-2008, 09:09 PM
Who looks good for 2008?
Snowboarder32
01-21-2008, 09:49 PM
It would be a better rivalry if Alexander could compete with Attica year after year
I think the skill levels of the two teams are regardless i think its the fact that the students each have a bitter hatred for the other schools and that transfers into all the sports beyond football to basketball, baseball, ect ect thats why its such a good rivalry
Section5sportsguy
01-21-2008, 09:54 PM
We should have in-depth reports on each team done by a member from each school. I can do Attica, boobiemiles can do O-A, and so forth. I think that would give us a better perspective on the GR teams.
boobiemiles
01-22-2008, 05:34 PM
We should have in-depth reports on each team done by a member from each school. I can do Attica, boobiemiles can do O-A, and so forth. I think that would give us a better perspective on the GR teams.
as far as football rivalries and what we think of each other?
Section5sportsguy
01-22-2008, 05:36 PM
as far as football rivalries and what we think of each other?
yeah lol
TopShelf
01-22-2008, 05:52 PM
OA dominates us every year. No matter how good Attica is, OA always seems to be 20 points better.
boobiemiles
01-22-2008, 08:13 PM
yeah lol
i'm not the best for football. i could do a really good basketball rivalry report, but football's a little tougher
Attica-we beat them every year. blowout this last year, close the two seasons before that
Alexander-gave us trouble early this year, usually not too much trouble, beat us four years ago(?)
Barker-Who?
Elba-Great rivalry game in the past, including some very close games, played twice, four years ago, elba went on to win sectionals that year. always a good game, let down past two years
Holley-see barker
Notre Dame-Triple overtime game in season opener two years ago shocked everybody, came back in state-playin game with another very good game (can we hold onto the football?) played very tough past two years
Pembroke-as hilly will tell you, best game every year, with pembroke edging out oakfield for the third year in a row this year, potential sectional matchup, with both teams having state aspirations every year.
Section5sportsguy
01-22-2008, 09:48 PM
i'm not the best for football. i could do a really good basketball rivalry report, but football's a little tougher
Attica-we beat them every year. blowout this last year, close the two seasons before that
Alexander-gave us trouble early this year, usually not too much trouble, beat us four years ago(?)
Barker-Who?
Elba-Great rivalry game in the past, including some very close games, played twice, four years ago, elba went on to win sectionals that year. always a good game, let down past two years
Holley-see barker
Notre Dame-Triple overtime game in season opener two years ago shocked everybody, came back in state-playin game with another very good game (can we hold onto the football?) played very tough past two years
Pembroke-as hilly will tell you, best game every year, with pembroke edging out oakfield for the third year in a row this year, potential sectional matchup, with both teams having state aspirations every year.
Alexander - This is easily the biggest must win game. If you lose to them, you become a laughingstock. A lot of personal rivalries, also stemming from other sports. Always a hard hitting game. Rivalry really revved up when they beat us in 2004.
Barker - See Holley
Elba - Used to be a pretty good rival, now just another team. Beaten them the past two years, we always expect them to be better then they end up being.
Holley- See Barker
Notre Dame - No real bad blood, but always a good game. We've beaten them pretty good the past couple of years, didnt play them in 06, but beat them 24-10 in 07.
Oakfield - A game we've always wanted to badly win, but havent been able too lately. "Oakfield week" is always the most physical week of practice, as we recreate their offense and all the wreckage. Attica just hasnt figured out a way to beat them.
Pembroke- One of the least talked about rivalries. Great deal of trash talk not only during games, but in weeks leading to games. This game always seems to be a gauge on whether the program had a good season or not. Ill tell ya beating Pembroke this year was probably one of the greater moments in recent Attica history (Yes, CalMum homer, Attica hasnt done well in sectionals)
orangefan74
02-09-2008, 01:41 PM
We should have in-depth reports on each team done by a member from each school. I can do Attica, boobiemiles can do O-A, and so forth. I think that would give us a better perspective on the GR teams.
nd should be good - finished very strong last year and really deserved to get to sectional finals as they manhandled dundee in semi's but turnovers killed them. Most skill players are back and very fast (francis, shildwaster, pratt, lair, etc.) and they have a few monsters up front. should def be a big factor in class d again
sectionvalum
02-10-2008, 11:57 AM
nd should be good - finished very strong last year and really deserved to get to sectional finals as they manhandled dundee in semi's but turnovers killed them. Most skill players are back and very fast (francis, shildwaster, pratt, lair, etc.) and they have a few monsters up front. should def be a big factor in class d again
who will play quarterback?
orangefan74
02-10-2008, 12:48 PM
who will play quarterback?
Either shildwaster or young bochiccio
alex-chunkx12
02-11-2008, 05:57 PM
Who looks good for 2008?
well as sad as it is for me to say i know that alexander is probably going to go into a slump the next couple of years. to many undedicated players we dont have a shot to compeat in the league if we don't step it up. but not my problem now im gone. all there is left is a great QB comming up. attica i believe is also losing alot to graduation but i exspect a good season out of them still. OA as well they always have a good team. ND showed it can rebound from graduation having a decent season after graduationg 15 seniors the year before when they won class DD sectionals but on the other hand i don't think they can do it again. the top will eb the ussal with attica OA and pembroke taking the top but i predict Attica to sneak out on top of GR with OA 6-1 and pembroke 5-2 the rest will sit in the bottom prolly in the order of Elba 4-3 alexander 3-4 ND 2-5 (maybe a switch between alexander and ND) and barker going another 0-7.
Snowboarder32
02-11-2008, 06:06 PM
well as sad as it is for me to say i know that alexander is probably going to go into a slump the next couple of years. to many undedicated players we dont have a shot to compeat in the league if we don't step it up. but not my problem now im gone. all there is left is a great QB comming up. attica i believe is also losing alot to graduation but i exspect a good season out of them still. OA as well they always have a good team. ND showed it can rebound from graduation having a decent season after graduationg 15 seniors the year before when they won class DD sectionals but on the other hand i don't think they can do it again. the top will eb the ussal with attica OA and pembroke taking the top but i predict Attica to sneak out on top of GR with OA 6-1 and pembroke 5-2 the rest will sit in the bottom prolly in the order of Elba 4-3 alexander 3-4 ND 2-5 (maybe a switch between alexander and ND) and barker going another 0-7.
I agree, it's gunna be a rough year next year :(
sectionvalum
02-11-2008, 06:47 PM
well as sad as it is for me to say i know that alexander is probably going to go into a slump the next couple of years. to many undedicated players we dont have a shot to compeat in the league if we don't step it up. but not my problem now im gone. all there is left is a great QB comming up. attica i believe is also losing alot to graduation but i exspect a good season out of them still. OA as well they always have a good team. ND showed it can rebound from graduation having a decent season after graduationg 15 seniors the year before when they won class DD sectionals but on the other hand i don't think they can do it again. the top will eb the ussal with attica OA and pembroke taking the top but i predict Attica to sneak out on top of GR with OA 6-1 and pembroke 5-2 the rest will sit in the bottom prolly in the order of Elba 4-3 alexander 3-4 ND 2-5 (maybe a switch between alexander and ND) and barker going another 0-7.
Who is Oakfield going to lose to and who will be Pembrokes two loses?
boobiemiles
02-11-2008, 08:48 PM
Who is Oakfield going to lose to and who will be Pembrokes two loses?
oakfield will lose to attica. pembroke losses to oa and attica.
alex-chunkx12
02-12-2008, 04:53 AM
oakfield will lose to attica. pembroke losses to oa and attica.
exactly i didnt think it was that hard to figure out
ref301
02-12-2008, 10:09 AM
well as sad as it is for me to say i know that alexander is probably going to go into a slump the next couple of years. to many undedicated players we dont have a shot to compeat in the league if we don't step it up. but not my problem now im gone. all there is left is a great QB comming up. attica i believe is also losing alot to graduation but i exspect a good season out of them still. OA as well they always have a good team. ND showed it can rebound from graduation having a decent season after graduationg 15 seniors the year before when they won class DD sectionals but on the other hand i don't think they can do it again. the top will eb the ussal with attica OA and pembroke taking the top but i predict Attica to sneak out on top of GR with OA 6-1 and pembroke 5-2 the rest will sit in the bottom prolly in the order of Elba 4-3 alexander 3-4 ND 2-5 (maybe a switch between alexander and ND) and barker going another 0-7.
Alexander hasn't won when they have had talent. 2 and 3 years ago certainly had the talent to compete for a Sectional title and in that time were able to go .500 in the GR and win 1 Sectional game. Totally underachieved. It is not a talent problem at Alexander it is a program development problem and it is not isolated to football. Football is however, the "marquee" program and gets all the attention.
sectionvalum
02-12-2008, 10:42 AM
exactly i didnt think it was that hard to figure out
Actually it was kind of a hard one to figure out since Oakfield lost only 6 seniors (2 that made an impact, maybe 3) and is returning 6 players from when they lost in the state championship including GR's best player in Chris Williams. I would say those are pretty good odds that you would have a good football team. I am not sure how good Attica will be but I wouldn't go saying Attica will take down Oakfield. Im sure you young guys could correct me on this but I dont think Attica has beat Oakfield since 2003????
alex-chunkx12
02-14-2008, 12:56 PM
Actually it was kind of a hard one to figure out since Oakfield lost only 6 seniors (2 that made an impact, maybe 3) and is returning 6 players from when they lost in the state championship including GR's best player in Chris Williams. I would say those are pretty good odds that you would have a good football team. I am not sure how good Attica will be but I wouldn't go saying Attica will take down Oakfield. Im sure you young guys could correct me on this but I dont think Attica has beat Oakfield since 2003????
doesn't matter when the last time Attica has beaten OA that was soon to be 5 years ago and there are no players left from that game. new seasons can always bring new competiton for all we know barker may come out of nowhere and win GR i know this is very unlikly but its all about dedication and will to win. i think attica has what it takes to beat OA and it will be a game i will love to see next season you never know what may happen in football also you are right about OA still being a power house no dout if they beat attica they will be the ones that go undefeated and win GR
bcherry8
02-14-2008, 01:13 PM
doesn't matter when the last time Attica has beaten OA that was soon to be 5 years ago and there are no players left from that game. new seasons can always bring new competiton for all we know barker may come out of nowhere and win GR i know this is very unlikly but its all about dedication and will to win. i think attica has what it takes to beat OA and it will be a game i will love to see next season you never know what may happen in football also you are right about OA still being a power house no dout if they beat attica they will be the ones that go undefeated and win GR
I think OA will go undefeated but i agree with the rest of your post, except for the possibility of Barker winning the GR, lol
UNCman5
02-16-2008, 06:52 PM
well as sad as it is for me to say i know that alexander is probably going to go into a slump the next couple of years. to many undedicated players we dont have a shot to compeat in the league if we don't step it up. but not my problem now im gone. all there is left is a great QB comming up. attica i believe is also losing alot to graduation but i exspect a good season out of them still. OA as well they always have a good team. ND showed it can rebound from graduation having a decent season after graduationg 15 seniors the year before when they won class DD sectionals but on the other hand i don't think they can do it again. the top will eb the ussal with attica OA and pembroke taking the top but i predict Attica to sneak out on top of GR with OA 6-1 and pembroke 5-2 the rest will sit in the bottom prolly in the order of Elba 4-3 alexander 3-4 ND 2-5 (maybe a switch between alexander and ND) and barker going another 0-7.
elba didnt win a game this year. with all the talent they had. haha who can they possibly beat next year?
