Lcaa

[soccerstud11]

What teams from the LCAA look good for next year? Who is returning the most talent and most seniors?

[Rams15]

Bath will lose leading scorer Justin Brown, ( 1st team All State ) Lucas Wales and two major defenders. Brown and Wales accounted for about 50% of Bath's offense. However, they return AGR 2nd team senior goalie Mike Rossi,( 10 goals given up in 2007 ) 2nd leading scorer senior Jason Carpenter,( 12 goals and 12 assist ) senior defender/mf Sam Robbins ( 3 goals and 3 assist ) and junior Dylan Wales ( 2 goal and 3 assist ), junior midfielders Justin Sherwood ( 6 goals and 3 assists ) and junior John Smith.( 2 goals and 7 assists ) All starters from last year's team that reached the state qualifiers. Add in 6 players from a 13-2 JV team that split with HFL and Hornell for their only two losses of the season. Losing 5 seniors will hurt, but I believe Hornell lost a total of 17 seniors to graduation, but return Murphy, Mauro, and McCallister.( and others ) Livonia was very young last year and played well at the end of the season. They will challenge for BB. That's off the top of my head. I don't know alot about the LCAA for classes smaller than BB.

[soccerstud11]

Bath will lose leading scorer Justin Brown, ( 1st team All State ) Lucas Wales and two major defenders. Brown and Wales accounted for about 50% of Bath's offense. However, they return AGR 2nd team senior goalie Mike Rossi,( 10 goals given up in 2007 ) 2nd leading scorer senior Jason Carpenter,( 12 goals and 12 assist ) senior defender/mf Sam Robbins ( 3 goals and 3 assist ) and junior Dylan Wales ( 2 goal and 3 assist ), junior midfielders Justin Sherwood ( 6 goals and 3 assists ) and junior John Smith.( 2 goals and 7 assists ) All starters from last year's team that reached the state qualifiers. Add in 6 players from a 13-2 JV team that split with HFL and Hornell for their only two losses of the season. Losing 5 seniors will hurt, but I believe Hornell lost a total of 17 seniors to graduation, but return Murphy, Mauro, and McCallister.( and others ) Livonia was very young last year and played well at the end of the season. They will challenge for BB. That's off the top of my head. I don't know alot about the LCAA for classes smaller than BB.Good info. I remember playing against Bath last year. Their goalie was pretty good and was ranked among the top goalies in the state for all of class B. I look for him to be best in the state at any level this year.

[soccerstud11]

Does anyone know anything about any of the Division 2 teams such as Cal-Mum, Pavillion, Avon, etc.

[g24man44]

Does anyone know anything about any of the Division 2 teams such as Cal-Mum, Pavillion, Avon, etc.

I do know cal-mum is losing around 12 seniors, 9 of them who were starters including first year goalie jordan vokes, leading scorer Charlie, and many others. However they are bringing in a ton of talent, the goalie spot remains open, but it was the same situation as it was last year, cal-mum didnt have a goalie until pre-season and did very well for his first time playing soccer ever. CM will have some good leaders from Chris Terbourg and Cory Sisson, their junior class has unbelievable talent and should make CM a tough competitor, this team should be one of the favorites for winning the league title, maybe even bring in a sectional title, they have really improved every year that they have played together and should be really exciting to watch.

[soccerstud11]

I do know cal-mum is losing around 12 seniors, 9 of them who were starters including first year goalie jordan vokes, leading scorer Charlie, and many others. However they are bringing in a ton of talent, the goalie spot remains open, but it was the same situation as it was last year, cal-mum didnt have a goalie until pre-season and did very well for his first time playing soccer ever. CM will have some good leaders from Chris Terbourg and Cory Sisson, their junior class has unbelievable talent and should make CM a tough competitor, this team should be one of the favorites for winning the league title, maybe even bring in a sectional title, they have really improved every year that they have played together and should be really exciting to watch.

They didn't win the League Title this past year. How do you see them winning it this coming year after losing most of their good players? Is their Junior class really that talented?

[crashtest]

I see from their website that HFL is graduating 7 starters fom last year. I think most of their middies are returning. It will be a younger, but still a good team none the less.

[soccerstud11]

I see from their website that HFL is graduating 7 starters fom last year. I think most of their middies are returning. It will be a younger, but still a good team none the less.

How was their record last year?

[crashtest]

HFL was 16-3-1. Two of their losses were to Webster Thomas and Aquinas. And the score was 1-0 for both games. They will be back.....

[soccerstud11]

HFL was 16-3-1. Two of their losses were to Webster Thomas and Aquinas. And the score was 1-0 for both games. They will be back.....

Sounds like a great season! Good luck to HFL this coming year.

By the way, who was their third lose to?

[crashtest]

It was their first game at a tourn in Syracuse. I think they lost 2-0 to North Cicero. They also beat Victor, Pittsford Mendon and Webster Schroeder last year.

[cmsoccer16]

actually cal-mum did win their league Livingston Division II

[soccerstud11]

actually cal-mum did win their league Livingston Division II

Not according to the league website!

http://www.sectionvsoccer.org/League.asp

Go there. They tied with 17 points with LeRoy. And I believe LeRoy would have the tie breaker based on head to head competition.

[unc2008]

im gonna go out on a limb and say that avon is not going to be very good next year...

[soccerstud11]

im gonna go out on a limb and say that avon is not going to be very good next year...

that is out on a limb? when was the last time they were good? i cant remember, ever!

[teamfreaknasty]

that is out on a limb? when was the last time they were good? i cant remember, ever!

Avon was good when i was in HS, 98-01. They were 2nd or third in the division every year. I think my teams split with them each year my fresh and soph year. We won both games my jr and sr though. They had a center midfielder named Jon Farrell who was a force as well as an exchange student named Sergei who was a big time scorer.

