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football#1
04-25-2007, 04:31 PM
A big hand goes out to the Elba football team for going at it against the big boys in 7 on 7 scrimmages at Total Sports Experience in Gates. All the teams except for Batavia were AA or AAA squads. It was nice to see a GR team go way out of its football class in order to improve.I think the knock on the GR is that they play it safe and do not try to challenge themselves with scrimmages or games above there own class or league to see where there talent really stands and what they need to improve on.If Elba keeps up the work in the off season maybe they will surprise some people.Elba is showing that they are committed to do what it takes to improve and try to win in the GR.

oh by the way,I'm not from Elba and don't know anybody from Elba!

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Section5sportsguy
04-25-2007, 05:23 PM
Doubt it.

hilly
04-25-2007, 09:47 PM
good to see the lancers step up and work hard in the offseason. i don't know if they will be a big surprise because the team has several good players returning, but i don't know if they can compete with oakfield or pembroke.
elba's problem last year was that the offense was a mess and never had an established running game. if that gets fixed, i think elba and attica should be on that second level.

sandman20
10-08-2007, 09:05 AM
good to see the lancers step up and work hard in the offseason. i don't know if they will be a big surprise because the team has several good players returning, but i don't know if they can compete with oakfield or pembroke.
elba's problem last year was that the offense was a mess and never had an established running game. if that gets fixed, i think elba and attica should be on that second level.

Elba is now 0-6????

ECS Parent
10-08-2007, 11:11 AM
Thanks for the vote of confidence. Elba's program is struggling due to many factors, and hopefully they will come around. They have several players with a lot of heart on the team and fortunate for coach Streb all the controversy leaves with the 2008 graduating seniors. It was nice to see "little Elba" participate with the "big boys" and give the coach a look at what is out there. I only hope that coach Streb will continue with the program, he is a great guy with endless potential as a coach! We may only be 0-6 but we are behind him 110%!

sandman20
10-08-2007, 11:33 AM
Thanks for the vote of confidence. Elba's program is struggling due to many factors, and hopefully they will come around. They have several players with a lot of heart on the team and fortunate for coach Streb all the controversy leaves with the 2008 graduating seniors. It was nice to see "little Elba" participate with the "big boys" and give the coach a look at what is out there. I only hope that coach Streb will continue with the program, he is a great guy with endless potential as a coach! We may only be 0-6 but we are behind him 110%!

Coach strebb is a nice guy but he cant coach he had alot of talent last year and did nothing...he is 2-12 in the GR league.......and his 2 wins were barker and holley....He needs alot of work he should of coached the modified or a Jv team he is not ready for the varsity level......If he does continue at Elba all you really will have is a nice guy with a last place football team i havenet seen any potential 15 point in six games so stay behind him because he will be behind all the other teams he needs the support GOOD LUCK

ECS Parent
10-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Unfortunately things run a lot deeper than this forum can allow, so all I will say is that a lot of the trash ends with this year and we will have to see what next year brings. To be fair to Coach Streb, he deserves a clean year to rebuild with no outside interference. It is easy for you to discredit a coach and his abilities but until you are in his situation, I don't see how you have room to talk. I commented on the fact that yes, he is a very nice man, and maybe that hurt him to start, but hey the truth is the truth. Elba has not been the only team in the area to have a coach take over after controversy and struggle (look at Batavia), I think instead of pointing fingers, give them time to adjust. I as well several of the other parents welcome his chance, understand his situation, and hope he does find success!

DrewVT6
10-08-2007, 12:18 PM
Coach strebb is a nice guy but he cant coach he had alot of talent last year and did nothing...he is 2-12 in the GR league.......and his 2 wins were barker and holley....He needs alot of work he should of coached the modified or a Jv team he is not ready for the varsity level......If he does continue at Elba all you really will have is a nice guy with a last place football team i havenet seen any potential 15 point in six games so stay behind him because he will be behind all the other teams he needs the support GOOD LUCK

You're a day late and a dollar short on the all too nasty Elba coaching debate.

I think as ECS_Parent said, there's a lot more issues surrounding this debate and they are too close to peoples hearts and open too many wounds to really have a civil discussion about.

I think people who got caught up in round 1 are going to keep a safe distance from this one.

hilly
10-08-2007, 09:47 PM
Elba is now 0-6????



