Irondequoit Field Hockey

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Seems that no one here really cares to discuss field hockey, but I will keep trying, anyway...

Congrats to Irondequoit field hockey for their 4-0 win over Penfield today - their first win over Penfield ever!

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Maybe we can talk to ourselves until interest gets going in this sport. Interesting year so far, ER as usual is on top, but had some close calls this year. Thomas is having another good year but hopefully Sutherland, Irondequoit, and Penfield can make it interesting. Do you or anybody else know if Fairport has used the same goalie all season - her stats look like she's having a great year. Hope the ER v Irondequiot game in October is a good one.

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The first time ER and Irondequoit played this year it was 5-0. I don't know if it's going to be much closer this time... but I'll give Irondequoit the benefit of the doubt and say it's going to be ER 4, Irondequoit 1.

Did you hear about sectionals this year being split? That really sucks. I would guess that if it was done the way it's normally done, it would end up being ER vs. Thomas at the end, and that could have been an interesting game. I don't see any other match ups being as exciting, unfortunately. My predictions here are ER vs Sutherland for class B/C, with ER winning, and Thomas vs. Irondequoit for A, with Thomas winning. I don't see any upsets this year. What do you think?

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I could be wrong, but this "new" configuration is more like the other sports, but you are right it will loose a lot of the interest. I split my time between watching ER, Thomas and Sutherland this year. And another showing of ER v Thomas would be interesting. ER has had some scares this year, but those girls know how to win. But what is great about this level of sport, ya wonder who is showing up to play. I'd like to see Thomas go all the way just because they have been improving for the past 6 or so years I've watched.

Any idea how many seniors on ER and Thomas?

[er#1fan]

er has 5 seniors 3 or 4 that start depending always 3 sometimes 4
i would agree with the sectional picks except id take irondequoit over thomas thats just me though

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I could be wrong, but this "new" configuration is more like the other sports, but you are right it will loose a lot of the interest.

You're right, it is more like other sports this way - but it's always been one final game at the end because there are not really enough teams to split it up by class. This year, there are 3 B teams, 1 C team, and I think 8 A teams. I guess it kind of makes sense for "A" to have a final game, but to have only 4 smaller schools to compete for the B/C title every year is ridiculous.

We all know why the split happened - but it is just silly, IMO. Every year they have been able to "crown" a champion in each of those classes to send on to regionals, anyway - it's going to be no different now, really, except that there will be 2 "official" champions. 2 champions when there are only 12 schools in Section V that have FH in the first place. For B/C, the second you set foot on the field in August, you've got a 25% chance of winning the title, and a 50% chance of playing in the final game. (And a 100% chance of playing in the semi-finals). I'm guessing there is not a single other sport out there with those kinds of odds...

[er#1fan]

once again i would agree having sectionals split for field hockey is pointless. if you cant be the other teams in your league why should you split it so that the a's can have a champion and the b's and c's still play together. isnt the point of sectionals that the two best teams play in the finals? i mean i get it no ones beaten east rochester in like 5 years but is this really the way to go or is it simply a cop out for bigger schools who are tired of losing every year?

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You need to review those stats, but I agree with the point you're making. One Champion means more, we just need to get more schools involved.

Just as a quick note Thomas beat Eastridge 1-0. Disappointing game the Thomas ladies didn't show up to play until the second half. May one of the quickest teams was caught waiting for the ball come to them. Both goalies played well. I think the Thomas goalie may have won the game for them.

You're right, it is more like other sports this way - but it's always been one final game at the end because there are not really enough teams to split it up by class. This year, there are 3 B teams, 1 C team, and I think 8 A teams. I guess it kind of makes sense for "A" to have a final game, but to have only 4 smaller schools to compete for the B/C title every year is ridiculous.

We all know why the split happened - but it is just silly, IMO. Every year they have been able to "crown" a champion in each of those classes to send on to regionals, anyway - it's going to be no different now, really, except that there will be 2 "official" champions. 2 champions when there are only 12 schools in Section V that have FH in the first place. For B/C, the second you set foot on the field in August, you've got a 25% chance of winning the title, and a 50% chance of playing in the final game. (And a 100% chance of playing in the semi-finals). I'm guessing there is not a single other sport out there with those kinds of odds...

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You need to review those stats, but I agree with the point you're making. One Champion means more, we just need to get more schools involved.

Just as a quick note Thomas beat Eastridge 1-0. Disappointing game the Thomas ladies didn't show up to play until the second half. May one of the quickest teams was caught waiting for the ball come to them. Both goalies played well. I think the Thomas goalie may have won the game for them.