[g24man44]

They didn't win the League Title this past year. How do you see them winning it this coming year after losing most of their good players? Is their Junior class really that talented?

Yea you must be right, I don't remember celebrating our LCAA title this year. And yeah their junior class is that talented.

[baidog]

Not according to the league website!

http://www.sectionvsoccer.org/League.asp

Go there. They tied with 17 points with LeRoy. And I believe LeRoy would have the tie breaker based on head to head competition.

No, check the D2 records, it should reflect 10 games, 2 against each divisional opponent. Lr must have counted some league games that were not divisional to get that record.

Cm 8-1-1
Lr 5-2-3

[soccerstud11]

No, check the D2 records, it should reflect 10 games, 2 against each divisional opponent. Lr must have counted some league games that were not divisional to get that record.

Cm 8-1-1
Lr 5-2-3

5+2+ 3 = 10. Am I right or do I need to go back to first grade math?

[cmsoccer16]

ok so if we went 8-1-1 in the league and lr went 5-3-2 who do u think won the division?

[baidog]

5+2+ 3 = 10. Am I right or do I need to go back to first grade math?

Only if you still think that adds up to LeRoy winning the Division.

[soccerstud11]

Only if you still think that adds up to LeRoy winning the Division.

LeRoy tied for the division champion. Look at the scoreboard!

[baidog]

LeRoy tied for the division champion. Look at the scoreboard!

I assumed because you referenced the site that you knew LR had included 12 games to get the 17 points.

As shown on section 5 website

Caledonia-Mumford 8 - 1 - 1 17
LeRoy 7 - 2 - 3 17

So the point is that somehow LR played 12 division games not 10.
At 5-2-3 (actual division record) LR's point total should be 13 points not 17 and therefore a second place finish in LCAA divsion 2. For some reason they included 2 non-division wins to get the 17 points you refer to as a tie for the title.

[soccerstud11]

I assumed because you referenced the site that you knew LR had included 12 games to get the 17 points.

As shown on section 5 website

Caledonia-Mumford 8 - 1 - 1 17
LeRoy 7 - 2 - 3 17

So the point is that somehow LR played 12 division games not 10.
At 5-2-3 (actual division record) LR's point total should be 13 points not 17 and therefore a second place finish in LCAA divsion 2. For some reason they included 2 non-division wins to get the 17 points you refer to as a tie for the title.

We didn't include anything! We tied for the Division. Maybe Cal-Mum should have scheduled more Division games. Oh and how about we beat you and ended your perfect season!

[cmsoccer16]

i am pretty sure that leroy didn't end our perfect season b/c we tied to hornell and pavillion before we had to play u.

[g24man44]

First of all on that section v website the leroy coach posted the wrong information he added games outside of the D-2 league and only counted the wins for them, so thats how they have more games than us. And did leroy get a trophy for coming in first for the league title? I think not. Look at all the other teams in our league like letchworth, pavilion, perry, and avon, they only have 10 league games in so u my friend have no clue wat u are talking about, along with your coach also.

[g24man44]

We didn't include anything! We tied for the Division. Maybe Cal-Mum should have scheduled more Division games. Oh and how about we beat you and ended your perfect season!

I dont care end our perfect season, we still won the league title, seriously you have no idea wat u r talking about. How do you expect us to schedule more league games when you can play each team in ur division only twice, you are messed up man.

[soccerstud11]

I dont care end our perfect season, we still won the league title, seriously you have no idea wat u r talking about. How do you expect us to schedule more league games when you can play each team in ur division only twice, you are messed up man.

we played teams in our division more than twice. and tieing still means your have a perfect record. it isnt untill you lost when your winning percentage drops below 1.000. we were the first team to beat you, thus ending your perfect season. plus, we started a trend as you lost to keshequa the next game and red creek shortly after.

[g24man44]

we played teams in our division more than twice. and tieing still means your have a perfect record. it isnt untill you lost when your winning percentage drops below 1.000. we were the first team to beat you, thus ending your perfect season. plus, we started a trend as you lost to keshequa the next game and red creek shortly after.

Look at every team in D-2 they played only 10 division games. You can't count the Keshequa, york, or geneseo games. If we did that then we wouldn't be having this conversation right now because then we would have more wins then you. Also if you think losing to Red Creek was the start of a losing streak, how about u try playing them and see how you do, ok.

[soccerstud11]

Look at every team in D-2 they played only 10 division games. You can't count the Keshequa, york, or geneseo games. If we did that then we wouldn't be having this conversation right now because then we would have more wins then you. Also if you think losing to Red Creek was the start of a losing streak, how about u try playing them and see how you do, ok.

i didnt say losing to red creek was the start of a loosing streak. i said loosing to leroy was because you lost to keshequa and red creek right after. 3 games in a row sounds like a loosing streak to me.

[g24man44]

i didnt say losing to red creek was the start of a loosing streak. i said loosing to leroy was because you lost to keshequa and red creek right after. 3 games in a row sounds like a loosing streak to me.

Ahh, we didn't lose 3 games in a row there buddy, so nice try

[soccerstud11]

Ahh, we didn't lose 3 games in a row there buddy, so nice try

ok man well ... face it! you guys weren't as good as you thought you were!

[cmsoccer16]

how can u say we werent good. We won the leauge title and we ended up winning like 14 games. We advanced the furtherst that we ever have for cal-mum soccer and we had players that were players of the week and a player of the year...

[LEROY]

I assumed because you referenced the site that you knew LR had included 12 games to get the 17 points.