A lot has happened since that post

sandman20
10-09-2007, 07:44 AM
A lot has happened since that post

Yes alot has happened.......I fell sorry for the kids and the community that loved to go watch and enjoy a winning football program. Thanks to everyone that understand that it was a mistake 2 years ago.....The facts speak for themselves. You cant give any excuses or try to reason, the facts are out and it was the wrong thing to do.......

football#1
10-09-2007, 10:52 AM
You're a day late and a dollar short on the all too nasty Elba coaching debate.

I think as ECS_Parent said, there's a lot more issues surrounding this debate and they are too close to peoples hearts and open too many wounds to really have a civil discussion about.

I think people who got caught up in round 1 are going to keep a safe distance from this one.

I'm confused.Did something new just happen in the last day or so?I'm reading these posts and have no clue what people are talking about.Anyone care to fill me in?

sandman20
10-09-2007, 11:15 AM
You're a day late and a dollar short on the all too nasty Elba coaching debate.

I think as ECS_Parent said, there's a lot more issues surrounding this debate and they are too close to peoples hearts and open too many wounds to really have a civil discussion about.

I think people who got caught up in round 1 are going to keep a safe distance from this one.

I'm confused.Did something new just happen in the last day or so?I'm reading these posts and have no clue what people are talking about.Anyone care to fill me in?

nothing new same old....this was a hot topic......

ECS Parent
10-09-2007, 08:38 PM
Yes alot has happened.......I fell sorry for the kids and the community that loved to go watch and enjoy a winning football program. Thanks to everyone that understand that it was a mistake 2 years ago.....The facts speak for themselves. You cant give any excuses or try to reason, the facts are out and it was the wrong thing to do.......

I don't want to keep beating a dead horse but to let this be the last word just doesn't work. Don't feel sorry for the community. 99% of us were behind the decision of the school. If you think that the fan base has declined, then you are wrong. In fact I know of several community members who would not go to a game two years ago to watch the theatrics of a the former coach and are glad to be back to support their alma mater no matter a win or loss. As someone stated before, you don't just jump ship when things aren't going good. Rebuilding takes time, I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. I must again state that winning is not everything, and it WAS the RIGHT thing to do!

Section5sportsguy
10-09-2007, 08:43 PM
I don't want to keep beating a dead horse but to let this be the last word just doesn't work. Don't feel sorry for the community. 99% of us were behind the decision of the school. If you think that the fan base has declined, then you are wrong. In fact I know of several community members who would not go to a game two years ago to watch the theatrics of a the former coach and are glad to be back to support their alma mater no matter a win or loss. As someone stated before, you don't just jump ship when things aren't going good. Rebuilding takes time, I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. I must again state that winning is not everything, and it WAS the RIGHT thing to do!

Yeah, cause the kids enjoy losing SO much more.

joeZam1
10-09-2007, 09:11 PM
I don't want to keep beating a dead horse but to let this be the last word just doesn't work. Don't feel sorry for the community. 99% of us were behind the decision of the school. If you think that the fan base has declined, then you are wrong. In fact I know of several community members who would not go to a game two years ago to watch the theatrics of a the former coach and are glad to be back to support their alma mater no matter a win or loss. As someone stated before, you don't just jump ship when things aren't going good. Rebuilding takes time, I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. I must again state that winning is not everything, and it WAS the RIGHT thing to do!

Here we go again Blah, Blah , Blah. If you hate me, I dont care but dont go around giving false percentages of who supported who, YOU are dead wrong. The kids WANT to WIN. Ask, Tony he will tell you that..The Fan base HAS declined, guaranteed..Many, MANY fans and parents were NOT behind the decision. And as far as your "rebuilding goes". There was no reason to fix what wasnt broken, I believe someone once said that..And as far as my so called theatrics goes, you wouldnt even begin to understand my relationship with...a......99% of the officials and coaches and parents..God bless you, you need help!And oh yeah, dont be afraid to come out behind your screen name. AND....I just happen to be watching a film the other day of the 2005 Sectional final game between the Lancers and Canisteo..You wouldnt believe how many fans were in attendance, cheering on the lancers, it was so much fun, I miss it..Were you there ECS parent? MY guess is YES.

sandman20
10-10-2007, 11:19 AM
I don't want to keep beating a dead horse but to let this be the last word just doesn't work. Don't feel sorry for the community. 99% of us were behind the decision of the school. If you think that the fan base has declined, then you are wrong. In fact I know of several community members who would not go to a game two years ago to watch the theatrics of a the former coach and are glad to be back to support their alma mater no matter a win or loss. As someone stated before, you don't just jump ship when things aren't going good. Rebuilding takes time, I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. I must again state that winning is not everything, and it WAS the RIGHT thing to do!

