**OFFICIAL** Where are they going thread?

[DrewVT6]

We have the AGR teams all anounced, the state All Star teams should be out by Monday, so let's start talking about where players are going to school.

I know:
Jake Russell (Brockport)- signed a NLI with Roberts Wesleyan
Tomas Vazquez-Simmons(SOTA)- signed with Canisius College
Brian Szcepanski (Schroeder)-Signed with Wagner College

[Henrietta-Tech]

www.hometeamsportsmagazine.com had some listings of local signings. Not sure if they're on the web or just in their free local paper.

[UNCTarheels]

Chris Milke from Pal-Mac will play at Cortland next season

Palmyra-Macedon big man Chris Milke averaged a triple-double this season. (http://www.mpnnow.com/news/view_story.php?articleId=8262)-Daily Messenger

[DrewVT6]

when is the deadline? Isn't it May 15th or something like that? Or is it that the late signing period is May 15th to the 17th?

[DrewVT6]

Brian Gebhardt has committed to Naz, keeping their Fairport pipeline going.

Tim Brown from Lima Christian has also committed to Nazareth. With his size and soft touch he should do well in a D3 setting.

[DrewVT6]

Kevin Borden and Tyler Launer from Fairport have both committed to Medaille College.

[UNCTarheels]

Will Cornett has decided to further his basketball career at St. John Fisher in Rochester, NY. He will be playing along With fellow C-S graduates Isaiah Smalt and Matt Newman.

Zach Simpson has decided to attend Elmira College and further his basketball career. It Will be nice to see Simpson and Cornett play against each other.

Sean Mourhess will be attending Houghton College and participating in Track and Field

Sam Wood has signed with Brockport and will try and get a baseball scholarship.

Andy Knowles will be attending Alfred U. in the fall with hopes of trying out for atleast the JV team there.

[UNCTarheels]

Despite the claims that he had D1 offers, Andy Marchand is going the D3 rout like "Most" people predicted. here's the article from the D&C

Since the Finney boys basketball team repeated as state champion, it made sense that Andy Marchand once again was the New York State Sportswriters Association's Class D Player of the Year. Marchand, a 5-foot-8 senior guard, averaged 25 points a game and dominated the Final Four weekend. He plans to play at Division III Hilbert College in Hamburg, near Buffalo.-D&C

[DrewVT6]

I think people only said he had D1 "interest". Which was true, but once they saw his height and shooting inconsistancy they all backed off. He's been looking at D3 schools most of this season.

[UNCTarheels]

I talked to him twice once in Rochester & once in Glens Falls and he told me both times that he had D1 offers! heard it with my own ears!

[rockandroll34]

The only thing Marchand could do at a D-I college is fill up the water bottles for the JV team.
He is an average player at best, he just happened to play in a very, very weak classification.
He won't even make even close to an impact on the D-III level.

[bballfan00]

since when is playing schools 5 times ur size a easy classification.

[superheroaj]

Since you can recruit.

[bballfan00]

u cant say they recruit when most of the players and all the starters except for tim modeste have been going to the finney school since middle school.

[sflcards45]

up during the year doesn't have anything to do with how tough your class is. I am not saying they had a weak class, don't care if they did or not - they still won. But what you schedule during the year has nothing to do with your classification.

[DrewVT6]

Anybody have more college related info? Where is Whitesville's Dan Heisey going to college? Is he going to play?

What about Ricky Reed, Ozell Franklin from RH?

[sflcards45]

is still making his decision, but is planning on playing.

[UNCTarheels]

8 Finney athletes to play in college (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070507/SPORTS/70507030/1007)-D&C

[UNCTarheels]

Houghton Men's Basketball Signs Schrader (http://www.houghton.edu/sports/articles/s20070530a.htm)-Houghton Website

[sflcards45]

will play at Pitt-Brad. Have this confirmed both by Dan himself and Pitt-Brad coach Andy Moore.

Other Pitt-Brad news, Zach Moore (Olean HS) will also be going there to play.

[cbellfan15]

He I believe will be attending St. John Fisher

[UNCTarheels]

As well, that's a good pick up there

[Double two]

Brian Canty will be playing for St. John Fisher this year. He can flat out play and should see plenty of action as a Freshman.

[ref301]

Anybody have more college related info? Where is Whitesville's Dan Heisey going to college? Is he going to play?

What about Ricky Reed, Ozell Franklin from RH?

2 recent updates:

Adam Bolles (07) - (Alexander football and track) is running track for University of Buffalo. Adam was the NYSPHSAA State Champion in the 110M hurdles.

Donovan Flint (07) - (Alexander football, basketball, baseball) is an OLB at Hamilton College (NESCAC) in Clinton, NY. He will play the outfield and pitch for Hamilton's baseball team this spring.

[DrewVT6]

Brian Benson from Greece Athena just verballed to University of New Hampshire. They play in the same league with Albany and Binghamton. Seems like it'll be a good situation for him.

Adam Finklestein at HoopScoop had this to say:
6'8 Brian Benson from Rochester, NY has verbally committed to New Hampshire. Benson is an athletic power forward who can run the court, rebound, and block shots.

[Breezy77]

Adam Brasky from Batavia is playing at Kings College in Wilkes-Barre Pa. and Justin Williams from Batavia is playing at Genesee Community College. This gives Batavia 4 College basketball players from the 2005 State Final Four team. Mike Chmielowiec is playing at U of R and Kevin Saunders is playing at Fredonia

[UNCTarheels]

He was my favorite player from Batavia, i had the pleasure of watching him play several times his Junior & Senior year and he was very fun to watch, my kind of player.............

[sflcards45]

He's a good player for Fredonia. Gave us fits last year.

[Section5sportsguy]

Wolfley went to Iona.

[TopShelf]

Wolfley went to Iona.

When did that happen? Is that D1?

[Section5sportsguy]

When did that happen? Is that D1?

D3 or D4, one of those.

[bballfan00]

D3 or D4, one of those.
Iona is D1 2a for football

[Section5sportsguy]

Iona is D1 2a for football

Iona football will go undefeated next year. Reason why? The program folded.

[managerial12]

Javon McCrea is getting looked at by many mid-major D1 schools and a few high major...Syracuse, Michigan, Vermont, Canisuis are a few

[SHSknights]

Javon McCrea is getting looked at by many mid-major D1 schools and a few high major...Syracuse, Michigan, Vermont, Canisuis are a few

Really? I am shocked by that. Do not get me wrong he is a good player but he is only 6'6 without much of a jumper. Why would a mid-high D1 school want him? I am not bashing javon at all he is a great player and plays with class.

[devster5534]

Syracuse may have "looked" at him while he attended their Elite Camp but they will not offer anything for sure

[DrewVT6]

Really? I am shocked by that. Do not get me wrong he is a good player but he is only 6'6 without much of a jumper. Why would a mid-high D1 school want him? I am not bashing javon at all he is a great player and plays with class.

Answer: AAU.

If you look at the way Sutherland played him, they essentially had 3 guys watching him at all times. Two big men and a third guard collapsing on him with every possession. I once read that an "offensive threat" is someone who can't be guarded by a single player. In college, he won't have 3 defenders guarding him (at first) and he'll be able to be a 15/8 undersized PF if he doesn't grow. That's perfect for a midmajor level and might fit at some high majors. Given his parent's height and his hand and foot size though, I wouldn't be surprised to see him grow another 2"-3".

McCrea has the assets to play at the D1 level while Sutherland's bigs are good players, just not D1 material.

[screamingeagle]

Answer: AAU.

If you look at the way Sutherland played him, they essentially had 3 guys watching him at all times. Two big men and a third guard collapsing on him with every possession. I once read that an "offensive threat" is someone who can't be guarded by a single player. In college, he won't have 3 defenders guarding him (at first) and he'll be able to be a 15/8 undersized PF if he doesn't grow. That's perfect for a midmajor level and might fit at some high majors. Given his parent's height and his hand and foot size though, I wouldn't be surprised to see him grow another 2"-3".

McCrea has the assets to play at the D1 level while Sutherland's bigs are good players, just not D1 material.

i agree he has potential but in the half dozen games i have seen him play he seems to lack the energy and motivation to play at that high level and those things you cant teach--i hope he can turn that aspect around for himself and i think he has a real chance --oterwise i dont see it happening

[DrewVT6]

i agree he has potential but in the half dozen games i have seen him play he seems to lack the energy and motivation to play at that high level and those things you cant teach--i hope he can turn that aspect around for himself and i think he has a real chance --oterwise i dont see it happening

Well I tell you what, I think your expectations of what a DI big man should look like, are not realistic. Coaches I've spoken to are very impressed with his game. I don't know how many DI big men you've seen/played/coached in your life, but McCrea is one.

[screamingeagle]

Well I tell you what, I think your expectations of what a DI big man should look like, are not realistic. Coaches I've spoken to are very impressed with his game. I don't know how many DI big men you've seen/played/coached in your life, but McCrea is one.

i hope that is all true--im not ripping on him--and my qualifications are low at best to d1 coaches--im just speaking in laymans terms of what i observed---obviously no where near the d1 expertise of yourself--i do know from people close to him what a great kid as well as student he is and that tells me he can be what he wants--it would be absolutely wonderful for him to be a college star and nba draft pick--by the way i watched a big east game a while back and 6-6 didnt really seem like a d1 big man--i heard onaku is a pretty good size guy and that thabeet guy has got to be all of 6-10

[DrewVT6]

There's a difference between a blue chip recruits like Thabeet (who is 7'3) or Onuaku (6'10) were in high school and what McCrea is. I'm not claiming he's a blue chipper or top 100 player (Dane Miller is...) just that he's a capable big man for a mid-major or certain high major programs whose system he would fit into. If you look at the schools showing interest you'll note they're all in this similar vein.

[screamingeagle]

There's a difference between a blue chip recruits like Thabeet (who is 7'3) or Onuaku (6'10) were in high school and what McCrea is. I'm not claiming he's a blue chipper or top 100 player (Dane Miller is...) just that he's a capable big man for a mid-major or certain high major programs whose system he would fit into. If you look at the schools showing interest you'll note they're all in this similar vein.

i know ---just busting on ya--i watch my share of basketball--like 14 sectional games last week!! you are right--miller is as advertised--and not to keep rehashing but he never stops moving on offense--defends on perimeter and will get a rebound-outlet-and be first down the court--i like to see that committment--i really do believe javon has the ability to take over a game like miller--in a different fashion cause styles different--i missed monroe game where i heard he did --i just have not witnessed that myself--also like to commend you for 1--what sounds to me like your committment to teach and help kids and2--to stick up for a kid you believe in and think some one is trashing--that was not my intention--i was trying to praise his ability might have come out wrong!!

[managerial12]

sutherland knows how to play Javon...it wasnt like they had 6'2 or 6'3 players on him...they had a 6'7 and a 6'6 and a 6'5 always behind him...they have big bodies who LOVE to push people..they have been quoted on saying that....sutherland knows how to play them..only team in section v that can...newark would have beaten batavia..no doubt in my mind but they couldnt get past sutherland..newark and rush scrimmaged each other and javon was owning dane miller.

what javon does in AAU is where he gets his major work done..thats why his AAU coach, John Wallace, wanted to take him out of rochester and take him to a prep school and I heard it was Notre Dame Prep..he is a beast in AAU...

