Talksback Athlete of the Year

[Raoul-Duke]

Now that the school year is over, I think we should try and figure out who the Athlete of the Year was in Section 5.
I think you can't say a one sport athlete is the best of the year, we should only talk about kids that play more than one sport.
Maybe we could set up a poll or something once we get some nominations.

[Snowboarder32]

Now that the school year is over, I think we should try and figure out who the Athlete of the Year was in Section 5.
I think you can't say a one sport athlete is the best of the year, we should only talk about kids that play more than one sport.
Maybe we could set up a poll or something once we get some nominations.

you'd have to take an athlete who does 3 sports and take their strongest
this'd be real hard haha i like the idea but not sure if it's gunna work easy

[Raoul-Duke]

you'd have to take an athlete who does 3 sports and take their strongest
this'd be real hard haha i like the idea but not sure if it's gunna work easy



You could do two sport athletes.
You are from Alexander and I think you could put Leitten on the list. He led his team to its first sectional title in baseball and he was a pretty consistent contributor on the basketball team.

[coachstew]

Now that the school year is over, I think we should try and figure out who the Athlete of the Year was in Section 5.
I think you can't say a one sport athlete is the best of the year, we should only talk about kids that play more than one sport.
Maybe we could set up a poll or something once we get some nominations.

I love the idea, but are you going to done per class?? A lot of kids in the bigger schools don't get to play more than one sport.

[Raoul-Duke]

I love the idea, but are you going to done per class?? A lot of kids in the bigger schools don't get to play more than one sport.



We probably could. I was just throwing the idea out. Lets get ideas in this thread and then set up polls for Class A, B, C and D after we get enough nominations.

[Snowboarder32]

You could do two sport athletes.
You are from Alexander and I think you could put Leitten on the list. He led his team to its first sectional title in baseball and he was a pretty consistent contributor on the basketball team.

ah alright i see, that makes sense

[soccerstud11]

I nominate Devin Skidmore from Alexander. Went to states in indoor track for the 300 (10th place in the trials). Also went to states in outdoor track for the 400 hurdles (2nd place) and 4 by 400 (3rd).

[Snowboarder32]

I nominate Devin Skidmore from Alexander. Went to states in indoor track for the 300 (10th place in the trials). Also went to states in outdoor track for the 400 hurdles (2nd place) and 4 by 400 (3rd).

curse you for stealing my nomination!

[soccerstud11]

curse you for stealing my nomination!

Haha, I know. I was trying to find the results from indoor fast because I was thinking to myself Tim is probably typing up the same thing right now. lol

[BathRamsFan]

First name that comes to mind. Andre McCloud JR BATH,(some hard thinking was involved there LOL)
1400 yrds + , and a whole lotta TD's for the sectional finalist Rams football team. GAMBREAKER, and a shutdown corner to boot.

Starting PG for the Sectional semi-finalist Rams Basketball team.

Lets see... track ..my hand might get tired here... Section V class B outdoor champ in 100m, 200m, Long and Triple Jump. 2nd in state in 100m and 3rd in the state in 200m (won his prelims plus second in LJ prelim)

other might not be so obvious. Mike Rossi Jr Bath
Goalkeeper for the Class B Champion Soccer team. Had some obscenely low GA number.

Starting forward on the sectional semifinalist Rams Basketball team. Team leader.

Ace Pitcher (undefeated I believe) for the Section five classs B Champion and Western Regional Finalist Rams Baseball team.... No better clutch pitcher in sec V..not even up for discussion. Put up big numbers at the plate also and played well at first and third in the field.

[kendallbench07]

I nominate Devin Skidmore from Alexander. Went to states in indoor track for the 300 (10th place in the trials). Also went to states in outdoor track for the 400 hurdles (2nd place) and 4 by 400 (3rd).

track is track...indoor and outdoor. There may be a slight difference but not enough to say you do two different sports.

[Snowboarder32]

track is track...indoor and outdoor. There may be a slight difference but not enough to say you do two different sports.

shup up it's two differnt seasons and 2 sports.

[soccerstud11]

track is track...indoor and outdoor. There may be a slight difference but not enough to say you do two different sports.

Actually they are very different. In indoor the running events are different lengths. For example in outdoor you have the 100, 200, 400, 800, mile, 2 mile, 110 hurdles, and the relays (4 by 4, 4 by 8, 4 by 1). In indoor you have the 55, 300, 600, 1000, 1 mile, 2 mile, 55h, and the relays (4 by 2, 4 by 4, 4 by 8). So indoor and outdoor are very different sports. Sayin that indoor and out door are the same is like saying cross country and track are the same. Yeah, they all involve running but all 3 are very different in their own little ways.

[bball4life]

How about Ben Antonucci for football, wrestling, and baseball. In know Alexander's football team wasn't that good this year, but he still put up over 1,000 yards rushing. I can't remember how he did in wrestling, but I'm pretty sure he finished in the top 5 for his weight class in Section 5 Division II. And along with Leitten, he led Alexander to their first baseball sectional title in school history.

[Snowboarder32]

How about Ben Antonucci for football, wrestling, and baseball. In know Alexander's football team wasn't that good this year, but he still put up over 1,000 yards rushing. I can't remember how he did in wrestling, but I'm pretty sure he finished in the top 5 for his weight class in Section 5 Division II. And along with Leitten, he led Alexander to their first baseball sectional title in school history.

I think Benny took 2nd at sectionals for wrestling I may be wrong though

[bball4life]

I think Benny took 2nd at sectionals for wrestling I may be wrong though

Yeah that's what I thought too. But I wasn't sure if it was 2nd or 3rd.

[coachstew]

I'll throw a name in here. How about Brent Ayers from Dundee. First team all state LB, MVP for a sectional finalist in basketball, and I promise you there aren't many hitters like this guy on a baseball field.

[bball4life]

Does Jaani(sp?) Beckford play any other sports besides basketball, because if he did he would have to be in consideration for Class D for what he did for Northstar, taking them all the way to the state finals.

[jrabaseball]

jon schwind - Hilton

1st team all county soccer, team MVP. Captain

1st team all-county hockey, player of the year, captain, team MVP, literally heart and sole of team.

1st team all-county baseball, co-player of the year, captain, third time 1st team all-county, D1 Marist secondbasem, two-time team MVP (07 and 08)

If jon isnt a serious contender for athlete of the year NO ONE IS!

