Sectional/county

[cornellalum]

how do you think the teams in stueben county will do in sectionals and counties

[bath#1]

how do you think the teams in stueben county will do in sectionals and counties

Even with the losses of Baroody and Clarkson I think hport is going to be pretty good. I dont see them winning counties or sectionals but they'll be up in the top 3 or 4 teams.

[cornellalum]

the future was looking bright for hammondsport with the development of Devante Staton would have probaly been the best team since the Parke, Zimar, Mishrell era. But as the rumor states he is going to bath to play football does any one know if this is true

[DSport]

how do you think the teams in stueben county will do in sectionals and counties

I would bet any amount of money that one of the SCL teams will win counties. lol

[cornellalum]

I would bet any amount of money that one of the SCL teams will win counties. lol no i mean who do you predict to win counties and such

[DSport]

no i mean who do you predict to win counties and such
I know.
I would say Prattsburgh for the counties. We'll see. It should be an interesting year. If J-T gets some guard play they will be tough because Thurber will be the best returning big guy this year.

[The1andONLY51]

Devante is going to bath, sorry H-port, maybe next year. Prattsburgh's lack of a big man will hurt them sooner or later. JT has Thurber, that's nice, no one on his team will be able to get him the ball so he better learn to be point guard real quick. Matula's desicion making and Overhiser/Smalt's production will ultimately decide what Campbell does. Both need work from last year (4.7 points a game combined for Smalt and Overhiser), but they did win the team camp at Bonnies, so maybe he has got that under control. Addison has Bowers and thats it. All that said, Prattsburgh-CS final once again, and those two teams the only ones doing anything in sectionals.

[bath#1]

the future was looking bright for hammondsport with the development of Devante Staton would have probaly been the best team since the Parke, Zimar, Mishrell era. But as the rumor states he is going to bath to play football does any one know if this is true

Yep Devonte is coming to bath. Even without Devonte, Hport should be really good. Duncan can take Clarkson's spot. Ryan House, Justin Shuck, Ricci Wendledt, Brian Stachnik, aND Brandon Bulley are all returning.

Should be a great year for hport

[bath#1]

Devante is going to bath, sorry H-port, maybe next year. Prattsburgh's lack of a big man will hurt them sooner or later. JT has Thurber, that's nice, no one on his team will be able to get him the ball so he better learn to be point guard real quick. Matula's desicion making will ultimately decide what Campbell does...needs work from last year, but they did win the team camp at Bonnies, so maybe he has got that under control. Addison has Bowers and thats it. All that said, Prattsburgh-CS final once again, and those two teams the only ones doing anything in sectionals.

I think prattsburgh's gonna drop off, losing Fuller, Dougie Lewis and Marshall Stanley is gonna hurt them

[UNCTarheels]

I think prattsburgh's gonna drop off, losing Fuller, Dougie Lewis and Marshall Stanley is gonna hurt them

Devante Staton has left Hammondsport and will supposedly play Wide Receiver for Bath this year & then take over at Running Back for Andre McCloud when he walks across the stage to receive his diploma. Although right now that's just speculation.

As far as Prattsburgh Dropping off because of the Graduation of Fuller, Dougie Lewis & Marshell Stanley, I don't know about that Buddy. Now I'm not saying those losses don't hurt, I'd be telling a tall tale If I said that however at Prattsburgh you don't "Rebuild u Reload" and they're going to be just as good if not better than last years squad. ENOUGH SAID

Hammondsport is going to be Good, I was impressed with them the other night and they were missing several key players. Schuck & House will be a potent Backcourt, decision making skills will come into play with those two, Also House seems to have a Chip on his shoulder & May have an attitude problem i guess it depends on who you talk to. The Role Players and Bench will decide their Destiny next year but i see them as probably the 3rd or 4th best team after Prattsburgh, Campbell-Savona & Arkport.

Arkport is going to be loaded, with Senior Guard Max Houy, Senior Forward Shawn Kerr & The Junior Guard Trio of Nick Smith, Greg Talbot & Mike Gee, along with several key player off the Undefeated J.V Squad, They'll be in the hunt for sure.

