LeRoy vs Geneva 2007

[SectionVDude]

Who would win leroy or geneva in 2007?

[FB4LIFE]

Geneva - speed, speed, speed - can't teach it - tough to beat it.

[Section5sportsguy]

Geneva - speed, speed, speed - can't teach it - tough to beat it.

My god they were fast. As ex-Florida LB Brandon Siler said" "We're a fast-ass team"

[dfisch80]

Who would win leroy or geneva in 2007?

I've never seen Leroy play and have heard they have a great program, but I'd have to take Geneva.

[soccerstud11]

Who would win leroy or geneva in 2007?

Are these teams actually scheduled to play or are you just asking out of curiosity?

[Section5sportsguy]

Are these teams actually scheduled to play or are you just asking out of curiosity?

Seems to be a hypothetical question, since hes asking who would win, 2007 LeRoy or 2007 Geneva. Two very strong football teams who made it to their state's semifinal in their respective classes.

[soccerstud11]

Seems to be a hypothetical question, since hes asking who would win, 2007 LeRoy or 2007 Geneva. Two very strong football teams who made it to their state's semifinal in their respective classes.

Ah, sorry, didn't take note of the 2007. I would put my input in here as I know quite a bit about the LeRoy football program over the past years but I do not know anything about Geneva so my $0.02 here would not mean anything.

[LRknight]

Who would win leroy or geneva in 2007?

gotta say it would probably be a good game to watch but in the end i think LeRoy would pull it off. The entire team is solid with the exception of coach Moran. Granted hes lead us to several sectional titles but we've been close to a state title several times. The 2007 season ended on a bad note because moran opted to try and punch in the winning TD instead of kickin a field goal from the 2 yard line to win the state title. With a coach that could balance the run with more passing, LeRoy arguably couldnt be beat by many teams.

[VFan05]

gotta say it would probably be a good game to watch but in the end i think LeRoy would pull it off. The entire team is solid with the exception of coach Moran. Granted hes lead us to several sectional titles but we've been close to a state title several times. The 2007 season ended on a bad note because moran opted to try and punch in the winning TD instead of kickin a field goal from the 2 yard line to win the state title. With a coach that could balance the run with more passing, LeRoy arguably couldnt be beat by many teams.


If that field goal was kicked and made, or even if LR scored on that last play it wouldn't have won a state title for them, it would have sent them to the finals. That being said, I would have loved to see these two teams play eachother. I think it would have been a fantastic game.

[GRbballno1]

I'll be the first to say that Le Roy's power-style game of football is one of the most impressive in Western New York, and has been for years. That being said, in high school football I think a true speed/quickness-oriented team will still always win out in the end. Since my area of expertise includes the areas in and around Genesee County, I'll use the examples I know.

Le Roy vs. Onondaga: this was a few years back, when Onondaga had Mike Hart. He alone embodied speed and quickness. Though it was a close game, Hart's and Onondaga's speed were too much for Le Roy's in-your-face power game to overcome. Look up "Mike Hart The Run" on YouTube ( http://youtube.com/watch?v=umDef_92fGc ) for a great example from this game. 64 yard run vertically, with about another 40-50 yards horizontally of precision cuts and all out quickness.

Oakfield-Alabama vs. E-R/Gananda: what a game. An O-A team that had blistered most of the GR takes its legendary and powerful modified Wing-T offense into a game against one of Rochester's high-profile and high-scoring air and ground attacks. Suffice it to say the game was a classic, but E-R comes out on top, with a whopping 441 yards through the air alone over O-A's slightly smaller and slightly slower defensive backs.

Oakfield-Alabama vs. Tuckahoe: again, O-A brings John Dowd's vaunted system into a game against a finesse, extremely speedy team. Systematically, Tuckahoe pulls away in this one, big gain by big gain. Another video example here ( http://www.videofiend.com/Tuckahoe-Football-States-Highlights-7666274.aspx ). You can see the instances where the Tiger players in white are just outrunning O-A's players, or charging quickly into the backfield to neutralize Oakfield's own speedster, McCracken. What a shame for such a talented team like 2006 O-A to go down at the end
of a wonderful year, but again--speed persists.
(Let it be noted that Oakfield did outpace an Onondaga team in the game before that featured Mike Hart's brother and several other fast young men. But this also goes to show that Onondaga was not the top-caliber, well-coordinated speed team that Tuckahoe was.)

