Best Players Next Year?

[lcaa5]

Livingston county has a lot of talented seniors this year. Lauffer, Hunt, Shwartz, Parrot just to name a few. Who do you think are the best juniors in Livingston County this year?

[buster]

Livingston county has a lot of talented seniors this year. Lauffer, Hunt, Shwartz, Parrot just to name a few. Who do you think are the best juniors in Livingston County this year?

Matt McBride from Avon is one of the best Juniors.

[livcofan]

I think you have to look at the Avon guys (McBride, Housel, Phillips, Banach) as being some of the best seniors next year. Murphy from Hornell will also be somebody who's really good next year as a senior. Tones from Letchworth, Girolomo and Metz from Livonia...There should be a bunch of good ones.

[sec5bball9999]

tones, luzac, and roberts from letchworth. pretty much most of avon

[garnet21w]

D III:
York- Valentino, nash, Peglowski are the only juniors
Warsaw- Case starts and is decent
geneseo- Collevle is probably one of the best big men in DIII, pry the best
Keshequa- No idea, their whole team is seniors
Mt. Morris- Angel rossario and Moxely

DII:
Avon: everyone, seriously
Perry: Cox and Hendrickson
Letchworth: Tones and Roberts are all I remember
LeRoy: no clue
Pavilion: Gefrees and Elliot, sophmores, nasty

[PinkPowerRanger101]

Livingston county has a lot of talented seniors this year. Lauffer, Hunt, Shwartz, Parrot just to name a few. Who do you think are the best juniors in Livingston County this year?

ummm, try all of Avon's starters, even their bench would start for every other team in livingston county. it kind of pisses me off

[BathRamsFan]

Mike Rossi, Andre McCloud and Brett Sutryk should make for a very talented threesome at Bath next season. I'm just hoping the supporting cast around them continues to get better as well. The Rams only 2 losses in the last 9 games of this season were to Hornell. Looking forward to what next year brings.

[garnet21w]

ummm, try all of Avon's starters, even their bench would start for every other team in livingston county. it kind of pisses me off

I think that's a slight over exageration. Avon's big problem is that they are not very deep, in my opinion, wolcott is decent, and he's the main bench player, they have the starters who are amazing but I find it hard to believe that any of their bench would start over Hunt, Colleville, Messana, Parrot, Laufer, Owens, or Beumont

[Section5sportsguy]

So with Warsaw losing Parrot are they going to go from bad to "Holley Football" bad?

[Psychology]

Have you ever seen Warsaw play? It'd be a compliment to say they were a program like Holley football. I really don't get the problem. The coach seems good, but there's just no talent. It's kind of strange.

[lcaabasketball]

Have you ever seen Warsaw play? It'd be a compliment to say they were a program like Holley football. I really don't get the problem. The coach seems good, but there's just no talent. It's kind of strange.


The problem is with the commitment. There are probably one or two kids in that program that put any extra time during the offseason. It's not just with basketball..but most of their sports teams. Look at soccer and football..both in the bottom of LCAA every year. The only program that thrives annually is wrestling and that's probably because of the Paddock family and their close friends.

[soccerstud11]

D III:
York- Valentino, nash, Peglowski are the only juniors
Warsaw- Case starts and is decent
geneseo- Collevle is probably one of the best big men in DIII, pry the best
Keshequa- No idea, their whole team is seniors
Mt. Morris- Angel rossario and Moxely

DII:
Avon: everyone, seriously
Perry: Cox and Hendrickson
Letchworth: Tones and Roberts are all I remember
LeRoy: no clue
Pavilion: Gefrees and Elliot, sophmores, nasty
for leroy mike humphrey will be a major threat...he has been starting varsity since either 9th or 10th grade and scored over double digits almost every game this year

[soccerstud11]

The problem is with the commitment. There are probably one or two kids in that program that put any extra time during the offseason. It's not just with basketball..but most of their sports teams. Look at soccer and football..both in the bottom of LCAA every year. The only program that thrives annually is wrestling and that's probably because of the Paddock family and their close friends. couldn't have said it better myself. was thinking the same exact thing

[rrballer41]

all of avon is gonna be decent next year...especially with mcbride returning for his 7th year of high school

[rrballer41]

alot of kids from cal-mum are also returning. vokes is gonna tear up next year. he failed this year and should dominate since hes eligible for next season.fox is gonna be unstopable returning from a torn ACL injury. Brian Sinclair is gonna be dunking over everybody since he took the year off and grew to almost 6'7''. Jeremy Wilson..thats all you need to know. Spencer Feenstar will be the man on the other end of some alley-oops from returner Dave Naz.