As shown on section 5 website

Caledonia-Mumford 8 - 1 - 1 17
LeRoy 7 - 2 - 3 17

So the point is that somehow LR played 12 division games not 10.
At 5-2-3 (actual division record) LR's point total should be 13 points not 17 and therefore a second place finish in LCAA divsion 2. For some reason they included 2 non-division wins to get the 17 points you refer to as a tie for the title.

ok i dont even play soccer and i can tell that Letchworth also had 12 divisional games and avon had 13 so obviously leroy isnt the only one

[cmsoccer16]

rite they can have all of those divisional games but u can only count the two against our division team...avon, leroy, cal-mum, letchworh, perry, and pavillion. These coaches have added games in to their division record that are not in their division. that is why they didn't win the division even though we were tied b/c the standings r wrong.

[pcssoccer2]

where is soccerstud11 from?

[boobiemiles]

where is soccerstud11 from?
leleleleleleleleLEROYYYYYYYYY

[pcssoccer2]

haha alright...

[pcssoccer2]

leroy soccer players i give a lot of credit to...since i have been playing soccer i have never beat leroy!! only tie last year in a mud fest when it was pouring...varsity of course

[soccerstud11]

rite they can have all of those divisional games but u can only count the two against our division team...avon, leroy, cal-mum, letchworh, perry, and pavillion. These coaches have added games in to their division record that are not in their division. that is why they didn't win the division even though we were tied b/c the standings r wrong.

yah, we did count those all as division games. we played some teams more than twice. obviously your coach didnt get the memo?

[soccerstud11]

leroy soccer players i give a lot of credit to...since i have been playing soccer i have never beat leroy!! only tie last year in a mud fest when it was pouring...varsity of course

thanks. i give you guys credit to. i remember my first year of jv (8th grade), we got romped like 12-0 lol. also, i like the way that lucas kid plays. he is great to play against and fun to watch!

[pcssoccer2]

thanks. i give you guys credit to. i remember my first year of jv (8th grade), we got romped like 12-0 lol. also, i like the way that lucas kid plays. he is great to play against and fun to watch!very very true!! hes amazing and if we can give him some help this year i think he will score 25-30 goals

[soccerstud11]

very very true!! hes amazing and if we can give him some help this year i think he will score 25-30 goals

wait, i thought he was a senior this year?

[pcssoccer2]

wait, i thought he was a senior this year? nope he is a junior this year!! thank god!! :D

[soccerstud11]

nope he is a junior this year!! thank god!! :D

god, i thought i was done having to play against him

[pcssoccer2]

no sir...:D

[Eagle171]

Bath will lose leading scorer Justin Brown, ( 1st team All State ) Lucas Wales and two major defenders. Brown and Wales accounted for about 50% of Bath's offense. However, they return AGR 2nd team senior goalie Mike Rossi,( 10 goals given up in 2007 ) 2nd leading scorer senior Jason Carpenter,( 12 goals and 12 assist ) senior defender/mf Sam Robbins ( 3 goals and 3 assist ) and junior Dylan Wales ( 2 goal and 3 assist ), junior midfielders Justin Sherwood ( 6 goals and 3 assists ) and junior John Smith.( 2 goals and 7 assists ) All starters from last year's team that reached the state qualifiers. Add in 6 players from a 13-2 JV team that split with HFL and Hornell for their only two losses of the season. Losing 5 seniors will hurt, but I believe Hornell lost a total of 17 seniors to graduation, but return Murphy, Mauro, and McCallister.( and others ) Livonia was very young last year and played well at the end of the season. They will challenge for BB. That's off the top of my head. I don't know alot about the LCAA for classes smaller than BB.
IDK about other schools but from what i heard about bath is that a lot of their players play year round in a league in elmira and thats why some of the younger guys like dillon wales jon smith and jason carpenter are so talented and i remeber from playing them last season that ppl like wales smith and carpenter and a lot of other kids on the team have a lot of speed and talent but are really cocky with bad attitudes and play act like theyr better than they really are.....maybe someone else knos what im talkin bout?

[soccerstud11]

IDK about other schools but from what i heard about bath is that a lot of their players play year round in a league in elmira and thats why some of the younger guys like dillon wales jon smith and jason carpenter are so talented and i remeber from playing them last season that ppl like wales smith and carpenter and a lot of other kids on the team have a lot of speed and talent but are really cocky with bad attitudes and play act like theyr better than they really are.....maybe someone else knos what im talkin bout?

there is only one solution to this sort of problem. have a team beat the living **** out of them. then they will think twice about acting like they are the best team on the planet.

[boobiemiles]

there is only one solution to this sort of problem. have a team beat the living **** out of them. then they will think twice about acting like they are the best team on the planet.
by that do you mean like to outscore them. or to throw them around and actually like fight them

[soccerstud11]

by that do you mean like to outscore them. or to throw them around and actually like fight them

out score them like 10-0. i remember playing hfl in jv when i was in 8th grade (our team sucked that year) and we got beat 16-0. this was, by no means, a fun experience. if a team beats bath by a lot then bath will think again about being cocky, and yes they are cocky. i have experienced it when we played them the last 2 years.

[boobiemiles]

i know what it's like to lose 12-0 haha

[soccerstud11]

i know what it's like to lose 12-0 haha

its horrible. it makes you just want to quit!

[Rams15]

Since you used my quotes ( about a question asked about next year in the LCAA ) I will respond to your unfounded and superfluous comments about our Bath soccer team. I would love to know what team you are from, but you will probably hide behind your screen name like most other posters who critcize players or adults with little supporting evidence.

Soccerstud11, who I know is from Leory, also has some derogatory things to say about our soccer team. I know you couldn't be referring to us when you spoke of getting beat by a large margin of goals. ( when you mentioned the only way we ( Bath ) will learn is to get the **** beat out of us ) We beat you 4-0 this past season in a well played game by both sides. At least that is what I thought !

Then you ( Eagle 171 ) verbally attack kids like Dylan Wales and Jason Carpenter who, if you knew them very well, you would know that these are two fine young kids. Kids who work very hard on and off the soccer field. For you to include their names in your comments was foolish and ignorant !!! Everyone is entilted to their opinions and that is mine !!