[EaglePride]

sutherland knows how to play Javon...it wasnt like they had 6'2 or 6'3 players on him...they had a 6'7 and a 6'6 and a 6'5 always behind him...they have big bodies who LOVE to push people..they have been quoted on saying that....sutherland knows how to play them..only team in section v that can...newark would have beaten batavia..no doubt in my mind but they couldnt get past sutherland..newark and rush scrimmaged each other and javon was owning dane miller.

what javon does in AAU is where he gets his major work done..thats why his AAU coach, John Wallace, wanted to take him out of rochester and take him to a prep school and I heard it was Notre Dame Prep..he is a beast in AAU...

Let me understand this, your saying that Javon plays better in meaningless AAU games than he does in a Sectional Championship game. Now thats interesting. I have seen Javon play 3 times and came away with the same conclusion, doesn't work hard enough throughout the whole game. I saw Dane Miller play once and I have a tough time believing that Javon owned him.
Dane had his problems in the Championship but lack of energy was not one of them. Javon is loaded with potential but he has plenty of room to improve.

[flwball11]

Well Javon does get more attention playing aau with upstate elite

[EaglePride]

Well Javon does get more attention playing aau with upstate elite

I understand the exposure that he would receive from AAU but where would you want your teams best player to perform strong, AAU or your sectional championship??

[flwball11]

yeah i understand what you're saying. I take pride in both my AAU team and my high school team. but a sectional title would be more important to me

[EaglePride]

yeah i understand what you're saying. I take pride in both my AAU team and my high school team. but a sectional title would be more important to me

My son has played AAU for the past three years and uses it to improve game skills and play against better talent. I believe you should always play hard even if it's in the driveway.....lol

[flwball11]

haha yeah i hear ya

ive played AAU since 7th grade this will be my 4th year, if you do not play hard its not worth it

[managerial12]

Let me understand this, your saying that Javon plays better in meaningless AAU games than he does in a Sectional Championship game. Now thats interesting. I have seen Javon play 3 times and came away with the same conclusion, doesn't work hard enough throughout the whole game. I saw Dane Miller play once and I have a tough time believing that Javon owned him.
Dane had his problems in the Championship but lack of energy was not one of them. Javon is loaded with potential but he has plenty of room to improve.

im just letting you know..that Javon, in his age group, is in the top 50 in the AAU circut..he has won MVP's of several AAU tournaments..he has UNLV looking at him alone from just a tournament in las vegas where he dominated his age group...you think you're talking about a 18 year old kid? Javon is currently this day is 16...turning 17 soon and only a junior..great you've seen him 3 times...I'm in the 30's on how many times i've seen him...he lacks energy in finger lakes east games because he doesnt need to go hard...terrible quality but its true...and i'm letting you know...Javon OWNED dane when they scrimmaged...it wasn't even a contest

[EaglePride]

I don't remember even discussing his age, where did that rant come from? Unmotivated is unmotivated I don't care if he's 11. I never played a game that I didn't leave absolutely everything on the floor, I don't care if it was a pick up game. I don't believe the game has changed that much. The biggest reason I have doubts is because if Ron Ceravolo can't get 100% from someone then nobody can.

[managerial12]

im editing this because a mod has messaged me about what I originally said to you but Eagle...you are so over your head about what you just said...What coach c has done for me, my family and fellow players both current and past has surpassed anything midlakes has accompished ever...it isn't coach c's fault about Javon..why do you think he's retiring? he has alot of years left in coaching but he realizes..he cant coach these kids...he can't coach "Street ballers" or kids who dont want to listen to his teaching methods.u should know more than anyone that newark has changed..before the 2000's, newark was a primary white team and now, they are majority black...I played when we were majority white but had miniorities in the school who were amazing at basketball but didnt get the chance...I would never ever call coach c racist or anything but he has finally now realized that their are kids outside the big names in newark that have talent and has finally got them into their program and have changed their lives..half of those kids on newark right now have been convicted or been in some sort of trouble until he has been in their lives..but back to the subject, Their is nothing wrong that their are alot of black or colored kids on newark..nothing at all..the game has changed...alot faster, quicker and more skilled..but also, coach c has never had a player like Javon who can dominate a game whenever he wants..he doesnt use him properly..I mean Jesus, coach c still uses the same offense and defense he used when newark went to states 20 years ago..but to say if coach c cant bring out 100% in a player, than nobody can..i take that as a diss to coach c...he's an amazing person and coach and maybe you're just mad that newark has whooped on midlakes for the past couple centuries?


im ranting because I hear this dissing and hating towards this kid ALLL the time at work and around my hometown..I really feel sorry for the kid. I've never realized a 16 year old could recieve so much hate and jealously because he has a talent above all the players around this city...people, especially on this board, believe he is a well-equipped, advanced 18 year old ready to sign a LOI...in no way is he..he is raw but talented 16 year old just living his life. You and him play basketball extremely different...me and you both have to leave everything on the table because thats all me and u had..me and u did not have talent in basketball compared to others so anything we had above people were our hearts....i'm in no way saying how he plays is justice..i mean, if i was 6'6 or 6'7 with shoes, I would play my heart out every game to show out to the scouts and fans but he doesnt want to do that during the finger lakes games unless they need it..If he dominated every single game like he could, do you think tyshawn stephens would have made all greater rochester? I went to every single newark game and he let those kids get equal opportunities to produce..In sectionals, he showed out every game except sutherland..so one game and he is terrible now? get a clue

[sportslaws]

I have scouted several D1 players in the last 8 - 10 years.javon has the potential to be the best.he is currently playing with raw undeveloped talent. and done quite well for himself SO FAR.Imagine if the right people got ahold of him...............

ron c's coaching ability is questionable. He did not have a clue. Color of skin has nothing to do with the team adjustments. after all of this time they still did not know how to get the ball to the big man PERIOD! newark got beat by the same team 3x. ron was out-coached yet again. he did nothing to counter pitt-suth defense. the guards needed to step up. if 3 people are on mccrea then 2 people are open. Any coach would have made the adjustments. What did ron do?????

as far as AAU goes.Like several D1 coaches, i saw this kid play in NYC. He was on a very unselfish team (unlike newark). he dominated. I agree he should play hard all the time. Ron C should have pushed him. Mccrea and stephens carried the team for 2 years i hear. if ron is so great where's stephens D1,D2 and D3 scholarship offers?

Nonetheless, Mccrea is young.He has a lot of basksetball in front of him.People recruit from AAU not high school when you are from a small town. next year people will still be talking about Mccrea. good,bad or indifferent the boy has a lot of talent.Dane and Javon are two differnt body frames and play 2 different positions. To compare them is insane. I want them both on the same team. That would be great. They could be the flynn-harris of Rutgers.

[EaglePride]

I have never suggested even once that I hated Javon, I have stated he has talent and a great upside. I did not or have ever questioned his ability. The only thing I have questioned is the effort that I personally saw. You have seen him play hard, that's great, I have not. I truly believe that Javon could be very good if he learns play 32 mins hard and developes a jump shot or short range game. He is young so he has plenty of time. I have been speaking in basketball terms not racial, Javon is a talent regardless of his race. Your statements have confirmed exactly what I have been saying, you have admitted that he doesn't always play hard in FLE. I hate him?, and you agreed with me????? That is all I ever said against Javon McCrea and you supported that statement. If you choose to worship him that's great but everyone has an opinion and I haven't seen one post that even closely resembled hate. Every post I have read has stated the Javon is talented, every one.
Also, I never "dissed" Ron Ceravolo, I respect him, played for him when he was an assistant coach and truly admire the man.
The statement I made meant that if a player would not play hard for Ron then I have doubts that he will play hard for anyone......That is a compliment not a "diss" !!
Bottom line is your whole post was a wasted effort, I never hated Javon or "dissed" Coach Ceravolo. I can only suggest that you drink a little less coffee before you read and respond to these posts.

By the way, as far as accomplishments go, Midlakes has a sectional title this year and Newark does not. Both teams were #1 seeds but Midlakes was the only one that took care of business.

[managerial12]

I have never suggested even once that I hated Javon, I have stated he has talent and a great upside. I did not or have ever questioned his ability. The only thing I have questioned is the effort that I personally saw. You have seen him play hard, that's great, I have not. I truly believe that Javon could be very good if he learns play 32 mins hard and developes a jump shot or short range game. He is young so he has plenty of time. I have been speaking in basketball terms not racial, Javon is a talent regardless of his race. Your statements have confirmed exactly what I have been saying, you have admitted that he doesn't always play hard in FLE. I hate him?, and you agreed with me????? That is all I ever said against Javon McCrea and you supported that statement. If you choose to worship him that's great but everyone has an opinion and I haven't seen one post that even closely resembled hate. Every post I have read has stated the Javon is talented, every one.
Also, I never "dissed" Ron Ceravolo, I respect him, played for him when he was an assistant coach and truly admire the man.
The statement I made meant that if a player would not play hard for Ron then I have doubts that he will play hard for anyone......That is a compliment not a "diss" !!
Bottom line is your whole post was a wasted effort, I never hated Javon or "dissed" Coach Ceravolo. I can only suggest that you drink a little less coffee before you read and respond to these posts.

By the way, as far as accomplishments go, Midlakes has a sectional title this year and Newark does not. Both teams were #1 seeds but Midlakes was the only one that took care of business.

except midlakes couldnt hang in the same gym as newark...ever....and yes you were hating on the kid..wasted effort? i dont know how it was when I got messages in my inbox saying nice post and eagle is a idiot for saying that? you must be the only one..worship him? I do not...I feel bad for the kid because he is still a kid..i brought up the race thing because thats why coach c is retiring.He simply cant coach these kids anymore. They dont want to listen anymore. Again, you dont know what you're talknig about. He actually has a pretty nice jump shot

[managerial12]

I have scouted several D1 players in the last 8 - 10 years.javon has the potential to be the best.he is currently playing with raw undeveloped talent. and done quite well for himself SO FAR.Imagine if the right people got ahold of him...............

ron c's coaching ability is questionable. He did not have a clue. Color of skin has nothing to do with the team adjustments. after all of this time they still did not know how to get the ball to the big man PERIOD! newark got beat by the same team 3x. ron was out-coached yet again. he did nothing to counter pitt-suth defense. the guards needed to step up. if 3 people are on mccrea then 2 people are open. Any coach would have made the adjustments. What did ron do?????

as far as AAU goes.Like several D1 coaches, i saw this kid play in NYC. He was on a very unselfish team (unlike newark). he dominated. I agree he should play hard all the time. Ron C should have pushed him. Mccrea and stephens carried the team for 2 years i hear. if ron is so great where's stephens D1,D2 and D3 scholarship offers?