If they beat avon like they should....class CC champions for 08!

[bugger]

The problem is with the commitment. There are probably one or two kids in that program that put any extra time during the offseason. It's not just with basketball..but most of their sports teams. Look at soccer and football..both in the bottom of LCAA every year. The only program that thrives annually is wrestling and that's probably because of the Paddock family and their close friends.

Warsaw has no program for youth Basketball and i don't think they want one. They push wrestling.

[Giles]

I do think Cal-Mum will be good next year. The Nasradinaj kid is a player and will put up good numbers. He and Wilson will be very tough to deal with all year. Coach Dickens is one of the best and his teams are always physical, fundamentally sound and tough.

Avon is obviously the favorite in the LCAA and rightfully so. It'll be interesting to see how they develop over the next year and as always with high schoolers, there seems to be off court things that happen.... namely girls who sometimes have an inverse effect on the performance of some players. (I'm only half kidding by the way). McBride, Housel, Phillips, Kessel, Banach as a starting five was outstanding this year.... and flat out scary next.

[rrballer41]

guys sorry about the post above...my insiders from cal-mum were mistaken...vokes DID NOT fail...dont know why they would have said that...but just thought i would correct that

[bugger]

Perry will have Cicero and Collings that will be Juniors next yr. They will need to be scorers.

[lcaa5]

I honestly do think McBride and Phillips are the two best players returning next year in the county. The unfortunate thing is that they arent going to get recognized like the Jeffries and Murphies because they dont put up amazing numbers. Banach Housel Kessel Upright all of them will chip in in one way or another and plus next year they should be beating teams by like 40 so they wont play that much espcially with the depth they have. Just keep that in mind.

[rrballer41]

yeah they will deff beat the warsaws and keshequas by 40 but they will have alot of competition next year there are very talented teams all across the county. i garantee they dont have another 20-0 season

[unc2059]

yeah they will deff beat the warsaws and keshequas by 40 but they will have alot of competition next year there are very talented teams all across the county. i garantee they dont have another 20-0 season

they killed every team in the division atlesat once with the exception of cal-mum. Now they're returning all but the back up point guard and also bringing up a group of sophomores who have never lost a basketball game while playing for a school team. However the odds of them going 20-0 are slim as they'll in theory pick games with bigger schools and better teams.

[garnet21w]

Avon will be great again next year, no doubt. But none of that matters if they don't finish again, which they will. Avon's team is gonna be tough, but several good teams will come out of Div. II. There are no laughable teams

[bronxbomberfan213]

The problem is with the commitment. There are probably one or two kids in that program that put any extra time during the offseason. It's not just with basketball..but most of their sports teams. Look at soccer and football..both in the bottom of LCAA every year. The only program that thrives annually is wrestling and that's probably because of the Paddock family and their close friends.



I really hope that when you are talking about their sports being at the bottom of the LCAA, you are only talking about the guy's teams. Because last time I checked the softball team was really great and their volleyball team could compete with some of the top teams in the LCAA.

[bronxbomberfan213]

Tones from letchworth will be a top player next year because he already helped lead them this year from the point position.

[hornets10]

D III:
York- Valentino, nash, Peglowski are the only juniors
Warsaw- Case starts and is decent
geneseo- Collevle is probably one of the best big men in DIII, pry the best
Keshequa- No idea, their whole team is seniors
Mt. Morris- Angel rossario and Moxely

DII:
Avon: everyone, seriously
Perry: Cox and Hendrickson
Letchworth: Tones and Roberts are all I remember
LeRoy: no clue
Pavilion: Gefrees and Elliot, sophmores, nasty

couple of others

york - galvin, hann only sophomores, pretty good
mt. morris- satturia - junior
leroy- alexander - junior

[pcssoccer2]

couple of others

york - galvin, hann only sophomores, pretty good
mt. morris- satturia - junior
leroy- alexander - juniordeff galvin!! he is my best friend and we known each other for a long time and when he comes into perry we play b-ball at the park and he schools everyone...i think hes better at street ball but he is really good at indoor too...hes quick he can shoot

[hornets10]

aha yeah i play aau with him, hes a cool cat

and from perry what bout tht one short kid i forget his #.. he was on jv and he was pretty good, i think he was only a frehsmen he can shoot the ball

[pcssoccer2]

aha yeah i play aau with him, hes a cool cat

and from perry what bout tht one short kid i forget his #.. he was on jv and he was pretty good, i think he was only a frehsmen he can shoot the balldid he mainly play up top and kinda sorta hogged the ball a lil?