One thing I have come to understand in the last 35 years of playing and coaching is that jealousy is an ugly thing. It rears its head in many forms by both young people and adults. Too often people have to put other people down to make themselves look worthy. I have no blind loyalties for any player I have coached or to athletes that play on the Bath teams. If you choose to " call out " some players and have justification to do so, then so be it. However, when you attack these two great kids you have made a very poor error in judgement. There is a huge difference between being cocky and playing with confidence. Maybe that is why we have won 2 out of the last 4 sectional titles, 10 overall sectional titles and one state championship.

Choose the right ammunition next time and do your homework before garbage comes spewing out of your mouth.

[boobiemiles]

Since you used my quotes ( about a question asked about next year in the LCAA ) I will respond to your unfounded and superfluous comments about our Bath soccer team. I would love to know what team you are from, but you will probably hide behind your screen name like most other posters who critcize players or adults with little supporting evidence.

Soccerstud11, who I know is from Leory, also has some derogatory things to say about our soccer team. I know you couldn't be referring to us when you spoke of getting beat by a large margin of goals. ( when you mentioned the only way we ( Bath ) will learn is to get the **** beat out of us ) We beat you 4-0 this past season in a well played game by both sides. At least that is what I thought !

Then you ( Eagle 171 ) verbally attack kids like Dylan Wales and Jason Carpenter who, if you knew them very well, you would know that these are two fine young kids. Kids who work very hard on and off the soccer field. For you to include their names in your comments was foolish and ignorant !!! Everyone is entilted to their opinions and that is mine !!

One thing I have come to understand in the last 35 years of playing and coaching is that jealousy is an ugly thing. It rears its head in many forms by both young people and adults. Too often people have to put other people down to make themselves look worthy. I have no blind loyalties for any player I have coached or to athletes that play on the Bath teams. If you choose to " call out " some players and have justification to do so, then so be it. However, when you attack these two great kids you have made a very poor error in judgement. There is a huge difference between being cocky and playing with confidence. Maybe that is why we have won 2 out of the last 4 sectional titles, 10 overall sectional titles and one state championship.

Choose the right ammunition next time and do your homework before garbage comes spewing out of your mouth.
in soccerstud11's defense.........

he is not hiding behind his screen name, you know what school he is from, and many people on the site know who he is...

he said... the only way that the bath kids would stop being so cocky/confident(use whatever word you want) is if they got the crap beat out of them. think about that. it is a pretty true statement in and of itself.

Finally, the fact that you beat them last year has nothing to do with his statement that the only way your kids would be so cocky/confident(use whatever word you want) is if somebody killed them(on the field of play) he was not cocky/confident(use whatever word you want), only stating that the bath kids would be a little less cocky/confident(use whatever word you want) if somebody beat them by a lot.

he never called anybody out, and his usage of the word cocky/confident(use whatever word you want) was in response to what had been said before him

[Rams15]

My problem is with a person calling out two players, by name, and making what I believe to be very unfair assessments. To me it is character assassination. My reference to hiding behind a screen name was made directly to the poster who made specific reference to these boys. Defend who you will, that is admirable. If a poster wants to expand on someone's information or thread ( that makes a judgement on a player ) however I think anyone should make damn well sure they know what they are talking about before commenting or adding on. If it is a comment about the Bath soccer team, that is one thing. Have at it. We read the banter all of the time in reference to all sports and all teams. However, when the comments specifically reference a player or players ( and on top of that ) are completely inaccurate, be prepared to hear the other side of the coin.

Like I said to call out two good kids is wrong. Jason and Dylan are far from cocky. There is no rationale in trying to defend that.

[boobiemiles]

My problem is with a person calling out two players, by name, and making what I believe to be very unfair assessments. To me it is character assassination. My reference to hiding behind a screen name was made directly to the poster who made specific reference to these boys. Defend who you will, that is admirable. If a poster wants to expand on someone's information or thread ( that makes a judgement on a player ) however I think anyone should make damn well sure they know what they are talking about before commenting or adding on. If it is a comment about the Bath soccer team, that is one thing. Have at it. We read the banter all of the time in reference to all sports and all teams. However, when the comments specifically reference a player or players ( and on top of that ) are completely inaccurate, be prepared to hear the other side of the coin.

Like I said to call out two good kids is wrong. Jason and Dylan are far from cocky. There is no rationale in trying to defend that.



well i read the post you're referring to, and i'll try to take it from another point of view......


the poster, eagle 171, said that jason and dylan were very fast and talented. he then moved on to another thought stating that the team was cocky. he said they had a lot of talent but are cocky. and in between the two thoughts, he used jason and dylan as examples of the talent... so what he was trying to say would be: "they have a lot of talent because they play year round, I know Dillon, jon, and Jason are really talented from last year when we played them, and their team has a lot of speed and talent, but they are really cocky…"

just trying to rationalize... maybe he was really saying what you thought.

IDK about other schools but from what i heard about bath is that a lot of their players play year round in a league in elmira and thats why some of the younger guys like dillon wales jon smith and jason carpenter are so talented and i remeber from playing them last season that ppl like wales smith and carpenter and a lot of other kids on the team have a lot of speed and talent but are really cocky with bad attitudes and play act like theyr better than they really are.....maybe someone else knos what im talkin bout?

[BathRamsFan]

out score them like 10-0. i remember playing hfl in jv when i was in 8th grade (our team sucked that year) and we got beat 16-0. this was, by no means, a fun experience. if a team beats bath by a lot then bath will think again about being cocky, and yes they are cocky. i have experienced it when we played them the last 2 years.