[kendallbench07]

Actually they are very different. In indoor the running events are different lengths. For example in outdoor you have the 100, 200, 400, 800, mile, 2 mile, 110 hurdles, and the relays (4 by 4, 4 by 8, 4 by 1). In indoor you have the 55, 300, 600, 1000, 1 mile, 2 mile, 55h, and the relays (4 by 2, 4 by 4, 4 by 8). So indoor and outdoor are very different sports. Sayin that indoor and out door are the same is like saying cross country and track are the same. Yeah, they all involve running but all 3 are very different in their own little ways.

there is a slight difference. The fact of the matter is running is running, it really takes alot more to be extremely good at basketball and baseball or wrestling and football then it does to be running 1/2 mile and 1 mile. There's a difference.

[Snowboarder32]

there is a slight difference. The fact of the matter is running is running, it really takes alot more to be extremely good at basketball and baseball or wrestling and football then it does to be running 1/2 mile and 1 mile. There's a difference.

this post is garbage. ignorance.
lets see you run a mile under 5 minutes, or hurdle less than 16 seconds

[Bravesfan08]

there is a slight difference. The fact of the matter is running is running, it really takes alot more to be extremely good at basketball and baseball or wrestling and football then it does to be running 1/2 mile and 1 mile. There's a difference.
You obviously arent a runner if u dont know what it takes to be good. I can only speak for xc and distance events but i know it takes countless hours of off-season training and running pretty much every weekend to even have a chance of being good.

Compare this to say basketball (another sport i play) you don't have to go out and shoot hoops every weekend or play 5-6 days a week in the summer to have a chance at being good (i will admit it helps). But still, u need to do that to be good at running distance where its not a neccesity(sp?) in basketball.

[adAms08]

I think that you should consider:

Sean Michele, ER - Soccer (runner up for Section V class C); Basketball (Section V class C championship, played in Ronald McDonald All Star game, named to AGR team); Tennis

Anthony Roden, Red Creek - Soccer (Section V and State championship); basketball, baseball (Sorry, I don't know if he was named to any AGR teams but I would be shocked if he wasn't)

Anthony Danizio- ER - soccer (class C runner up, named to AGR 2nd team); basketball (Class C championship, played in Ronald McDonald All Star game, named to AGR second team); tennis


All 3 of those guys were pretty much the story of Wayne County athletics this year and you'd be hard pressed to find any guys who were more athletic than them.

[secfivesports]

You obviously arent a runner if u dont know what it takes to be good. I can only speak for xc and distance events but i know it takes countless hours of off-season training and running pretty much every weekend to even have a chance of being good.

Compare this to say basketball (another sport i play) you don't have to go out and shoot hoops every weekend or play 5-6 days a week in the summer to have a chance at being good (i will admit it helps). But still, u need to do that to be good at running distance where its not a neccesity(sp?) in basketball.

no one is saying that track isnt a difficult sport; it is very difficult. Being a section V champion in track is a phenomenonal acheivement. With that said though, the people who are contend for sectional titles in indoor track also contend for sectional titles in outdoor track, because they are basically the same, so I agree that being one of the best in section V in indoor and outdoor track isnt as impressive as doing it hockey and baseball like jon schwind did this year.

Other potential candidate may be Tomarris Bell from McQuaid in track and football, Matt Jones (Aquinas) in football and basketball, Chad Dillard (Gates-Chili) in football and basketball

With all due respect to Devon Skidmore, I do not feel he should get this award, he holds numerous school records at Alexander I'm sure, but I wouldn't even name him track and field athlete of the year in section V...it would be Eric Fontanez, and being close to AGR in 2 completely different sports like Jon Schwind, Matt Jones and Chad Dillard did is much more impressive.

[Raoul-Duke]

Can we please not make this into a fight as to if track is worthy or not?
We shouldn't argue, just make nominations and I'm sure drew, bill or boobie can set up the polls. I am all for banter back and forth about if track is a sport or not, but lets just get names out there so we can set these polls up. There are 1,500 people registered on here and we can probably give these kids the recognition they deserve.

[kendallbench07]

no one is saying that track isnt a difficult sport; it is very difficult. Being a section V champion in track is a phenomenonal acheivement. With that said though, the people who are contend for sectional titles in indoor track also contend for sectional titles in outdoor track, because they are basically the same, so I agree that being one of the best in section V in indoor and outdoor track isnt as impressive as doing it hockey and baseball like jon schwind did this year.

exactly what i am saying, im not saying that track isn't difficult at all. I have been to a few track meets and what some of those people do is very impressive. I am just saying that indoor track and outdoor track is so close in comparison it would be hard to give the athlete of the year, based on being good at two or more sports, to someone who is extremely good at indoor track and outdoor track, i have nothing else to contribute to this thread because no one from kendall would be a nominee...haha

[boobiemiles]

nice. i'll put this on the front page to replace my blog for this week :p

[jrabaseball]

someone who does indoor and outdoor track should not be considered two sport athlete. running different distances does not count as two sports. now someone exceptionally good at both indoor track and outdoor track is definitely impressive, but not grounds for nomination for an Athlete of the Year award.

guys like sean michele, jon schwind, etc., are three sport athletes who have excelled in their three sports each season. THEY are the only people we should consider for such an award.

[DSport]

Maybe Dave Valle?

[section5v33]

I think Northstar's Dave Valle would warrent serious consideration:

BASKETBALL-section V champs, state finalists 4th team all state

BASEBALL-section V champs, 1st team all state last year, likely a 1st teamer this year as well

[soccerstud11]

someone who does indoor and outdoor track should not be considered two sport athlete. running different distances does not count as two sports. now someone exceptionally good at both indoor track and outdoor track is definitely impressive, but not grounds for nomination for an Athlete of the Year award.

guys like sean michele, jon schwind, etc., are three sport athletes who have excelled in their three sports each season. THEY are the only people we should consider for such an award.

So we are going to punish someone by saying they aren't worthy of an Athlete of the Year award simply because they do almost the same sport in two different seasons?

[LEROY]

there is a slight difference. The fact of the matter is running is running, it really takes alot more to be extremely good at basketball and baseball or wrestling and football then it does to be running 1/2 mile and 1 mile. There's a difference.

yea pretty much anyone can run a 1/2 mile or mile but pretty much anyone can wrestle someone or play basketball but distance running takes a lot more dedication to be a great runner

[ScioSoftball]

I would like to put on the list for Class D Kirstyn Manning Sr. 2nd team All-star for soccer led the team in scoring in Basketball first team all star and pitcher for softball First team all-star and 3 time Big 30 all star and 3 time MVP for softball! Thanks

[UNCTarheels]

It's kind of hard to break up the Large School/Small School athletes but I'll try and put something together later on today as far as a Poll we can only list 10 so lets start making a list of worthy Candidates and I'll create a poll.