[hornets10]

did he mainly play up top and kinda sorta hogged the ball a lil?

well he loves driving.. and personally idc if he does "hog" the ball... as long as we score somehow, i do not care. haha

[pcssoccer2]

well he loves driving.. and personally idc if he does "hog" the ball... as long as we score somehow, i do not care. hahai think you are thinking of brennan campbell

[hornets10]

i think you are thinking of brennan campbell

nah galvin

[pcssoccer2]

nah galvinno the kid from perry

[hornets10]

no the kid from perry

hes like #3 i think idr.. he wasnt bad.. i guarded him the first game n got owned n thts y they almost beat us.. but the second game we put our best defensive player on him n he was shut down for a while but he started to heat up

[pcssoccer2]

hes like #3 i think idr.. he wasnt bad.. i guarded him the first game n got owned n thts y they almost beat us.. but the second game we put our best defensive player on him n he was shut down for a while but he started to heat upoh are you from avon?

[hornets10]

oh are you from avon?

nah CM

[pcssoccer2]

nah CMohhhh do u do track and stuff?

[hornets10]

ohhhh do u do track and stuff?

baseball n basketball

[pcssoccer2]

baseball n basketballoh alright...haha

[GodHelpUs]

all of avon is gonna be decent next year...especially with mcbride returning for his 7th year of high school

hahahahahahahaha scrub

[hornets10]

does anyone know how leroy is looking for next year.
they werent half bad when we played them in the regular season (JV wise)

[Yankees2365]

they should be pretty good they were are freshman year

[soccerstud11]

does anyone know how leroy is looking for next year.
they werent half bad when we played them in the regular season (JV wise)

Not sure, the past few years they have been alright going about .500 both years with very young teams. I don't know what will happen this year though.

[Snowboarder32]

Not sure, the past few years they have been alright going about .500 both years with very young teams. I don't know what will happen this year though.

i'm going with Ethan Belcher as the best player next year

[soccerstud11]

i'm going with Ethan Belcher as the best player next year

Yeah, he is gonna be ballin' next year. My guess is he will average about 50-60 a game! :D

[Snowboarder32]

Yeah, he is gonna be ballin' next year. My guess is he will average about 50-60 a game! :D

finish the season with 1500+ goals :D

[soccerstud11]

finish the season with 1500+ goals :D

Haha, this is a basketball thread. You must think it is soccer?

[Snowboarder32]

Haha, this is a basketball thread. You must think it is soccer?

yeahhhh ahah my bad
i forgot how to read for a bit...

[soccerstud11]

yeahhhh ahah my bad
i forgot how to read for a bit...

Its all good. lol

[hornets10]

Quentin Humphrey isnt that bad, but he just tries to do it all.. he forces to many not needed shots. luckily he gets the roll sometimes

[soccerstud11]

Quentin Humphrey isnt that bad, but he just tries to do it all.. he forces to many not needed shots. luckily he gets the roll sometimes

Mike Humphrey and Quentin Humphrey will be a good tandem next year.

[BSox10]

Mike Nowatzki from wayland-cohocton as one of the best seniors for the 08-09 seasons as a junior he was put to cover all the other teams best players and for a junior he did very well has also has been playing all spring so far and lifting hes gotten alot stronger so he should be fun to watch mature into a good ball player next year!!

[studlystuderson2]

how about any of avons jvs, will they get time on the court at the varsity level.

[CALMUMBASEBALL7]

most likely the campell and upright kid will be good off the bench

[CALMUMBASEBALL7]

dave Fox will drill 13248790432663426213773428719237671342134673421674 327761328738781327132713241327463428132 3's next year and wilson will dominate

[lcaa5]

how about any of avons jvs, will they get time on the court at the varsity level.

Im pretty sure you wont need to be too worried about the avon jv players because they are returning their starting 5 and 3 off the bench i believe..........i dont think they will get a lot of playing time.......Upright will.