Agree with oneandonly51 Campbell-Savona is going to go as far as Matula, Sutton, Overhiser & Smalt take them, those are the 4 guys who must produce and hope that the Role Players step up and one-or-Two of them emerges as a Key guy before Sectionals

[bath#1]

Devante Staton has left Hammondsport and will supposedly play Wide Receiver for Bath this year & then take over at Running Back for Andre McCloud when he walks across the stage to receive his diploma. Although right now that's just speculation.

As far as Prattsburgh Dropping off because of the Graduation of Fuller, Dougie Lewis & Marshell Stanley, I don't know about that Buddy. Now I'm not saying those losses don't hurt, I'd be telling a tall tale If I said that however at Prattsburgh you don't "Rebuild u Reload" and they're going to be just as good if not better than last years squad. ENOUGH SAID

Hammondsport is going to be Good, I was impressed with them the other night and they were missing several key players. Schuck & House will be a potent Backcourt, decision making skills will come into play with those two, Also House seems to have a Chip on his shoulder & May have an attitude problem i guess it depends on who you talk to. The Role Players and Bench will decide their Destiny next year but i see them as probably the 3rd or 4th best team after Prattsburgh, Campbell-Savona & Arkport.

Arkport is going to be loaded, with Senior Guard Max Houy, Senior Forward Shawn Kerr & The Junior Guard Trio of Nick Smith, Greg Talbot & Mike Gee, along with several key player off the Undefeated J.V Squad, They'll be in the hunt for sure.

Agree with oneandonly51 Campbell-Savona is going to go as far as Matula, Sutton, Overhiser & Smalt take them, those are the 4 guys who must produce and hope that the Role Players step up and one-or-Two of them emerges as a Key guy before Sectionals

I think pburg is gonna be a 2 or 3 seed, I mean they lost Fuller who was there signal caller for four years and there two biggest guys.

Yes, House does have a chip in his shoulder and an attitude problem. His dad who was a star in his day at Hport is on Ryans butt a lot and pushes him every game and every practice.

[cornellalum]

i do not think that arkports max huey is that good i mean in the 4 games i watched he had a total of maybe 10 points i guess he is a good ballhandler and will run the offense thats about it

[UNCTarheels]

I think pburg is gonna be a 2 or 3 seed, I mean they lost Fuller who was there signal caller for four years and there two biggest guys.

Yes, House does have a chip in his shoulder and an attitude problem. His dad who was a star in his day at Hport is on Ryans butt a lot and pushes him every game and every practice.

cornellalum i do not think that arkports max huey is that good i mean in the 4 games i watched he had a total of maybe 10 points i guess he is a good ballhandler and will run the offense thats about it

I hope people think Prattsburgh is down, that's good!

Sure Fuller Graduated & So did the Bigs, but they're returning a lot and Patrick Wightman battled Fuller everyday in Practice for nearly 5 months, that's going to help anybody. They return Wightman,Parker & Caron, Caron & Parker are returning starters and Wightman was the 6th man. Remember two years ago when Prattsburgh graduated 6'7" Patrick Wright, 6'6" Eli Applebaum & Rodman like Rebounder Jake Socola? everyone wanted to know what Prattsburgh was going to do,well they put in seldom used Dougie Lewis & Marshell Stanley and they both had excellent Senior years, so now it's the same situation with Fuller.

not to mention they're loaded Wightman, Caron & Parker are all county type players, Seniors Dylon Dibble & Brandon Smith are solid role players along with Scrappy Junior Elijiah Hicks, Seniors Zach Burke & Nick Digati along with junior Newcomers Tim Baird, Steve Barkalow & Dalton Drake, Prattsburgh is going to surprise a lot of people except me, I know What they have.

Max Houy is not a scorer but he's a bonified Point Guard and will distribute the Rock all year, don't sleep on Arkport they have an abundance of Talent.

[bath#1]

I hope people think Prattsburgh is down, that's good!