In 25 years or so of following Bath sports, can't remember the last time Bath took a whipping on the soccer field. I don't know the kids personally, so I cannot defend thier attitudes, but this is the first I have ever heard derogatory towards them. Rams soccer has always been a first class program and as long as Tom Hagadorn disciples continue to run the program I imagine it always will be. Come on up to the field and take a look at all the championship titles on the board.... pretty awe inspiring.

[Attica Coach]

I have coached against the Bath teams of 2002 and 2006. We met in the sectional quarterfinals each time. Both times I was impressed with not only their skill but also their sportsmanship. I could tell that both of these teams were very well coached in all aspects of the game on and off the field.

Just in case anyone cares they beat us both times.
Scores 2-1 and 3-2.

[Eagle171]

i never referred to the coaches of the team b/c they cannot control what the players say off the field, in the off season, or even on the field where only the players can hear it. i prolly shouldnt have refered to the whole team as being cocky b/c the few times i have talked to a bath player was on the field and once in the offseason w/ Jon Smith. we had an altercation during a game when he repeatedly dove over and over again:(. i mean if the bath players have to cheat to win then let them be cocky about those wins.:(

P.S. just clean up the game and play w/ some sportsmanship and courtesy please

]~Blitzforlife~[/FONT]

[jmr4616]

Unfortunately for Bath fans I have experience with the exact same issues as the person above me. On multiple occasions i have believed that bath's players have dove to get calls. What is more frustrating to myself and many of my teammates though is that everytime I have ever played there officiating has been poor and completely one sided. I know where this person is coming from from experience as a fan you may not see it but players can tell when things are not quite right.

[Eagle171]

Unfortunately for Bath fans I have experience with the exact same issues as the person above me. On multiple occasions i have believed that bath's players have dove to get calls. What is more frustrating to myself and many of my teammates though is that everytime I have ever played there officiating has been poor and completely one sided. I know where this person is coming from from experience as a fan you may not see it but players can tell when things are not quite right.

at least someone agrees with me. thank you Jmr4616:)

[jmr4616]

not a problem playing there drives me nuts I really hate it

[Rams15]

Please don't tell me you are from HFL !? ( which is indicated by your many posts recently ) I personally observed an HFL player spit in is hand before going through the line after the HFL/Bath soccer game last season. He was later canned by his coach and the atheltic council for his actions. The coach, to his credit, did an admirable thing and addressed the issue.( even though it was one of their best players ) Personally, I think they played better ( as a team ) after this situation occured. The coach personally contacted Bath & apologized for his team's behavior. Is that the way this team responds to ( what is viewed by the players... as stated by you ) as poor officiating ? If so, don't hold that mirror to close to your face. You might get 7 year's bad luck !

[soccerstud11]

Since you used my quotes ( about a question asked about next year in the LCAA ) I will respond to your unfounded and superfluous comments about our Bath soccer team. I would love to know what team you are from, but you will probably hide behind your screen name like most other posters who critcize players or adults with little supporting evidence.

Soccerstud11, who I know is from Leory, also has some derogatory things to say about our soccer team. I know you couldn't be referring to us when you spoke of getting beat by a large margin of goals. ( when you mentioned the only way we ( Bath ) will learn is to get the **** beat out of us ) We beat you 4-0 this past season in a well played game by both sides. At least that is what I thought !

Then you ( Eagle 171 ) verbally attack kids like Dylan Wales and Jason Carpenter who, if you knew them very well, you would know that these are two fine young kids. Kids who work very hard on and off the soccer field. For you to include their names in your comments was foolish and ignorant !!! Everyone is entilted to their opinions and that is mine !!

One thing I have come to understand in the last 35 years of playing and coaching is that jealousy is an ugly thing. It rears its head in many forms by both young people and adults. Too often people have to put other people down to make themselves look worthy. I have no blind loyalties for any player I have coached or to athletes that play on the Bath teams. If you choose to " call out " some players and have justification to do so, then so be it. However, when you attack these two great kids you have made a very poor error in judgement. There is a huge difference between being cocky and playing with confidence. Maybe that is why we have won 2 out of the last 4 sectional titles, 10 overall sectional titles and one state championship.

Choose the right ammunition next time and do your homework before garbage comes spewing out of your mouth.

I was referring to the way the Bath kids acted when they were playing us.
4-0 is not a bad score at all and it was a well played game by both sides (even though we got only about 5 shots the whole game :) ) but when Bath kids start spitting at other kids that is uncalled for. I know in soccer there is always jibbering and jabbering back and forth but to take it as far as spitting at the person complaining is ridiculous!

[soccerstud11]

Also, when one of our players went down in the corner a Bath kid kicked him in the head multiple times. I don't know if the Bath kid was going for the ball or not but from the way our coach described it it sounded intentional. Plus why would you be hacking at a ball in the corner when the other team is down and the ground and can't do a thing? Nonetheless, after being kicked in the face/back of the head somewhere between 3 and 5 times the kid blacked out.

[Rams15]

Well...We could go round and round with he said, she said. If that is what you saw, heard, encountered, whatever... then that would be a reason to be upset. However, do you know the two boys directly mentioned by name ?? ( not by you I am aware, but that was my major gripe ) Were they the guilty parties in your game ?? My only beef, as I said, was with specific players names being tied to unsportsmanlike play when they are two of the most unlikely players to be displaying poor conduct. Now, mention a couple other player's names and you would not heard a peep out of me.

End of story for me....

Good luck with your track and soccer season this spring and next !!

[jmr4616]

I am from HFL and one player with a terrible temper and poor sportsmanship does not represent the entire HFL team. Everyone on the team lectured that kid for his behavior. As you said he was excused from the team. Also it was not because of poor officiating it was a personal issue with them. It was wrong and I will admit it every time. The issue I am talking about is poor behavior on the field. Many of the players would go down with little contact one in particular knows exactly who he is. The issue lies in the diving and also with officiating in each game i was ever a part of calls were at least 2 to 1

[Eagle171]

Since you used my quotes ( about a question asked about next year in the LCAA ) I will respond to your unfounded and superfluous comments about our Bath soccer team. I would love to know what team you are from, but you will probably hide behind your screen name like most other posters who critcize players or adults with little supporting evidence.