[sectionVHYPE]

how about any of avons jvs, will they get time on the court at the varsity level.

yeah their jv players dont even begin to compare

[hornets10]

Mike Nowatzki from wayland-cohocton as one of the best seniors for the 08-09 seasons as a junior he was put to cover all the other teams best players and for a junior he did very well has also has been playing all spring so far and lifting hes gotten alot stronger so he should be fun to watch mature into a good ball player next year!!

well his reletive sherri nowatzki is a coach down in FL for the D2 Flagler University... she coached my cousin b4 she had a career ending injury

so he must have some basketball skills in his genes haha

[baseball09]

Jeffres....Elliott...Dejesus (but he will be a senior)....Czworka. Pavilion will be pretty decent next year they have nasty sophomores and will be a big threat when those sophomores are seniors

[Bravesfan08]

Jeffres....Elliott...Dejesus (but he will be a senior)....Czworka. Pavilion will be pretty decent next year they have nasty sophomores and will be a big threat when those sophomores are seniors
I'll give u Jeffres, I wouldn't call their sophomores "nasty" though, not yet at least.

Also although Avon's JV players are very good (39-0 the last two years) I don't know how much time they will get just because the other guys are kind of slotted in a rotation. I would deffinitely say they can compare to at least some of the returning players. The only problem I see with that team is that there is only one ball and there could be some jelousy(sp?) issues.

[hornets10]

I'll give u Jeffres, I wouldn't call their sophomores "nasty" though, not yet at least.

Also although Avon's JV players are very good (39-0 the last two years) I don't know how much time they will get just because the other guys are kind of slotted in a rotation. I would deffinitely say they can compare to at least some of the returning players. The only problem I see with that team is that there is only one ball and there could be some jelousy(sp?) issues.



...... avon.... thts just unfair

[garnet21w]

I'll give u Jeffres, I wouldn't call their sophomores "nasty" though, not yet at least.

Also although Avon's JV players are very good (39-0 the last two years) I don't know how much time they will get just because the other guys are kind of slotted in a rotation. I would deffinitely say they can compare to at least some of the returning players. The only problem I see with that team is that there is only one ball and there could be some jelousy(sp?) issues.


I don't know, I'll ive pavilion Elliot and Jeffres for next year. Elliot's older brother tore it up at pavilion a couple seasons ago.

[livcofan]

I don't know, I'll ive pavilion Elliot and Jeffres for next year. Elliot's older brother tore it up at pavilion a couple seasons ago.

Not the same player as his brother...at least not yet.

[Braves2410]

avon is going to use mostly the same lineup as last year with only a couple jv's from last year

[khiky69r]

dave Fox will drill 13248790432663426213773428719237671342134673421674 327761328738781327132713241327463428132 3's next year and wilson will dominate

Thats a lot of 3's.

[bball4life]

Thats a lot of 3's.

Yeah it is!

[boobiemiles]

...... avon.... thts just unfair
They really aren't that good. I have seen them play a couple times this year, and Cal-Mum was right with them this year. Yeah they will be the clear team to beat next year, and will be the favorite until somebody knocks them off. But they are by no means unbeatable, and they will lose a few games next year.

[garnet21w]

I deffinatly agree, Avon will be very good, but not unbeatable. A VERY deep sectional run is probably a safe bet

[adAms08]

I agree, too. Avon might go undefeated again until sectional time, but if they play like they did last year, they definitely won't win it. This past year they got beat by Gananda in the semis, but ER and OA (and probably others) would have beaten them easily, too. It was actually pretty shocking to see how ordinary their team and their style of play was, after all the hype.

[Bravesfan08]

I agree, too. Avon might go undefeated again until sectional time, but if they play like they did last year, they definitely won't win it. This past year they got beat by Gananda in the semis, but ER and OA (and probably others) would have beaten them easily, too. It was actually pretty shocking to see how ordinary their team and their style of play was, after all the hype.


The only way i can see Avon losing in sectionals is-
1.) if they have chemistry issues
2.)They see a team that likes to run (like gananda)
3.)someone gets hurt

Also as for last year you have to remember that our starting shooting guard and best overall athlete and defender was out for the game against Gananda. We were deffinitely a lot better than we played that day. And for proof of that just watch the Hornell tape.