GRBball2008
02-17-2008, 12:52 AM
They most likely won't win a game next year either.
UNCman5
02-17-2008, 09:29 AM
Alright i did not mean to be so blunt, let me explain myself further. I was an eye witness as a elba lancer football player for tony streb. His plays were juvenile at best and his playbook was at the level of pop warner football. They consisted of roughly 5 to 6 plays. Other teams had no problem calling out the plays due to the simplicity and predictability of his elementary tactics! He was handed a team of excelent athletes who were prepared to climb their way to the top. However, his practices were slow, dull, sluggish, unpreductive, predictable, repetitive and to be quite honest, a joke amoung football practices. Clearly he was the only man who applied for the job once held by a legend, the REAL coach himself, Joe Zambito!!!!
pretty much can't say it any better than that. it doesnt take a brainiac to understand that running a toss on your own one yard-line probably isnt the BRIGHTEST idea. and when you have an atheletic quarterback in rocco zambito, solid receivers like stucko, torpey and little zambito, a 6'5 tight end in hoover, a very strong and smart line, and a solid defense, you almost have to try and lose games, let alone go defeated. 0-8 in '08. my point here is elba lost 13 varsity starters. With streb at the reins...there wont be a program after next year.
bcherry8
02-17-2008, 09:32 AM
pretty much can't say it any better than that. it doesnt take a brainiac to understand that running a toss on your own one yard-line probably isnt the BRIGHTEST idea. and when you have an atheletic quarterback in rocco zambito, solid receivers like stucko, torpey and little zambito, a 6'5 tight end in hoover, a very strong and smart line, and a solid defense, you almost have to try and lose games, let alone go defeated. 0-8 in '08. my point here is elba lost 13 varsity starters. With streb at the reins...there wont be a program after next year.
Ouch, i dont know if i even wanna watch them play OA, thats gonna get ugly quick
sectionvalum
02-17-2008, 10:40 AM
Alright i did not mean to be so blunt, let me explain myself further. I was an eye witness as a elba lancer football player for tony streb. His plays were juvenile at best and his playbook was at the level of pop warner football. They consisted of roughly 5 to 6 plays. Other teams had no problem calling out the plays due to the simplicity and predictability of his elementary tactics! He was handed a team of excelent athletes who were prepared to climb their way to the top. However, his practices were slow, dull, sluggish, unpreductive, predictable, repetitive and to be quite honest, a joke amoung football practices. Clearly he was the only man who applied for the job once held by a legend, the REAL coach himself, Joe Zambito!!!!
I dont think the amount of plays have much to do with winning. A lot of people think variety is how you coach football so you keep the other team on their toes. However, Oakfield runs 5 plays: sweep, dive, counter, swing pass & fade. They seem to have gotten things done since Coach Dowd joined the school. Execution is the most important thing in football. I am not sure how Coach Streb's work ethic is but in his defense he was not handed a team of excelent athletes. He had a few good athletes that he didn't utilize correctly. If he and his team wasn't prepared each week for the team that they faced then yes he is at fault.
TurnTwo
02-17-2008, 10:56 AM
His plays were juvenile at best and his playbook was at the level of pop warner football. They consisted of roughly 5 to 6 plays.
Wasn't Casey Hoover quoted in the paper as saying that the offense was a "pro-style system" and that it was too complicated?
This is the opposite of what you're saying, so what was it?
Former GR Leaguer
02-17-2008, 12:21 PM
It makes you wonder how much the Elba players wanted to buy into Streb's program.
joeZam1
02-17-2008, 03:57 PM
Wasn't Casey Hoover quoted in the paper as saying that the offense was a "pro-style system" and that it was too complicated?
This is the opposite of what you're saying, so what was it?
No! Tony Steb was quoted as saying it may take the players awhile to adjust to his "college style" offense..sure Casey is upset, wouldnt you be...His sophomore year he caught more passes than he did his jr and sr. year combined. Listen, Nothing against tony, he may be a nice guy, but in my opinion, for one reason or another he was in a bad situation...But, he did have the players to succeed, Sam Ferrara, John Augello and myself really thought we had a chance to win another sectional title..With Guys like Hoover,Woodworth, Jed Torrey, Rocco Zambito, cody Torpey, Jim Vacanti,Justin Bird, Tim shuky..etc..I could go on and on..the talent was there, what happened after that, i cant figure it out..
joeZam1
02-17-2008, 03:59 PM
It makes you wonder how much the Elba players wanted to buy into Streb's program.
Come on, you dont bust your but in practice everyday to tank it...Get real
Wise Guy
02-17-2008, 09:12 PM
No! Tony Steb was quoted as saying it may take the players awhile to adjust to his "college style" offense..sure Casey is upset, wouldnt you be...His sophomore year he caught more passes than he did his jr and sr. year combined. Listen, Nothing against tony, he may be a nice guy, but in my opinion, for one reason or another he was in a bad situation...But, he did have the players to succeed, Sam Ferrara, John Augello and myself really thought we had a chance to win another sectional title..With Guys like Hoover,Woodworth, Jed Torrey, Rocco Zambito, cody Torpey, Jim Vacanti,Justin Bird, Tim shuky..etc..I could go on and on..the talent was there, what happened after that, i cant figure it out..
Maybe it had something to do with you continuing your weekly film review at your house for the last two years even though you were not the coach? The 08 senior got what they deserved they wouldnt play for streb all out of loyalty to you and what did it get them? Two years of misery and disappointment, nice job boys you really showed them all!
joeZam1
02-17-2008, 10:15 PM
Once again to set the record straight, When upset players show up on my doorstep, players that I care about am I supposed to slam the door in their face...dont think so, they came over 1 time and I tried to help motivate them into playing for streb, thats it..anything else is pure false speculation.
Former GR Leaguer
02-18-2008, 07:19 AM
Come on, you dont bust your but in practice everyday to tank it...Get real
Were you at their practices?
UNCman5
02-18-2008, 08:03 AM
Were you at their practices?
I was, and he's right.
UNCman5
02-18-2008, 08:10 AM
Maybe it had something to do with you continuing your weekly film review at your house for the last two years even though you were not the coach? The 08 senior got what they deserved they wouldnt play for streb all out of loyalty to you and what did it get them? Two years of misery and disappointment, nice job boys you really showed them all!
We got what we deserved? Obviously you've never played a high school sport and had you're last two years DESTROYED because of people who to this day won't admit they made a horrible mistake. And to say we didnt play for streb out of Joe's loyalty is absolutly ludicris. When you have a coach who in the middle of practice, tells everyone to run because someone jumps offsides, and then when we get back KICKS us off the field with an hour and a half still remaining, not to mention the day before a home game, that's not going to get kids motivated to want to do things his way. And you people say that Joe was a bad coach because of his "lack of control". Not once as having him as a coach did he ever just kick us off of the field in the middle of a practice. Streb did that twice in two years. Maybe that's the reason kids didn't want to play for him. So, nice job parents and officals that wanted Joe gone, we went DEFEATED the last year we got to play. "You really showed them all!"
bcherry8
02-18-2008, 10:22 AM
No! Tony Steb was quoted as saying it may take the players awhile to adjust to his "college style" offense..sure Casey is upset, wouldnt you be...His sophomore year he caught more passes than he did his jr and sr. year combined. Listen, Nothing against tony, he may be a nice guy, but in my opinion, for one reason or another he was in a bad situation...But, he did have the players to succeed, Sam Ferrara, John Augello and myself really thought we had a chance to win another sectional title..With Guys like Hoover,Woodworth, Jed Torrey, Rocco Zambito, cody Torpey, Jim Vacanti,Justin Bird, Tim shuky..etc..I could go on and on..the talent was there, what happened after that, i cant figure it out..
And oddly enough, he had his superb sophomore season when you were still the coach. Imagine that. If not for Streb, think of how interesting it could have been last year with Elba in the mix for the league title as well as OA, Pembroke, and Attica. A Zambito-coached team would have been a contender, not winless like a Streb-coached team.
Former GR Leaguer
02-18-2008, 11:35 AM
I was, and he's right.
I don't believe I was asking you.
However, if you're going to let some other folks' "mistake" destroy your last two years of high school sports for you, well, that's your decision I guess.
alex-chunkx12
02-18-2008, 11:59 AM
elba didnt win a game this year. with all the talent they had. haha who can they possibly beat next year?
it was only his second year as head coach right? they still have to learn and i think the best thing that could have ever happened to elba was their seniors being suspended. those mods that got pulled up i believe were a hell of a lot better than the original team they have alot of heart and i think they will easily beat elba and nd next season and they will prolly sneak one out of alexander and who knows who their non-league game will be
Section5sportsguy
02-18-2008, 12:02 PM
i think they will easily beat elba and nd next season and they will prolly sneak one out of alexander and who knows who their non-league game will be
How can Elba defeat Elba?
DSport
02-18-2008, 12:31 PM
How can Elba defeat Elba?
If Elba played Elba, one of the two Elbas would get a win.
joeZam1
02-18-2008, 12:51 PM
I don't believe I was asking you.
However, if you're going to let some other folks' "mistake" destroy your last two years of high school sports for you, well, that's your decision I guess.