I agree that Dave Valle should be on that list, Wade Fuller certainly deserves to be on that list as he was an All Star in Soccer, Basketball & Tennis. Andre McCloud, Mike Rossi & Cody Hutcheson all from Bath deserve to be on that list as well, so it's going to be difficult to do and make everybody happy, I think it's just about impossible to do but we'll give it a shot.

[soccerstud11]

It's kind of hard to break up the Large School/Small School athletes but I'll try and put something together later on today as far as a Poll we can only list 10 so lets start making a list of worthy Candidates and I'll create a poll.

I agree that Dave Valle should be on that list, Wade Fuller certainly deserves to be on that list as he was an All Star in Soccer, Basketball & Tennis. Andre McCloud, Mike Rossi & Cody Hutcheson all from Bath deserve to be on that list as well, so it's going to be difficult to do and make everybody happy, I think it's just about impossible to do but we'll give it a shot.

Maybe we should pick 1 athlete per school by letting the members from each school decide who they want to represent them. Then from there we can narrow the list down to 10 and then vote to see who wins.

[bball1003]

I think Brent Owens should be considered to be mentioned in this group.

Soccer- Birdseye Player of the Year for Class C. Scored over 60 Goals and had over 30 assists for career. I think his Sr. year numbers were 23 goals and 6 assists. First team Liv. Conference D-II All-Star. Played in Section V All-Star Game.Going to Roberts on a soccer scholarship.

Basketball- 3-Time Birdseye player of the week during his Sr. Year. 2 time Liv. Conference All-Star (Jr. and Sr. Year). Led team in most statistical categories. Played in Ronald McDonald Game. Also accepted basketball scholarship to Roberts. Will be playing 2 sports.

Track- Only year he has competed in sport, won Pentathalon Sectionals for class CC. Won numerous individual events throughout the seaons.

One of the most respected and well-liked athletes of his school, community, and more so among many other coaches and players throughout Livingston Conference. A true competitor and class act.

[kendallbench07]

I nominate myself for Kendall...XC Basketball Tennis. Unstoppable.

[Giles]

I think Brent Owens should be considered to be mentioned in this group.

Soccer- Birdseye Player of the Year for Class C. Scored over 60 Goals and had over 30 assists for career. I think his Sr. year numbers were 23 goals and 6 assists. First team Liv. Conference D-II All-Star. Played in Section V All-Star Game.Going to Roberts on a soccer scholarship.

Basketball- 3-Time Birdseye player of the week during his Sr. Year. 2 time Liv. Conference All-Star (Jr. and Sr. Year). Led team in most statistical categories. Played in Ronald McDonald Game. Also accepted basketball scholarship to Roberts. Will be playing 2 sports.

Track- Only year he has competed in sport, won Pentathalon Sectionals for class CC. Won numerous individual events throughout the seaons.

One of the most respected and well-liked athletes of his school, community, and more so among many other coaches and players throughout Livingston Conference. A true competitor and class act.

I second this. Great athlete, great kid.

[DrewVT6]

Does Clay Harris from RH do a spring sport? He was very good in football and basketball.

Dillard from Gates-Chili was fantastic in football, very very good in basketball...what does he do in the spring?

Tomarris Bell from McQuaid is another guy who needs to be in this discussion. He's a very good football player and basketball player (did he play bball this year?) and he's undoubtedly one of the top track athletes in the area.

Andre McCloud is a very good option.

Dave Valle's year at Northstar is just remarkable even at a class D school. To be a key part of 3 sectional titles in one year is amazing.

[bball4life]

Does the athlete HAVE to play 3 sports, or can he only play 2?

[bcherry8]

Noah Seward

[DrewVT6]

I think we posted the poll too early.

Other guys we should look at:
Brad Shelofsky Athena:1st team AGR soccer player, Honorable Mention Basketball
Matt Grabowksi Victor: 1st team AGR soccer player, leading scorer Victor's hockey team
Jerrold Brooks East: 1st team AGR football, Honorable Mention Basketball, State Qualifier in Track&Field

[trojan03]

ben antonucci

football
alexander rushing record holder
most td's in alexander history
eddie meath football player
gr allstar

wrestling
2nd in sectionals after losing to #1 seed by 1 point
most wins on team
gr allstar

baseball
.500 average hitting
2nd most homeruns
gr allstar
sectional champ
best catcher in gr

the kid is a phenomenal athlete and is going to sjf to play football and has a definite shot at started at hb as a freshman.. now tell me that's not badass

[dfisch80]

:(...Darn 3 sport athletes, LoL

[Giles]

Trevor Stearns, Gananda

Soccer - 1st Team Wayne County (Jr and Sr)
Basketball - 1st Team Wayne County (Sectional Champion '07, Finalist '08)
Track - Wayne County Champion (tied 2nd in Sectionals)
Baseball - 1st Team Wayne County in 2007

[Footballfan65]

Out of all of those guys on the list, how many won a state championship in something?


Id vote Cody Hutcheson. The kid won states in wrestling (toughest sport out there, and was ranked 18th in the nation as a junior at his weight) and was a key player for Bath's football team that made it to sectional finals and lost to powerhouse Geneva.

[bcherry8]

I think we posted the poll too early.

Other guys we should look at:
Brad Shelofsky Athena:1st team AGR soccer player, Honorable Mention Basketball
Matt Grabowksi Victor: 1st team AGR soccer player, leading scorer Victor's hockey team
Jerrold Brooks East: 1st team AGR football, Honorable Mention Basketball
I agree. Maybe Fenstermaker or one of the Humphrey brothers from LeRoy could be considered as well. They all play at least two sports, in football, you know how good they were, and during the winter Fenstermaker excels in basketball, Ian Humphrey is a great sprinter/jumper, while Mike plays basketball.

[UNCTarheels]

I think we posted the poll too early.

Other guys we should look at:
Brad Shelofsky Athena:1st team AGR soccer player, Honorable Mention Basketball
Matt Grabowksi Victor: 1st team AGR soccer player, leading scorer Victor's hockey team
Jerrold Brooks East: 1st team AGR football, Honorable Mention Basketball

We'll have to do another one at some point, There was a lot of guys that got left off Jerold "Mr" Brooks was also competing in states this past weekend for Track & Field I believe he was on a very good relay team.