99% are you crazy did you go to the games when the other guys where there the crowds were huge....i have been to all the elba game this year nobody goes....winning isnt everything it is the only thing, does your kids go out racing motorcycles to lose i dont think so.....dont give me that, a hand full of you wanted him out.... he had over 800 signutures , it is people like you that give elba a bad name ...oh ya dont worry about elba football and the coaches worry about what you kids are doing......make sure they are doing the RIGHT THING???????

DrewVT6
10-10-2007, 12:10 PM
People: It won't take much to close or delete this thread. Please tread lightly.

sectionvfanforlife
10-10-2007, 12:49 PM
wow coach Zambito you shut that parent up haha

ECS Parent
10-11-2007, 09:54 AM
yes you are right blah, blah, blah the facts do speak for themselves and we know about your stats. I guess I will be the better man and agree to disagree. When and if you are asked to coach again I wish you and that district the best of luck!

sandman20
10-11-2007, 10:02 AM
yes you are right blah, blah, blah the facts do speak for themselves and we know about your stats. I guess I will be the better man and agree to disagree. When and if you are asked to coach again I wish you and that district the best of luck!

Let see.. 4 g/r titles.....1 section v class D title.......class D coach of the year he will be ask to coach again, That is some awsome stats thanks for seeing that ecs parent. Elba lost a great coach....To bad the jealouse cant handle it......And that is just football......

Berask
10-11-2007, 10:03 AM
yes you are right blah, blah, blah the facts do speak for themselves and we know about your stats. I guess I will be the better man and agree to disagree. When and if you are asked to coach again I wish you and that district the best of luck!

I'm not even from elba and i know that you are incorrect. I am friends with kids from elba, formerly on the Zambito coached football team, and they would also disagree with you. It shouldn't be the parents choice as to who coaches. It should be the people who are with the coach every single day, THE PLAYERS. Parents should butt out and let the kids handle themselves.

ECS Parent
10-11-2007, 10:52 AM
I am sure all the fans appreciate the fact that they are not at the games they think they are watching?! I am confused, I thought you boys liked horse races and what does that have to do with football? You must have me mistaken with someone else. Sounds like its people like you who give Elba the bad name. Good luck to you, too.

sandman20
10-11-2007, 11:03 AM
I am sure all the fans appreciate the fact that they are not at the games they think they are watching?! I am confused, I thought you boys liked horse races and what does that have to do with football? You must have me mistaken with someone else. Sounds like its people like you who give Elba the bad name. Good luck to you, too.

What are you talking about????????stop reaching for little stuff you are showing your ignorance......but what else should we expect....no we pretty much know who u are

joeZam1
10-11-2007, 11:17 AM
I am sure all the fans appreciate the fact that they are not at the games they think they are watching?! I am confused, I thought you boys liked horse races and what does that have to do with football? You must have me mistaken with someone else. Sounds like its people like you who give Elba the bad name. Good luck to you, too.

I enjoy a good horse race, for sure! And a good football game. Whats that have to do with the price of tea in China? I also love how she has become a "he". Look, Let it go, the facts indeed talk for themselves..I am very sorry that things are the way they are, you cannot tell me the kids are happy..At least the 20 or so that I know are not. And as for you thinking that Sandman is a relative of mine EEEEENNNNNTTTTTT. Wrong again, definitely isnt, although he/she seems to be a wise man. You also seem to think that the only people that support me are my family, wrong again. Although I love how everytime my name is brought up on this site you go crazy, do I get to you a little?

OldSchool78
10-11-2007, 12:02 PM
It's always about Joe. You do not have the great support that you think you do. It's always nice to believe that about ones self, however, the reality here is that you don't. Officials in basketball and football think you go overboard. Be honest Joe, how many basketball games were you ejected from when you were coaching? How many technical fouls did you receive when you were coaching? Be honest Joe. If your'e not, I know where I can get the facts.

DrewVT6
10-11-2007, 12:22 PM
People: It won't take much to close or delete this thread. Please tread lightly.

