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hilly
04-13-2008, 08:11 PM
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OUT OF BOUNDS
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Finally
With all the lousy weather we've had in recent weeks, it was nice to have a full week of Section 5 athletics, even though spring break is going to put an end to that for a week.
I made it out to the Avon/Le Roy baseball game on Tuesday and it was a great start to the spring season.
The weather was in the mid-60s with almost no wind and no rain or snow.
The game itself was a 9-0 blowout in favor of the Oatkan Knights but the score isn’t always what spring is about now, is it?
Parents gathered along the fence to talk football (I was in Le Roy), the players had a great opportunity to shake off the rust and all thoughts of the snow finally left everybody’s mind.
You never know what to expect this early in the season in terms of quality of baseball, but it was a pretty good game for my first of the year.
Avon had two baserunners in the season-opener for Le Roy ace Shayne Herold, but the squad that had just upset Keshequa was no match for what should be one of the better teams in the Livingston Conference this season.
The Le Roy lineup is strong from top to bottom and Herold is definitely one of the stronger pitchers in the area.
It was definitely a good start to the season.


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Pool Play mistake
I wrote a story this week on the new way Section 5 is doing the pool play games and I’m not a fan.
I wasn’t a fan of pool play to begin with and this is 10-times worse. A law firm sponsors the tournament, which I think is a mistake to begin with because no other high school tournament is named after a sponsor.
I have never understood the benefit of having a pool play title in the first place because you are basically rewarding the teams not good enough to make the real tournament.
People had no problem with how things were being run because there is no trophy, no MVP and teams that win are left with a small sense of accomplishment.
But now kids are going to be rewarded a championship trophy and a false sense of accomplishment for beating two teams that might have three combined wins.
Some of those in favor of playing up pool play will tell you that it makes the games more interesting and young kids will gain from winning games.
As much as this could be true, think about all the negatives that come from it.
Why would any kid want a trophy or a patch for winning games when his team’s season is a total failure. If your team went 1-6 during the league season, you should not be in the playoffs.
The next step is logically giving awards to players on the teams that lose in the sectional semifinals. If the teams that aren’t good enough to make the playoffs get awards, why don’t the teams that couldn’t win the playoffs the other teams didn’t get into?
I’ve always thought that teams that don’t make the sectionals should be able to schedule two exhibition games against teams that are at the same level once the regular season ends.
If a team doesn’t want to participate, it shouldn’t be forced to and teams should be able to schedule games that will benefit the program.
Maybe this is just the way things are going in society but it doesn’t mean we have to like it.

hilly
04-13-2008, 09:59 PM
I have seen several schools with pool play trophies in their trophy cases - Attica being one of them. So trophies were given out for pool play "titles"



I have never heard of a pool play trophy given out. When did Attica win that and get the award?
And why would they display it?

Giles
04-14-2008, 05:43 AM
I have never heard of a pool play trophy given out. When did Attica win that and get the award?
And why would they display it?

You have the fill the space with something....:D

Section5sportsguy
04-14-2008, 09:15 AM
I know I saw it in the tropy case when I used to have front door duty when I worked there.

Yeah, but its in the "first-to-go" section of the trophy case. When we get our next sectional title im sure it will be moved. At least we have won a league title since 1977, something that you made an entire banner for, but it looks pretty empty with about 1/32 of its space filled with a 1977.

ref301
04-15-2008, 09:51 AM
Yeah, but its in the "first-to-go" section of the trophy case. When we get our next sectional title im sure it will be moved. At least we have won a league title since 1977, something that you made an entire banner for, but it looks pretty empty with about 1/32 of its space filled with a 1977.

Who is "you" in your quote?

hilly
04-15-2008, 01:24 PM
I wasn't bashing Attica for having the trophy...I was simply stating that Hilly was incorrect when he said trophies weren't given out for pool play. I saw a pool play trophy someplace else too but I can't remember what school it was.

I didn't make a banner for anything :-). Alexander doesn't have a soccer banner anyplace in the entire school to show our Division titles in 2001, 2003, 2004, and 2007 or our Sectional title in 2004.


I'm wondering if its a situation where a school can order a trophy for winning the games.
I've never seen a pool play trophy anywhere, but I'm not really looking for it. I've also never heard of a coach talk about a trophy before this.

Attica Coach
04-15-2008, 08:09 PM
I have never heard of a pool play trophy given out. When did Attica win that and get the award?
And why would they display it?

I have been at Attica since 1998 and I have never seen this trophy. It could be in there but I have never seen it. If it exists it must be hard to find.

GRBball2008
04-15-2008, 10:49 PM
I believe a past Attica employee and a current Attica student both confirm its existence so it leads me to believe its there.

Section5sportsguy
04-16-2008, 07:14 AM
I have been at Attica since 1998 and I have never seen this trophy. It could be in there but I have never seen it. If it exists it must be hard to find.

Pysher stole it.

conors72
04-16-2008, 09:01 AM
I'm wondering if its a situation where a school can order a trophy for winning the games.
I've never seen a pool play trophy anywhere, but I'm not really looking for it. I've also never heard of a coach talk about a trophy before this.

hahahahaha batavia's got a pool play plaque. it says "section v champions" lol. i'm not even kidding. they either give it to you at the game or mail it to you. it's obviously cheap and plastic, but hey. we were section v champions apparently.

conors72
04-16-2008, 09:02 AM
and by the way this is becoming out of control. the moderators have too much control. they have to approve posts before they can be put up? ridiculous.

UNCTarheels
04-16-2008, 10:19 AM
and by the way this is becoming out of control. the moderators have too much control. they have to approve posts before they can be put up? ridiculous.

The only reason the posts on this thread have to be approved is because this thread is on our front page, we do not want 1st time visitors to the site clicking on and finding something undesirable that we may have missed.

also threads on the front page usually aren't supposed to feature back-and-forth dialogue, that's not what we're looking for, hopefully this answers your question.

TopShelf
04-16-2008, 05:34 PM
I don't remember seeing the pool play trophy either Attica Coach. No I did not steal it, although I do recall seeing a certificate in the trophy case, that's it.

bcherry8
04-16-2008, 06:59 PM
Attica won their pool play championship in 2005 when they beat Batavia 9-6 in the finals

bcherry8
04-16-2008, 07:07 PM
I don't remember seeing the pool play trophy either Attica Coach. No I did not steal it, although I do recall seeing a certificate in the trophy case, that's it.
Attica won the aforementioned pool play chamionship in 2005 when they defeated Batavia 9-6 in the championship game.

bcherry8
04-17-2008, 07:18 AM
Crap, sorry about the double post, i thought it didnt get approved the first time

conors72
04-18-2008, 06:32 PM
Batavia won the 2006 pool play trophy by stomping attica 22-8