Top Young coaches coming up in Section V

[hoopsfan]

I saw this topic posted over on the Syracuse website and thought it was a good thread for discussion over here. What are people's thoughts on who some of the top young coaches coming up thru Section V are??

[UNCTarheels]

I saw this topic posted over on the Syracuse website and thought it was a good thread for discussion over here. What are people's thoughts on who some of the top young coaches coming up thru Section V are??

J.J Garwood-Northstar

Rob Stedman-Hornell

Wayne Hanley-Alexander

Collin Button-Canisteo-Greenwood

Kevin Greenway-Dansville

Todd Isaman-Keshequa

Bill Mitchell-Williamson

[hoopfan33]

Brett Caravale (spelling?) at Clyde-Savanah - did a good job last year and brought some discipline to the team last season

Steve Hout at Red Creek - Had some talent last year - will have to build a program in a soccer town

[boobiemiles]

Gary Kurkowski from oakfield-alabama

[pcssoccer3]

Brent Gillete from perry

[Bravesfan08]

Gotta put Fries in there from Avon. Went 22-1 in his first year including a Divison title and the LCAA tournament title. They should also be very good again next year and will challenge for a sectional title with 8 of there top 9 coming back

[Braves2410]

Yea Fries deff needs to be up there

Along with there top 8 back they have a strong JV class that went undefeated so as hard as it seems they might be better next year than they were this year.

[BravesRTops]

Seconding Gary Kurkowski. . . straight out of college and the man coaches like he's been at it for years.

[GodHelpUs]

daniel west

[lcaa5]

Yea Fries deff needs to be up there

Along with there top 8 back they have a strong JV class that went undefeated so as hard as it seems they might be better next year than they were this year.

In all due respect to Rob Fries I think hes a great coach. But to be completely honest with everybody, I think anybody couldve coached that team to an undefeated season and a semi birth. I think John Roberts left Fries with a lot of talent and did mamoth strides to make those players the way they are. In two seasons if the Braves are still a threat in sectionals then I will believe that hes a fantastic coach. He was left a pretty damn easy job in my opinion.

[CAL12]

I do think that Rob has done a nice job, but the feeder programs have a lot to do with it as well. I don't know how involved he is with this. The more involved he is, the longer their run at sectionals will be. If he isn't involved, the program will suffer.

[kendallbench07]

Justin Laureano kendall

[DrewVT6]

In all due respect to Rob Fries...

He's not that young is he? He's been coaching for a while. He must be what...35-38?

If you're going to call Fries young, then you need to put Jeff Curtis from Charlotte in this group.

Scott Fitch is in this group, but he's like the Lebron James of the group. He's so good you don't consider him a young guy.

[boobiemiles]

In all due respect to Rob Fries I think hes a great coach. But to be completely honest with everybody, I think anybody couldve coached that team to an undefeated season and a semi birth. I think John Roberts left Fries with a lot of talent and did mamoth strides to make those players the way they are. In two seasons if the Braves are still a threat in sectionals then I will believe that hes a fantastic coach. He was left a pretty damn easy job in my opinion.
i think that coaching must of played a huge role in avon's success this year. a team full of underclassmen need a leader.

it's tough to go undefeated without good coaching. some of your games are going to be close and you need a coach to help them get by

[Braves2410]

roberts had little to do with most of the players except for 3 or 4 of them and not all of them had significant playing time. Fries made the team come together and developed both a strong offence and defence and just because you have a strong and talented team doesnt mean that the job is easy. You still have to live up to the expectations which they did going 22-1 which wouldnt have happened without him at the wheel.

[Bravesfan08]

I completely agree with Braves2410. In my personal experiance in the program Roberts did very little to develop the program at the younger level. They (the Robert's) seemed to focus on just a couple of players when they were younger and seemed to care about them more than the rest of us (IMO). Also you have to remember that Fries was the JV coach so he had a lot of those guys on JV preparing them for the varsity level. Having played for both coaches I would choose Fries every time, and I know they will continue to have success while he is the coach.

[lcaa5]

Those 3 or 4 players they have lead the team evry night and are the sole to that team in my opinion(McBride, Phillips, and Banach). We'll see in two years when the starting 5 is completely gone and a new group with Stanton's younger brother is there. I have known and coached against Roberts before and I know that those three players were developed early because he knew they could lead the team......many coaches focus on 2 or 3 main players to lead the team.

[Bravesfan08]

Those 3 or 4 players they have lead the team evry night and are the sole to that team in my opinion(McBride, Phillips, and Banach). We'll see in two years when the starting 5 is completely gone and a new group with Stanton's younger brother is there. I have known and coached against Roberts before and I know that those three players were developed early because he knew they could lead the team......many coaches focus on 2 or 3 main players to lead the team.
No offense to those three players who are all very talented but Thomas Wolcott was the heart and sole of that team.

[lcaa5]

No offense to those three players who are all very talented but Thomas Wolcott was the heart and sole of that team.

I absolutely 100 percent agree with you because if it werent for his leadership there may have been a war between the players from what i hear. But in retrospect, Phillips Banach and McBride stood out the most in my opinion as the reason why that team won that many games(not taking away anything from Kesel who was phenomenol for them.) Wolcott was the backbone in my opinion while the others served as the heart and sole.(or what ever way you look at it)

[Bravesfan08]

I absolutely 100 percent agree with you because if it werent for his leadership there may have been a war between the players from what i hear. But in retrospect, Phillips Banach and McBride stood out the most in my opinion as the reason why that team won that many games(not taking away anything from Kesel who was phenomenol for them.) Wolcott was the backbone in my opinion while the others served as the heart and sole.(or what ever way you look at it)
I agree with that. Any way you put it they were all very important to our team's success.