Nonetheless, Mccrea is young.He has a lot of basksetball in front of him.People recruit from AAU not high school when you are from a small town. next year people will still be talking about Mccrea. good,bad or indifferent the boy has a lot of talent.Dane and Javon are two differnt body frames and play 2 different positions. To compare them is insane. I want them both on the same team. That would be great. They could be the flynn-harris of Rutgers.

um stephens has just about every d3 school after him and even had 5 d2 schools, cansius and UB after him...he's a 6'1 200lb point guard...who wouldnt want that..sutherland knows how to play newark...they have our number everytime. We dread to see sutherland in sectionals because they always get us..whether it was cj lee or now with those 3 huge kids...one, sutherland played a match up zone i believe which is very smart to do..and i didnt compare dane and javon. I've only seen dane once and that was at the scrimmage and javon bodied him...literally destroyed in the post

[EaglePride]

except midlakes couldnt hang in the same gym as newark...ever....and yes you were hating on the kid..wasted effort? i dont know how it was when I got messages in my inbox saying nice post and eagle is a idiot for saying that? you must be the only one..worship him? I do not...I feel bad for the kid because he is still a kid..i brought up the race thing because thats why coach c is retiring.He simply cant coach these kids anymore. They dont want to listen anymore. Again, you dont know what you're talknig about. He actually has a pretty nice jump shot

You obviously can't read, your still ranting and I could care less what messages you get. I stand by my opinion. Point out one post or statement by myself or anyone else that was hateful towards Javon......you can't. I said he didn't play hard when I saw him and YOU stated the same thing. I have NEVER disputed Javon's abilities ever. He has more raw talent than anyone on Midlakes, period. He just doesn't bring it all the time, period. This is my last post on the subject I am done wasting my time.

[DaddyBear]

It sounds to me like JLoson wants to give Javon some press because Newark lost, and some people were critical of his play in the finals. Ok JL, we all heard and we all know he's a good player.

[managerial12]

It sounds to me like JLoson wants to give Javon some press because Newark lost, and some people were critical of his play in the finals. Ok JL, we all heard and we all know he's a good player.

i can agree with you..he didnt come to play but nether did his teammates...i mean 7 points, 11 rebounds and 3 blocks..thats a pretty decent stat line but for this kid, that is terrible because we are so used to him putting up 20/20/5...i could care less if people think he is good or bad...it just makes me mad when people judge him on one performance or on three of them to make a strong statement that he is lazy or doesn't try. but i really dont care about the kid.i'm not in his life nor barely said 5 words to the kid..played hoop against him when the older kids of the program scrimmaged the varsity team..other than that, no contact or care in the world for him..the kid wants to get his teammates involved...he'll clean up their mess..he has been quoted on that...You'll never hear him complain or cry about not getting the ball...ever...unless he needs to take over...he wanted the ball against sutherland..his teammmates couldnt get it to him...good defense or a lack of coach? probably both

[sportslaws]

the coach is the reason newark lost to pitt-suth AGAIN. what adjustments did ron make to beat them?pitt-suth has stated over and over that mccrea is a threat. they beat newark 3x with the same defensive strategy.7pts.,10 reb and 3 blocks is good considering his team is selfish, ron has the same plays from year 1902 and 3 people were on mccrea the entire game. NOW this is the interesting part - had mccrea brought the ball up the court, shot 3 pointers, got 2 rebounds and ignored the plays, this thread would read - Mccrea is un-coachable. BUT mccrea is abiding by the system NOW he is lazy???dane miller had trouble on his team as well. there was a lot of jealousy.will either of you take mccrea or miller and work them out? will either of you help mccrea get into a D1 school of HIS choice? if not then you should not be talking about them!! Talk about the coaching or the lack thereof.

[EaglePride]

the coach is the reason newark lost to pitt-suth AGAIN. what adjustments did ron make to beat them?pitt-suth has stated over and over that mccrea is a threat. they beat newark 3x with the same defensive strategy.7pts.,10 reb and 3 blocks is good considering his team is selfish, ron has the same plays from year 1902 and 3 people were on mccrea the entire game. NOW this is the interesting part - had mccrea brought the ball up the court, shot 3 pointers, got 2 rebounds and ignored the plays, this thread would read - Mccrea is un-coachable. BUT mccrea is abiding by the system NOW he is lazy???dane miller had trouble on his team as well. there was a lot of jealousy.will either of you take mccrea or miller and work them out? will either of you help mccrea get into a D1 school of HIS choice? if not then you should not be talking about them!! Talk about the coaching or the lack thereof.

Miller took as much heat about his finals play as McCrea, I just don't see anyone crying about it. This site is all about opinions and I don't agree with yours.
I am pretty sure we can talk about whatever we would like.....thats the law, sport.

[sportslaws]

dont you agree with. the bottom line is the coach lost the gamesssss. maybe you should use your EAGLE eyes to see better. if you cant help them, why talk negative is all i say?

[flwball11]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZnVFk-VRJU

[sectionvbballfan]

first off Newarks coach is a legend in section 5 and we should be proud to have him as part of the basketball in the section.

Secondly, sutherland did not play a match up zone on mccrea.
The idea was to put Waldbillig on Mccrea and start and play the majority on him fronting him in the post. Which worked greatly, and have Salvia (a sophmore) push him around whenever he got in for his regular 10 min a game. and on every possession they had Dylan Sherwood be weak side for the lob.

There was no match up zone. and we never double teamed javon. It was simply help side defense and a great job of fronting in the post.

and javon is a terrible jump shooter

[sectionvbballfan]

Javon will be a sub-par division 1 player if he even gets that far.

He is to small to play the center position because hes only a lagit 6'6.
He is the right size to play the power forward but has no handles what so ever and also misses 15 foot shots on a regular basis. Along with the fact he never shoots from the outside because he obviously cant.

in my opinion. although he is only a junior at this point. He will be a very good high school player but a very mediocre college player.

Not big enough or strong enough to play the position he wants to play.

[DrewVT6]

Javon will be a sub-par division 1 player if he even gets that far.

He is to small to play the center position because hes only a lagit 6'6.
He is the right size to play the power forward but has no handles what so ever and also misses 15 foot shots on a regular basis. Along with the fact he never shoots from the outside because he obviously cant.

in my opinion. although he is only a junior at this point. He will be a very good high school player but a very mediocre college player.

Not big enough or strong enough to play the position he wants to play.

Is Dan Waldbillig going to play in college?

[sportslaws]

What did the legendary coach do to counter the defense pitt-suth designed for Newark's big man?I mean afterall Newark got beat 3x with the same defense.
Mccrea lacks motivation. He plays hard when he needs to. He needs that killer instinct in every game though. I first saw him play in Vegas and was impressed and was surprised that he was only 15 years old. He was playing the sf and pf positions. His jump shot was ok. The legend didnt want him to shoot. The legendary coach wanted him to post up. I guess he did not want him to take away from tyshuns glory. So Mccrea played Ron's game out of respect i suppose.
By the way, let's call a spade a spade. i will give credit to sutherland for realizing that Newarks coach was not smart enough to counter the defense. However, if the newark guards would have given mccrea the ball a lot faster, or even learned how to get a 6'6 kid with arms making him nearly 8 feet the ball, we would not be talking in this manner.
Again, Mccrea is highly recruited. This AAU season is big for him. According to his family, he does not have the offers from the schools that he would like to attend.I did not want to go into specifics before because some things are better left unsaid (for the moment at least)


Drew great question!

[managerial12]

first off Newarks coach is a legend in section 5 and we should be proud to have him as part of the basketball in the section.

Secondly, sutherland did not play a match up zone on mccrea.
The idea was to put Waldbillig on Mccrea and start and play the majority on him fronting him in the post. Which worked greatly, and have Salvia (a sophmore) push him around whenever he got in for his regular 10 min a game. and on every possession they had Dylan Sherwood be weak side for the lob.

There was no match up zone. and we never double teamed javon. It was simply help side defense and a great job of fronting in the post.

and javon is a terrible jump shooter

1. thanks for praising Ron. He is my former coach and a big part of my life and i hate seeing some people disrespecting him

2. Coach Ron was quoted saying that Pitt-Suth were playing a match up zone..came from his mouth..i was there at the blue cross and it really looked like one but if you are a player on sutherland, than you know better than me..but isn't a match up zone exactly what you guys did? im not sure..havent played "Team" ball in a while..

3. you doubled javon the WHOLE game...the WHOLE game...thats how u guys got him frustrated and playing "soft" which is smart as hell because newark are not shooters...cant shoot for nothing except havrilla and he is streaky as hell

4. he really isn't a terrible jump shooter...its just coach ron wont let him shoot jumpers and if he gets off that block, he gets yelled at...why take jumpers when you are 6'6 playing against 6'2 players? but he actually does have a jump shot and can make a three pretty good...i know i'm a little bias but i've seen it while playing pick up ball with him which the competition is alot better than these high school teams

[managerial12]

What did the legendary coach do to counter the defense pitt-suth designed for Newark's big man?I mean afterall Newark got beat 3x with the same defense.
Mccrea lacks motivation. He plays hard when he needs to. He needs that killer instinct in every game though. I first saw him play in Vegas and was impressed and was surprised that he was only 15 years old. He was playing the sf and pf positions. His jump shot was ok. The legend didnt want him to shoot. The legendary coach wanted him to post up. I guess he did not want him to take away from tyshuns glory. So Mccrea played Ron's game out of respect i suppose.
By the way, let's call a spade a spade. i will give credit to sutherland for realizing that Newarks coach was not smart enough to counter the defense. However, if the newark guards would have given mccrea the ball a lot faster, or even learned how to get a 6'6 kid with arms making him nearly 8 feet the ball, we would not be talking in this manner.
Again, Mccrea is highly recruited. This AAU season is big for him. According to his family, he does not have the offers from the schools that he would like to attend.I did not want to go into specifics before because some things are better left unsaid (for the moment at least)


Drew great question!


nice post...i agree AAU is where he shines and i really think he does better with his family and the community of newark away from him...i think he gets pressured alot

i agree the guards do not know how to get him the ball...I wanna see how Coach Havrilla works with him...i think Coach Havrilla will be alot more successful with Javon..

and coming straight from his teammates and his best friends...he has received these offers...and his grandmother and mother wearing syracuse shirts almost every game seems that is where he wants to go...but idk if he is built for that..one or two more inches and he is there but 6'6..idk...he has the body of a big guy..but the height is a lil undersized

take away from tyshun's glory? do u even watch these games? Tyshun was the most unselfish player on that kid...he left the playground game back at center and played team ball..got everyone involved and took over when needed...i know he has faded in big games which trust me..i have personally gave him some harsh words about fading at the blue cross but that statement was very wrong

and why do u think Coach Ron is retiring? he cant coach these kids anymore..again, i'm not playig the race card but he is used to white, smart players who would take in and listen to every single word coach ron would say and that is what got newark very successfull but times are changing and their are no more white kids with talent..its black kids who want to run and get up and down the court and coach ron can not coach that anymore..and he is also not used to such a dominate player..he has never had a player like Javon ever..he doesnt know how to use him...

[DrewVT6]

I watched these guys at the King of NY AAU tourny this weekend at Brockport State. It's amazing how some guys who look great in HS ball struggle against other players who are D1 caliber. While some guys who don't standout in HS ball look fantastic playing against other athletes on that level. Some guys can't get their shot off in time, others can't really defend on the perimeter or rebound against the 6'8 or 6'9 guys inside.