But hes the one that was on the field not YOU...First hand experience over hear say???
sgtpepper499
02-18-2008, 02:09 PM
I also have been coached by both Streb and Coach Joe. Under Tony Streb their was no team unity at all. When I played for Coach Joe, everyone on the team was family. And i can guarantee that 98% of the 08 Elba football team feels the same way.Tony Streb is a joke
Former GR Leaguer
02-18-2008, 02:32 PM
But hes the one that was on the field not YOU...First hand experience over hear say???
Last I checked, the players on the field win the games, not the coaches, so maybe he and his teammates need to look at their own efforts before pointing fingers at the coaching staff.
Back to my original question, were you at the practices?
TurnTwo
02-18-2008, 02:34 PM
Last I checked, the players on the field win the games, not the coaches, so maybe he and his teammates need to look at their own efforts before pointing fingers at the coaching staff.
Did Tony Streb commit seven turnovers against Attica in Week 1 or did I miss something?
joeZam1
02-18-2008, 02:39 PM
Last I checked, the players on the field win the games, not the coaches, so maybe he and his teammates need to look at their own efforts before pointing fingers at the coaching staff.
Back to my original question, were you at the practices?
were you? and Players do win the games, coaches lose them.
GRBball2008
02-18-2008, 02:40 PM
Are you kidding me? Do you think that the coaching has nothing to do with it? They players wanted to win and if you think that the players lack of effort was what caused them not to win you are sadly mistaken. The players put the effort in but there was no results! Why would a team that was filled with talent had the potential to win sectionals, and put in a ton of effort not be able to win a game...
UNCman5
02-18-2008, 02:44 PM
Are you kidding me? Do you think that the coaching has nothing to do with it? They players wanted to win and if you think that the players lack of effort was what caused them not to win you are sadly mistaken. The players put the effort in but there was no results! Why would a team that was filled with talent had the potential to win sectionals, and put in a ton of effort not be able to win a game...
....coaching.
UNCman5
02-18-2008, 02:47 PM
Last I checked, the players on the field win the games, not the coaches, so maybe he and his teammates need to look at their own efforts before pointing fingers at the coaching staff.
Back to my original question, were you at the practices?
Last i checked, coaches call the plays, not the players. so maybe you need to look at the coaches efforts before pointing fingers at the players.
joeZam1
02-18-2008, 03:09 PM
Agreed..remember coaches call the plays, the players have to execute them, that starts in practice and how many times have you heard..You play how you Practice, attitude included.
Maddox08
02-18-2008, 03:21 PM
Agreed..remember coaches call the plays, the players have to execute them, that starts in practice and how many times have you heard..You play how you Practice, attitude included.
That is exactly the point. The seniors on our team were disrespectful and practiced at there pace. Were you in the locker room did you have to hear all the laughs and put downs towards the coach? I didnt think so! As i said they got what they deserved yes you play how you practice and the seniors practice and attitude sums up our season. You have to look at yourself and not the coach for the blame. Some talent was over looked by attitude and disrespect. I was alway taught that you had to give respect to gain it - it is not hard to see that respect was never present. I dont think it was tony strebs i think the seniors would have dissed anyone just to prove the point. and again where did it get you? a smile on your former coaches face and a big fat 0 for a record!
Section5sportsguy
02-18-2008, 03:23 PM
That is exactly the point. The seniors on our team were disrespectful and practiced at there pace. Were you in the locker room did you have to hear all the laughs and put downs towards the coach? I didnt think so! As i said they got what they deserved yes you play how you practice and the seniors practice and attitude sums up our season. You have to look at yourself and not the coach for the blame. Some talent was over looked by attitude and disrespect. I was alway taught that you had to give respect to gain it - it is not hard to see that respect was never present. I dont think it was tony strebs i think the seniors would have dissed anyone just to prove the point. and again where did it get you? a smile on your former coaches face and a big fat 0 for a record!
hah, burnnnn.
Former GR Leaguer
02-18-2008, 03:24 PM
were you? and Players do win the games, coaches lose them.
Don't dodge the question. If you were at the practices and witnessed their effort, fine. But don't you think being at the practices of Elba's team would create a conflict of interest for your former players, having their beloved former coach there while their new coach is trying to teach?
If you weren't at the practice, then you're accusation of my "hear say" seems a little hypocritical.
Judging by the fact that they won sectionals the year before Streb took over, I would think they would have pretty good practice habits. How they managed to let these habits go stagnant after one year is beyond me. Laziness? Indifference? Some kind of misguided revolt against the school board because you got fired? Who knows?
joeZam1
02-18-2008, 03:24 PM
Smiling I wasnt as I saw talent go down the drain, i was disgusted!
joeZam1
02-18-2008, 03:27 PM
Don't dodge the question. If you were at the practices and witnessed their effort, fine. But don't you think being at the practices of Elba's team would create a conflict of interest for your former players, having their beloved former coach there while their new coach is trying to teach?
If you weren't at the practice, then you're accusation of my "hear say" seems a little hypocritical.
Judging by the fact that they won sectionals the year before Streb took over, I would think they would have pretty good practice habits. How they managed to let these habits go stagnant after one year is beyond me. Laziness? Indifference? Some kind of misguided revolt against the school board because you got fired? Who knows?
You asking me if I was at practice is a pretty dumb question. AND if I didnt care I couldve let practice go when I was coaching, but we didnt let it happen. so now that i answered your question, were you at practice? And I love how you hide behind your screen name, howd you do in HS, play much?
Maddox08
02-18-2008, 03:28 PM
Smiling I wasnt as I saw talent go down the drain, i was disgusted!
Trust me I saw the smile PERSONALLY! This was exactley what you wanted to happen, you couldn't have written it any better and maybe you should have told your seniors "how you realy felt (yeah right)" and maybe they would have practiced and played better!
joeZam1
02-18-2008, 03:33 PM
oh heah, u know exactly how i feel..right, remember believe only half of what u see, could you feel how i felt as well, maybe i was laughing at a joke, or abad play or a bad call, or something coach ferrara told me etc....I wasnt happy god, give it a rest.
Former GR Leaguer
02-18-2008, 03:49 PM
You asking me if I was at practice is a pretty dumb question. AND if I didnt care I couldve let practice go when I was coaching, but we didnt let it happen. so now that i answered your question, were you at practice? And I love how you hide behind your screen name, howd you do in HS, play much?
I don't see how its a dumb question. You stated they busted their tails in practice while being coached by Streb, I just wanted to find out how you knew that. To answer your questions:
1.) Was I at practice? No, I have better things to do than watch Elba practice football.
2.) Play much? Let's see. Two sectional titles in basketball, two sectional titles in baseball, GR All Star/2nd team AGR/first team all-state in hoops, GR All Star/second team all-state in football, 11 points in the Ronald McDonald game, and a touchdown in the Eddie Meath game. Nah, I pretty much sucked.
joeZam1
02-18-2008, 03:57 PM
I don't see how its a dumb question. You stated they busted their tails in practice while being coached by Streb, I just wanted to find out how you knew that. To answer your questions:
1.) Was I at practice? No, I have better things to do than watch Elba practice football.
2.) Play much? Let's see. Two sectional titles in basketball, two sectional titles in baseball, GR All Star/2nd team AGR/first team all-state in hoops, GR All Star/second team all-state in football, 11 points in the Ronald McDonald game, and a touchdown in the Eddie Meath game. Nah, I pretty much sucked.
Im glad that i got your attention! Impressive resume, with those credentials, you know how hard football practice can be. Now, lets see if we can get along...Read This! I have no personal problem with Tony Streb, he didnt do anything to me, I wished him well and offered him my help off the record..I wanted the team to do well..If you know me, I CARE bigtime for the kids that do bust their butt. Now, If they didnt work hard, whos fault is it, it isnt mine, it isnt yours, its a combo of factors,but I did want to see those boys do well...Ask Rick Pcionek, the current bball coach, Id love to see them win Sectionals, im 100% behind them..when home from florida i went to games and cheered them on, they have my support...Its just awefull frustrating to watch what i watched on the football field, blown opportunities stink thats all...Congrats on ur great highschool career.
Former GR Leaguer
02-18-2008, 04:11 PM
Congrats on ur great highschool career.
Thanks. You asked.....
lancers14te
02-18-2008, 04:12 PM
This whole thing was just a horrible situation in general to be completely honest. It was a lose lose for everyone. That's how I look at it.
TurnTwo
02-18-2008, 04:33 PM
This whole thing was just a horrible situation in general to be completely honest. It was a lose lose for everyone. That's how I look at it.
Actually lose lose lose lose lose lose lose. :p
Section5sportsguy
02-18-2008, 05:29 PM
I don't see how its a dumb question. You stated they busted their tails in practice while being coached by Streb, I just wanted to find out how you knew that. To answer your questions:
1.) Was I at practice? No, I have better things to do than watch Elba practice football.
2.) Play much? Let's see. Two sectional titles in basketball, two sectional titles in baseball, GR All Star/2nd team AGR/first team all-state in hoops, GR All Star/second team all-state in football, 11 points in the Ronald McDonald game, and a touchdown in the Eddie Meath game. Nah, I pretty much sucked.
Right, and I turned down a USC football scholarship to play at Morrisville, just to be close to home.
Former GR Leaguer
02-18-2008, 06:33 PM
Right, and I turned down a USC football scholarship to play at Morrisville, just to be close to home.
Sorry kid, but its true.
easyrsaidthandone
02-18-2008, 06:38 PM
This whole thing has me intrigued, and we know im a coach joe supporter, but who are you former gr. You are some athlete, great career.
Levelheaded
02-18-2008, 06:57 PM
I don't see how its a dumb question. You stated they busted their tails in practice while being coached by Streb, I just wanted to find out how you knew that. To answer your questions:
1.) Was I at practice? No, I have better things to do than watch Elba practice football.
2.) Play much? Let's see. Two sectional titles in basketball, two sectional titles in baseball, GR All Star/2nd team AGR/first team all-state in hoops, GR All Star/second team all-state in football, 11 points in the Ronald McDonald game, and a touchdown in the Eddie Meath game. Nah, I pretty much sucked.
