Private Schools

[greeceman]

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[listerineuser]

If public schools are scared of private schools stacking up teams then why not better your program. maybe if you better your program then those kids from private schools might just comeback to the public schools.who cares if they recruit, tell your kids to get better so public school sports programs will be better. i think that people should stop complaining about how good private schools are. any team can beat anyone on any other given day.

[philberry]

You make it sound as if the public schools own these kids. Isn't this America? The bottom line is that no private school could ever lure a top notch player from a good program. If they could wouldn't Dupra be at a private school? Fact is the private schools attract top line players from bad schools and programs as well as the second line players who are looking for a shot or a fresh start. All good programs recruit, public and private. They can't help it all players want to play in good programs. So if your team is losing players, improve your program and keep them. P.S. Nobody wants to play for whiney losers, just a hint.

[ITSAGAME]

How come a few years ago when teams were looking to schedule a "private" school so they could beat up on them, nobody complained. Now that "private" schools are able to compete with public schools people are whining. If you live in Greece you can choose 4 high schools to attend. Does that seem fair. Public schools have more money to invest in sports program (actually have a sports budget), have better equipment (than most private schools), better practice facilities (than most private schools), usually have better chance of college scholarships due to exposure to more recruits, kids play together from travel teams to high school. WHERE IS THE UNFAIR ADVANTAGE THAT THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS HAVE??????

[DrewVT6]

I think that aquinas,mcquaid,bishop kearney,finney,mercy and there are a few I am missing should not be allowed to compete in the NYSPA state tournment . I think that they should be banned from state comp starting next year.Any one else agree????

You know in Buffalo people are starting to say they should admit the Private schools back into Sectionals. They are getting upset that Rochester/Section V is winning so many state titles and they are getting very few.

What they really ought to do is create a transfer rule, similar to California. Either sit out an entire season, or half of a season IF you transfer from school to school between 9th and 12th grades. Then they have a board that rules on extenuating circumstances. That way kids aren't just jumping to Aquinas after a good year at Arcadia.

[UNCTarheels]

I don't have a problem with the private schools playing in the tournament, they make the public schools better and keep them on their toes, you don't want the same school winning every year if they do they get complacent and don't try to improve.

[philberry]

I said years ago to the yahoos who wanted to get the privates out, if you lower the level of competition within the section you will be less competitive outside the section. Section VI is no longer competitive in the state. Their private leagues are some of the best, however and the publics are losing many top athletes to the privates because the competition and exposure is better. Look at the Buffalo paper, the Monsingor Martin League gets the press coverage. With the exception of basketball in the upper classes Buffalo is not competitive in any sport state wide, not even Football!
Another example is Section 3, who is not exactly a lower class powerhouse in the state despite having a large number of small schools. They move up the privates to higher classification. All this does is make them better and draw better athletes. Look at CBA, a D school 10 years ago. Section 3 moved them up first to C then to B and now they are AA. They rose to the competition at every level. Now they dominate Section 3 and do very well state wide in the highest class. And the section 3 people are still complaining about them when they made them by giving them a bigger stage to play on. So if you want what Buffalo or Syracuse has follow their mistakes.
A lesson from history, Socialists like Stalin and Hitler (they ended poorly) remove the competition and weaken their countries. Stiff competion makes everyone better, so rise to meet it. That is the American way, that is why we are the best.

[saints_dad]

Prior to the 1970's, the parochial schools in the Rochester area played in their own leagues amongst each other and didn't play public schools at all. There was no state championship tournament, only polls in the newspaper.

In the early 1970's, Section V finally decided to allow games to be scheduled between public and parochial schools. The big game that showcased this was in football, Aquinas versus Madison at Aquinas Stadium. The stadium was almost full, there were probably 15,000 people at that game, split between Madison and City League fans and Aquinas fans. Guess who won? Madison.

I'd hate to see things revert back to the old way, where parochial and private schools couldn't play public schools. In a way, that's discrimination and I'm not for that at all. Parochial and private schools charge tuition to go there and that in itself limits who can go to those schools. Does anybody know how much tuition is at Aquinas? I'm guessing it's around $7000 or so.

[DrewVT6]

I'd hate to see things revert back to the old way, where parochial and private schools couldn't play public schools. In a way, that's discrimination and I'm not for that at all. Parochial and private schools charge tuition to go there and that in itself limits who can go to those schools. Does anybody know how much tuition is at Aquinas? I'm guessing it's around $7000 or so.

Yes, the tuition is high, but the only way private schools can be truly successful is by building an endowment. With an endowment schools like Aquinas are able to offer financial aid to over 50% of their students.

Some of the small non-Catholic, Christian schools in the Rochester area are struggling because they do not have a good sized endowment nor do they have a good plan to build one. Finney is the only school who is really building a good foundation to be a lasting private school. And lately they have had more athletic success because they have had more financial aid to hand out.

[SectionVsportsfan]

Public schools should back off when complaining about Private Schools bringing in kids. Where would Lima Christian's sports programs be, if Beth Allport hadn't gone to HFL and the Hudson girls starting in Lima-Christian, played a few soccer games this year, then winding up in Bloomfield.

Do you think C-S would have been State Champions if Bruce Larrison and Zach Simpson, residents of Bradford, had stayed in Bradford. Or if Sean Mourhess who lives in Addison, had played in Addison?

David Zapata One of the best football players in the State lives in Canisteo and plays football for Hornell. Ryan Hunt and DJ Schwartz live in Arkport and play in Hornell. The Youngs that played for Hornell, live in Alfred-Almond school district.

Megan Gee, the Class D State Soccer Player of the Year at Arkport lives in Dansville, as does her brother, who now plays for Arkport.

The Wightman kid from Avoca, although he moved, now plays in Prattsburgh.

This is just a few. My point, don't put it all on the Private Schools. The Public Schools do it also.

[DrewVT6]

That's the truth and it especially happens in the City school district. It also happens in the Greece school district. Renting an apartment a few blocks over can do wonders and it's nowhere near as expensive as a private school.

[saints_dad]

Although there is financial aid available for parochial school students (thanks to Bob Wegman), what the student gets is based on the parent's income. Any private school lurkers out there, please feel free to jump in here and let us know what it's costing you to send your kid to private school. As far as transfer students go, in places like Ohio where HS football can be really big-time, it's a very controversial issue.