Sure Fuller Graduated & So did the Bigs, but they're returning a lot and Patrick Wightman battled Fuller everyday in Practice for nearly 5 months, that's going to help anybody. They return Wightman,Parker & Caron, Caron & Parker are returning starters and Wightman was the 6th man. Remember two years ago when Prattsburgh graduated 6'7" Patrick Wright, 6'6" Eli Applebaum & Rodman like Rebounder Jake Socola? everyone wanted to know what Prattsburgh was going to do,well they put in seldom used Dougie Lewis & Marshell Stanley and they both had excellent Senior years, so now it's the same situation with Fuller.

not to mention they're loaded Wightman, Caron & Parker are all county type players, Seniors Dylon Dibble & Brandon Smith are solid role players along with Scrappy Junior Elijiah Hicks, Seniors Zach Burke & Nick Digati along with junior Newcomers Tim Baird, Steve Barkalow & Dalton Drake, Prattsburgh is going to surprise a lot of people except me, I know What they have.

Max Houy is not a scorer but he's a bonified Point Guard and will distribute the Rock all year, don't sleep on Arkport they have an abundance of Talent.

Guess we'll see. I mean yeah pburg will be there fighting for #1 at counties along with cbell and hport.

[2Year10]

well atleast we know that campell, h-port, p-burgh and arkport are going to be the competative teams in are county. we will see the outcomes during the season.

[The1andONLY51]

Max didn't score becasue he had a shoulder injury and ended up having surgery

[cornellalum]

Max didn't score becasue he had a shoulder injury and ended up having surgery

the whole season and ended up playing baseball hmm

[cbellfan15]

Thats why he didnt play aalot in basketball..he's more of a baseball guy

[CAL12]

C-G lost a ton last year with the loss of Brandon Wallace, and Bryce and Brett Ryan. But they do return Zach Peters, arguably one of the fastest point guards in the league and can handle the ball very well. Brett Marlatt, a good shooter and very good rebounder for his size. John McKibben, 6-2 230 and gave a lot of strong minutes last year. Bryce Davis, a very good spot up shooter who is capable of knocking down a lot of threes this year. All of these guys competed against a very strong backcourt last year. They have played a lot of basketball in the offseason, but have not had everybody together on many occasions. When they are together, C-G will compete with any Steuben county team. Here are my league stadings heading into Counties:
1. P'burg (Burke and his staff will find a way- solid guard play)
2. Arkport (depends on coaching and how these guys respond to a laid back approach--these players are self motivated and work together very well)
3. C-S (they could waiver from 3rd-6th depending on how they respond to midseason struggles or controversies)
4. C-G (Decision making on the court from Peters will decide how they do)
5. Hammondsport (Can youthful guards compete at a high level every night?)
6. J-T (How do they handle pressure def? Can Thurber get entry passes?)
7. Addison (Bowers will hurt a lot of teams, but supporting cast is weak-- poor shooting)
8. Alfred Almond (Aaron Rygeil plays and they win twice as many games. Coach Hoyt does a nice job)
9. Bradford (will surprise some teams with intensity and work ethic)
10. Avoca (very young, but will work hard)

[cornellalum]

Hammondsport (Can youthful guards compete at a high level every night?)

youthful Hammonsport Returns there 2 SENIOR starting Guards ( Wendlandt and Stachnik)

[CAL12]

I was unaware. Where does House fit in with two other senior guards? I also wonder about Hammondsports size, Bulley plays big but who else do they have?