[soccerstud11]

I agree. Maybe Fenstermaker or one of the Humphrey brothers from LeRoy could be considered as well. They all play at least two sports, in football, you know how good they were, and during the winter Fenstermaker excels in basketball, Ian Humphrey is a great sprinter/jumper, while Mike plays basketball.

They all play 3 sports. I would say that Ian or Mike are excellent choices. Ian holds our indoor track record for the high jump (6' 2") and is tied for the outdoor record in high jump (6' 3"). Mike broke a lot of records this year in outdoor (tied high jump with 6' 3", 110 hurdles (not sure on the time), and pentathalon (only did it 3 times and broke the record twice).

[trojan03]

Out of all of those guys on the list, how many won a state championship in something?


Id vote Cody Hutcheson. The kid won states in wrestling (toughest sport out there, and was ranked 18th in the nation as a junior at his weight) and was a key player for Bath's football team that made it to sectional finals and lost to powerhouse Geneva.

well that's why I voted ben antonucci. He lost to hutcheson 3-4 in a match that many people think he should have won. the ref didn't give back points when ben had him almost pinned for a while so that woulda made the score 5-4 antonucci.

[Pinnum]

Kameron Konert

NYS Final 4 in Football

Section V Championship in Baseball.

Missed Basketball due to surgery from football season (lead basketball team to sectional finals the season prior.)

Many awards.

D1 football and baseball player going on to play at Davidson College.

May not be everyones pick but should be in the running.

[bcherry8]

They all play 3 sports. I would say that Ian or Mike are excellent choices. Ian holds our indoor track record for the high jump (6' 2") and is tied for the outdoor record in high jump (6' 3"). Mike broke a lot of records this year in outdoor (tied high jump with 6' 3", 110 hurdles (not sure on the time), and pentathalon (only did it 3 times and broke the record twice).
Doesnt Fenstermaker play baseball?

[iheartbasketball]

You should also find an athlete of the year for girls as well...

[UNCTarheels]

Yeah we will here soon..........

[bball4life]

You should make a new poll for each class, or have more athletes in the current poll. Nothing against Bath, there is probably some great athletes at that school, but there shouldn't be 3 athletes from the same school in the poll.

[boobiemiles]

You should make a new poll for each class, or have more athletes in the current poll. Nothing against Bath, there is probably some great athletes at that school, but there shouldn't be 3 athletes from the same school in the poll.
3 bath kids and nobody from the gr?

[BathRamsFan]

You should make a new poll for each class, or have more athletes in the current poll. Nothing against Bath, there is probably some great athletes at that school, but there shouldn't be 3 athletes from the same school in the poll.

But when you look at the accomplishments of those 3 kids, it's hard to say any of the 3 aren't worthy of consideration. And oh yeah..the great thing is, all 3 are JUNIORS and will be back next year! Great time t be a RAM!

There are a lot of great athletes throughout this section right now...I haven't even voted yet.

[UNCTarheels]

3 bath kids and nobody from the gr?

Hutcheson was a huge part of the Rams Sectional Finals Football team and won A State Championship in Wrestling.

McCloud Obviously had an outstanding year in Football, had a Decent Basketball Season and followed it up with an Awesome Track&Field Season placing in the State Championship in what 3-or-4 events?

Mike Rossi had a terrific Soccer Season I believe he picked up several All Star awards and selections and had a pretty good Goals against average, he also had a good Basketball season followed up by an impressive jr. year in Baseball leading Bath to a Sectional title and is likely to start receiving awards and recognition any day now.

I realize that I'm probably a "Homer" for putting all 3 on the poll but how can you argue with their resumes? funny thing is I almost put a 4th Brett Havens and he has the resume to back it up, I thought 4 was too much.

[BATHFAN]

I know this is another Bath guy but what about Eric Argentieri? He was a stud on the Bath offensive and Defensive lines, he just bench pressed 360 at a weightlifting competition, and on top of all that he is Valedictorian of this years senior class.

This was an article in the Steuben Courier a few weeks ago

http://www.steubencourier.com/news/2008/0608/schools/026.html

[bcherry8]

Hutcheson was a huge part of the Rams Sectional Finals Football team and won A State Championship in Wrestling.

McCloud Obviously had an outstanding year in Football, had a Decent Basketball Season and followed it up with an Awesome Track&Field Season placing in the State Championship in what 3-or-4 events?

Mike Rossi had a terrific Soccer Season I believe he picked up several All Star awards and selections and had a pretty good Goals against average, he also had a good Basketball season followed up by an impressive jr. year in Baseball leading Bath to a Sectional title and is likely to start receiving awards and recognition any day now.

I realize that I'm probably a "Homer" for putting all 3 on the poll but how can you argue with their resumes? funny thing is I almost put a 4th Brett Havens and he has the resume to back it up, I thought 4 was too much.
And those players are facing much tougher competition

[adAms08]

You should make a new poll for each class, or have more athletes in the current poll. Nothing against Bath, there is probably some great athletes at that school, but there shouldn't be 3 athletes from the same school in the poll.

I actually agree with you 100%. 3 kids from Bath and no one from Sutherland, Brighton, Fairport, etc? It seems like it's mostly not Monroe County people who post here (as compared to a LOT of Bath people), so I am guessing that their absence on this board has a lot to do with all the kids from those schools being left off. Not to mention all the kids who have been specifically mentioned here and left off, whose resumes are at LEAST equal to (if not far more impressive than) some of the kids on the list. Feel free to accuse me of being biased, too - but Sean Michele being left off is a complete joke. Honestly? I've never even heard of the kid in the lead... and I read the D&C sports section almost everyday, along with this board...