Soccerstud11, who I know is from Leory, also has some derogatory things to say about our soccer team. I know you couldn't be referring to us when you spoke of getting beat by a large margin of goals. ( when you mentioned the only way we ( Bath ) will learn is to get the **** beat out of us ) We beat you 4-0 this past season in a well played game by both sides. At least that is what I thought !

Then you ( Eagle 171 ) verbally attack kids like Dylan Wales and Jason Carpenter who, if you knew them very well, you would know that these are two fine young kids. Kids who work very hard on and off the soccer field. For you to include their names in your comments was foolish and ignorant !!! Everyone is entilted to their opinions and that is mine !!

One thing I have come to understand in the last 35 years of playing and coaching is that jealousy is an ugly thing. It rears its head in many forms by both young people and adults. Too often people have to put other people down to make themselves look worthy. I have no blind loyalties for any player I have coached or to athletes that play on the Bath teams. If you choose to " call out " some players and have justification to do so, then so be it. However, when you attack these two great kids you have made a very poor error in judgement. There is a huge difference between being cocky and playing with confidence. Maybe that is why we have won 2 out of the last 4 sectional titles, 10 overall sectional titles and one state championship.

Choose the right ammunition next time and do your homework before garbage comes spewing out of your mouth.

well maybe not those players idk there were to Wales on the team i meant luke wales and jon smith

[haverlingsoccer10]

I think some of these kids posting on here should get to know someone before they call them out as a player. I've been playing soccer with the kids mentioned in one of the posts (Luke or Dylan Wales, not sure which he was referring to, John Smith, and Jason Carpenter) my whole life and I have never seen cockyiness or bad attitudes out of any of them. We took losses to Corning, Hornell, HFL, and even Dansville gracifully. I didn't see any Bath players spitting in their hands after these losses and walking through the line. Being, I believe, ranked 5th in the state at the time of the loss to Dansville it was mentally and emotionally draining to us all as players but we took the loss in stride and learned from the experience without any sportsmanship mishaps. I'm not in any way saying the Bath players are perfect, but sportsmanship was never an issue with us. And as for the comments on the officiating in Bath, I agree with that person on the quality of the officiating but, the players nor the coaches can control who the officials are or how the game is officiated.

[g24man44]

yah, we did count those all as division games. we played some teams more than twice. obviously your coach didnt get the memo?

hmmmmmm, looking at ur schedule it doesnt look like u played those teams twice, nice try though

[soccerstud11]

hmmmmmm, looking at ur schedule it doesnt look like u played those teams twice, nice try though

Alright man, well I'm gonna go with what LCAA says considering they are the ones who run the sports in our county and believe them when they put on their website that LeRoy tied Cal-Mum for the Division 2 title. End of story. Stop complaining about it. It only makes you look even more immature than you already are.

[teamfreaknasty]

Alright man, well I'm gonna go with what LCAA says considering they are the ones who run the sports in our county and believe them when they put on their website that LeRoy tied Cal-Mum for the Division 2 title. End of story. Stop complaining about it. It only makes you look even more immature than you already are.

I went to leroy and i dont mean to go against leroy but LeRoy finished in 2nd place in the standings. You dont go with LCAA because the standings are based on the input of the games listed on the website. There is no way leroy could of played 12 league games. You play each team in your division twice, thus 10 games total. LeRoys record was 5-2-3 for 13 total pts. Wally had misentered games vs Mt Morris and Warsaw as league games (they are in livingston county but not in division 2). I know how all of these things work since i played in them and kept track but i also know for a fact leroy did not win league this year and havent since my bro played.

[soccerstud11]

I went to leroy and i dont mean to go against leroy but LeRoy finished in 2nd place in the standings. You dont go with LCAA because the standings are based on the input of the games listed on the website. There is no way leroy could of played 12 league games. You play each team in your division twice, thus 10 games total. LeRoys record was 5-2-3 for 13 total pts. Wally had misentered games vs Mt Morris and Warsaw as league games (they are in livingston county but not in division 2). I know how all of these things work since i played in them and kept track but i also know for a fact leroy did not win league this year and havent since my bro played.

haha leave it to wally! :)

[g24man44]

I went to leroy and i dont mean to go against leroy but LeRoy finished in 2nd place in the standings. You dont go with LCAA because the standings are based on the input of the games listed on the website. There is no way leroy could of played 12 league games. You play each team in your division twice, thus 10 games total. LeRoys record was 5-2-3 for 13 total pts. Wally had misentered games vs Mt Morris and Warsaw as league games (they are in livingston county but not in division 2). I know how all of these things work since i played in them and kept track but i also know for a fact leroy did not win league this year and havent since my bro played.

Thank you

[Didier117]

not a problem playing there drives me nuts I really hate it

yeh not a lot of people can handle playing at The Rock



soccerstud11 "Also, when one of our players went down in the corner a Bath kid kicked him in the head multiple times. I don't know if the Bath kid was going for the ball or not but from the way our coach described it it sounded intentional. Plus why would you be hacking at a ball in the corner when the other team is down and the ground and can't do a thing? Nonetheless, after being kicked in the face/back of the head somewhere between 3 and 5 times the kid blacked out."