[cornellalum]

Hammondsport as of right know has 4 guards who can play at any time on the court and have experince except probaly schuck who although has played great in summer league but as for big men hammondsport will be weak returning 6'2 Will Duncan and JV's 6'2 Brandon Allen

[DSport]

C-G lost a ton last year with the loss of Brandon Wallace, and Bryce and Brett Ryan. But they do return Zach Peters, arguably one of the fastest point guards in the league and can handle the ball very well. Brett Marlatt, a good shooter and very good rebounder for his size. John McKibben, 6-2 230 and gave a lot of strong minutes last year. Bryce Davis, a very good spot up shooter who is capable of knocking down a lot of threes this year. All of these guys competed against a very strong backcourt last year. They have played a lot of basketball in the offseason, but have not had everybody together on many occasions. When they are together, C-G will compete with any Steuben county team. Here are my league stadings heading into Counties:
1. P'burg (Burke and his staff will find a way- solid guard play)
2. Arkport (depends on coaching and how these guys respond to a laid back approach--these players are self motivated and work together very well)
3. C-S (they could waiver from 3rd-6th depending on how they respond to midseason struggles or controversies)
4. C-G (Decision making on the court from Peters will decide how they do)
5. Hammondsport (Can youthful guards compete at a high level every night?)
6. J-T (How do they handle pressure def? Can Thurber get entry passes?)
7. Addison (Bowers will hurt a lot of teams, but supporting cast is weak-- poor shooting)
8. Alfred Almond (Aaron Rygeil plays and they win twice as many games. Coach Hoyt does a nice job)
9. Bradford (will surprise some teams with intensity and work ethic)
10. Avoca (very young, but will work hard)

Pretty good rankings. My personal thought is C-S 2nd and Arkport 3rd. And maybe switch H-Port 4th. it's a toss up between C-G and J-T for 5th. A-A may end up 10th instead of 8th but we'll see.

[UNCTarheels]

C-G lost a ton last year with the loss of Brandon Wallace, and Bryce and Brett Ryan. But they do return Zach Peters, arguably one of the fastest point guards in the league and can handle the ball very well. Brett Marlatt, a good shooter and very good rebounder for his size. John McKibben, 6-2 230 and gave a lot of strong minutes last year. Bryce Davis, a very good spot up shooter who is capable of knocking down a lot of threes this year. All of these guys competed against a very strong backcourt last year. They have played a lot of basketball in the offseason, but have not had everybody together on many occasions. When they are together, C-G will compete with any Steuben county team. Here are my league stadings heading into Counties:
1. P'burg (Burke and his staff will find a way- solid guard play)
2. Arkport (depends on coaching and how these guys respond to a laid back approach--these players are self motivated and work together very well)
3. C-S (they could waiver from 3rd-6th depending on how they respond to midseason struggles or controversies)
4. C-G (Decision making on the court from Peters will decide how they do)
5. Hammondsport (Can youthful guards compete at a high level every night?)
6. J-T (How do they handle pressure def? Can Thurber get entry passes?)
7. Addison (Bowers will hurt a lot of teams, but supporting cast is weak-- poor shooting)
8. Alfred Almond (Aaron Rygeil plays and they win twice as many games. Coach Hoyt does a nice job)
9. Bradford (will surprise some teams with intensity and work ethic)
10. Avoca (very young, but will work hard)

I'd have to rank Bradford higher than you have them, they might go as high as #6 depending on how hard they work in the off season, which they're not in the Summer League and I haven't seen them in any 3-on-3 tournaments unless they played in The Hoops For Hospice Tournament. They return 10 players from last years squad and bring up one Impressive Big Man from J.V's named Andy Robertson, he's a Shot Blocker and Rebounder but needs to improve on the Offensive end, either way Bradford isn't going to be a "Cellar Dwellar" this season. They're going to be decent and may be able to beat the Likes of Avoca, Addison, Alfred-Almond & J-T and may be able to upset some others if they're not careful, two seasons ago this same group of players for Bradford upset a few teams on the J.V Level including Campbell-Savona, so this could be a dangerous group of kids if they play to their potential.

[bath#1]

I was unaware. Where does House fit in with two other senior guards? I also wonder about Hammondsports size, Bulley plays big but who else do they have?

Yeah they dont have a lot of size. They do have Ricci Wendledt back and he's about 5'11'' and is a good penetrator

[2Year10]

H-port has a lot more size then most people think. THey might not be strong and solid but they have some height. 6'2 Will Duncan, 6'2 Brandon Allen, 6'3 Peter Woods, 6'1 Brandon Bulley, 6,0 Brian Stachnic and 6'0 Ryan Clark.