These kinds of off season tournaments with Elite teams are really what D1 coaches are looking at. Only the local D3 coaches get out to local HS ball, unless a D1 staff has spotted a guy in summer ball that is high on their priority list.

[managerial12]

I watched these guys at the King of NY AAU tourny this weekend at Brockport State. It's amazing how some guys who look great in HS ball struggle against other players who are D1 caliber. While some guys who don't standout in HS ball look fantastic playing against other athletes on that level. Some guys can't get their shot off in time, others can't really defend on the perimeter or rebound against the 6'8 or 6'9 guys inside.

These kinds of off season tournaments with Elite teams are really what D1 coaches are looking at. Only the local D3 coaches get out to local HS ball, unless a D1 staff has spotted a guy in summer ball that is high on their priority list.

did u happen to go check out the AAU tourny in buffalo this weekend? maybe we're talking about the same thing? Ben Holt Jr on Newark played..his team made the championships...he is a a 6'1 guard who can JUMP out of the gym

[managerial12]

I watched these guys at the King of NY AAU tourny this weekend at Brockport State. It's amazing how some guys who look great in HS ball struggle against other players who are D1 caliber. While some guys who don't standout in HS ball look fantastic playing against other athletes on that level. Some guys can't get their shot off in time, others can't really defend on the perimeter or rebound against the 6'8 or 6'9 guys inside.

These kinds of off season tournaments with Elite teams are really what D1 coaches are looking at. Only the local D3 coaches get out to local HS ball, unless a D1 staff has spotted a guy in summer ball that is high on their priority list.

i also agree on that...thats where i think javon is acceling over others..because he plays AAU all the time and dominates and wins...I like how John Wallace plays in his own age category..he could have thrown him onto dane miller's team and probably done ok but not great against kids 2 years older than him, strong and taller

[DrewVT6]

and why do u think Coach Ron is retiring? he cant coach these kids anymore..again, i'm not playig the race card but he is used to white, smart players who would take in and listen to every single word coach ron would say and that is what got newark very successfull but times are changing and their are no more white kids with talent..its black kids who want to run and get up and down the court and coach ron can not coach that anymore..and he is also not used to such a dominate player..he has never had a player like Javon ever..he doesnt know how to use him...

actually you are playing the race card... Watch teams from PA, IN, KY, etc-- there are plenty of white kids with the talent and athleticism to compete. I've found more prejudice and stereotypes in the greater Rochester area than I've found in many other areas of the country about who is good and who should play basketball. I don't even find attitudes like this in the south.

The issue is more along the lines of cultural differences because of age. Even until 10 years ago, Ceravalo's motivational tactics may have worked. The gap has spread too far and kids are motivated differently. Basketball players now are more ingrained with the And1 culture and it takes a different set of motivators to get those bad habits out.

[managerial12]

actually you are playing the race card... Watch teams from PA, IN, KY, etc-- there are plenty of white kids with the talent and athleticism to compete. I've found more prejudice and stereotypes in the greater Rochester area than I've found in many other areas of the country about who is good and who should play basketball. I don't even find attitudes like this in the south.

The issue is more along the lines of cultural differences because of age. Even until 10 years ago, Ceravalo's motivational tactics may have worked. The gap has spread too far and kids are motivated differently. Basketball players now are more ingrained with the And1 culture and it takes a different set of motivators to get those bad habits out.

ya maybe i am playing the race card but am i racist at all? Hell no..my two best friends are black..I know about teams in the south..i played against of the best in PA...crap..i forgot their name..we played them every year at the Ediboro Summer Tournament...General McClane i think their name was...best school we ever played against besides Mcquad back when they were #2 in the nation. but anyways,all white..all listened to the coach..and did u not read any of my post? you're saying exactly what i said...These kids in newark see Lebron running and dunking and dwight howard blocking 8 shots a night and they have that mind set they can do that..which is good and a negative..not a bad thing to hustle and go after the ball but bad that they dont think stopping a guy going baseline or playing the passing lines are better than dunking or blocking a shot while the team recovers the ball and still gets a second chance shot..

Coach C can still coach..i know he has been running the same damn plays back in 1986 but he still can coach but not these kids...Coach Havrilla will do a great job but I was all for Coach Laurer from Geneva to come back and take over...The greatest coach i've ever had!!!! such a great coach

[EaglePride]

did u happen to go check out the AAU tourny in buffalo this weekend? maybe we're talking about the same thing? Ben Holt Jr on Newark played..his team made the championships...he is a a 6'1 guard who can JUMP out of the gym

Is Ben playing for Central Western again this year? My son played for Central Western and got to scrimmage against Ben and Trevis Green alot, great kids. I noticed Ben plays more of a defensive role for Newark but his offensive skills are not to shabby.

[managerial12]

Is Ben playing for Central Western again this year? My son played for Central Western and got to scrimmage against Ben and Trevis Green alot, great kids. I noticed Ben plays more of a defensive role for Newark but his offensive skills are not to shabby.

i'm not quite sure...I played cards with Ben Senior all the time when i'm home and i'm around lil ben all the time..great kid..so athletic...can really go after the ball...ben can't shoot too well but can drive and dunk with ease...he also makes some good decisions and really gets the ball to Javon nicely during the year

my friend, scotty smith, told me that he went and watched lil ben this past weekend in buffalo for an AAU tourny and said they made the finals but lost

[flwball11]

Is Ben playing for Central Western again this year? My son played for Central Western and got to scrimmage against Ben and Trevis Green alot, great kids. I noticed Ben plays more of a defensive role for Newark but his offensive skills are not to shabby.

what age division, i almost played on central western last year

[EaglePride]

what age division, i almost played on central western last year

15's, I think your name even made the roster, you would have liked it. Went to Indiana and Ohio played against some real talented kids.

[flwball11]

yeah i noticed my name was on the website, but ive been playing Empire Dragons for a while. Since 7th grade

[EaglePride]

yeah i noticed my name was on the website, but ive been playing Empire Dragons for a while. Since 7th grade

I looked into Empire Dragons but Central Western plays such an expanded area, NY, PA, NJ, Indiana and Ohio. The travel is interesting and it is fun to check out the talented kids from different states. Your name was on the roster so you obviously made the cuts, you would have had a great time.

[flwball11]

yeah im sure i would of had good time playing there

[edes]

i also agree on that...thats where i think javon is acceling over others..because he plays AAU all the time and dominates and wins...I like how John Wallace plays in his own age category..he could have thrown him onto dane miller's team and probably done ok but not great against kids 2 years older than him, strong and taller

Javon needs to stop playing in his age group. Last year he played 15 and under (he turned 16 in October). Basically he was dominating 14-15 year old future D3 players. All the good 15 year olds were playing 17 and under. He needs to play with people his grade or older so he can truly see how he stacks up against D1 players. Hope he makes it but he has to play against the best. Someone compared him to DeJuan Blair. Maybe against 14 and 15 year olds, but I just don't see it. While he played well against Dane, Dane is not a post player. He is a 6-7 point forward. Last summer at a rochester camp, Javon had to play against a 6-8 strong sophomore from out of town, and the guy demolished Javon. This is his last chance to prove he can play against elite players. Good luck and best wishes to him.

[DrewVT6]

Javon needs to stop playing in his age group. Last year he played 15 and under (he turned 16 in October). Basically he was dominating 14-15 year old future D3 players. All the good 15 year olds were playing 17 and under. He needs to play with people his grade or older so he can truly see how he stacks up against D1 players. Hope he makes it but he has to play against the best. Someone compared him to DeJuan Blair. Maybe against 14 and 15 year olds, but I just don't see it. While he played well against Dane, Dane is not a post player. He is a 6-7 point forward. Last summer at a rochester camp, Javon had to play against a 6-8 strong sophomore from out of town, and the guy demolished Javon. This is his last chance to prove he can play against elite players. Good luck and best wishes to him.

I don't know where you got your information from, but he played in his age bracket at nationals, but at other times he played with the 17s team that included Miller, Dillard, Jonny Benjamin, CJ Russell, Thomas Bell etc. He played with the 17s last weekend and helped Upstate Elite win their King of NY tournament against some very good competition from the Albany City Rocks, Grassroots Canada (considered a top 5 program in North America), York (PA) Ballers and Franchise Ballers. He did very well against many taller, heavier D1 prospects (Will Regan from Nichols was one of them). (By the way if you ever get the chance check out the Grassroots Canada 16s and 17s teams. They are phenomenal!)

[managerial12]

i agree with drew...he has been playing some top level competition..i mean, Newark beat Jamestown and Corning West..who were ranked in the state of class AA...and he also has played against some good competition in AAU..

[edes]

i agree with drew...he has been playing some top level competition..i mean, Newark beat Jamestown and Corning West..who were ranked in the state of class AA...and he also has played against some good competition in AAU..

But they are not D1 players. There's a big difference between playing good H.S. players and playing elite D1 players (types of players that are going to the schools Javon wants to go to, like Syracuse). Jamestown, Corning West and his AAU team of Dillard, Miller (who is the real thing) and the others are not elite players. And while You guys are knowledgeable and I have a lot of respect for your posts, last year Jovan mainly played with Upstate Elite against 15 year olds.

[edes]

I don't know where you got your information from, but he played in his age bracket at nationals, but at other times he played with the 17s team that included Miller, Dillard, Jonny Benjamin, CJ Russell, Thomas Bell etc. He played with the 17s last weekend and helped Upstate Elite win their King of NY tournament against some very good competition from the Albany City Rocks, Grassroots Canada (considered a top 5 program in North America), York (PA) Ballers and Franchise Ballers. He did very well against many taller, heavier D1 prospects (Will Regan from Nichols was one of them). (By the way if you ever get the chance check out the Grassroots Canada 16s and 17s teams. They are phenomenal!)


Yes Grassroots is a great program. First Canadian team to win Nationals at Vegas. Ton of D1 players from their program. Jovan needs to keep playing 17's to maximize his exposure. Last year he played 15U (maybe 16U) at nationals.

[redbull15]

we should probably rename this the official javon mcrae thread

[managerial12]

But they are not D1 players. There's a big difference between playing good H.S. players and playing elite D1 players (types of players that are going to the schools Javon wants to go to, like Syracuse). Jamestown, Corning West and his AAU team of Dillard, Miller (who is the real thing) and the others are not elite players. And while You guys are knowledgeable and I have a lot of respect for your posts, last year Jovan mainly played with Upstate Elite against 15 year olds.

i understand that..i was just giving examples..people just think he is just playing these bums in the FLE and he isn't...newark actually recently has been trying to schedule games against really good competition in rochester but for some reason, no teams wanted to play them...newark was trying to host a tournament this year and asked all the big programs in rochester..east, aquinas, rush, and several others and none replied that they wanted to come and play...idk if it was due to them wanting to play other teams or maybe afraid? I couldn't tell you...

he played in his age group in nationals because its his age group...and who wouldnt their own AAU team to come back and have a national title under their belt...can't play the coaches or him for that

[sportslaws]

Where do you guys come up with this stuff? Javon turned 16 in November. The only 15U team he played with is Upstate Elite because of the family connection with John Wallace. He has played with M33M and Donyell Marshal Foundation the list goes on and on. THIS YEAR SO FAR - He played with M33M took home the chip at the Shoot Out.King of NY 17U his team took home the chip, I heard about the tourny at Rutgers this weekend. He played 17U and his team took home the chip. Obviously we have a lot of "opinions" on this site. Let's start backing them with facts. Dane and Javon are clearly the best two players in this area. Let's try supporting them!!!!