[boobiemiles]

I actually agree with you 100%. 3 kids from Bath and no one from Sutherland, Brighton, Fairport, etc? It seems like it's mostly not Monroe County people who post here (as compared to a LOT of Bath people), so I am guessing that their absence on this board has a lot to do with all the kids from those schools being left off. Not to mention all the kids who have been specifically mentioned here and left off, whose resumes are at LEAST equal to (if not far more impressive than) some of the kids on the list. Feel free to accuse me of being biased, too - but Sean Michele being left off is a complete joke. Honestly? I've never even heard of the kid in the lead... and I read the D&C sports section almost everyday, along with this board...
the kid in the lead probably deserves it... he's one of the best running backs in section 5, and he is a good basketball player, and an outstanding sprinter, probably the best in section 5

[UNCTarheels]

I actually agree with you 100%. 3 kids from Bath and no one from Sutherland, Brighton, Fairport, etc? It seems like it's mostly not Monroe County people who post here (as compared to a LOT of Bath people), so I am guessing that their absence on this board has a lot to do with all the kids from those schools being left off. Not to mention all the kids who have been specifically mentioned here and left off, whose resumes are at LEAST equal to (if not far more impressive than) some of the kids on the list. Feel free to accuse me of being biased, too - but Sean Michele being left off is a complete joke. Honestly? I've never even heard of the kid in the lead... and I read the D&C sports section almost everyday, along with this board...

I have to question that you read the D&C and don't know who Andre McCloud is!! He's likely going to be the Best Running Back in Section V next season and is also probably one of the top Track & Field guys returning next season, he's likely to have several D1 offers for both Football & Track, at least that's what I hear.

I agree several guys got left off but I'm certain that Andre McCloud is more deserving than Sean Michele, Although Michele led his Basketball team to a sectional title I'm not sure if he did enough this spring to garner a Player of the year nod!

[DrewVT6]

Guys I think we're going to change up the poll here real soon.

[DrewVT6]

Corey Brizzee, Livonia (Football, Basketball, Baseball)
Jason Beaumont, HFL (one of the top QBs in Section V, good Bball player, excellent pitcher)
Connor Henderson, Canandaigua (AGR 1st team in football, 2nd in Basketball, all state and leader of lax team that went 22-1) --wow there's someone we overlooked.

[adAms08]

I have to question that you read the D&C and don't know who Andre McCloud is!! He's likely going to be the Best Running Back in Section V next season and is also probably one of the top Track & Field guys returning next season, he's likely to have several D1 offers for both Football & Track, at least that's what I hear.

I agree several guys got left off but I'm certain that Andre McCloud is more deserving than Sean Michele, Although Michele led his Basketball team to a sectional title I'm not sure if he did enough this spring to garner a Player of the year nod!

If you think all Sean Michele did this year was lead his team to the Sectional basketball title, you clearly haven't been paying attention...

[UNCTarheels]

I know he did well in Soccer as well, but what in the spring?

[dfisch80]

I know he did well in Soccer as well, but what in the spring?

...Tennis.

[adAms08]

You're right; Sean Michele did very well in soccer this year, winning the Wayne County league title and making it to the Sectional Finals game, where they lost to eventual state champion, Red Creek.

In addition to leading his basketball team to their first Section V Championship in 45 years, he also accomplished the following this basketball season:

- Topped 500 career assists
- Topped 1000 career points; broke school all-time scoring record
- MVP for Section V Class C
- Named to the All Greater Rochester team
- Invited to play in the Ronald McDonald All Star game, where he was one of the highest scorers
- 1st Team All State


He plays tennis in the spring, and although I don't have his stats, I am fairly certain the team was undefeated throughout the regular season, which he was a large part of.

I don't doubt that the guy in the lead is an extremely talented athlete, and I am not saying that Sean Michele is better than him, necessarily - I am just saying that he deserves a spot on that list. As do a lot of other athletes who got left off.

[tgrs07]

According to the poll, there isn't a single Allegany County athlete that merits consideration. (Aaron Rygiel and A-A compete in Steuben) A lot of Sectional hardware headed south to the AC this year, and yet no love for any of the athletes?

[rockandroll34]

Sean Michele is a decent all-around athlete but you certainly can't put him in the same conversation as that Canandaigua kid Connor Henderson.

[jrabaseball]

Jon Schwind - Hilton

Standout three sport athlete in Baseball (Division 1 Marist, 1st Team Monroe County Division 2, Monroe County Division 2 Player of the Year, AGR Player of the Year, 4 year player Class AA/AAA), Hockey (League player of the year, Team captain, 4 year player), and Soccer (1st Team All-County, Captiain).

If anyone has seen this kid play any of his three sports you will know without a doubt that this kid deserves this award without a doubt. He also received most athletic for the Senior class of 08' at Hilton high School.

[trojan03]

this whole thing is like livingston.. no GR .. it's bias

[boobiemiles]

this whole thing is like livingston.. no GR .. it's bias
shoulda just named the site livingstontalksback.com

JUST KIDDING (SARCASM)

[rockandroll34]

At least I know what I'm talking about.com.
And last I checked, Connor Henderson is from Canandaigua which is the Finger Lakes.
Morons all over the place!!!!

[DrewVT6]

Sean Michele is a decent all-around athlete but you certainly can't put him in the same conversation as that Canandaigua kid Connor Henderson.

Connor Henderson is someone we really overlooked. What that kid did athletically at the Class AA level is pretty amazing. He did it playing QB (one of the 'skill' positions in football), and two other 'skill' sports, too.

[DrewVT6]

I changed up the poll, but realized people probably won't be able to vote again. So we're going to start over with a new poll. I'll post it shortly.

[DrewVT6]

According to the poll, there isn't a single Allegany County athlete that merits consideration. (Aaron Rygiel and A-A compete in Steuben) A lot of Sectional hardware headed south to the AC this year, and yet no love for any of the athletes?

What sectional hardware went to AC this year? Northstar won all the class D titles.

Did any school in DD appear in more than one Sectional final?

[DrewVT6]

this whole thing is like livingston.. no GR .. it's bias

I'm pretty sure we'll add Antonnucci.

[DrewVT6]

You're right; Sean Michele did very well in soccer this year, winning the Wayne County league title and making it to the Sectional Finals game, where they lost to eventual state champion, Red Creek.

In addition to leading his basketball team to their first Section V Championship in 45 years, he also accomplished the following this basketball season:

........


He plays tennis in the spring, and although I don't have his stats, I am fairly certain the team was undefeated throughout the regular season, which he was a large part of.

I don't doubt that the guy in the lead is an extremely talented athlete, and I am not saying that Sean Michele is better than him, necessarily - I am just saying that he deserves a spot on that list. As do a lot of other athletes who got left off.

Was he captain of his team in soccer? 1st team all county? 1st or 2nd team AGR?

What about in Tennis? Is he the best player on his team? ...in the county? in Section V?

Is he better at his 3 sports than Danizio?

The guys who are going to win this and who should be considered weren't just really good at one sport. Conor Henderson for example was one of the top players in Section V in EVERY sport he played.