[The1andONLY51]

The 2004-2005 season had the same results for Campbell-Savona. 2003-2004 brought the school's first sectional title in basketball, and the end of the Mike Wright era. Merlin Button stepped in the next year and the team went 24-1 losing to Sodus (28-0, State champs) in the Regional play off. I don't know about Avon's case, but Merin didn't really coach that year, in many game tapes you can see either Collin Wright or Bruce Mourhess calling time outs, Collin called most of the plays along with Matt Newman. With a starting line up of Matt Newman Will Cornett Geoff Layton Collin Wright and Bruce Mourhess, Merlin didn't really do all that much coaching, IMO he used this first year as a learning type thing to adjust to the varsity level, and the next year we won states. IMO this is what the Avon coach did, he walked into the talent that was molded by the previous coach. Let's see how they do next year, should be a great year for them.

[RCcitymiller]

stephen hout from red creek did a very nice job with his team this year. he definitely turned that team around and they are heading for good things in the future.

[sectionVHYPE]

He's not that young is he? He's been coaching for a while. He must be what...35-38?

If you're going to call Fries young, then you need to put Jeff Curtis from Charlotte in this group.

Scott Fitch is in this group, but he's like the Lebron James of the group. He's so good you don't consider him a young guy.


depends what you are calling young, he is young to the varsity basketball program considering it was his first year this year soooo there ya go

[flwball11]

Les Miller from Dundee, won the sectional title this year

[boobiemiles]

Les Miller from Dundee, won the sectional title this year
Gary Kurkowski will be taking the reigns from Coach Merrit Holley this year... Coach K just finished a 20-0 season coaching the jv's, and has had a streak of 16+ win seasons that goes back as far as i can remember

[khiky69r]

HOOTIE!! lol yes i would agree with RCcitymiller and hoopfan33. Excellent coach pretty good player in college too. Perhaps his motivation is his wife:):). (payback)lol

[Giles]

stephen hout from red creek did a very nice job with his team this year. he definitely turned that team around and they are heading for good things in the future.

They should have beat Perry in Round 1. Based on their history Red Creek had a good year. Based on the talent they had, I think they had a VERY disappointing year. I'm not sure if they're going to get players like Roden and Pafundi on the same team for a while.

[hoopfan33]

They should have beat Perry in Round 1. Based on their history Red Creek had a good year. Based on the talent they had, I think they had a VERY disappointing year. I'm not sure if they're going to get players like Roden and Pafundi on the same team for a while.

For some coaches it will be an uphill battle. Hout had an OK year at RC - but it will be a struggle to compete with schools that have a youth program. Some coaches have the benefit of taking over a strong basketball program - not to discrediit anything they have accomplished. He will struggle in the near future until they develop a basketball program. It is also tough to play second fiddle to another very strong program in a small school. Those kids play soccer all year.

[studlystuderson2]

good athletes can only take you so far.

[hoopfan33]

Sometimes it's not X's and O's - it is Johnnies and Joes - at this level team with the best basketball players win. Not that coaching is not important but in some cases coaches can just let your players loose.

[RCcitymiller]

That is definitely true..however you can see that sometimes the teams with better players dont necessarily win all the time, and so you have the underdog. The team that isn't quite the best but the team that nobody expects. They come in, and even though they don't have the 'players', per say, they have the determination and the drive. PHD, as I recall, could fit here. The team that wants it more, will get it, no disrespect to the very very good teams with very very good players that are out there.

There's X's and O's and there's Johnnies and Joes, but sometimes its how the two fit together that creates success.

[hoopfan33]

9 times out of 10 the team with the most talent wins. The occasional Division III basketball team can beat a Division I team, ask Iona - that does not mean that the Division III can compete like that every day, game in and game out. They can be Poor, Hungry and Driven (Pitino's PHD he looks for in a recruit) and that helps - but you need the talent to go along with that. Several of the coaches on this list came into a pretty good situation, and they will surly agree with that. It does not mean that they are not good coaches, but wins and losses don't always tell the tale of a coaches ability. Is Bill Self a better or smarter coach after his National Championship? In his eyes, no. He said he is not any smarter he was just lucky enough to win it all.

The bottom line is there are several very good coaches in Section V, whether young, old, new or veterns. Schools with tradition will likely do better in the begining. I'm sure that the new coaches are trying to keep it going. Time will tell how well they do. Can they develop talent? Can they teach the game? Can they build a program? Can they retain the tradition? These question can only be answered with time. Maybe it will be 5 or 10 years before we can truly evaluate these young guys.

[RCcitymiller]

yes of course, but that wasn't exactly what i was aiming at but you are still correct. Talent is a major factor, perhaps the only factor, but it all depends on how it is used.

[Coachstewstinks]

yes of course, but that wasn't exactly what i was aiming at but you are still correct. Talent is a major factor, perhaps the only factor, but it all depends on how it is used.

Good point

[coachstew]

Good point

Nice name!

[dukefanman]

This is rediculous shut this down everyone gets on here except UNC and thinks thier coach is in this running... pointless to run this

[bcherry8]

Good point
That name shows alot of class :rolleyes:

[bcherry8]

This is rediculous shut this down everyone gets on here except UNC and thinks thier coach is in this running... pointless to run this
Agreed. Its everybody throwing their school's coach out there.