[managerial12]

Where do you guys come up with this stuff? Javon turned 16 in November. The only 15U team he played with is Upstate Elite because of the family connection with John Wallace. He has played with M33M and Donyell Marshal Foundation the list goes on and on. THIS YEAR SO FAR - He played with M33M took home the chip at the Shoot Out.King of NY 17U his team took home the chip, I heard about the tourny at Rutgers this weekend. He played 17U and his team took home the chip. Obviously we have a lot of "opinions" on this site. Let's start backing them with facts. Dane and Javon are clearly the best two players in this area. Let's try supporting them!!!!

exactly...Javon actually missed the Newark Basketball Banquet because he was gone to an AAU tourny....I actually didn't know he changed or can change teams...As i posted before, he is turning 17 this year

[sportslaws]

I just got wind that mccrea may be moving to boston ma. has anyone heard this?I guess it would make since because he is now playing with the NE Playaz.

http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/758/New-England-Playaz-Take-Spring-Fling-Title.php

http://nehoopnews.com/news/223/NE-Playaz-make-statement-in-NJ-Playaz-Spring-Fling.php

I know he just got an offer from UMASS. Has anyone heard anything about him moving this year?

[hoopfan33]

I do not know if he is moving - the article in the link said that he was from Newark, not anywhere from New England.

I also want to say that both Dane and Javon are very talented athletes. As a player you do not attract the attention that they get from scouts by having all of the flaws and shortcommings that have been highlighted. Division I, II and III scouts know what they are talking about. The are always evaluating talent - you are not offered scholarships unless several people see you and like your ability and even a thing called upside. Dane and Javon will improve their shooting ability and fine tune their skills at the next level. If they do not work at their game - then they will be passed by. That is how it works - congratualtions to both of them.

[managerial12]

I just got wind that mccrea may be moving to boston ma. has anyone heard this?I guess it would make since because he is now playing with the NE Playaz.

http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/758/New-England-Playaz-Take-Spring-Fling-Title.php

http://nehoopnews.com/news/223/NE-Playaz-make-statement-in-NJ-Playaz-Spring-Fling.php

I know he just got an offer from UMASS. Has anyone heard anything about him moving this year?

no idea but i was just at Ron Ceravalo's retirement party with literally everyone from newark and it was not mentioned once and if this was true or even a rumor, that would be the main talk of the party. I have heard that he wanted to leave or John Wallace Senior was telling him to but he has alot of family in this area and he is very family-oriented so i dont know.

i personally think he is playing with NE playaz to get better watched and seen more..isn't that a pretty big AAU program? no AAU program around here are talented or good enough to go deep so might as well join a team that will go far

[DrewVT6]

The are always evaluating talent - you are not offered scholarships unless several people see you numerous times and like your ability and even a thing called upside. Dane and Javon will improve their shooting ability and fine tune their skills at the next level. If they do not work at their game - then they will be passed by. That is how it works - congratualtions to both of them.

fixed your post.

[managerial12]

Six-foot-six, 230-pound power forward said he has heard from Georgetown, Pittsburgh, Nevada-Las Vegas and Syracuse

regardless if its just heard from or what not..pretty impressive list thus far

[flhoops]

Six-foot-six, 230-pound power forward said he has heard from Georgetown, Pittsburgh, Nevada-Las Vegas and Syracuse

regardless if its just heard from or what not..pretty impressive list thus far

"heard from" means absolutely nothing. Kids must understand that at that level they are not being "recruited" until the school is willing to spend one of their campus visits on them. All the letters, phone calls, texts are just a tease. Until they pay for the visit you can't be sure they are really interested........PS, unless McRea grows at leaast 2 more inches there is no way he's getting a scholarship to any of the schools mentioned.

[sportslaws]

Guess where mccrea was this weekend? GEORGETOWN University......I guess this means he is NOT hearing from these schools. By the way, I spoke with him and his mother yesterday. He didnt want to list any schools but was forced to say. He wants to keep his recruiting quiet. NOW I SEE WHY! He also met with the Rutgers coaches last week. You guys love to hate!!! I hope Mccrea reads these blogs. This way he can have the last laugh.

[flhoops]

Guess where mccrea was this weekend? GEORGETOWN University......I guess this means he is NOT hearing from these schools. By the way, I spoke with him and his mother yesterday. He didnt want to list any schools but was forced to say. He wants to keep his recruiting quiet. NOW I SEE WHY! He also met with the Rutgers coaches last week. You guys love to hate!!! I hope Mccrea reads these blogs. This way he can have the last laugh.

..yes he could have been at G'Town. Visiting the campus at his own expense. Do you really think they are going to offer a scholarship to a 6'6" post player? Miller got a scholarship to a school that hasn't been to the NCAA tourney in years...but at 6'7" he has some perimeter skills. Watching Mcrea I see no evidence of perimeter skills. Yes you can all moan about his coach, made him play in the post, couldn't get him the ball, etc. but even watching him warm ups he shoots a set shot from the perimeter. Now if he grows 2 more inches I can believe some of the hype.

[devster5534]

I entirely agree with the post above mine. Him being at Georgetown doesn't mean anything. Trust me. I have my sources. He certainly will not be offered by Syracuse. On a side note, he was at SU's Elite Camp and didn't stand out one bit versus the high-major recruits there. If he can't stand out at a summer camp where the talent pool wasn't all of the best players in the country, how does he expect to land a D1 scholarship to a powerhouse. Not saying Scout.com knows everything, but he isn't even ranked on their site. I think it's funny how, like mentioned above, Dane Miller is going to Rutgers and he has far more athletic ability, yet Javon McCrea thinks he can play at the elite programs.

[flwball11]

Most likely Javon will end up at an MAAC school, but that doesn't mean that he isn't getting looks at bigger schools.

And who are your sources

[DrewVT6]

D1 coaches aren't allowed to watch AAU tournaments yet this year. McCrea is about the hit the circuits in the all important, "Summer after junior year" U17 phase and we'll find out from there who wants to offer him. I think a lot of you guys will be surprised who is seriously interested.

[flwball11]

Well I wish the best for him, and I am very interested to see where he ends up

[DrewVT6]

I think another guy who might start making some noise this summer is Mandell Thomas (R-H).

Does anyone know where Marcus Hoy is looking to go?

[managerial12]

I entirely agree with the post above mine. Him being at Georgetown doesn't mean anything. Trust me. I have my sources. He certainly will not be offered by Syracuse. On a side note, he was at SU's Elite Camp and didn't stand out one bit versus the high-major recruits there. If he can't stand out at a summer camp where the talent pool wasn't all of the best players in the country, how does he expect to land a D1 scholarship to a powerhouse. Not saying Scout.com knows everything, but he isn't even ranked on their site. I think it's funny how, like mentioned above, Dane Miller is going to Rutgers and he has far more athletic ability, yet Javon McCrea thinks he can play at the elite programs.

i agree he isnt going to syracuse...for some reason syracuse is starting to become a big time powerhouse with recruits and this 2010 class has the promise to be top 5...now, i do see him at a UMASS or maybe even a smaller big east school. Regardless, being contacted by these big schools say something...i could just imagine all the littler schools who are drooling over him now..

and im working on getting him onto scout.com..my buddy works for a news paper down in north carolina and pretty much runs the basketball section...he knows more about john wall than anyone around the country aside from his parents and coach..anyways, he has a connection on scout.com and i posted him the youtube video, all the awards he won and what he is averaging...he thinks by the end of the summer if not committed, will be just like dane, as a three star recruit and if he moves up to 6'8 or bigger, he will b e a 4 star...and i trust this guy over any one of u...so take it or leave it

[devster5534]

all you need to do is contact Dave Telep on scout.com...if Javon was such a hot prospect he'd be on there already

[managerial12]

all you need to do is contact Dave Telep on scout.com...if Javon was such a hot prospect he'd be on there already

did javon do something personal to you because wow, i've never seen or read someone who is more negative or has more hate towards this kid

[devster5534]

did javon do something personal to you because wow, i've never seen or read someone who is more negative or has more hate towards this kid

No I don't know him personally. I just was shocked at what the AGR description said. I only know him based off his playing ability.

[managerial12]

No I don't know him personally. I just was shocked at what the AGR description said. I only know him based off his playing ability.

have u seen him play these FLE scrum teams or when they have played some talent? because if u dont know, he is very team-orientated...he likes when he isn't dominating the whole game...

[devster5534]

have u seen him play these FLE scrum teams or when they have played some talent? because if u dont know, he is very team-orientated...he likes when he isn't dominating the whole game...

k bud, all i've heard over and over is excuses...im done with this...we'll see in a year

[managerial12]

k bud, all i've heard over and over is excuses...im done with this...we'll see in a year

i have no excuses for the kid. i wish him well..i play with and against him often when i'm home when coach c has his varsity team scrimmage his old players so i think i know more about the kid than anyone else on this board

[devster5534]

i have no excuses for the kid. i wish him well..i play with and against him often when i'm home when coach c has his varsity team scrimmage his old players so i think i know more about the kid than anyone else on this board

that explains everything...newark bias

[overnback]

that explains everything...newark bias

doesn't explain why you're so jealous, and if that's not it, why you think your opinion of his abilities is so much more astute than the guys that get paid for it.
Kinda harsh dude.

[managerial12]

that explains everything...newark bias

i'm from newark but in no way do i have bias for the kid. i have more bias towards tyshawn stephens than Javon..i'm not friends with him..i am alot older than the kid..we have nothing in common but you talk about this kid like he is terrible or something?

he is the best player in section v now that dane miller is gone (and surprisingly, javon destroyed him in a scrimmage so their is argument that he is better but we wont go there)..kid averages over 20 points, over 12 rebounds and just over 5 blocks a game and you dismiss his game? thats sad

but u must be smarter than these division one schools who are recruiting him though right?

[devster5534]

i'm from newark but in no way do i have bias for the kid. i have more bias towards tyshawn stephens than Javon..i'm not friends with him..i am alot older than the kid..we have nothing in common but you talk about this kid like he is terrible or something?

he is the best player in section v now that dane miller is gone (and surprisingly, javon destroyed him in a scrimmage so their is argument that he is better but we wont go there)..kid averages over 20 points, over 12 rebounds and just over 5 blocks a game and you dismiss his game? thats sad

but u must be smarter than these division one schools who are recruiting him though right?

Never did I say he was a bad player. All I have stated is that he wasn't of the caliber of the schools mentioned in the AGR description. Didn't once say he was a bad player.