Big deal...I was drafted by Major League Baseball out of high school, made all-stars in high school, played college ball...know what that means as relates to the Elba situation? Nothing. Your high school career means nothing either as relates to Elba...the fact remains that many on this year's team had great work ethic at practice under Joe Z. If that got lost under the new coach it was his fault...high school kids are just that...kids. Any high school team's on field results are a direct reflection of their coach, win or lose. I lose my "levelheadedness" when I keep reading comments from people who are hell-bent on blaming one person so much yet don't hold the "new guy" accountable. Trust me, ND, Attica, Oakfield wold have loved to have had some of these kis on their teams.
bcherry8
02-18-2008, 06:58 PM
Right, and I turned down a USC football scholarship to play at Morrisville, just to be close to home.
Its pretty hard to make something up with as many precise details as he has there. I would like to know who he is too
bcherry8
02-18-2008, 07:02 PM
Big deal...I was drafted by Major League Baseball out of high school, made all-stars in high school, played college ball...know what that means as relates to the Elba situation? Nothing. Your high school career means nothing either as relates to Elba...the fact remains that many on this year's team had great work ethic at practice under Joe Z. If that got lost under the new coach it was his fault...high school kids are just that...kids. Any high school team's on field results are a direct reflection of their coach, win or lose. I lose my "levelheadedness" when I keep reading comments from people who are hell-bent on blaming one person so much yet don't hold the "new guy" accountable. Trust me, ND, Attica, Oakfield wold have loved to have had some of these kis on their teams.
I can agree. Why would you not want someone like Casey Hoover on your team who is a 6'5 tight end with good hands? And Cody Torpey is a speedster who can play more than one position.
Section5sportsguy
02-18-2008, 07:34 PM
Its pretty hard to make something up with as many precise details as he has there. I would like to know who he is too
Haha yeah, they were pretty precise, and I do pretty much believe him, its just hard to tell who's who on this site sometimes.
Former GR Leaguer
02-18-2008, 07:47 PM
Big deal...I was drafted by Major League Baseball out of high school, made all-stars in high school, played college ball...know what that means as relates to the Elba situation? Nothing. Your high school career means nothing either as relates to Elba...the fact remains that many on this year's team had great work ethic at practice under Joe Z. If that got lost under the new coach it was his fault...high school kids are just that...kids. Any high school team's on field results are a direct reflection of their coach, win or lose. I lose my "levelheadedness" when I keep reading comments from people who are hell-bent on blaming one person so much yet don't hold the "new guy" accountable. Trust me, ND, Attica, Oakfield wold have loved to have had some of these kis on their teams.
I don't recall saying my playing experience had anything to do with the Elba situation. I more or less just answered a question that was asked of me relating to how much playing experience I had in high school.
Major league draftee huh? Is this Pete Selden? If so man, you used to bring the heat. Good three-point shooter too.
Attica Coach
02-18-2008, 08:12 PM
Did Tony Streb commit seven turnovers against Attica in Week 1 or did I miss something?
What a great point!
Coaches can prepare and scheme all day long, but it comes down to players executing on the field. Great players can overcome poor coaching, but it is difficult for good coaching to overcome poor players.
Section5sportsguy
02-18-2008, 08:14 PM
What a great point!
Coaches can prepare and scheme all day long, but it comes down to players executing on the field. Great players can overcome poor coaching, but it is difficult for good coaching to overcome poor players.
Very well said, and from a math teacher! Wow
joeZam1
02-18-2008, 08:29 PM
What a great point!
Coaches can prepare and scheme all day long, but it comes down to players executing on the field. Great players can overcome poor coaching, but it is difficult for good coaching to overcome poor players.
True to a point, and with all due respect, execution starts in practice, it takes great players and good coaches to be successful. I will be the first to tell you that we would of never been as successfull as we were if it were not for great players AND good players who were willing to give me everything they had.
Attica Coach
02-18-2008, 08:33 PM
True to a point, and with all due respect, execution starts in practice, it takes great players and good coaches to be successful. I will be the first to tell you that we would of never been as successfull as we were if it were not for great players AND good players who were willing to give me everything they had.
I agree that execution starts in practice. I have no idea what went on or goes on with regards to Elba, so I won't begin to speak on that. My point is just that good players can overcome bad coaching. I am not saying this in relation to Elba, just a general statement.
joeZam1
02-18-2008, 08:44 PM
Trust me I saw the smile PERSONALLY! This was exactley what you wanted to happen, you couldn't have written it any better and maybe you should have told your seniors "how you realy felt (yeah right)" and maybe they would have practiced and played better!
I've smiled at wakes and funerals chief, it does not mean that Im happy about it.
TurnTwo
02-18-2008, 10:50 PM
FormerGRLeaguer is Tony Streb.
GR - Greater Rochester.
3,737 career rushing yards at Hilton Academy.
GRBball2008
02-19-2008, 08:26 AM
FormerGRLeaguer is Tony Streb.
GR - Greater Rochester.
3,737 career rushing yards at Hilton Academy.
Hmmm.... Is that just a guess or do you know for sure?
conors72
02-19-2008, 09:43 AM
the GR has alot of good ball for being how small the schools are..........Lets here what ya'll think
brian hillabush-bill bruton jr.
Section5sportsguy
02-19-2008, 11:40 AM
Hmmm.... Is that just a guess or do you know for sure?
OOOOO you ELba boys are in trouble!!
Maddox08
02-19-2008, 12:08 PM
OOOOO you ELba boys are in trouble!!
Well if it is tony streb then Stucko (GRBball 2008, sgtpepper499) Hoover (UNCman5, lancers14te) Rocco (Shootthe3, led2FAILUREin2008) your covers have been blown. i guess coach knows how you realy feel (like he didnt know before). Go ahead and now you can deny who you are we wouldnt expect anything else from you! and coach joe you are so BIG on sports careers, what were your acomplishments in high school? we will have to do some looking on the internet for those stats if any exists.
joeZam1
02-19-2008, 12:32 PM
My HS career has what to do with the price of tea in china? And Im not hiding behind any screenames, so whats your deal? But, to satisfy you, my career went something like this...2 yrs varsity bball..senior yr captain--averaged about 6pts and 7/8 rebs.per game nothing special, but had fun with a great coach! Started just about everygame and played alot, in football however I was named to the gr allstar team as offensive tackle, played defensive end, but not much, man we had a great team, and great coaches.(heres a tidbit..coach ferrara was on the staff..lol) we won sectionals didnt lose a game beat everbody by at least 14 and was probably the best football TEAM in ecs history..was asked to play in the eddie meath game, but didnt because even though I was being recruited, I realized that High school football was what I loved...anything else you want to know?? boxers, ford taurus, brown eyes, 6-4, overweight, beautiful fiance...etc....Oh yeah..A GREAT FAMILY!!!!!! AND GREAT FRIENDS--who of course i consider family.:D
sectionvalum
02-19-2008, 12:58 PM
My HS career has what to do with the price of tea in china? And Im not hiding behind any screenames, so whats your deal? But, to satisfy you, my career went something like this...2 yrs varsity bball..senior yr captain--averaged about 6pts and 7/8 rebs.per game nothing special, but had fun with a great coach! Started just about everygame and played alot, in football however I was named to the gr allstar team as offensive tackle, played defensive end, but not much, man we had a great team, and great coaches.(heres a tidbit..coach ferrara was on the staff..lol) we won sectionals didnt lose a game beat everbody by at least 14 and was probably the best football TEAM in ecs history..was asked to play in the eddie meath game, but didnt because even though I was being recruited, I realized that High school football was what I loved...anything else you want to know?? boxers, ford taurus, brown eyes, 6-4, overweight, beautiful fiance...etc....Oh yeah..A GREAT FAMILY!!!!!! AND GREAT FRIENDS--who of course i consider family.:D
LMAO....you spelled fiancé wrong...j/k
Its always fun to look back in what you did in high school but you will always be remembered as an amazing coach who got all he could out of his football players on and off the field. I used to get so pissed at you in high school but thats because you used to kick our tail up and down the field. Now that I have grown I can see what you accomplished and how you built Elba into a powerhouse.
joeZam1
02-19-2008, 01:13 PM
funny stuff!! Im laughing my a##off right now..Dont know who you are, but thanks for the props, introduce yourself to me, next time you see me in batavia and I will buy you a pop and we can talk about old times..
Former GR Leaguer
02-19-2008, 03:33 PM
FormerGRLeaguer is Tony Streb.
GR - Greater Rochester.
3,737 career rushing yards at Hilton Academy.
Good guess, but wrong. The GR is for Genesee Region.
I'm just a has-been who likes to live in the past once in a while I guess. If you really need to find out who I am, do a little research, I'm sure you can figure it out. Most of you high school kids were in 1st or 2nd grade when I was playing (there's your free hint). If you really have nothing better to do (and really, I mean NOTHING better to do), go to the Richmond Library in Batavia, they probably have the old newspaper articles on microfilm. They did when I was doing research projects for high school.
I almost wish I hadn't answered the question about my playing experience, but oh well, I was asked and I answered. Sounds like Mr. Zambito had quite the high school career himself, so I'll return the congrats to him. I have to ask though, how could you pass up the Eddie Meath game?
joeZam1
02-19-2008, 03:43 PM
thank you, otis? I wish I wouldve played in the meath game, but at the time, I was a young senior, in love and done playing football..bad choice i no. glad we could take the gloves off and be civilizied:)
Former GR Leaguer
02-19-2008, 03:57 PM
thank you, otis? I wish I wouldve played in the meath game, but at the time, I was a young senior, in love and done playing football..bad choice i no. glad we could take the gloves off and be civilizied:)
I look at our back and forth as a mixture of debates/difference of opinion/misunderstanding, but well-meaning and civilized, nothing more nothing less. Thank you for the reply.