[Braves2410]

i agree if we had kesel the gananda game would not have been the way it was. it was a real blow knowing that he wasnt going to be able to play.

[Giles]

i agree if we had kesel the gananda game would not have been the way it was. it was a real blow knowing that he wasnt going to be able to play.

I respectfully disagree. Kesel is a very good player and would've help but the outcome would've been the same for a few reasons.

1.) Avon had not seen Gananda's size all year. McBride couldn't shoot over Welker and the other big kid was no match for Stearns.

2.) Phillips went against smaller guards in the LCAA that he could shoot over or muscle into to get shots. That didn't happen in this game as he had not faced soemone with Dotterer's size and athleticism all year.

3.) Avon was tired because Gananda ran up and down so much. IMO, that's from playing in Wayne County in which teams press and pressure the ball more.

4.) Avon had not seen man defense as good as they saw against Gananda. They're used to playing against the 2-3 zone against most LCAA schools.

[Braves2410]

ok that is not right sorry but we had faced man d all year and phillips had faced big guards especially from Hornell. i agree that teams that run are harder for us, but we werent tired. Kesel would have made a big defensive difference because they wouldnt have made as many 3's as they did because in the previous game against C-M they only made a few not the 7 or 8 they made against us. there is no doubt that Kesel would have made a difference.

[Giles]

ok that is not right sorry but we had faced man d all year and phillips had faced big guards especially from Hornell. i agree that teams that run are harder for us, but we werent tired. Kesel would have made a big defensive difference because they wouldnt have made as many 3's as they did because in the previous game against C-M they only made a few not the 7 or 8 they made against us. there is no doubt that Kesel would have made a difference.

Kesel would've made it harder for Gananda to win, but I still think they would have. Avon scored in the 30's with Kesel, I don't think they could've done enough offensively to win.

Phillips had his hand up asking to come out in the second quarter. I was in the stands, I saw it. Dotterer is a D-I athlete (not basketball player), it's apparent that he gave Phillips all he could handle..... Matt is a good player, had a great year, might be the best shooter I saw the whole year, but Dotterer seemed to give him fits.

I saw Avon play against Letchworth, Cal-Mum and Perry and those teams played a majority of zone defense in those games. IMO, that affected Avon's ability to play against a tough man defense.

[adAms08]

Phillips had his hand up asking to come out in the second quarter. I was in the stands, I saw it.

I can vouch for this; I saw it, too. There were a couple of guys who looked exhausted in the 2nd half. Maybe looks were deceiving - but if they want to win it all this year, they are going to need to focus on conditioning, or they are going to have to figure out a way to make other teams play THEIR game. Especially if they want to make a run for states. But of course, they will need to get out of Section V first. :)

[CAL12]

Avon has a very talented team, but I saw them play a depleted C-G team (Brett Ryan had food poisoning all day, Zach Peters was throwing up, and Bryce Ryan was playing on a tender ankle that he twisted against Marion) and won by only 16. They were the better team, but not by much

[Bravesfan08]

I can vouch for this; I saw it, too. There were a couple of guys who looked exhausted in the 2nd half. Maybe looks were deceiving - but if they want to win it all this year, they are going to need to focus on conditioning, or they are going to have to figure out a way to make other teams play THEIR game. Especially if they want to make a run for states. But of course, they will need to get out of Section V first. :)
I agree with that, even though i think we could have won that game, and were the better team, we did not deserve it that night. That seemed to me that it was the first time all year that the juniors really played like juniors and seemed flustered. I think this was partly due to the fact that we had not been used to playing from behind. Whether or not we would have won with garrett he deffinitely would have made a difference.

As for next years team (i am a senior) they deffinitely will be the deepest team in the LCAA, and should at least make a deep sectional or states run. The only issues i see are they get matched up against a team like gananda who runs the floor a lot. That is one of the only main weaknesses in mcbride and phillips games, they seemed to get worn out at RIT. Hopefully that team will be able to play together becuase i think if they do they will make a strong run into sectionals and states.

[lcaa5]

So back to the question would you consider phillips and mcbride two of the best playuers returning?

[garnet21w]

So back to the question would you consider phillips and mcbride two of the best playuers returning?


Phillips, McBeide, and Kessel are all tops. Clleville is probably the best DIII returner. The kid from leRoy is good too, and, I'll say it again, Gefrees from Pavilion wiill be good