Elba vs. Randolph: regional qualifier, 2005 (?). A Joe Zambito-coached team coming off impressive wins and a sectional title takes it to Section VI's finest at St. John Fisher. I won't say that Elba wasn't speedy in this year--certainly Matt Richenberg at wide receiver was a quick kid, and Dave Burr was no slouch at RB. However, Lucas Torrey--not too fast, power runner when he did run. Ciaci Zambito, same story at fullback. The Lancers were outclassed physically in many ways by Randolph, including speed. This one wasn't even close as Randolph went up and down the field on an impressive Elba team that unfortunately hit a buzz-saw here.

(Please note that I am not saying that power teams do not have fast runners, because they certainly do. My point is that they aren't oriented on using that speed to outrun defenders to and past the line of scrimmage. All speed does for a power team is eliminate angles of pursuit for the opposition once the power team's running back is twenty yards down the field running at full tilt)

Anyone else have other examples of this? Or arguments against it?

[DAMAGE INC 68]

I have seen Geneva play the last two years,in there Sectional Championship games. The team from two seasons was more impressive( obviouisly they won states). With that being said ( now is where Geneva fans will get mad). I didnt see either team as a speed team. Yes they had good team speed, but espically when Fowler was there they were a power team. He would wear down teams w/ his style of running. I'm in know way knocking either team but they deffinately a power running team. That being said I think Geneva would have smoked Leroy.

[GRbballno1]

That's my mistake then, Damage. Like I said, my area of expertise is the GR. I used to see Fowler on the newsreel highlights during that state run, and he looked to be very fast to me. Also I've seen Bobby Martin's highlight tape on this site, and that also led me to believe Geneva was a speed-offense type team. If Geneva really isn't geared for speed, I make the odds against Le Roy even. The side of Le Roy's O-Line with John Whiting and Marcus (?) Can't-Remember-His-Last-Name was utterly nasty. And Brady Bonaquisti was a man among boys whenever he had the ball.

To tell you the truth, I'd rather have Bennetti at QB than this year's kid (can't recall his name either--had a beard, Humphrey maybe?).

[leroydistance]

The Line men was marcus Epps and the QB wasnt humphrey it was Fenstamaker. and i have to say that fenstamaker was considerablely better then Bennetti

[GRbballno1]

Everyone here is entitled to their opinion. I got an impression of confident swagger from Bennetti on the football field, and his teammates definitely respected him. After all, he was around three years as varsity quarterback--that commands respect in itself, plus three years will breed mastery of a high school coach's system. I'm sure Bennetti knew it inside and out by his senior year. Fenstermaker (yes, I recall his name well now) was always a very productive player for Le Roy when he was at wideout. And I won't knock his success his senior year--all the congratulations in the world to him on a wonderful senior season, I never saw it coming from any person who would follow Bennetti. But if it was me on the field playing against Geneva's team, I'd like to have Bennetti's strong arm, solid running ability (which, yes, Fenstermaker also shared) and commanding persona.

But this thread is only about the 2007 Le Roy team playing the 2007 Geneva team, so I'll leave my wishing at that.

[VFan05]

I have seen Geneva play the last two years,in there Sectional Championship games. The team from two seasons was more impressive( obviouisly they won states). With that being said ( now is where Geneva fans will get mad). I didnt see either team as a speed team. Yes they had good team speed, but espically when Fowler was there they were a power team. He would wear down teams w/ his style of running. I'm in know way knocking either team but they deffinately a power running team. That being said I think Geneva would have smoked Leroy.


I think Geneva over the past few seasons has had a good balance of speed and power. They don't solely rely on one over the other which is why they have made deep runs into the state tournament 3 years in a row. I think your observation is pretty well on target Damage.

[leroydistance]

Yea This was only fensamakers junior season thought too he played last year as a wide out in 10th grade

[GRbballno1]

Ah. Again, my mistake. Seem to be having a few of those on here.

[soccerstud11]

The Line men was marcus Epps and the QB wasnt humphrey it was Fenstamaker. and i have to say that fenstamaker was considerablely better then Bennetti

I agree, if Fenstermaker had the opportunity to be the starting quarterback for 3 years like Bennetti did then his numbers would surpass Bennetti's by a whole lot!

[BombeRLV56]

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[soccerstud11]

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do you even know anything about leroy football?

[bcherry8]

do you even know anything about leroy football?
I doubt it. And since you were talking about Fenstermaker at WR, if we wanna talk about great LeRoy wideouts, Craig Tiberio put up insane numbers

[soccerstud11]

I doubt it. And since you were talking about Fenstermaker at WR, if we wanna talk about great LeRoy wideouts, Craig Tiberio put up insane numbers

it helps that he was like 6' 5'' lol.

[BombeRLV56]

do you even know anything about leroy football?

I have seen them play once and i am going on what i have heard and based on there roster.........and i have played geneva and know their players and how well they play.