Just to reiterate.

sandman20
10-11-2007, 12:43 PM
It's always about Joe. You do not have the great support that you think you do. It's always nice to believe that about ones self, however, the reality here is that you don't. Officials in basketball and football think you go overboard. Be honest Joe, how many basketball games were you ejected from when you were coaching? How many technical fouls did you receive when you were coaching? Be honest Joe. If your'e not, I know where I can get the facts.

Like in life you always have those people that dont like things you do. I dont think Joe said that he was perfect did he????Have you made mistakes old school if you say NO you are a lier.... I have been around joe and alot not ALL officials tell him they miss him on the sidelines. So does your lack of knowlege lessen the mistake Elba made NO. Like i said Joe got at least 800 people to sign a paper to get him back to coaching., that is enough people to run for mayor. So before you speak get your facts straight because all you are doing is showing everyone you really dont know what went on but thanks for your thought....

joeZam1
10-11-2007, 02:11 PM
It's always about Joe. You do not have the great support that you think you do. It's always nice to believe that about ones self, however, the reality here is that you don't. Officials in basketball and football think you go overboard. Be honest Joe, how many basketball games were you ejected from when you were coaching? How many technical fouls did you receive when you were coaching? Be honest Joe. If your'e not, I know where I can get the facts.

OK mr "old school" here we go. I will be honest and AGAIN you havent got it correct...When I was coaching VARSITY BASKETBALL in 4 YEARS i received 3 Technicals..Until my brother got a tee and the obviously immature official doing the game thought it was me and kicked me out..That was the ONLY varsity game I was ever ejected from LOOK IT UP please! And if you can tell me otherwise, well I guess I was dreaming for 4 years..So you be honest old school, whats your grudge? Did I get you a little nervous too??:cool:

OldSchool78
10-11-2007, 02:21 PM
I have no grudge what so ever. I asked you how many times you have been ejected from a basketball game as a coach and you said it was one. That is incorrect!! Don't your JV years count? I think that to be even worse,considering how much younger and impressionable that age group is.
Joe, you have never made me nervous. I always thought of you as someone that lacked self-control. I find you quite amusing to be honest.

dfisch80
10-11-2007, 02:27 PM
....So, how 'bout them Mets??

hilly
10-11-2007, 03:14 PM
I really should just stay out of this, but I'm going to give my opinion.
I have known Joe Zambito for 7 1/2 or 8 years and the guy is a loud mouthed idiot that says a lot of the wrong things at the wrong time when he's coaching. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a problem with me saying that because I've told him that to his face many times.
But the guy was one heck of a good coach, especially for football. The kids on his team had a great time, he won a lot of games and he brought a community together. I have covered more sectional championships than I can count and when Elba won its football title under Zambito, it was one of the best memories I've had in my career. That and when Oakfield-Alabama (my old school) won its first title are the two most fun experiences I've had during a football season.
Am I friends with Joe ... yes. I am friends with a lot of coaches and I would say the same thing if John Dowd, Brian Moran, Chip Foster, Tony Streb or Rick Mancuso were fired the same way Joe was. The guy is a heck of a good coach and his players loved him.
I think it's time the Elba community realizes it made a mistake and just moves on. Give Tony all the support you can because he is a good guy and has the potential to be a very good coach.
Joe needs to get back into coaching to prove that he is a great coach. I know of an opening coming up that he should take (and we've talked about it).
Quit hating on Joe because he has a big mouth and does some stupid things. He was a VERY good coach and he did a lot for the little town of Elba. Those of you that are saying how bad he was sure as heck weren't at the 2005 sectional title game. I watched as parents were filled with joy, players cried because they did something that nobody thought would happen in Elba ever again and the community was united. I ran into one of the players from that team at dinner one night and we chatted for a couple of minutes. I was glad to hear he's doing well in his life, but he made the point to me that he missed his senior year and was glad to have a coach like Joe.
People in Elba should stop talking smack about Joe, Joe should move on and get back into coaching some place where he will be appreciated (and he knows where I think he should go) and we should all get on with our lives.
Elba - support Tony Streb and do not bail on this young man. Give him the help he needs to do a good job and lets get Elba football back to where it deserves to be.
This garbage has gone on for two years and it's time people move on.

hilly
10-11-2007, 03:18 PM
....So, how 'bout them Mets??


The Mets. I wish I were a Mets fan. I'm a Yankees fan and I'm still in mourning.

DrewVT6
10-11-2007, 03:24 PM
On that note, I think we're going to close this thread down.

If you want to beat a dead horse some more, I'm sure some farmer in the greater Rochester area has one for you.