1. Prattsburgh Always competes at a hard level and not much teams can play at there level and there coaching and returning players help a lot. they have a deep line up. I also think Wightman could definatel fill the guard spot.
2. 3. (H-port)( C-S) Both have good size probably the two teams in stueben county with a tall line up. Both have good Guards and speed. Basically really similar type line ups. Campbell only beat h-port by 1 in summer league (Campbell with a full team and h-port with 3 missing).
4. Arkport good returning players and a really good jv
5. Addison works better as a team then most people think and bowers will definately hurt people, they may not shoot well which will hurt them against the better teams but they hustle.
6. J-T returning thurber- obviously one of the best or the best post player in stueben county and some good JV players coming up. Will they be able to pass the ball inside.
7. C-G okay at the guard positions and can get the job done if they try and hustle. Very week in the post area and also afraid to drive to the whole. they do not hustle back on defense and unable to gert fast break opportunities.
8. Avoca Not able to finish a game but hustle and have good guards but are a bit slowin the post. Also unable to get fastbreak opportunities and get back in transition. Does not work as a team well.
9. Bradford did not show anything last year but return a lot of players from last year and they have a good chance for upsets.
10. Alfred Almond needs more then one year to develope. One new teamate will not make a big difference.

[CAL12]

"H-port has a lot more size then most people think. THey might not be strong and solid but they have some height. 6'2 Will Duncan, 6'2 Brandon Allen, 6'3 Peter Woods, 6'1 Brandon Bulley, 6,0 Brian Stachnic and 6'0 Ryan Clark.

1. Prattsburgh Always competes at a hard level and not much teams can play at there level and there coaching and returning players help a lot. they have a deep line up. I also think Wightman could definatel fill the guard spot.
2. 3. (H-port)( C-S) Both have good size probably the two teams in stueben county with a tall line up. Both have good Guards and speed. Basically really similar type line ups. Campbell only beat h-port by 1 in summer league (Campbell with a full team and h-port with 3 missing).
4. Arkport good returning players and a really good jv
5. Addison works better as a team then most people think and bowers will definately hurt people, they may not shoot well which will hurt them against the better teams but they hustle.
6. J-T returning thurber- obviously one of the best or the best post player in stueben county and some good JV players coming up. Will they be able to pass the ball inside.
7. C-G okay at the guard positions and can get the job done if they try and hustle. Very week in the post area and also afraid to drive to the whole. they do not hustle back on defense and unable to gert fast break opportunities.
8. Avoca Not able to finish a game but hustle and have good guards but are a bit slowin the post. Also unable to get fastbreak opportunities and get back in transition. Does not work as a team well.
9. Bradford did not show anything last year but return a lot of players from last year and they have a good chance for upsets.
10. Alfred Almond needs more then one year to develope. One new teamate will not make a big difference."




I agree with many of your points, but I think people are judging to much on summer ball. Hammondsport is playing well this summer, but need to prove themselves again this year before they make a believer out of me. C-G has never been lazy on defense during the season, and I assume Coach Button will get them on the right track. Alfred Almond may actually have another decent ball player in Justin Cornell to go along with Bayus and Rygiel. They also have Daniel Fugate (6'3") to help inside. They will surprise a few teams.

[cornellalum]

Daniel Fugate is not going to be a post presence at all

[cornellalum]

rumor has it that Brandon Bulley is now going to go to Prattsburgh.

[UNCTarheels]

rumor has it that Brandon Bulley is now going to go to Prattsburgh.


Now I know that if it's true his parents would have to be living in the Prattsburgh school district in order for him to play this year, if not he'd have to sit out a year.

[bath#1]

Now I know that if it's true his parents would have to be living in the Prattsburgh school district in order for him to play this year, if not he'd have to sit out a year.

I think his mom lives in hport and his dad lives in pburg

[UNCTarheels]

I think his mom lives in hport and his dad lives in pburg

well if that's true then he'll be all set and won't have to sit out a year.