[devster5534]

doesn't explain why you're so jealous, and if that's not it, why you think your opinion of his abilities is so much more astute than the guys that get paid for it.
Kinda harsh dude.

Who is getting paid that I tried overriding their opinion? Don't know what you're referring to...

If you're talking about scout.com, I haven't disagreed with anything. In fact I would agree because he isn't listed on scout.com

[sportslaws]

I usually wait until someone makes a complete idot of themselves then I reply but this was too tempting.
I am sure everyone is aware of Carmelo Anthony right? Well guess what, he was a nobody in the basketball sector until he went to prep school and then 'Cuse picked him up right? I am sure there are several others but I am not sure who you are familiar with in this area.

My point is that Scout.com and other websites knew nothing about him until prep school. Hummmmm... I guess they dont know everything about every player huh. By the way, recruitung is all about who you know and not your ability.

[sportslaws]

I also forgot to mention....Why would a player travel so many hours to "visit" a school? Why would a basketball coach let a student "visit" a school just to look good? Especially during tournament play? But you are right. you all know everything.

This is McCrea's summer. The schools listed are legitimately recruitng him, amongst others. However, he must step it up. Unfortunatley, Newark and Rochester are not schools that D1 leagues actively recruit from. Coaches are aware of that. Newark coach didnt schedule a game against good competition (james-dewitt). Players from other areas are more skilled. When McCrea gets props from other leagues it proves that he belongs here.

I am still hearing that he is moving to Mass. His AAU coach is pushing him to leave newark because of coaching.

For the haters....the only school I have not talked to was 'cuse. All others are actively recruiting him.

I was told that he did not want to go to 'cuse because of Wallace.

[sportslaws]

where are they going?


Tyshun Stephen?
Tyler Patterson?
Chad Dillard?
Dan Wallbilling?
Jerrold brooks?

and Where are they now?
Rueben Balkum?
Bobby Bell?
Jaanai Beckford?
Jason Corletta?
Sean Michele?
Zederick Wilson?
Terrell Moore?
Derek Wofley?
Brian Benson?

[devster5534]

I also forgot to mention....Why would a player travel so many hours to "visit" a school? Why would a basketball coach let a student "visit" a school just to look good? Especially during tournament play? But you are right. you all know everything.

This is McCrea's summer. The schools listed are legitimately recruitng him, amongst others. However, he must step it up. Unfortunatley, Newark and Rochester are not schools that D1 leagues actively recruit from. Coaches are aware of that. Newark coach didnt schedule a game against good competition (james-dewitt). Players from other areas are more skilled. When McCrea gets props from other leagues it proves that he belongs here.

I am still hearing that he is moving to Mass. His AAU coach is pushing him to leave newark because of coaching.

For the haters....the only school I have not talked to was 'cuse. All others are actively recruiting him.

I was told that he did not want to go to 'cuse because of Wallace.

u make it seem like mccrea could go to cuse if he wanted to...that's incorrect. they arent even interested in him.

as for the carmelo anthony post, you are incorrect. He was known in the basketball sector before going to Oak Hill. He played on Towson Catholic his first three years of high school ball. His third year there he was named The Baltimore Sun's metro player of the year in 2001, as well as Baltimore Catholic League player of the year. That's the same Baltimore Catholic League that has produced Donte Greene, Juan Dixon, Jack McClinton, Ricky Harris, Alexsander Pavlovic, Rudy Gay, and Kenny Hasbrouck. And that's just present day players. But you're right, I gues being the Baltimore Catholic League player of the year BEFORE HE WENT TO PREP SCHOOL means nothing. Apparently he wasn't noticed.

[sportslaws]

mccrea has a lot of awards in the area buffalo-cuse. BUT according to you, he is not ranked.My point is neither was Anthony amongst others. He got a lot of attention in his area (like mccrea) but was not ranked until prep school.

[sportslaws]

'cuse does want mccrea. McCrea wants to go to another school. Again, Wallace is VERY MUCH in his life. He wants to make his own mark, not live up to Wallace.

[devster5534]

mccrea has a lot of awards in the area buffalo-cuse. BUT according to you, he is not ranked.My point is neither was Anthony amongst others. He got a lot of attention in his area (like mccrea) but was not ranked until prep school.

dude u're trying to tell me a five star player wasn't ranked until his senior year? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.

[devster5534]

'cuse does want mccrea. McCrea wants to go to another school. Again, Wallace is VERY MUCH in his life. He wants to make his own mark, not live up to Wallace.

Actually, cuse does NOT want mccrea. I am in the know and if you PM me i will tell you exactly how I know, but i can assure you they aren't going after him. you're humoring me by saying they are

[managerial12]

Cuse wont go after him for their 2010 class. if he goes to prep school and opts for the 2011 class, than i bet they will be in the running for him...because this 2010 class is potentially #1 ranking and they only have two other schollys for that class and one is handed out to Knight aka the best player in the nation and Doron Lamb, the 2nd or 3rd best guard in the naiton.

u don't have any insider info on Javon so dont that mess...If you would realize that he has the body of a pf for the college game..240lbs of muscle is pretty ****ing good...

and yes newark doesn't schedule games against JD because they couldnt beat them....newark does not have the talent to beat them but if you think Javon wouldn't put up stats about them, you're wrong

and all that crap about Javon and wallace and wants to make his own mark is completely false...Syracuse is his dream school..if they offered, he goes...He's stated this many many times..but i see Javon at Michigan...even though its far from his family, they have showed the most interest and even has came to a practice, and game

[flhoops]

'cuse does want mccrea. McCrea wants to go to another school. Again, Wallace is VERY MUCH in his life. He wants to make his own mark, not live up to Wallace.


..this is just nonsense. Just stop with the talk that Mcrea is a big time recruit. He is a 6'6" player who is athletic, has good timing to block shots, and can score around the basket....against players SMALLER than him. He has shown no perimeter skills what so ever , which he would need to play in the Big East. Again I ask..what schools have used one of their allotted, fully paid at their expense, campus visits on him? If they do this they are serious about recruiting him...until they do they are not. I've heard that Coach Ceravolo was totally taken out of the recruiting by the family, thus the only info being given is by the family who could say he is being recruited by anyone.

[managerial12]

dude u're trying to tell me a five star player wasn't ranked until his senior year? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.

actually sportslaw is almsot right on...melo was a 3 star until he went to oak hill...than he posted up to a 5 star..just to let u know

[flhoops]

Cuse wont go after him for their 2010 class. if he goes to prep school and opts for the 2011 class, than i bet they will be in the running for him...because this 2010 class is potentially #1 ranking and they only have two other schollys for that class and one is handed out to Knight aka the best player in the nation and Doron Lamb, the 2nd or 3rd best guard in the naiton.

u don't have any insider info on Javon so dont that mess...If you would realize that he has the body of a pf for the college game..240lbs of muscle is pretty ****ing good...

and yes newark doesn't schedule games against JD because they couldnt beat them....newark does not have the talent to beat them but if you think Javon wouldn't put up stats about them, you're wrong

and all that crap about Javon and wallace and wants to make his own mark is completely false...Syracuse is his dream school..if they offered, he goes...He's stated this many many times..but i see Javon at Michigan...even though its far from his family, they have showed the most interest and even has came to a practice, and game

...Michigan came to a practice & game? I spoke with the newark coaches at sectional finals & they said they had no idea who was recruiting him??????

[managerial12]

..this is just nonsense. Just stop with the talk that Mcrea is a big time recruit. He is a 6'6" player who is athletic, has good timing to block shots, and can score around the basket....against players SMALLER than him. He has shown no perimeter skills what so ever , which he would need to play in the Big East. Again I ask..what schools have used one of their allotted, fully paid at their expense, campus visits on him? If they do this they are serious about recruiting him...until they do they are not. I've heard that Coach Ceravolo was totally taken out of the recruiting by the family, thus the only info being given is by the family who could say he is being recruited by anyone.

well one, you cant do official visits till your senior year so he couldnt have made official visits...

and Coach ceravolo is out of the recruiting because he is not the coach anymore and Javon and him do not see eye to eye..they do not like each other...BUT ceravolo was in the recruiting process and he has stated that many of the teams mentioned are true including Michigan

[managerial12]

...Michigan came to a practice & game? I spoke with the newark coaches at sectional finals & they said they had no idea who was recruiting him??????

Yes they did..From 3 different players on the team, Michigan was there to watch...

and please tell me what coaches said that? and I'm pretty sure u didn't take to no one because 1. i know the assistants wouldn't even talk about a kid period and i know 2. Ceravolo wouldn't comment after that terrible lose about who was recrutiing him. I know for a fact they wouldnt even discuss this after that terrible game..so please stop lying

[PaulHarris]

where are they going?


Tyshun Stephen?
Tyler Patterson?
Chad Dillard?
Dan Wallbilling?
Jerrold brooks?

and Where are they now?
Rueben Balkum?
Bobby Bell?
Jaanai Beckford?
Jason Corletta?
Sean Michele?
Zederick Wilson?
Terrell Moore?
Derek Wofley?
Brian Benson?

Stephens I think is going to Naz

[flhoops]

Yes they did..From 3 different players on the team, Michigan was there to watch...

and please tell me what coaches said that? and I'm pretty sure u didn't take to no one because 1. i know the assistants wouldn't even talk about a kid period and i know 2. Ceravolo wouldn't comment after that terrible lose about who was recrutiing him. I know for a fact they wouldnt even discuss this after that terrible game..so please stop lying

..you really need to stop listening to what 17 and 18 year olds tell you and repeating them as facts...I do think that Prep school would be a good option for MCrea. He may still grow. Right now he is not skilled enough to play on the perimeter and not big or tough enough to play in the post at a major level. Michigan? In Bielen's system you have to shoot the three. When I watch MCrea he shoots a set shot from the perimter. Do you have any idea how skilled 6'6" guys in the Big Ten are?

[managerial12]

..you really need to stop listening to what 17 and 18 year olds tell you and repeating them as facts...I do think that Prep school would be a good option for MCrea. He may still grow. Right now he is not skilled enough to play on the perimeter and not big or tough enough to play in the post at a major level. Michigan? In Bielen's system you have to shoot the three. When I watch MCrea he shoots a set shot from the perimter. Do you have any idea how skilled 6'6" guys in the Big Ten are?

ok.so you were obviously lying about talking to the coaches after the sections final game..so let that be known...look at Blair..he is undersized but has the strength and arm length to play college ball and dominated at that.

i'm not saying Javon is anywhere near Blair status but right now, Javon could go to a MAC, A-10 school right now and play...he is not a perimeter guy at all..he is 240lbs..what 240lb guy besides lebron plays on the perimeter...he is only 17..and is still growing..he gets to 6'8 with shoes on...he is going to the big east/ big 10...

but i also think wow..he is doing very very well in AAU..playing against big players...6'8's and bigger and holding his own...weird huh?

and i'm going to listen to those 17 or 18 year olds because they would know more than anyone...

anyways, i'm done with this..this kid can barely see a rated R movie but has more hate than anyone i've ever seen or met and the people judging him have seen him once and maybe none at all and have never met him

[PaulHarris]

Just by reading a few of these posts, It seems Javon is getting a lot of attention. When you are named the best of a certain area, comes the hate too. I wish him luck

JLoson. Which one are you? Justin? If you are, You were one hell of a shooter when I watched you guys play. It seems you know a lot about Javon and I would take your knowledge over these other people but that is just my judgement

[devster5534]

actually sportslaw is almsot right on...melo was a 3 star until he went to oak hill...than he posted up to a 5 star..just to let u know

i think it would be safe to say that a 3 star prospect is known...brandon triche is known around basketball circles and he isn't any higher than 3 stars, yet he was nominated for the McD's All-Star Game

[devster5534]

Just by reading a few of these posts, It seems Javon is getting a lot of attention. When you are named the best of a certain area, comes the hate too. I wish him luck

JLoson. Which one are you? Justin? If you are, You were one hell of a shooter when I watched you guys play. It seems you know a lot about Javon and I would take your knowledge over these other people but that is just my judgement

well i guess that explains why some of JLoson's posts are a little absurd...sticking up for a teammate.