And if ur gonna make up stories make up something that is believable. Because anyone that has watch us play would know that something to that extent wouldn't happen.

i never referred to the coaches of the team b/c they cannot control what the players say off the field, in the off season, or even on the field where only the players can hear it. i prolly shouldnt have refered to the whole team as being cocky b/c the few times i have talked to a bath player was on the field and once in the offseason w/ Jon Smith. we had an altercation during a game when he repeatedly dove over and over again:(. i mean if the bath players have to cheat to win then let them be cocky about those wins.:(

P.S. just clean up the game and play w/ some sportsmanship and courtesy please

]~Blitzforlife~[/FONT]

if your gonna call someone out on something like that the least you could do is spell their name right.

out score them like 10-0. i remember playing hfl in jv when i was in 8th grade (our team sucked that year) and we got beat 16-0. this was, by no means, a fun experience. if a team beats bath by a lot then bath will think again about being cocky, and yes they are cocky. i have experienced it when we played them the last 2 years.

And I can't remember the last time Bath has ever lost like that.........ever so you can get that out of your head completely cause that isn't going to happen.


Its In The Blood

[soccerstud11]

yeh not a lot of people can handle playing at The Rock



soccerstud11 "Also, when one of our players went down in the corner a Bath kid kicked him in the head multiple times. I don't know if the Bath kid was going for the ball or not but from the way our coach described it it sounded intentional. Plus why would you be hacking at a ball in the corner when the other team is down and the ground and can't do a thing? Nonetheless, after being kicked in the face/back of the head somewhere between 3 and 5 times the kid blacked out."

And if ur gonna make up stories make up something that is believable. Because anyone that has watch us play would know that something to that extent wouldn't happen.



if your gonna call someone out on something like that the least you could do is spell their name right.



And I can't remember the last time Bath has ever lost like that.........ever so you can get that out of your head completely cause that isn't going to happen.


Its In The Blood

I didnt make that story up so why don't you get your facts right buddy!

[Didier117]

I didnt make that story up so why don't you get your facts right buddy!

why dont u get ur facts right .cuz ive been involved with this program for the past five years or so and havent seen or been apart of any of ur false statements. cuz u prolly heard it from a friend or a coach who would rather exaggerate the truth so u have a reason for why ur team lost. Cuz ne one can make up a bull-crap story like that bout ne team. So instead of trying to drag bath through the mud, suck it up, train harder, and try again next year.


Its In The Blood

[bcherry8]

yeh not a lot of people can handle playing at The Rock



soccerstud11 "Also, when one of our players went down in the corner a Bath kid kicked him in the head multiple times. I don't know if the Bath kid was going for the ball or not but from the way our coach described it it sounded intentional. Plus why would you be hacking at a ball in the corner when the other team is down and the ground and can't do a thing? Nonetheless, after being kicked in the face/back of the head somewhere between 3 and 5 times the kid blacked out."

And if ur gonna make up stories make up something that is believable. Because anyone that has watch us play would know that something to that extent wouldn't happen.



if your gonna call someone out on something like that the least you could do is spell their name right.



And I can't remember the last time Bath has ever lost like that.........ever so you can get that out of your head completely cause that isn't going to happen.


Its In The Blood
Anything can happen

[bcherry8]

why dont u get ur facts right .cuz ive been involved with this program for the past five years or so and havent seen or been apart of any of ur false statements. cuz u prolly heard it from a friend or a coach who would rather exaggerate the truth so u have a reason for why ur team lost. Cuz ne one can make up a bull-crap story like that bout ne team. So instead of trying to drag bath through the mud, suck it up, train harder, and try again next year.


Its In The Blood
Well it seems believable

[Didier117]

Well it seems believable

well have u personally ever played Bath?

[g24man44]

I didnt make that story up so why don't you get your facts right buddy!

dude it's hard to believe anything you say on this site sense the first statement you made on this thread was false

[pcssoccer2]

when are the sectional classification crap going to be up? in the summer right?

[boobiemiles]

when are the sectional classification crap going to be up? in the summer right?
should be up already

[pcssoccer2]

should be up alreadywhere though?

[boobiemiles]

where though?
i don't know. but i know the football ones came out a long time ago, so i figure that the soccer ones should be out somewhere

[pcssoccer2]

i don't know. but i know the football ones came out a long time ago, so i figure that the soccer ones should be out somewherealright thanks man

[boobiemiles]

i'm working on it right now...

[pcssoccer2]

i'm working on it right now...alright ha

[boobiemiles]

i'm working on it right now...
alright... well it looks as if there will be 23 class c schools schools in section 5...

class cc would contain:
LETCHWORTH
WILLIAMSON
BYRON-BERGEN
HONEOYE
ADDISON
CALEDONIA-MUMFORD
CANISTEO-GREENWOOD
MARION
CAMPBELL-SAVONA
AVON
GANANDA

although B-B is usually a B school, and with elba's possible addition that would definately change...

and class C will be:
PAVILION
RED CREEK
KENDALL
SOUTH SENECA
WARSAW
PERRY
NAPLES
GENESEO
DUNDEE
CUBA-RUSHFORD
HARLEY ALLENDALE COLUMBIA

east rochester could be either class, and if b-b moves up, with elba's addition, than ER would be CC

[boobiemiles]

i could also be way off... i just used the numbers the state gave out, with the projected numbers for section 5 next year

[boobiemiles]

http://www.nysphsaa.org/classification/cutoff.asp

http://www.nysphsaa.org/production/pubPartClassFinalRpt.aspx

[pcssoccer2]

http://www.nysphsaa.org/classification/cutoff.asp

http://www.nysphsaa.org/production/pubPartClassFinalRpt.aspx

sweet ha thanks

[g24man44]

alright... well it looks as if there will be 23 class c schools schools in section 5...

class cc would contain:
LETCHWORTH
WILLIAMSON
BYRON-BERGEN
HONEOYE
ADDISON
CALEDONIA-MUMFORD
CANISTEO-GREENWOOD
MARION
CAMPBELL-SAVONA
AVON
GANANDA

although B-B is usually a B school, and with elba's possible addition that would definately change...

and class C will be:
PAVILION
RED CREEK
KENDALL
SOUTH SENECA
WARSAW
PERRY
NAPLES
GENESEO
DUNDEE
CUBA-RUSHFORD
HARLEY ALLENDALE COLUMBIA

east rochester could be either class, and if b-b moves up, with elba's addition, than ER would be CC

Does that put Wheatland in class D this year?