[UNCTarheels]

What sectional hardware went to AC this year? Northstar won all the class D titles.

Did any school in DD appear in more than one Sectional final?

Fillmore from Allegany County won Sectionals in Soccer & Basketball both in Class DD.

Bolivar-Richburg is also from Allegany County and won Class D Sectionals in football & Baseball Sectionals in Class C.

[bcherry8]

At least I know what I'm talking about.com.
And last I checked, Connor Henderson is from Canandaigua which is the Finger Lakes.
Morons all over the place!!!!
Highlight his whole post, he said he is joking, but the font color is white. And Henderson is one kid. Why dont you look at the facts before you call someone a moron. Last time i checked, there are five people, half of the poll, from Livingston County.

[DrewVT6]

Ok. What winter sport does Kameron Konert play? Does he excel in that sport as well?

What sport does Aaron Martin play in the spring? He was one of Fillmore's top players in soccer and basketball, right?

[UNCTarheels]

shoulda just named the site livingstontalksback.com

JUST KIDDING (SARCASM)

I realize that this site is dominated by certain areas of Section V i.e G.R, LCAA, & Steuben county But there's a reason behind that, We started this site from scratch and had to try and advertise by word of mouth. Myself being involved in Steuben County as well as Livingston County and with Brian Hillabush being a GR guy it's obvious that the first people we'd contact would be Athletes, Coaches & Media in our area, therefore that explains why right now those are the prominent leagues and teams we talk about on here. My Friends in the media happen to be Brian Hillabush from the GR, Chris Metcalf from the Livinston County News & Derrick Balinsky from the Hornell Evening Tribune, that should also explain why people from Livingston County & The GR are on here...........

[UNCTarheels]

Ok. What winter sport does Kameron Konert play? Does he excel in that sport as well?

What sport does Aaron Martin play in the spring? He was one of Fillmore's top players in soccer and basketball, right?

Kam Konert played Basketball but injured his knee in football and I believe missed the entire season.

It's Devon Martin (Aaron Graduated last year) he played Baseball and was good, he started on the mound in the 1st round win vs. J-T, pitching a complete game, he came on in releif in the 2nd round vs. Avoca but it was too late as Avoca had already built a huge lead.

[DrewVT6]

Kam Konert played Basketball but injured his knee in football and I believe missed the entire season.

The baseball thing says he was the football player of the year for 2007, too.

[UNCTarheels]

And he also helped lead the Basketball team to the Class C Sectional Finals his Junior year as well before losing to Red Jacket.

[DrewVT6]

I see what you're saying he injured his knee in football and missed all of basketball...my bad.

[UNCTarheels]

I see what you're saying he injured his knee in football and missed all of basketball...my bad.

Exactly right, he injured it in the State Final Four loss to Walton

[boobiemiles]

I realize that this site is dominated by certain areas of Section V i.e G.R, LCAA, & Steuben county But there's a reason behind that, We started this site from scratch and had to try and advertise by word of mouth. Myself being involved in Steuben County as well as Livingston County and with Brian Hillabush being a GR guy it's obvious that the first people we'd contact would be Athletes, Coaches & Media in our area, therefore that explains why right now those are the prominent leagues and teams we talk about on here. My Friends in the media happen to be Brian Hillabush from the GR, Chris Metcalf from the Livinston County News & Derrick Balinsky from the Hornell Evening Tribune, that should also explain why people from Livingston County & The GR are on here...........
i was just joking. but i fully understand why there are more people from some areas than others

[adAms08]

Was he captain of his team in soccer? 1st team all county? 1st or 2nd team AGR?

What about in Tennis? Is he the best player on his team? ...in the county? in Section V?

Is he better at his 3 sports than Danizio?

The guys who are going to win this and who should be considered weren't just really good at one sport. Conor Henderson for example was one of the top players in Section V in EVERY sport he played.

I don't remember if he was AGR or anything for soccer, but I know that he got an AGR honorable mention for tennis. Honestly, my knowledge of his accomplishments mostly centers around basketball, but my lack of knowledge about his specific stats doesn't make his accomplishments less notable. Someone's gotta have that info.

And I would argue that Danizio is far better than Sean at soccer, they are ALMOST equal in basketball but Sean gets the slight edge, and Sean is better at tennis. I think they both probably deserved a spot on the poll, though, as they are both phenomenal athletes.

[secfivesports]

he didnt play basketball this year, he did football, indoor track, and outdoor track, I still feel like he probably deserves to be on this list, because he is phenomenal in track and football, but I didnt vote for him because he is only a junior. Jon Schwind on the other hand is one of the best in section v in 3 sports.

[DrewVT6]

Guys I think realistically it's going to take a 3 sport athlete to win this. So if you skip a season you'll pretty much have to be the best in Section V at the two sports you did, to win.

Ok so here's my thinking on the Bath kids remaining:

Andre McCloud 1st team Livingston County, No AGR selection for football, honorable mention for basketball for all league, and AGR 1st team in track and field.

Mike Rossi 2nd team AGR for soccer, team won sectionals lost 1-0 in western regionals; LCAA Honorable Mention for Basketball;
1st Team AGR for baseball, Class B MVP, team lost in western regional 2-1.

So I'm thinking that Rossi's listing in the top 20 of his fall sport puts him ahead of McCloud for the past season. I guess I don't see a problem including both of them.

[DrewVT6]

Kaheem Gist did basketball in the winter, right? What did he do in spring?

What honors did he get?

[HandS 80]

I go to school with Anthony and he is a great competitor/student. but ive also seen wat Andre could do over at Bath and idk its a tough choice but I definantly believe one of those two are more than deserving

[bath#1]

Andre Mcloud-football, basketball, track

Awesome RB-1500+ YARDS and 28 TD's
Basketball star-averages about 16 points per game
Track-broke school records in the 100m, 200m, and long jump
-broke hornell invite record in the 100 and 200
-broke LCAA 100m and long jump record
-broke wellsville spring day 100m and 200m records
-placed 2nd in 100m, 2nd in long jump, and 3rd in 200m at state meet

[Allegany County]

Kameron played basketball until Christmas break when he had surgery on his shoulder not his knee. He was a dominate force inside and BR missed his presence when he had surgery. I believe he missed the most of April during baseball season. BR has turf so they start their baseball games at home early. He received the Foy - Davies Award from the Olean Times Herald as the male scholar - athlete of the year.