I agree with whoever said that he doesn't fit in Michigan's system. Those guys, 1-5, can shoot the ball and Javon is not that consistent. Don't see that happening.

I would just like to reiterate the fact that Javon won't ever be offered by SU. Also, as for the two scholarships being open, Doron Lamb isn't even in the conversation anymore. The SU staff is staying away from him as there are too many other variables involved in his recruitment. Brandon Knight is a stretch but still has a small probability. With the soon addition of Tobias Harris, along with the plethora of forwards coming to Cuse in the near future, Javon won't stand a chance.

[PaulHarris]

well i guess that explains why some of JLoson's posts are a little absurd...sticking up for a teammate.

I agree with whoever said that he doesn't fit in Michigan's system. Those guys, 1-5, can shoot the ball and Javon is not that consistent. Don't see that happening.

I would just like to reiterate the fact that Javon won't ever be offered by SU. Also, as for the two scholarships being open, Doron Lamb isn't even in the conversation anymore. The SU staff is staying away from him as there are too many other variables involved in his recruitment. Brandon Knight is a stretch but still has a small probability. With the soon addition of Tobias Harris, along with the plethora of forwards coming to Cuse in the near future, Javon won't stand a chance.

Lamb is still in the conversation. Knight is not a small possibily when he has named Syracuse, Duke and Uconn is favorites so far. We'll see if Tobias comes to Syracuse. He is also an undersized PF.

and JLoson is not a teammate I don't think. If he is who I guessed, he played over 6 years ago

[PaulHarris]

i think it would be safe to say that a 3 star prospect is known...brandon triche is known around basketball circles and he isn't any higher than 3 stars, yet he was nominated for the McD's All-Star Game

Actually, I don't think Triche was ever nominated for the big McD All-Star game. I know he won NY player of the year but he never had a chance for the big game and anyone outside of syracuse fans and upstate ny, do not know who Triche is. He didn't play enough high-end AAU and was on a low-key team that only NY knows about

[sportslaws]

to tell you WHO offered him a full ride.When I spoke to mccrea and his mom a week or so ago, they told me that he wanted to keep it private for NOW. I will say this, MANY of you (haters on this site) are in for a HUGE surprise. All of McCrea's supporters will congratulate him.

As for 'Cuse, last years NYS Mr. Basketball, Mookie Jones, had no play time this season. Also, there is a lot of drama on that team. McCrea has the inside information. AGAIN, he can go to 'Cuse but the Wallace connection is to strong.

For the Haters: McCrea is 6'6 238lbs and is playing on a Nationally Ranked AAU team.the AAU coaches are drooling over him because of his talents. I bet when mccrea does make his college announcement, many of you will not be around for comment. By the way, this kid is going to college for free. It could be MCC, Niagara,Buff, Pitt, UNLV, Gtown etc. The fact that he is going to college and then going for free is an accomplishment.

[sportslaws]

outside of a few comments, loson has been pretty accurate about mccrea.

he definately knows someone in the circle.

[devster5534]

Lamb is still in the conversation. Knight is not a small possibily when he has named Syracuse, Duke and Uconn is favorites so far. We'll see if Tobias comes to Syracuse. He is also an undersized PF.

and JLoson is not a teammate I don't think. If he is who I guessed, he played over 6 years ago

I'm telling you right now that Lamb is not in the conversation anymore. I have the most legitimate source you can have and better than anyone on this site. As for Knight, ya we're in his top three, but I just don't see it happening. And I will admit that is my personal opinion, not my source's. As for Tobias Harris, my legitimate source says he will be going to SU.

[devster5534]

Actually, I don't think Triche was ever nominated for the big McD All-Star game. I know he won NY player of the year but he never had a chance for the big game and anyone outside of syracuse fans and upstate ny, do not know who Triche is. He didn't play enough high-end AAU and was on a low-key team that only NY knows about

Actually Triche WAS nominated. (see link below) how can you say no one else knows about him when Georgetown and UCONN were heavily recruiting him?

http://blog.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2009/01/syracuse_recruit_brandon_trich.html

[devster5534]

to tell you WHO offered him a full ride.When I spoke to mccrea and his mom a week or so ago, they told me that he wanted to keep it private for NOW. I will say this, MANY of you (haters on this site) are in for a HUGE surprise. All of McCrea's supporters will congratulate him.

As for 'Cuse, last years NYS Mr. Basketball, Mookie Jones, had no play time this season. Also, there is a lot of drama on that team. McCrea has the inside information. AGAIN, he can go to 'Cuse but the Wallace connection is to strong.

For the Haters: McCrea is 6'6 238lbs and is playing on a Nationally Ranked AAU team.the AAU coaches are drooling over him because of his talents. I bet when mccrea does make his college announcement, many of you will not be around for comment. By the way, this kid is going to college for free. It could be MCC, Niagara,Buff, Pitt, UNLV, Gtown etc. The fact that he is going to college and then going for free is an accomplishment.

Actually, he couldn't go to Cuse. I have more inside information that McCrea will ever have and I'm not just saying that to try to be superior in this conversation. I truly have one of the ultimate sources. Like I said, PM me and you will find out that what I am saying is not a joke.

Yes, there was a lot of drama on the SU team this year, but most of it will be released when the trio leave school.

[PaulHarris]

Actually Triche WAS nominated. (see link below) how can you say no one else knows about him when Georgetown and UCONN were heavily recruiting him?

http://blog.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2009/01/syracuse_recruit_brandon_trich.html

look how many people made that nominated list..and they may have recruited him heavily but didn't offer him

[devster5534]

look how many people made that nominated list..and they may have recruited him heavily but didn't offer him

many people because it's nationwide. And yes they would've offered him if it wasn't such a no-brainer he would be going to Cuse

[PaulHarris]

many people because it's nationwide. And yes they would've offered him if it wasn't such a no-brainer he would be going to Cuse

How would it be a no-brainer? If they want the kid, they will offer and this is from my scout membership account and in no where was Uconn recruiting the kid. It was not a no-brainer he was going to syracuse.

School Interest Level Offer? Visit Date Signed LOI?
Syracuse Verbal Yes None
Georgetown No Interest No None
Pittsburgh No Interest No None
Rutgers No Interest No None
Saint John's (NY) No Interest No None
Vanderbilt No Interest No None
Villanova No Interest No None

and Dane Miller was getting looked at for the national McDonald game. Same with Alyssa Fenyn with the girl's one. Being nominated isn't a big deal. Hell, Sean Williams was dominated and he is doing great (sarcasm at it's finest)

[flhoops]

where are they going?


Tyshun Stephen?
Tyler Patterson?
Chad Dillard?
Dan Wallbilling?
Jerrold brooks?

and Where are they now?
Rueben Balkum?
Bobby Bell?
Jaanai Beckford?
Jason Corletta?
Sean Michele?
Zederick Wilson?
Terrell Moore?
Derek Wofley?
Brian Benson?

...I've got info on some

Balkum -- went to MCC but was off the team before the first game
Bell-- didn't graduate or get his GED, heard that a JUCO in Chicago has him enrolled in a high school there trying to graduate.
eckford -- at Houghton, averaged 6 pts. per game as freshman
Wilson -- went to GCC and was off the team before christmas
Moore-- went to GCC, was never on the team, went to FLCC in Jan. never on the team, dropped out
Wofley -- completed freshman year at Iona, scored 25 points total for the year.
Benson-- finished freshamn year at New Hampshire, scored 50 pts total for year.

[flhoops]

How would it be a no-brainer? If they want the kid, they will offer and this is from my scout membership account and in no where was Uconn recruiting the kid. It was not a no-brainer he was going to syracuse.

School Interest Level Offer? Visit Date Signed LOI?
Syracuse Verbal Yes None
Georgetown No Interest No None
Pittsburgh No Interest No None
Rutgers No Interest No None
Saint John's (NY) No Interest No None
Vanderbilt No Interest No None
Villanova No Interest No None

)

...It was widely known trhat Triche was a lock for Syracuse. Schools don't like to offer & get turned down. No reason to spend time & money on a kid who you know you're not going to get. If SU thinks the kid can play it's a good bet that others in the Big East did also but did not actively recruit him knowing he was going to SU.

[devster5534]

...It was widely known trhat Triche was a lock for Syracuse. Schools don't like to offer & get turned down. No reason to spend time & money on a kid who you know you're not going to get. If SU thinks the kid can play it's a good bet that others in the Big East did also but did not actively recruit him knowing he was going to SU.

Exactly what I meant, thank you. As for saying UCONN, I meant Georgetown and Villanova, even though I'm sure UCONN may have been interested early.

[managerial12]

news from the home town that Javon is making another unofficial trip very soon. to Pitt...

but it's pointless for him to be doing this since they don't have any interest in him :rolleyes: :confused:

[flhoops]

news from the home town that Javon is making another unofficial trip very soon. to Pitt...

but it's pointless for him to be doing this since they don't have any interest in him :rolleyes: :confused:


..well I'll be the first to admit that I was way off if McRea signs with a top 20 team but.....it was reported here that he visited Georgetwon. I think he was in DC to play in an AAU tourney so stopping by the Georgetown campus was possible. here is a link to Scout.com
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&pid=88&cfg=bb&yr=2010

it doesn't list him, but does list a class of 2010 6'8" player that has already signed with georgetwon and FIVE more players that are between 6'6" & 6'10" that has G'Town "in the running". Google McRea...only mention of him on the G'Town forum is a post generated from McRea himself listing G'Town as a school he's "heard from" in the AGR article. People have stated that they think he'll end up at Michigian....searched their forums. No mention of McRea, did just sign a 6'10" 2010 kid & are going after 6'9" Reagan kid from Nichols in Buffalo hard. Now if he grows 2 inches that's a different story. Right now I just find it hard to believe that any of the schools he mentioned are going to give a 6'6" post player a scholarship. They may be talking with him with the idea that he's young for his class, may grow now or go to prep school & grow, so they don't want to close doors.

[sportslaws]

let's see if this makes sense..McCrea will pay all this money to go and "visit" schools that are not recruiting him. He will travel far and wide just to look at a campus? What a joke?