[boobiemiles]

sweet ha thanks



yeah. i figured if i post enough information, then you could figure it out one way or another. it's kind of confusing because i'm not familiar to soccer's breakdowns

[pcssoccer2]

has anyone heard about the outdoor tourny in alexander? my coach said it was 6v6 with a goalie?

[pcssoccer2]

What would you like to know - I run it :-)

Half a field (35 wide by 55 long) with full sized goals (12 yard goalie box). Subbing on the fly like indoor. 6 field players and a goalie. Basically all the same rules as a normal game - only real exceptions are that goalies cannot punt or drop kick - they have to throw. Goal kicks/kick offs/goalie throws are indirect.

Its the 4th year we have run it - its been very fun the last few years. We had boys U19 and U17 two years ago but didn't have enough boys teams last year to run it. We always have all 4 girls divisions.

First Saturday in August. Come on out.haha nice thats my birthday!! haha but u most likely will see a perry team!!

[pcssoccer2]

What better way to celebrate your birthday then to come on out to Alexander and try to win a tournamentyeah ha:D

[baseball09]

nope he is a junior this year!! thank god!! :D

You better thank god that god blessed perry with a good player, who does most of the work all season for them if they didnt have him they would be nothing.

[pcssoccer2]

You better thank god that god blessed perry with a good player, who does most of the work all season for them if they didnt have him they would be nothing.i would have to disagree with that 100%..yeah hes nice to have but we have 5 sophmores (juniors next year) who are ver talented..also we have a 9th grader who had alot of points for his first time on varsity...

[TakeNotes134]

5+2+ 3 = 10. Am I right or do I need to go back to first grade math?

wow...... come on last time i checked 8-1-1 is better than 5-2-3 or whatever u guys had

[TakeNotes134]

Originally Posted by Eagle171
IDK about other schools but from what i heard about bath is that a lot of their players play year round in a league in elmira and thats why some of the younger guys like dillon wales jon smith and jason carpenter are so talented and i remeber from playing them last season that ppl like wales smith and carpenter and a lot of other kids on the team have a lot of speed and talent but are really cocky with bad attitudes and play act like theyr better than they really are.....maybe someone else knos what im talkin bout?

there is only one solution to this sort of problem. have a team beat the living **** out of them. then they will think twice about acting like they are the best team on the planet.


jeeze how bad did we beat you guys to hate us like this? soccerstud chill man think about all the stuff your saying and dont you guys think have have a right to be a little cocky bath is the best class B team in sectionv this year

[baseball09]

i would have to disagree with that 100%..yeah hes nice to have but we have 5 sophmores (juniors next year) who are ver talented..also we have a 9th grader who had alot of points for his first time on varsity...

Everytime we played you if lucas did not score we would have won. From what i have seen you guys always seem to try to pass the ball to him he is your scorer, your playmaker, He is your talent

[g24man44]

Everytime we played you if lucas did not score we would have won. From what i have seen you guys always seem to try to pass the ball to him he is your scorer, your playmaker, He is your talent

why not pass him the ball every time if he is their best scorer, he is there best scorer and there only chance at winning.

[pcssoccer2]

why not pass him the ball every time if he is their best scorer, he is there best scorer and there only chance at winning.alright i guess thats your opinion... but we still will have alot of young talent this year..

[bleedingblue13]

Originally Posted by Eagle171
IDK about other schools but from what i heard about bath is that a lot of their players play year round in a league in elmira and thats why some of the younger guys like dillon wales jon smith and jason carpenter are so talented and i remeber from playing them last season that ppl like wales smith and carpenter and a lot of other kids on the team have a lot of speed and talent but are really cocky with bad attitudes and play act like theyr better than they really are.....maybe someone else knos what im talkin bout?

there is only one solution to this sort of problem. have a team beat the living **** out of them. then they will think twice about acting like they are the best team on the planet.


jeeze how bad did we beat you guys to hate us like this? soccerstud chill man think about all the stuff your saying and dont you guys think have have a right to be a little cocky bath is the best class B team in sectionv this year

He's probably from Way-Co. We beat them like 4-0 and then 5-1. The second game was really dirty, in part because those refs sucked and just let everything get out of hand. This guy doesn't know us and just knows that our program has been putting out competitive teams ever since Mr. Hagadorn started coaching. Its all good. I know that we aren't the best program ever, and last year we definitely weren't the best team ever. We were good, but did we win states? We just went out every game and played as hard as we could to go and get the win. Sorry if nobody else likes us because we care so much, but thats what our program is all about. Doing the best we can. All respect in the world to those who beat us, and all those who try their hardest and have a passion for the game.

[teamfreaknasty]

What better way to celebrate your birthday then to come on out to Alexander and try to win a tournament

Yes to try and win a tournament lol. i actually may have a perry player playing for me since he is playing for me this summer. He would be the afore mentioned Lucas haha. Definitely looking forward to this tournament.

[pcssoccer2]

Yes to try and win a tournament lol. i actually may have a perry player playing for me since he is playing for me this summer. He would be the afore mentioned Lucas haha. Definitely looking forward to this tournament.yeah talks about playing at leroy alot.. we are pretty good friends

[TakeNotes134]

snavely soccerstud is from leroy not way co, we beat them 3-0 or something like that a couple years ago

[bcherry8]

well have u personally ever played Bath?
I was just saying that from a neutral point of view, which is where i am in this whole argument, it seemed believable.