[UNCTarheels]

Kameron played basketball until Christmas break when he had surgery on his shoulder not his knee. He was a dominate force inside and BR missed his presence when he had surgery. I believe he missed the most of April during baseball season. BR has turf so they start their baseball games at home early. He received the Foy - Davies Award from the Olean Times Herald as the male scholar - athlete of the year.


I appreciate you clearing that up for me, I was obviously mistaken but knew he missed b-ball because of an injury so i wasn't totally off

[bcherry8]

Andre Mcloud-football, basketball, track

Awesome RB-1500+ YARDS and 28 TD's
Basketball star-averages about 16 points per game
Track-broke school records in the 100m, 200m, and long jump
-broke hornell invite record in the 100 and 200
-broke LCAA 100m and long jump record
-broke wellsville spring day 100m and 200m records
-placed 2nd in 100m, 2nd in long jump, and 3rd in 200m at state meet
Thats why he's on the poll (and has the most votes) dude

[boobiemiles]

Thats why he's on the poll (and has the most votes) dude
well he's just giving stats to back it up
and a lot of him having the most votes is because it's half track people

[jmr4616]

Jason Beaumont HFL 1st team all-league football, basketball, baseball set ebery passing record in football played in ronald mcdonald game for basketball and one of top pitchers in section v for baseball

[DrewVT6]

Jason Beaumont HFL 1st team all-league football, basketball, baseball set ebery passing record in football played in ronald mcdonald game for basketball and one of top pitchers in section v for baseball

Yeah I'm pretty sure McCloud didn't do as well in his 3 sports as some of these other guys. I'm not even sure he's the best 3 sport athlete at his school.

[BATHFAN]

Yeah I'm pretty sure McCloud didn't do as well in his 3 sports as some of these other guys. I'm not even sure he's the best 3 sport athlete at his school.

I have to disagree, I have seen a number of athletes come and go over the years and he may be the best athlete to come through Bath since Mike Apple in the mid 90's. That is just my opinion but if the kids worst sport is basketball in which he averages 16 pts/game that is impressive no matter who you are.

[rockandroll34]

McCloud is definitely the best three-sport athlete at his school. In fact, I don't think it's even close.
He is one of the top running backs and kick-off and punt returners in all of Section 5 as well as a solid defensive back. If you take him off that roster, Bath football is average at best, and certainly not very exciting. McCloud was probably the most explosive player in Section 5 small schools a year ago, and that's including Zapata.
He's an average basketball player at best. But his numbers weren't bad and his defense was solid.
In the spring, he's the top sprinter and jumper in Section 5, and one of the best in NYS.

Rossi is a solid goalkeeper and a decent three-point shooter in hoops.
He is an outstanding baseball player.
But there's no way Rossi can be in the same conversation as a McCloud.

[BATHFAN]

McCloud is definitely the best three-sport athlete at his school. In fact, I don't think it's even close.
He is one of the top running backs and kick-off and punt returners in all of Section 5 as well as a solid defensive back. If you take him off that roster, Bath football is average at best, and certainly not very exciting. McCloud was probably the most explosive player in Section 5 small schools a year ago, and that's including Zapata.
He's an average basketball player at best. But his numbers weren't bad and his defense was solid.
In the spring, he's the top sprinter and jumper in Section 5, and one of the best in NYS.

Rossi is a solid goalkeeper and a decent three-point shooter in hoops.
He is an outstanding baseball player.
But there's no way Rossi can be in the same conversation as a McCloud.
I mostly agree with your statements other than the Bath football team being average w/o him. I agree they are better with him on the field, but they are very deep, and I think alot of people will be very surprised by how good Cody Hutchinson is in the backfield this year. I think it was Gene Mastin after the season last year that said that Hutchinson is probably the second best back in the league this coming year. McCloud and Hutchinson will be a very potent 1-2 punch and the Nesbitt kid who will back them up would probably start on almost any other team in the league this coming year.

[x4Ballard21x]

ok im form Dundee and i voted for McCloud. Watching Brent Ayers was awesome aspecially having him as a team mate for football and basketball. But just from watching McCloud in track....awesome. The kid is a machine. Placing in states for 4 events just goes to show what an athlete he is. I will tell you this watch out for Steven Webb next year as some solid competition for Dre' as athlete of the year.

[rockandroll34]

I mostly agree with your statements other than the Bath football team being average w/o him. I agree they are better with him on the field, but they are very deep, and I think alot of people will be very surprised by how good Cody Hutchinson is in the backfield this year. I think it was Gene Mastin after the season last year that said that Hutchinson is probably the second best back in the league this coming year. McCloud and Hutchinson will be a very potent 1-2 punch and the Nesbitt kid who will back them up would probably start on almost any other team in the league this coming year.

Hutcheson is a decent back but, come on, Mastin must have blinders on if he made that statement.
He must've meant McCloud was No. 1 then and Zapata No. 3 because you can't put Hutcheson ahead of McCloud in any football poll.
If Mastin actually said that, they should get him to a doctor!

[BATHFAN]

Hutcheson is a decent back but, come on, Mastin must have blinders on if he made that statement.
He must've meant McCloud was No. 1 then and Zapata No. 3 because you can't put Hutcheson ahead of McCloud in any football poll.
If Mastin actually said that, they should get him to a doctor!

No, he was talking about the upcoming season, which would put McCloud as #1 and Hutcheson as #2 in the league.

[rockandroll34]

Hutcheson's a decent running back but he's not the second best back in Livingston County.

[bath#1]

Hutcheson's a decent running back but he's not the second best back in Livingston County.

Yeah he will be the second best back and im saying third being St.gorge from way-co, he is going to be very good.

[87bulldog]

B-R'S Kam Konert.
Konert rushed for 1,356 yards on 169 attempts and 16 touchdowns, while completing 31 of 69 passes for 643 yards and five more touchdowns. On defense, Konert recorded 46 tackles.
Like his older brother, Konert holds or shares many Wolverine football records, compiling 2,643 career rushing yards, 224 career points and 37 career touchdowns.
His individual athletic honors include being named a 2007 NYS 1st-team All-State DB; 2007 NYSHSFCA Class D Scholar-Athlete of the Year; 2008 National Football Foundation & College Hall of Fame Scholar-Athlete & Top Male Scholarship Winner; 2007 NYS Section V, Class D Offensive Player of the Year; 2007 Big 30 Player of the Year; 2007 Section V Championship Game MVP; 2007 NYSPHSAA Semi-Finals Offensive MVP; 2-time Big 30 All-Star QB; four-time Section V Class D offensive player of the week; 2-time conference all-star (offense and defense); 2007 All-Greater Rochester 2nd-team All-Star QB; 2006 Livingston County Super 24 Team; 2-time team MVP. In baseball — 2008 & 2007 Big 30 All-Star & 2008 Player of the Year; 3-time All-Conference & All-league 1st-team; tourney MVP; Team MVP.
Konert’s academic honors include 2008 NYS Scholar All-State Football team; Kodak Young Leaders Award, Air Force Mathematics & Science Excellence Award; NYS finalist for Wendy’s High School Heisman; President’s Education Award; USSA All-American Scholar Award; 3-time Principal’s Scholar Award and has been on the High Honor Roll every year; 3-time Scholar-Athlete Team Award; National Honor Society.