And nope, not Otis.
boobiemiles
02-19-2008, 04:30 PM
Well if it is tony streb then Stucko (GRBball 2008, sgtpepper499) Hoover (UNCman5, lancers14te) Rocco (Shootthe3, led2FAILUREin2008) your covers have been blown. i guess coach knows how you realy feel (like he didnt know before). Go ahead and now you can deny who you are we wouldnt expect anything else from you! and coach joe you are so BIG on sports careers, what were your acomplishments in high school? we will have to do some looking on the internet for those stats if any exists.
hahahahahahahahaha. we all knew pretty much who they were but thanks for making it so clear now
shootthe3
02-19-2008, 04:40 PM
Well if it is tony streb then Stucko (GRBball 2008, sgtpepper499) Hoover (UNCman5, lancers14te) Rocco (Shootthe3, led2FAILUREin2008) your covers have been blown. i guess coach knows how you realy feel (like he didnt know before). Go ahead and now you can deny who you are we wouldnt expect anything else from you! and coach joe you are so BIG on sports careers, what were your acomplishments in high school? we will have to do some looking on the internet for those stats if any exists.
good try bud but i dont even know Rocco Zambito just seen a few of his games so guess again
Section5sportsguy
02-19-2008, 06:43 PM
funny stuff!! Im laughing my a##off right now..Dont know who you are, but thanks for the props, introduce yourself to me, next time you see me in batavia and I will buy you a pop and we can talk about old times..
Haha Joe I know you're a good guy now, but back in your coaching days I may have cursed at you or wanted the refs to "T" you up when you coached against Attica. Good times.
TurnTwo
02-19-2008, 07:46 PM
Haha Joe I know you're a good guy now, but back in your coaching days I may have cursed at you or wanted the refs to "T" you up when you coached against Attica. Good times.
You always stood too far onto the court for our liking.
learnTohateme
02-20-2008, 10:20 AM
Well if it is tony streb then Stucko (GRBball 2008, sgtpepper499) Hoover (UNCman5, lancers14te) Rocco (Shootthe3, led2FAILUREin2008) your covers have been blown. i guess coach knows how you realy feel (like he didnt know before). Go ahead and now you can deny who you are we wouldnt expect anything else from you! and coach joe you are so BIG on sports careers, what were your acomplishments in high school? we will have to do some looking on the internet for those stats if any exists.
All you guys need to get a life hey maddox08 you should be a detective you have a whole lot of time on your hands. It is not a secret the man from elba really doesnt know what he is doing , as soon as he said yes to that job he made a mistake, but i bet the AD and ogeen talk him in to it he got what he desearved and this year wont be any different.....so all you people that said those players wanted to lose because of Joe Z what excuse you gonna have this year they are all graduted maybe all you elba fans will realize how good a job that guy did(joe z)........all you that are jealouse start thinking of more excuses because football is right around the cornor.......and i think joe had the biggest accomplishment of all the sectional title....How about you maddox08 what do you have?????Just alot of time on your hand wasting it on here. dont worry about other people just take care of you own.....
sectionvalum
02-20-2008, 10:35 AM
All you guys need to get a life hey maddox08 you should be a detective you have a whole lot of time on your hands. It is not a secret the man from elba really doesnt know what he is doing , as soon as he said yes to that job he made a mistake, but i bet the AD and ogeen talk him in to it he got what he desearved and this year wont be any different.....so all you people that said those players wanted to lose because of Joe Z what excuse you gonna have this year they are all graduted maybe all you elba fans will realize how good a job that guy did(joe z)........all you that are jealouse start thinking of more excuses because football is right around the cornor.......and i think joe had the biggest accomplishment of all the sectional title....How about you maddox08 what do you have?????Just alot of time on your hand wasting it on here. dont worry about other people just take care of you own.....
I am getting really sick of everybody ripping Coach Streb. I am sure he was well aware of the situation at hand when he took the position. Elba is definitely split on this decision. Many parents and faculty wanted to see Coach Joe gone and many wanted him to stay. I dont think it is Coach Streb's fault that Joe was railroaded out of his position and the town. Big deal if he wasnt the right man for the job or if his coaching abilities aren't up to par with Joe. It wouldnt have mattered if the town brought in Joe Paterno you still would have had half the town bitching about it. Last time I checked it was better to be at least playing football than not having a team at all.
learnTohateme
02-20-2008, 11:35 AM
I am getting really sick of everybody ripping Coach Streb. I am sure he was well aware of the situation at hand when he took the position. Elba is definitely split on this decision. Many parents and faculty wanted to see Coach Joe gone and many wanted him to stay. I dont think it is Coach Streb's fault that Joe was railroaded out of his position and the town. Big deal if he wasnt the right man for the job or if his coaching abilities aren't up to par with Joe. It wouldnt have mattered if the town brought in Joe Paterno you still would have had half the town bitching about it. Last time I checked it was better to be at least playing football than not having a team at all.
I am not ripping him at all, he might be a great coach but the situation he walk into was not to smart..why do you think nobody else wanted it for that reason. To start your head coaching carrer there wasnt to smart at all thats why all the other coaches in section 5 stayed away.....and if things go the way they are elba wont have football. and that will be a shame.
sectionvalum
02-20-2008, 11:43 AM
I am not ripping him at all, he might be a great coach but the situation he walk into was not to smart..why do you think nobody else wanted it for that reason. To start your head coaching carrer there wasnt to smart at all thats why all the other coaches in section 5 stayed away.....and if things go the way they are elba wont have football. and that will be a shame.
You weren't ripping him huh...."It is not a secret the man from elba really doesnt know what he is doing" If thats not ripping him then I can't imagine what your definition is. I wasn't singling you out BTW. My main point was at least he had the guts to step in and field a team so the kids could play, even if that wasn't his intention.
learnTohateme
02-20-2008, 12:05 PM
You weren't ripping him huh...."It is not a secret the man from elba really doesnt know what he is doing" If thats not ripping him then I can't imagine what your definition is. I wasn't singling you out BTW. My main point was at least he had the guts to step in and field a team so the kids could play, even if that wasn't his intention.
NO i wasnt ,taking that job wasnt to smart... now was it. I just tell the truth. that not ripping the guy i blame Elba---the admin.,AD, Thats who i am ripping, has nothing to do with guts but it has everything to do with stupidity i hope he got payed well by elba for the way they threw him to the wolfes he should thank them.....this is old news dont waste my time
GRBball2008
02-20-2008, 03:52 PM
Well if it is tony streb then Stucko (GRBball 2008, sgtpepper499) Hoover (UNCman5, lancers14te) Rocco (Shootthe3, led2FAILUREin2008) your covers have been blown. i guess coach knows how you realy feel (like he didnt know before). Go ahead and now you can deny who you are we wouldnt expect anything else from you! and coach joe you are so BIG on sports careers, what were your acomplishments in high school? we will have to do some looking on the internet for those stats if any exists.
I have no problem admitting that I am Stucko but I am not sgtpepper so don't accuse me of that. And I have no problem admitting what I said. I am a Joe Zambito supporter and beleive that possibly the greatest coach in the history of Elba athletics got completely screwed. And this is nothing personal against Tony Streb. He is a nice guy who was put into a bad situation. And maybe if you feel the need to call other people out then you should stop hiding behind your name. It seems a bit hypocritical to me. Almost like the Woodwoth suspension incident at Elba huh? A person said I saw Ian smoking and then his accuser wouldn't say who they were...Personally I think it's a gutless move to put other peoples reputation on the line while you remain anonymous but hey if you can sleep at night whatever works for you.
boobiemiles
02-20-2008, 07:11 PM
I have no problem admitting that I am Stucko but I am not sgtpepper so don't accuse me of that. And I have no problem admitting what I said. I am a Joe Zambito supporter and beleive that possibly the greatest coach in the history of Elba athletics got completely screwed.
you want to know what makes him the greatest coach in elba... He was an unbelievably good football coach, and at the same time he was an unbelievably good basketball coach... the two sports which require the most strategy and focus, and joe was the best at both. at the same time
Section5sportsguy
02-20-2008, 07:16 PM
you want to know what makes him the greatest coach in elba... He was an unbelievably good football coach, and at the same time he was an unbelievably good basketball coach... the two sports which require the most strategy and focus, and joe was the best at both. at the same time
No, football is played in the fall and basketball is played in the winter. Two different time periods.
boobiemiles
02-20-2008, 07:17 PM
o shoot. my bad..... how could i forget that.....
TheMaddBomber
02-21-2008, 11:48 AM
That is exactly the point. The seniors on our team were disrespectful and practiced at there pace. Were you in the locker room did you have to hear all the laughs and put downs towards the coach? I didnt think so! As i said they got what they deserved yes you play how you practice and the seniors practice and attitude sums up our season. You have to look at yourself and not the coach for the blame. Some talent was over looked by attitude and disrespect. I was alway taught that you had to give respect to gain it - it is not hard to see that respect was never present. I dont think it was tony strebs i think the seniors would have dissed anyone just to prove the point. and again where did it get you? a smile on your former coaches face and a big fat 0 for a record!
k so where do i start? i will start with respect tony streb did not earn my or any of his other players respect this year just cause the seniors are the only ones with enough balls to say anything mostly cause we never have to play for him again (thank god)! so yes true his players didnt respect him but thats his own fault.
TheMaddBomber
02-21-2008, 12:13 PM
also to say i got wat i desrved is bull. yes i am loyal to joe zambito but did that make me put forth less efort no becuase i still want to win so i busted my ass all season fought through injuries and got nothing but inuslted by coaches and other members of the school faculty so yeah i didnt get anything i desrved, cause ya know wat i desrved all stars! and thanks to tony streb i didnt even get nominated in fact he actually lowered my recorded tackles from my last game. he takes away what i busted my ass to do is that what i deserve? so before u make these claims think about it because it comes down to the fact that tony streb is a joke!
Maddox08
02-21-2008, 02:36 PM
first i was on the team and like many others didnt have a problem with streb. some of you seniors were down right nasty to him. you created the respect issue and it wouldnt matter who came to coach your minds were made up. you not getting allstars had nothing to do with streb it is school policy that anyone who is suspended because of code of conduct makes them ineligible for any awards or allstars. so you can blame your self for that. finally you need to quit blaming everyone else for your choices and actions and get over the fact that two years ago you lost your coach life does go on.
boobiemiles
02-21-2008, 02:44 PM
also to say i got wat i desrved is bull. yes i am loyal to joe zambito but did that make me put forth less efort no becuase i still want to win so i busted my ass all season fought through injuries and got nothing but inuslted by coaches and other members of the school faculty so yeah i didnt get anything i desrved, cause ya know wat i desrved all stars! and thanks to tony streb i didnt even get nominated in fact he actually lowered my recorded tackles from my last game. he takes away what i busted my ass to do is that what i deserve? so before u make these claims think about it because it comes down to the fact that tony streb is a joke!
1) at least you are saying what you mean and not beating around the bush like everybody else...