Any idea what the reasoning behind it is? is it personal? or is it for sports?

[DSport]

I've chatted to him before about it but I haven't seen him recently. He stated that he wasn't sure what he wanted to do. He realizes that Prattsburgh is loaded and he wouldn't get as much playing time as he would at H'port but I think he wants the coaching to improve his game. I guess we'll have to wait and see what he says about this because for now it's just a rumor.

[2Year10]

I use to live in pulteney with my grandma but she moved to South Carolina for the year and that was the only way i would be able to stay in hammondsport. thought about driving to h-port everyday but the gas prices are too high. I moved with my mother on pratt street in prattsburgh so this is the reason i am going to prattsburgh. im not moving for a better team or better coaching because the team and coaching i had was just fine. Hammondsport is still just as good because they have a lot of good players.

Brandon Bulley

[bath#1]

I guess we figured it out now haha ^

[cornellalum]

i think this will make prattsburgh the front runner for the county and D Big loss for Hammondsport they are most likely a 4 or 5 team now

[DSport]

i think this will make prattsburgh the front runner for the county and D Big loss for Hammondsport they are most likely a 4 or 5 team now

I think Prattsburgh was the frontrunner before. This certainly adds to their depth though. I agree that this is a pretty big blow to Hammondsport. They still have several good players though and are young so they'll still be good.

[btwine2001]

I use to live in pulteney with my grandma but she moved to South Carolina for the year and that was the only way i would be able to stay in hammondsport. thought about driving to h-port everyday but the gas prices are too high. I moved with my mother on pratt street in prattsburgh so this is the reason i am going to prattsburgh. im not moving for a better team or better coaching because the team and coaching i had was just fine. Hammondsport is still just as good because they have a lot of good players.

Brandon Bulley

Welcome aboard Brandon, you'll be a great addition to the Vikes.

[cornellalum]

now probaly a little early but who will be prattsburghs starting 5

[OhioStateBuck]

My guess-

Pat Whiteman
Ryan Caron
Zach Burke
Garrett Parker
Smith/Dibble/Bulley

[DSport]

My guess-

Pat Whiteman
Ryan Caron
Zach Burke
Garrett Parker
Smith/Dibble/Bulley

Pretty good guessing there. I think Parker, Whiteman and Caron are locks but we might see some switching up from the other two slots. Burke is a great tactition and may start players that match up best with the team he's playing. He switced the starters around a little throughout last year and I could see that happening again.
I think Bulley, Baird, and Dibble all have the potential to become great players and improve a lot.
I would like to see Zach Burke be a little more aggresive. He has some good skill and could become an X factor.

[overdrive09]

i'm guessing the starter will be either bulley or smith

[DSport]

well since dibble is down right terrible i'm guessing the starter will be either bulley or smith

I don't think Dibble is terrible. He didn't get a lot of PT last year because there were better big men in front of him but this could be his year to shine. I'll agree that both Smith and Bulley are more agile and better ball handlers but Dibble might be the better rebounder out of the three.

[coachstew]

I'm reading in another thread where several people predicted Bulley to be one of the top five players in the league, prior to transferring. If that is true I would think he would start for P'Burg wouldn't he?

i'm guessing the starter will be either bulley or smith

[UNCTarheels]

I'm reading in another thread where several people predicted Bulley to be one of the top five players in the league, prior to transferring. If that is true I would think he would start for P'Burg wouldn't he?

He's going to have to earn it, he's not at a place where he can step in based on what he's done elsewhere. He's gonna have to earn his spot, if he can adjust to the new system he should be able to start but it's not a given.

[OhioStateBuck]

He's going to have to earn it, he's not at a place where he can step in based on what he's done elsewhere. He's gonna have to earn his spot, if he can adjust to the new system he should be able to start but it's not a given.

I agree, although I expect him to be starting 4 or 5 games into the season. Its also likely that Coach Burke will be switching the line-up from game to game, to fit the plan for different teams like he did last year.