Just so you know the Pitt coach was is Newark today. Mccrea was not in school either. You put two and two together.

Are you saying that since mccrea is not ranked he will not play d1 ball? Again, as far the ranking issue MANY players were not ranked but turned out to be very good D1 players. He has a big summer ahead of him still.Dont count him out yet.

I am not saying that Mccrea is the next michael jordan. I am saying that THIS KID HAS GREAT potiential.He has instincts that can not be taught.His hands are huge.He finishes around the basket. he has heart. he has an ok 12-15 foot jumper. Unfortunately he lives in Newark and the coach could not teach him. not sure what his parents were thinking. The kid is playing on raw talent.At 16 years old...this kid is a problem. There is this kid Javon Pinkston that I was watching. Mccrea dominated against him too a couple of weeks ago.

by the way i heard that on scout.com it lists that he is being recruited by Providence. I do not by into the ranking .com sites. I believe what I see. Some of these sites make you pay for horrible reviews.


Can we talk about another kid? I am sure there are other Great players in the area right?

[flhoops]

let's see if this makes sense..McCrea will pay all this money to go and "visit" schools that are not recruiting him. He will travel far and wide just to look at a campus? What a joke?

Just so you know the Pitt coach was is Newark today. Mccrea was not in school either. You put two and two together.

Are you saying that since mccrea is not ranked he will not play d1 ball? Again, as far the ranking issue MANY players were not ranked but turned out to be very good D1 players. He has a big summer ahead of him still.Dont count him out yet.

I am not saying that Mccrea is the next michael jordan. I am saying that THIS KID HAS GREAT potiential.He has instincts that can not be taught.His hands are huge.He finishes around the basket. he has heart. he has an ok 12-15 foot jumper. Unfortunately he lives in Newark and the coach could not teach him. not sure what his parents were thinking. The kid is playing on raw talent.At 16 years old...this kid is a problem. There is this kid Javon Pinkston that I was watching. Mccrea dominated against him too a couple of weeks ago.

by the way i heard that on scout.com it lists that he is being recruited by Providence. I do not by into the ranking .com sites. I believe what I see. Some of these sites make you pay for horrible reviews.


Can we talk about another kid? I am sure there are other Great players in the area right?


"coach could not teach him"? Yes I guess that Coach Ceravalo won 400 games, section V championships, and numerous coach-of-the-year awards because he couldn't teach the game. Yes I do think McRea is a DI player but not at the level being discussed. There is only one post player that I know of in the major conferences who is under 6'8" and that is Dujuan Blair....and Javon Mcrea is no Dujuan Blair.

[devster5534]

Mr. Collins,

I now know why you believe so highly in Javon McCrea. You are blatantly advertising him to coaches. What is your position with the kid?

[ching01]

Dan Banach from Avon is going to play at St. John Fisher alongside Ozell Franklin and Matt newman.

[managerial12]

and anyone who says a 6'6 post guy wouldnt be recruited by a Big East school?

please look at one of the better players to ever play in the big east

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=1404536

Adrian was 6'6 and 220lbs and was recruited to play PF and had offers from almost the same list as Javon has now...

CRAZY to think that a 6'6 player couldnt play in the big east?

this year, they had him listed as 6'7 with shoes on so he obviously is almost the same size as he was in HS...

Javon is the same size but has the arm length that Adrian also had but Javon is bigger than him..

[flhoops]

[QUOTE=sportslaws;133999]

Just so you know the Pitt coach was is Newark today. Mccrea was not in school either. You put two and two together.

QUOTE]

http://pittsburgh.scout.com/a.z?s=141&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&yr=2010


Here's a link to site that's tracking Pitt's class of 2010 recruiting. As you can see there are 12 players mentioned....McCrea isn't among them. Someone said Michigian was at practice & he'd likely go there....no mention of him on any of their boards, but there is a lot of info on them pursuing the regean kid from Nichols in Buffalo (6'9"). Georgetown has been mentioned...only mention of him there is from the D&C article where McCrea himself mentions Georgetown (Scout.com has them involved with 6 players over 6'6" FROM THE CLASS OF 2010). Can you see why I'm skeptical that McCrea is being recruited at the level some on this forum believe? It would just make sense that somewhere on the web there would be a mention of these schools recruiting him (other than what he said in the D&C article). Google "Will Regean..Nichols" & then Mcrea & you will see the difference. I DO believe that he is a DI player. Right now seems like a MACC school such as Siena, Canisus, etc. would be a good fit. Perhaps a year of prep school and 2 inches would result in him going higher.

[sportslaws]

see any schools on the web listing mccrea? You do not see him listed on any of the schools web sites. What's your point? Just because he is not listed yet doesnt mean he is not being recruited by the schools. Have any of you spoken to mccrea? get a grip.

When it does show up...all of you will treat him like you are doing dane miller. As it stands Dane is attending a big east school and you guys are still doubting his ability. saying he will not start, he will not get a lot of playing time, he will not dominate. in all of your eyes, these kids can not do anything right? It all sounds like jealousy to me. get a grip.

How do you know Dane will not succeed? Just like McCrea. the beauty of all of this is the unknown. All any of you can do is assume. and you know what they say about people who assume right? get a grip.

Try helping these kids.....Oh, I forgot, that may help them to succeed and we dont want that do we?

[DrewVT6]

Chad Dillard is going to Indian Hills CC in Iowa (D&C Article (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090513/SPORTS08/905130340/1026/RSS07)). They started the season last year as the #1 team in NJCAA D1 and have had numerous players go on to very successful NCAA D1 careers. If he makes the grades there, I'm sure he'll land at a decent D1 school in the next few years.

[flhoops]

Chad Dillard is going to Indian Hills CC in Iowa (D&C Article (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090513/SPORTS08/905130340/1026/RSS07)). They started the season last year as the #1 team in NJCAA D1 and have had numerous players go on to very successful NCAA D1 careers. If he makes the grades there, I'm sure he'll land at a decent D1 school in the next few years.

...this really surprised me. I didn't think any of the local JUCO DII's were interested (MCC. Alfred, GCC). To have him signed by a top DI JUCO is really surprising.

[UNCTarheels]

...this really surprised me. I didn't think any of the local JUCO DII's were interested (MCC. Alfred, GCC). To have him signed by a top DI JUCO is really surprising.

Rochester Native Chauncy Leslie went to the same school and ended up playing two years of D1 ball @ Iowa and I don't believe he was recruited heavily in this area either

[flhoops]

Rochester Native Chauncy Leslie went to the same school and ended up playing two years of D1 ball @ Iowa and I don't believe he was recruited heavily in this area either

Never saw Leslie play but have seen Dillard. I don't see him as any better (or not as good as) other Section V kids who have played D II & DIII local JUCO. Bradley Griffin, Ryan Henry, Tim Jackson, Rodgers (East), Belkum, Johnny Rogers, etc come to mind. I really thought Dillard had more college potential in football?

[UNCTarheels]

Never saw Leslie play but have seen Dillard. I don't see him as any better (or not as good as) other Section V kids who have played D II & DIII local JUCO. Bradley Griffin, Ryan Henry, Tim Jackson, Rodgers (East), Belkum, Johnny Rogers, etc come to mind. I really thought Dillard had more college potential in football?


well if Dillard has anywhere near the success that Leslie had he'll be doing ok, Looks Like Chauncey has played proffessionally overseas since graduating from Iowa, playing in Egypt, Hungary, Syria, Germany and is currently playing in Asia

CHAUNCEY LESLIE basketball profile (http://www.asia-basket.com/player.asp?Cntry=UAE&PlayerID=32928&AmNotSure=1)

[UNCTarheels]

Ryan Creighton of Greenport , the all-time leading scorer in Long Island Basketball history, has accepted a full athletic scholorship to Franklin Pierce University of New Hampshire, a Division II school. Creighton, who scored 2,799 points in his five-year varsity career surpassed Kenny Wood of East Hampton this past season as Long Islands All time scoring leader.

[DrewVT6]

Ryan Creighton of Greenport , the all-time leading scorer in Long Island Basketball history, has accepted a full athletic scholorship to Franklin Pierce University of New Hampshire, a Division II school. Creighton, who scored 2,799 points in his five-year varsity career surpassed Kenny Wood of East Hampton this past season as Long Islands All time scoring leader.

Northeast 10 is a very good D2 basketball conference. Bentley has been very good lately and I believe Bryant (multiple D2 Final 4s) was part before moving up to D1. In the recent past St Anselms, St Rose and St Mikes were pretty good, too.

[GATownGreece23]

Chad is a very talented player with a hard work ethic on the court. If the competition is better than he is ready for then hes the type of kid that will live in the gym. I think Chad has more college potential than Dane Miller due to his work ethic. Chad responds better to pressure. I think he can make it to a small D1 school at least.

[UNCTarheels]

Jordan Heath-Irondequoit is going to Roberts Wesleyan

R.J Kalb from Greece-Athena is going to R.I.T

[sectionvbballfan1985]

Someone told me at an AAU tournament that Kevin Francis from BND and Patrick Coyle from Kearney are both playing at D'youville in Buffalo next year, anyone know whether that's true?

[fisher22]

Someone told me at an AAU tournament that Kevin Francis from BND and Patrick Coyle from Kearney are both playing at D'youville in Buffalo next year, anyone know whether that's true?

francis is going to sjfc for bball and football. his brother told me this.

[managerial12]

Tyshawn Stephens is going to Naz officially.

[UNCTarheels]

Seth Shay signs with Houghton (http://www.houghton.edu/sports/articles/s20090601mb-sethshay.html)

[bball1416]

Any news on this years senior class and where they're going?

[bball1416]

Casey Sheehan going to division 2 Daemen on a full scholarship.

[UNCTarheels]

PREP SCHOOL FOR KEARNEY’S GUARD: Blair Roberts, a 2009 All-Greater Rochester Basketball guard, plans to play at Trinity-Pawling School next school year.

Trinity Pawling is a boarding school downstate in Pawling.

Roberts, listed at 6-feet-3 inches and 185 pounds, averaged 12 points, 5.5 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 3.7 steals this past season at Kearney and was named to the Section V Class A2 All-Tournament Team.-D&C

[cleareyesfullheart]

when is the deadline? Isn't it May 15th or something like that? Or is it that the late signing period is May 15th to the 17th?


For D 3 there is not signing deadline.

[fisher22]

PREP SCHOOL FOR KEARNEY’S GUARD: Blair Roberts, a 2009 All-Greater Rochester Basketball guard, plans to play at Trinity-Pawling School next school year.

Trinity Pawling is a boarding school downstate in Pawling.

Roberts, listed at 6-feet-3 inches and 185 pounds, averaged 12 points, 5.5 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 3.7 steals this past season at Kearney and was named to the Section V Class A2 All-Tournament Team.-D&C

its like 40 grand to go there

[bball1416]

I heard Dylan Sherwood is going to prep school. So is Sheehan the only player from last years senior class playing anywhere?

[sectionvbballfan1985]

Jordan VanDunk from Dansville and CJ Hodge(?) from Gates are both going to D-3 Hilbert College in Buffalo.