2) Who are you. you have enough guts to say that so you should be able to say who you are then. not to mention i'm sure we all want to know
-god-
02-21-2008, 03:06 PM
OOOOO you ELba boys are in trouble!!
What else is new?
easyrsaidthandone
02-21-2008, 03:12 PM
first i was on the team and like many others didnt have a problem with streb. some of you seniors were down right nasty to him. you created the respect issue and it wouldnt matter who came to coach your minds were made up. you not getting allstars had nothing to do with streb it is school policy that anyone who is suspended because of code of conduct makes them ineligible for any awards or allstars. so you can blame your self for that. finally you need to quit blaming everyone else for your choices and actions and get over the fact that two years ago you lost your coach life does go on.
Thanks Tony....Streb lost more games in 2 years than zambito did in 7. theres a thought to ponder
joeZam1
02-21-2008, 03:46 PM
Thanks boobie, colin and all others for the compliments..I appreciate them, its now only a matter of time before oldschool gets on here with his old whistle and bashes me as he and all other haters hide behind screen names. Im here to tell ya, I couldnt please everyone, just tried to make it fun, while we were winning. A few parents said the kids didnt care about winning...I balk at that comment..that usually comes from a disgruntled parent whose kid doesnt play..little do they know the kid was probably having fun..anyway, Im waiting oldschool lets see who you are. oh yeah and once again I must say, id rather have ya love me than hate me, but if you hate me..you dont know me.:p
conors72
02-21-2008, 05:24 PM
meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh meh ................meh
TheMaddBomber
02-21-2008, 08:26 PM
1) at least you are saying what you mean and not beating around the bush like everybody else...
2) Who are you. you have enough guts to say that so you should be able to say who you are then. not to mention i'm sure we all want to know
oh yeah i got enough guts for alot of things haha so yeah my name is nick stucko
GRBball2008
02-21-2008, 08:30 PM
haha damn straight
bcherry8
02-21-2008, 08:35 PM
Thanks boobie, colin and all others for the compliments..I appreciate them, its now only a matter of time before oldschool gets on here with his old whistle and bashes me as he and all other haters hide behind screen names. Im here to tell ya, I couldnt please everyone, just tried to make it fun, while we were winning. A few parents said the kids didnt care about winning...I balk at that comment..that usually comes from a disgruntled parent whose kid doesnt play..little do they know the kid was probably having fun..anyway, Im waiting oldschool lets see who you are. oh yeah and once again I must say, id rather have ya love me than hate me, but if you hate me..you dont know me.:p
Anytime, i used to look forward to OA-Elba games being close and evenly contested, but that wont be possible with Streb as the coach. And about OldSchool78, he's from Rochester, he's one of those guys like rockandroll34 who like senselessly bashing the GR League and Batavia High School (although the BHS bashing is more of rockandroll's thing than oldschool's)
lancers14te
02-21-2008, 08:38 PM
Anytime, i used to look forward to OA-Elba games being close and evenly contested, but that wont be possible with Streb as the coach. And about OldSchool78, he's from Rochester, he's one of those guys like rockandroll34 who like senselessly bashing the GR League and Batavia High School (although the BHS bashing is more of rockandroll's thing than oldschool's)
you're not bad cherry. haha
lancers14te
02-21-2008, 08:39 PM
haha damn straight
the girls won tonight??
bcherry8
02-21-2008, 08:39 PM
you're not bad cherry. haha
Why thank you, lol
GRBball2008
02-21-2008, 08:40 PM
yeah it was a sick game... ya missed a good one
TheMaddBomber
02-21-2008, 08:43 PM
first i was on the team and like many others didnt have a problem with streb. some of you seniors were down right nasty to him. you created the respect issue and it wouldnt matter who came to coach your minds were made up. you not getting allstars had nothing to do with streb it is school policy that anyone who is suspended because of code of conduct makes them ineligible for any awards or allstars. so you can blame your self for that. finally you need to quit blaming everyone else for your choices and actions and get over the fact that two years ago you lost your coach life does go on.
haha well sry to say u are very unbeliveable because obviously u are not a senior, and out of the handfull of juniors on the team idk many who liked streb either. Also being a student at elba i find it very unrealistic that anybody below the junior level can speak as well as you or has that strong of an opinion on the whole subject, therefore i am led to belive that yes u were a member of the team but if i had to take a guess id say u are streb himself not a player and i also know that that school policy was never made clear to any member of the football team another reason u are unbeliveable so feel free to prove me wrong and tell me who u are, otherwise plz stop misleading ppl
also i dont blame anybody for my actions i also dont regret my actions at all im a teenage kid im gonna go have fun deal with it. and one last thing its not hard to deal with losing a coach when u still keep a friend and mentor. i learned more about football and life in general from joe in 9th and 10th grade than i have learned from anybody else in that town in my whole 17 years of existence so its not hard to be loyal and respect somebody like that, i was over losing him as a coach before the season started there is more than a coach to player relationship at work in the situation in my opinion anyways.
GRBball2008
02-21-2008, 08:53 PM
Well said... not only was Joe a truly great coach he was a good person in general. He was a friend, a teacher, a role model, and like you said, a mentor. You could go to him to talk about whatever you wanted and he would listen and help you out. Just all and all a good person, and not to mention an extremely good coach!
lancers14te
02-21-2008, 08:54 PM
i also know that that school policy was never made clear to any member of the football team another reason u are unbeliveable so feel free to prove me wrong and tell me who u are, otherwise plz stop misleading ppl
yeah, i had no idea that was the policy either. i'm pretty sure no one on the team did. if we did know, im sure we wouldnt have been so upset about it.
lancers14te
02-21-2008, 08:57 PM
Well said... not only was Joe a truly great coach he was a good person in general. He was a friend, a teacher, a role model, and like you said, a mentor. You could go to him to talk about whatever you wanted and he would listen and help you out. Just all and all a good person, and not to mention an extremely good coach!
In both sports. Thats whats underestimated the most. Back to back sectional titles, basketball then football. he is a good guy too. never forget those hot sauce nights.
TheMaddBomber
02-21-2008, 08:59 PM
me either me either best times i had durin hs football were tuesday nights my sophmore year
lancers14te
02-21-2008, 09:03 PM
me either me either best times i had durin hs football were tuesday nights my sophmore year
no doubt, best times during high school period.
GRBball2008
02-21-2008, 09:03 PM
True that. Pizza wings film friends and hot sauce, gotta love it.
TurnTwo
02-21-2008, 09:08 PM
Zambito's a great coach, and the reasons he was let go were questionable at best. We get it. You guys don't like Streb, we get it.
Get over it. What did whining, complaining and refusing to buy into his system get you though? What did you gain from it?
It's great that you guys are loyal to Zambito, it really is. But at the end of the day is a 2-12 record over two seasons the proper way to pay tribute to him?
No matter how good a coach is it's nearly impossible to be successful if his players won't stand behind him.
sgtpepper499
02-21-2008, 09:10 PM
i'm not stucko either... I'm Paul Laudico just throwing that out there....
Streb's a joke
boobiemiles
02-21-2008, 09:19 PM
to add to turntwo's comment..........
plus it shows joe the greatest respect so go out and win games. he will know he raised a loyal group of men that still work hard for whoever is placed in charge, and that he also trained them to be winners even if he isn't there to lead
GRBball2008
02-21-2008, 09:24 PM
You make it sound like we went out and tried to lose. We really did want to win and it is ridiculous to think otherwise. Trust me I didn't want to go 0-8 this year, i can't think of anyone who would want to work hard and still lose every game in a season.
boobiemiles
02-21-2008, 09:29 PM
You make it sound like we went out and tried to lose. We really did want to win and it is ridiculous to think otherwise. Trust me I didn't want to go 0-8 this year, i can't think of anyone who would want to work hard and still lose every game in a season.
i believe you that you went out and tried your very hardest in games and worked hard in practice... but with the talent on your team, even with me at coach you could win a game... and you all honestly said that you didn't have the fire and edge that you did when joe was coaching. regardless of the coach it seems like you should have tried even harder to win to respect what he did for your program
lancers14te
02-21-2008, 09:32 PM
You make it sound like we went out and tried to lose. We really did want to win and it is ridiculous to think otherwise. Trust me I didn't want to go 0-8 this year, i can't think of anyone who would want to work hard and still lose every game in a season.
that's true. Going in even without joe we still strived to be sectional champs, as we did every year. The first three weeks took a lot out of us, and then everyone getting suspended just added to it. But i can tell you this, no one wanted, or tried to lose.
TheMaddBomber
02-21-2008, 09:41 PM
i believe you that you went out and tried your very hardest in games and worked hard in practice... but with the talent on your team, even with me at coach you could win a game... and you all honestly said that you didn't have the fire and edge that you did when joe was coaching. regardless of the coach it seems like you should have tried even harder to win to respect what he did for your program
i worked harder this year and put forth more effort into this team than ever before to try and make something happen i was in the wieght room everyday possible from christmas to football season started, dislocated my shoulder and didnt sit out a single play that game, worked hard to know all the plays from every offesive line postion i played center but ik what the guards and tackles are suppose to do on every play, i played better football and executed plays better than ever before, hit harder hit more often and had an allround better attitude commin into this past season then any season before it. this was suppose to be our chance to achieve somethin as a team, the fact is we all did buy into strebs program at first, we all did put forth effort. this is the reason it is even that more of a dissapointment and a big part of the reason for the attitude that most of have now. the effort was there trust me, ik it prolly seems hard to believe but you probably cant really understand it unless you live it
boobiemiles
02-21-2008, 09:44 PM
you're all right... i'm sorry that was a dumb thing to say on my part
GRBball2008
02-21-2008, 09:45 PM
i believe you that you went out and tried your very hardest in games and worked hard in practice... but with the talent on your team, even with me at coach you could win a game... and you all honestly said that you didn't have the fire and edge that you did when joe was coaching. regardless of the coach it seems like you should have tried even harder to win to respect what he did for your program
Yeah i agree with that and it would have been nice to get a win or two out of respect for everything that Joe did do for us and the program but the bottom line is it didn't happen. (Well 2 w's last year lol) But about the fire and edge thing. We had that fire and edge playing under joe because of the fun we had when we played. It was just a such a good time. And i'll admitt that my 10th grade year I didn't play all that much but that was alright, we were winning games and i was having a good time and i was cool waiting till my junior and senior years to see more playing time.
lancers14te
02-21-2008, 09:50 PM
you're all right... i'm sorry that was a dumb thing to say on my part
We def know where you're coming from. It's tough to keep up the same drive after something like that happens. We're just trying to say that we tried our hardest out there. Nothin seemed to go our way the whole year.