Thats just football. He also went 6-0 as a pitcher in helping B-R to a sectional title!!

[bcherry8]

B-R'S Kam Konert.
Konert rushed for 1,356 yards on 169 attempts and 16 touchdowns, while completing 31 of 69 passes for 643 yards and five more touchdowns. On defense, Konert recorded 46 tackles.
Like his older brother, Konert holds or shares many Wolverine football records, compiling 2,643 career rushing yards, 224 career points and 37 career touchdowns.
His individual athletic honors include being named a 2007 NYS 1st-team All-State DB; 2007 NYSHSFCA Class D Scholar-Athlete of the Year; 2008 National Football Foundation & College Hall of Fame Scholar-Athlete & Top Male Scholarship Winner; 2007 NYS Section V, Class D Offensive Player of the Year; 2007 Big 30 Player of the Year; 2007 Section V Championship Game MVP; 2007 NYSPHSAA Semi-Finals Offensive MVP; 2-time Big 30 All-Star QB; four-time Section V Class D offensive player of the week; 2-time conference all-star (offense and defense); 2007 All-Greater Rochester 2nd-team All-Star QB; 2006 Livingston County Super 24 Team; 2-time team MVP. In baseball — 2008 & 2007 Big 30 All-Star & 2008 Player of the Year; 3-time All-Conference & All-league 1st-team; tourney MVP; Team MVP.
Konert’s academic honors include 2008 NYS Scholar All-State Football team; Kodak Young Leaders Award, Air Force Mathematics & Science Excellence Award; NYS finalist for Wendy’s High School Heisman; President’s Education Award; USSA All-American Scholar Award; 3-time Principal’s Scholar Award and has been on the High Honor Roll every year; 3-time Scholar-Athlete Team Award; National Honor Society.

Thats just football. He also went 6-0 as a pitcher in helping B-R to a sectional title!!
Outstanding credentials, even though academics really wouldnt count. But wow, it seems like BR is successful on the football field and the diamond (for both boys and girls)every year.

[boobiemiles]

Outstanding credentials, even though academics really wouldnt count. But wow, it seems like BR is successful on the football field and the diamond (for both boys and girls)every year.
they have a girls football team?

[thehairyharrier]

How is Pat Dupont not on this list!?

3rd at FLNE, 17th at FLN, Section V champ, Monroe County Champ, AA state champ, and NY state Federation champ in XC

Section V Champ in 3200, Monroe County 1600m/3200m/3000m steeple/4x800m county champ(incredible quadruple), and State champ in the 3000m steeple and 3200m at states four outdoor track.

[87bulldog]

Outstanding credentials, even though academics really wouldnt count. But wow, it seems like BR is successful on the football field and the diamond (for both boys and girls)every year.

KAM Konert and his brother(KIRK) together hold 18 school football records. He was the southern tiers big 30 (ny&PA schools) player of the year in football & baseball.The starting QB in the EDDIE MEATH game & will be in the big 30 game.Anyone that has seen him play knows that he is a heck of a player.

[thehairyharrier]

Seriously...no Pat Dupont?

The best distance runner in NY state doesn't even get a mention in Section V athlete of the year?

[boobiemiles]

basically track athletes are eliminated from this list because they aren't diversified enough... that's why the best track athlete thread was made.... it's not that he's not a great athlete, it's just cuz he's not active in more than running

[yo la marc]

the player of the year is hands down jon schwind. player of the year in two sports and first team all county for the other. and on his way to play division one baseball.

[thehairyharrier]

O, and sorry for the double post. I didn't know the messages had to be checked before psoted and thought maybe the first one didn't get posted. My bad.

[Snowboarder32]

basically track athletes are eliminated from this list because they aren't diversified enough... that's why the best track athlete thread was made.... it's not that he's not a great athlete, it's just cuz he's not active in more than running

i still don't agree with that...


but whatever theres no point arguing something everyone will shoot down

[DrewVT6]

basically track athletes are eliminated from this list because they aren't diversified enough... that's why the best track athlete thread was made.... it's not that he's not a great athlete, it's just cuz he's not active in more than running

How fair would it be if a soccer player won athlete of the year for playing soccer, indoor soccer and spring soccer? Sorry, but that's not an all around best athlete. Jon Schwind on the other hand plays 3 skill sports: soccer, hockey and baseball. Connor Henderson did the same by playing a 'skill' position in football (QB), basketball and lacrosse.

[boobiemiles]

How fair would it be if a soccer player won athlete of the year for playing soccer, indoor soccer and spring soccer? Sorry, but that's not an all around best athlete. Jon Schwind on the other hand plays 3 skill sports: soccer, hockey and baseball. Connor Henderson did the same by playing a 'skill' position in football (QB), basketball and lacrosse.
are you asking me that question?

[DrewVT6]

are you asking me that question?

no....just playing off of what you said.

[trojan03]

was this list updated..
cuz I still don't think there's a GR

and antonucci would prob be the best candidate

[boobiemiles]

no it wasn't updated yet. drew's working on a new list

[trojan03]

but correct me if I'm wrong or if someone has another candidate but antonucci pretty much single handedly dominated the gr .. if you have a candidate ... imagine a fight between the 2 and see if you still wanna nominate him lol

and no .. it's not fun to wrestle nuch..

[bcherry8]

but correct me if I'm wrong or if someone has another candidate but antonucci pretty much single handedly dominated the gr .. if you have a candidate ... imagine a fight between the 2 and see if you still wanna nominate him lol

and no .. it's not fun to wrestle nuch..
This may be a little off topic but in the next two years, if we made a Talksback Athlete of the Year thread for the GR, AJ Kehlenbeck would probably win handily.