TheMaddBomber
02-21-2008, 09:59 PM
We def know where you're coming from. It's tough to keep up the same drive after something like that happens. We're just trying to say that we tried our hardest out there. Nothin seemed to go our way the whole year.
u can come into a season with alot of effort and a good attitude and when things go the way they did for us it takes a toll on that attidue and effort ill give part of that up too a rough schedule facin oakfield attica and pembroke in the beginin of the season is not ideal and prolly contribted to the loss of that "good attitude" and helped to cause distrust and or dislike of streb but it still coulve been prevented with some solid leadership skills on his part. unfortunatly it wasnt but still at the end of season when i got back from suspension i still busted my ass even harder because i definatly did not want go defeated in the one sport that matters to me my senior year no less. i dont get to play football ever again if u dont think i wouldnt have given anything to beat even just one team ur crazy
lancers14te
02-21-2008, 10:06 PM
u can come into a season with alot of effort and a good attitude and when things go the way they did for us it takes a toll on that attidue and effort ill give part of that up too a rough schedule facin oakfield attica and pembroke in the beginin of the season is not ideal and prolly contribted to the loss of that "good attitude" and helped to cause distrust and or dislike of streb but it still coulve been prevented with some solid leadership skills on his part. unfortunatly it wasnt but still at the end of season when i got back from suspension i still busted my ass even harder because i definatly did not want go defeated in the one sport that matters to me my senior year no less. i dont get to play football ever again if u dont think i wouldnt have given anything to beat even just one team ur crazy
I agree. Example: Warsaw. After losing to barker, we could have all just said we were done and not even showed up to play in that pool play game. We wanted to atleast end on a win
BNewton32
02-21-2008, 10:12 PM
yeah all us seniors played our hearts out everygame. I and several other seniors were in the weight room everyday over the summer working to try and be a sectional contender. We did doubles just like everybody else and we practiced hard did sprints etc. We also lost against the 3 best teams in the GR to start the season. Did we shoot ourselves in the foot or poor coaching or poor attitude that is your own opinion but as a player on that team i know every single one of us played our heart out every game...
GrChamp72
02-22-2008, 11:55 AM
oakfield will lose to attica. pembroke losses to oa and attica.
How do you figure that pembroke will lose to oa and pembroke...they are loosing alot of great players but will still have a solid team next year
joeZam1
02-22-2008, 12:03 PM
To all the senior class at ecs: You all know I love ya, and wish you the best! Im real sorry things turned out the way they did. I cant wait to see your smiling faces on grad day..you can always come see me in florida over spring break..I'll buy ya dinner..keep the faith..coach z
B-TownStriker11
02-22-2008, 01:05 PM
Any team Batavia plays
boobiemiles
02-22-2008, 02:50 PM
How do you figure that pembroke will lose to oa and pembroke...they are loosing alot of great players but will still have a solid team next year
go back. read the two posts before it. i was not predicting that. i was clarifying what somebody two posts before had given where somebody was uncertain on what the prediction was.
i was just saying that would be the case in that scenario
TheMaddBomber
02-22-2008, 08:58 PM
To all the senior class at ecs: You all know I love ya, and wish you the best! Im real sorry things turned out the way they did. I cant wait to see your smiling faces on grad day..you can always come see me in florida over spring break..I'll buy ya dinner..keep the faith..coach z
haha me and tony are gonna try and get down there and take u up on that offer
joeZam1
02-22-2008, 10:45 PM
Hope you do! Kelly and I have a huge place, we'd love to have you.
alex-chunkx12
02-23-2008, 09:54 AM
I agree that execution starts in practice. I have no idea what went on or goes on with regards to Elba, so I won't begin to speak on that. My point is just that good players can overcome bad coaching. I am not saying this in relation to Elba, just a general statement.
no it can't happen. we had great great players this year in alexander but some bad play calling costed us some close games. and if u don't have the coaches to get you in shape and get you ready for the games it doesnt matter how great of a team you have. it is the coaches job to get the players in shape, mentaly sharp, pumped up, and ready for friday and saturday. if your coach doesn't do that you dont have a chance to win exspecially in the GR. i have played for alexander varsity 3 years. our first 2 weeks of our season can prolly be compared to how hard an OA or Attica practice is in one hour. through the season as well we do no conditioning work. we will run offence one day just constant reputition and then defence the next. that all our hardest running is in the first 20 minutes of practice durin 2-a-days when we do agality drills. for the rest of the season the hardest it gets is running from the school to the practice feild and doing form run. beyond that no running involved in our practice. i know what it takes to be a championship team, just not in football track for example i joined varsity track in 8th grade to get ready for football in the fall. and sence i have joined i have been a monster in track but when your conditioning wheres off during football you can tell. coach radley and amico at alexander do our track we just won sectionals by 40 points over the closest team and we currently have 21 kids in state qualifiers. every day we are running stairs and hitting the weights incredibly hard. for football we hit weights for about 20 to 30 minutes 2 times a week at the end of practice. summer lifting and running is optional so we get a turn out of about 4 kids if we are lucky. now to coach zambito and attica coach does this sound like a winning formual. or would this be a 2-7 season beating only elba's second team when their varsity got caught and barker.
joeZam1
02-23-2008, 11:09 PM
Thats not very good, if its true: Its know secret that you have to condition daily in football..we worked very hard, especially during 2 adays. But we always ran amile at the end of practice and sprints in the middle of practice..This is important because if you r going to execute when your tired you have to practice when your tired...I agree with you.
Snowboarder32
02-23-2008, 11:17 PM
Thats not very good, if its true: Its know secret that you have to condition daily in football..we worked very hard, especially during 2 adays. But we always ran amile at the end of practice and sprints in the middle of practice..This is important because if you r going to execute when your tired you have to practice when your tired...I agree with you.
Sadly, it is true. Alexander's Varsity conditioning is a joke. maybe 5 gassers all season and that definitely won't cut it, football players have to be able to make plays in the 4th quarter and can't do so if they're tired due to lack of conditioning. However, I think the coaches are trying to get the players to remember the plays by constantly drilling them with the plays to make it second instinct, but again if they have to drill as much it shows that the players don't know the plays, which is obviously bad. the 2-a-days used to be very effective and Alexanders JV team was one of the best in the GR 2 years ago when the JV coaches were coach Hamilton and coach Amico, from the stories i've heard the conditioning was hell, but the good kind, the kind you know that the guy you're facing off against in the 4th quarter when you need to make a play is more tired than you and you are going to make the play or block.
joeZam1
02-23-2008, 11:38 PM
i can tell u this, we did sprints 4 times a week and we did gassers every wed. 4 of them, IF everyone made time.
sgtpepper499
02-23-2008, 11:42 PM
i can tell u this, we did sprints 4 times a week and we did gassers every wed. 4 of them, IF everyone made time.
haha yeppp... the one year i did play for you. I'm pretty sure i almost died everytime we ran gassers lol.. Wish i woulda played in 05
joeZam1
02-23-2008, 11:45 PM
I really wish you would have also!!! that was a special year for your friends and I am happy that you all stayed close and dont worry, I saw you screaming for us at everygame..Wish i could of coached you up a bit, your a fine youngman with lots of potential.
alex-chunkx12
02-24-2008, 09:31 AM
i can tell u this, we did sprints 4 times a week and we did gassers every wed. 4 of them, IF everyone made time.
yeah and i really consider you to be one of the best coaches GR has ever had. but what is the point of running so many plays if your can't beat the guy across from you b/c your to tired. if u had watched us this year you know we have a horrible season. we had very high exspectations returning 9 starters on both side of the ball from our semi-finals game against avon. this year we exspected to make a huge run for the GR and sectional tital and we never came close. we can keep it together in the first half alright but at the start of the second any good team just rolled us. also i would like to ask you if you do not mind to come up with a workout schedual for me i am a senior and i want to play football in college at brockport in the fall. i am OL and DL but i tend to focus more just on the OL also i missed half this season b/c i had to have back surgery so i cant do things that involve heavy lifting with my back. if you could just send me a private message i would appreciate that very much.
BogeyPro
02-24-2008, 12:30 PM
For what it's worth I saw Elba play ND and I was made aware that Elba was playing with a depleted team due to suspensions. I didn't see any of these Elba kids laying down, I didn't see anyone giving less than all they had to give, I didn't see any quit in this team.
I can't comment on other Elba games last year but anyone who says Elba didn't play hard against ND obviously was not there.
TheMaddBomber
02-24-2008, 04:04 PM
For what it's worth I saw Elba play ND and I was made aware that Elba was playing with a depleted team due to suspensions. I didn't see any of these Elba kids laying down, I didn't see anyone giving less than all they had to give, I didn't see any quit in this team.
I can't comment on other Elba games last year but anyone who says Elba didn't play hard against ND obviously was not there.
haha yes but u should have seen it more close up, almost half of them were terrified, first of to the practice how u play aspect for that game we who where suspended where told "dont hit them or put them down we need to boost their confidence" or somethin along those lines so that game was a shock for all those kids that played since they had not been hit by an actualy varsity starter in well all season actually since we were always yelled at whenever we actually hit them. so yeah i give the kids alot of credit for stickin in there cause our coach did absolutley nothin to prepare them for that game.
alex-chunkx12
03-08-2008, 01:52 PM
For what it's worth I saw Elba play ND and I was made aware that Elba was playing with a depleted team due to suspensions. I didn't see any of these Elba kids laying down, I didn't see anyone giving less than all they had to give, I didn't see any quit in this team.
I can't comment on other Elba games last year but anyone who says Elba didn't play hard against ND obviously was not there.
yeah they played us pretty well and might have been able to pull an upset i think that team was alot better than the original that last to barker in the last week. they are going to be good when it accualy comes there time to step up and play on varsity.
lancers14te
03-09-2008, 07:31 PM
yeah they played us pretty well and might have been able to pull an upset i think that team was alot better than the original that last to barker in the last week. they are going to be good when it accualy comes there time to step up and play on varsity.
That was the most ridiculous post i've ever seen. First of all, I think we had 40 yards of offense, all coming on one trick play. Second of all, that WAS their time to "step up and play varsity". Third, you should know if you actually play, that you weren't going all out, or you probably could of beat us by 70. Mancuso is too classy to do something like that. If you're implying that the people who were suspended weren't as good/didn't play as hard as the kids who played during that game, then you need to recheck your logic. I'm not going against anyone saying that those kid's didnt play their tales off, because they did. And that itself showed how much heart they have. But to say their more talented/"better" then our starting team is just ridiculous.
TheMaddBomber
03-09-2008, 08:50 PM
yeah they played us pretty well and might have been able to pull an upset i think that team was alot better than the original that last to barker in the last week. they are going to be good when it accualy comes there time to step up and play on varsity.
haha we were first team for a reason if those kids were better they wouldnt have only played while we were suspended also comming off of a two week break where we didnt really practice ofcourse we arent gonna be on the top of our game. however id love for u to tell me to my face that any one of those kids was better or tried harder than me cause its straight up bull. for a group of freshman that are half our size and have almost no xperience playin varsity ball to be as good as us is literaly impossible. plus come talk to me when u lead all of section v in talckles cause to tell me that any of the kids that fiilled in at middle lb are as good as me or ian then seriously u have lost ur marbles man. i mean chunk unless the only point of that was to cause drama and piss us off then i dont think u really know what ur talkin about lol
GRBball2008
03-09-2008, 09:17 PM
Yeah i definetely agree with that. Are starters (originally) were by far much more talented than the second team kids. And i'm not trying to take anything away from them because they were a hard working group of primaraly freshman that were tossed to the lions. The showed alot of heart and desire out there but physically and skill wise they were nothing compared to the starters on our team. When you have so many strong, fast, smart players on your team, many of whom were seniors, its extremely hard to compare there talent to the talent of the second team
trojan03
05-27-2008, 07:31 PM
I'm waiting for Wilson's attempt at a witty remark after the Legend says chunk was right. And I don't think chunk meant they weren't good or anything maybe that it was just like premature and unexpected for the players..
GodHelpUs
05-27-2008, 10:13 PM
Pretty good list but number 5 is a little questionable(I think you are joking right?). I am not sure but does Holley still have a football team?
I didn't know Attica-Pembroke was such a rivalry. I know the Elba team has diminished some over the years but the Elba-Notre Dame rivalry was pretty heated along with the Elba-Oakfield of the late 90's and early 2000's. I believe Oakfield had not beaten Elba from 1998-2002 (I could be off on my years) including sectional play and that left a bitter taste in the mouths of many Oakfield players.
elba/nd isnt even a rivalry anymore. zambitos go to nd!! thats like a cardinal sin. whatev id get outta byron-elba-byrgen too
boobiemiles
05-28-2008, 08:47 AM
I don't see how its a dumb question. You stated they busted their tails in practice while being coached by Streb, I just wanted to find out how you knew that. To answer your questions:
1.) Was I at practice? No, I have better things to do than watch Elba practice football.
2.) Play much? Let's see. Two sectional titles in basketball, two sectional titles in baseball, GR All Star/2nd team AGR/first team all-state in hoops, GR All Star/second team all-state in football, 11 points in the Ronald McDonald game, and a touchdown in the Eddie Meath game. Nah, I pretty much sucked.
Thanks for the resume. mike
GRBball2008
12-04-2008, 10:52 PM
I've decided this might be my favorite thread of all time. lol
boobiemiles
12-04-2008, 10:53 PM
It's up there. sectionv.talksback awards is great. best fans is good if you want to read a short novel
boobiemiles
12-04-2008, 11:10 PM
Good guess, but wrong. The GR is for Genesee Region.
I'm just a has-been who likes to live in the past once in a while I guess. If you really need to find out who I am, do a little research, I'm sure you can figure it out. Most of you high school kids were in 1st or 2nd grade when I was playing (there's your free hint). If you really have nothing better to do (and really, I mean NOTHING better to do), go to the Richmond Library in Batavia, they probably have the old newspaper articles on microfilm. They did when I was doing research projects for high school.
I almost wish I hadn't answered the question about my playing experience, but oh well, I was asked and I answered. Sounds like Mr. Zambito had quite the high school career himself, so I'll return the congrats to him. I have to ask though, how could you pass up the Eddie Meath game?
I know who you are.
GRBball2008
12-04-2008, 11:18 PM
It's up there. sectionv.talksback awards is great. best fans is good if you want to read a short novel
as far as my personal favorite.. I think this might be it lol
boobiemiles
12-04-2008, 11:19 PM
After rereading the entire thing, it really is one of the best. so much controversy... and you need a character guide to help understand who's who
The Truth
12-04-2008, 11:23 PM
or who is - who and who and who and who
GRBball2008
12-04-2008, 11:25 PM
After rereading the entire thing, it really is one of the best. so much controversy... and you need a character guide to help understand who's who
if you knew who everyone is it makes it so much better. anyone care to reveil their identity first?
boobiemiles
12-04-2008, 11:34 PM
Me and you could produce quite the list, but I feel like it is intrusive to reveil people's identity.... There are very few people who posted in this thread who we don't know who you are or don't have a very good idea of who you could be.
The Truth
12-04-2008, 11:39 PM
i'm not stucko either... I'm Paul Laudico just throwing that out there....
Streb's a joke
hahahahahahahaha pauls the man
ProudestMonkey27
12-04-2008, 11:57 PM
Garbage
GRBball2008
12-04-2008, 11:58 PM
Garbage
this thread?
The Truth
12-04-2008, 11:58 PM
Ohhh no you didnt.
boobiemiles
12-04-2008, 11:58 PM
Garbage
If your not familiar with the situation you just wouldn't understand..... I still don't know if I get it all or not......
ProudestMonkey27
12-04-2008, 11:59 PM
Yea, I can't pay attention:)
The Truth
12-05-2008, 12:00 AM
cuz you need to understand what was going on to understand everything that was being said.
ProudestMonkey27
12-05-2008, 12:02 AM
I agree
"Show me a guy who's afraid to look bad, and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time."
Lou Brock
The Truth
12-05-2008, 12:09 AM
When in rome
ProudestMonkey27
12-05-2008, 12:10 AM
Toga!!!
The Truth
12-05-2008, 12:13 AM
Is it a coincidence that you wrote that word in this thread?
boobiemiles
12-05-2008, 12:18 AM
Who knows haha.....
ProudestMonkey27
12-05-2008, 12:26 AM
No relation
The Truth
12-05-2008, 12:26 AM
WOW that is extremely ironic then... why did you say that?
boobiemiles
12-05-2008, 12:29 AM
Because you said when in rome. He saw rome and the first thing that came to his mind was a toga
The Truth
12-05-2008, 12:32 AM
haha i guess.. still, u gotta admit, thats pretty crazy
ProudestMonkey27
12-05-2008, 12:40 AM
http://espn.go.com/
allstar54
12-24-2008, 12:45 AM
Last i checked, coaches call the plays, not the players. so maybe you need to look at the coaches efforts before pointing fingers at the players.
actually the oakfield guys called for the two point conversion and the no play both against pembroke... and i always talked to my coach during kickoff and punt and what not and he would always ask me what plays are there and i would tell him and we would run them and they would be there like i said :-)
BravesRTops
12-24-2008, 03:41 PM
actually the oakfield guys called for the two point conversion and the no play both against pembroke... and i always talked to my coach during kickoff and punt and what not and he would always ask me what plays are there and i would tell him and we would run them and they would be there like i said :-)
its true, they called for the play they didn't call the play though, one of the greatest GR games my eyes have ever seen
bcherry8
12-24-2008, 04:21 PM
its true, they called for the play they didn't call the play though, one of the greatest GR games my eyes have ever seen
Hahaha Coach Dowd and I watched the film from that again, and we played the clip of boobiemiles storming the field, arms flailing, in slo-mo. THAT is classic, lol.
BravesRTops
12-24-2008, 04:33 PM
Hahaha Coach Dowd and I watched the film from that again, and we played the clip of boobiemiles storming the field, arms flailing, in slo-mo. THAT is classic, lol.
That field rush was raw human emotion triggered by hometown pride
bcherry8
12-24-2008, 04:34 PM
That field rush was raw human emotion triggered by hometown pride
Hahaha true that. I got knocked off the fence by some idiot in mid-climb.
BravesRTops
12-24-2008, 04:37 PM
Hahaha true that. I got knocked off the fence by some idiot in mid-climb.
i had to wait for people to get over and then i was out there, noah and myself shared a tender emotional non homosexual hug
bcherry8
12-24-2008, 04:40 PM
i had to wait for people to get over and then i was out there, noah and myself shared a tender emotional non homosexual hug
Haha happened with him and I after the LeRoy game. Not quite as cheerful though, unfortunately :(
BravesRTops
12-24-2008, 04:41 PM
Haha happened with him and I after the LeRoy game. Not quite as cheerful though, unfortunately :(
which was actually another terrific game and up until that onside kick could have gone either way. we played them tough
bcherry8
12-24-2008, 04:45 PM
which was actually another terrific game and up until that onside kick could have gone either way. we played them tough
Although in terms of point differential, it wasnt LeRoy's closest game at that point of the season, I still think we played them tougher than any other team this season, except for Southwestern, of course.
BravesRTops
12-24-2008, 04:48 PM
Although in terms of point differential, it wasnt LeRoy's closest game at that point of the season, I still think we played them tougher than any other team this season, except for Southwestern, of course.
i completely agree, one break is all we needed
bcherry8
12-24-2008, 04:51 PM
i completely agree, one break is all we needed
My prediction of 17-13 OA actually was spot on with about 9 minutes left.
BravesRTops
12-24-2008, 04:54 PM
My prediction of 17-13 OA actually was spot on with about 9 minutes left.
unfortunately for myself i predicted 50-45
bcherry8
12-24-2008, 05:00 PM
unfortunately for myself i predicted 50-45
Hahaha after I predicted a shootout between OA and Pembroke in round 2, and failed miserably, I didnt even consider predicting a high score.
Section5sportsguy
12-26-2008, 12:22 AM
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TopShelf
12-26-2008, 11:17 AM
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GR has a great rivalry between local teams, like Attica-Alexander, ND-Elba, and OA-Pembroke.
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