Not that it really matters, but what is wrong with my stats? For B/C... 4 teams... 1 in 4 (25%) will win the title... 2 in 4 (50%) will be playing in the final game... 4 out of 4 (100%) will be playing in the semi finals. Unless there are more than 4 teams in B/C, those are accurate.

I saw the score from Thomas/Eastridge - I bet that was a nice little wake up call for Thomas!

[er#1fan]

wow thomas only beat eastridge by 1 was it at mcavoy or at eastridge?

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No is was played on grass. The field was in good condition, Thomas didn't run.

[er#1fan]

must have been a hard game to watch then or atleast a boring one

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No East played hard and ran. Saw them play Sat. against Penfield, and wasn't the same team. Maybe the grass was high and the field soft, but no one ran. That was boring. ER v Webster Schoerder was good until ER had a three score flurry, then second string scored and deflated Webster. I left at half to see East/Penfield.

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No East played hard and ran. Saw them play Sat. against Penfield, and wasn't the same team. Maybe the grass was high and the field soft, but no one ran. That was boring. ER v Webster Schoerder was good until ER had a three score flurry, then second string scored and deflated Webster. I left at half to see East/Penfield.

The ER/Shroeder game was interesting only because the goal scored by Schroeder was on a stroke that should have never happened. Did you see that part? Other than that it was 100% one sided.

[er#1fan]

haha yeah you could say i saw that part. It was ridiculous and obsene for that to be called a stroke it was probably the most ridiculous save i will ever see a defender make and i watched it be nullified by a referee whos whole agenda at that point was just for webster to score. nothing against the girl i mean the stroke she took was amazing but it should have never happened.

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so the goal wasn't waved off, I guess I'm confused with the issue. Also, I left at half did ER still have second string in? Do they play there second string much? they are so dominant, I wonder sometimes they are not pilling on the score.

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well the dont have enough subs to completely take all of there good players out so there are a few like maybe 2 or 3 but usually one is left in the mid and the other 2 play defense. i mean they do a good job of getting everybody into the game its not like they try to run up the score they just have so many people who can score its hard to stop them whether it be first or second string. and they appealed the goal not because they got scored on but because of the way the referee handled it

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so the goal wasn't waved off, I guess I'm confused with the issue. Also, I left at half did ER still have second string in? Do they play there second string much? they are so dominant, I wonder sometimes they are not pilling on the score.

Usually when ER is up by 3 or 4 they are subbing in the 2nd string. But as er#1fan said, even their 2nd string scores pretty easily most of the time.

In an unrelated matter... I went to see a game between Gates Chili and Brighton today. So painful to watch. No disrespect to Gates, as they are only in their 2nd year of existence, and while they do have a lot they need to work on, it's just exciting to see a new team on the scene - but what the heck happened to Brighton?

[er#1fan]

ouch just curious why would you go to that game? what the the final score also? and i agree atleast gates has an excuse whats Brightons? well ill be at one of two games tomorrow er vs hilton or thomas vs irondequoit i mean obviously one will be more interesting then the other but regardless im taking irondequoit over thomas

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ouch just curious why would you go to that game? what the the final score also? and i agree atleast gates has an excuse whats Brightons? well ill be at one of two games tomorrow er vs hilton or thomas vs irondequoit i mean obviously one will be more interesting then the other but regardless im taking irondequoit over thomas

I'm picking Irondequoit over Thomas, too. And I went to the Brighton/Gates game because I was really hoping Gates would have their first win today. Unfortunately, it was Brighton, 3-0. The parents cheered like they had just taken down a powerhouse team - it was a little ridiculous.

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I'm picking Irondequoit over Thomas, too. And I went to the Brighton/Gates game because I was really hoping Gates would have their first win today. Unfortunately, it was Brighton, 3-0. The parents cheered like they had just taken down a powerhouse team - it was a little ridiculous.

Why is it ridiculous for parents to cheer? It may sound dump, but kids hear it and sometimes embrassed by it, but they are greatful somebody is there to cheer the minor victories.

Hey a million years ago when I played ball my dad saw me play 4 games in four years because they were on thanksgiving and he didn't work. I wished he was there for all of them and screamed his head off.

Why is it a mystery that a team has a down year or several? You would like to think that a winning program can get and keep kids interested, involved, and in the frame of mind to practice. ER is an exception what ever their doing their doing a good job. But the bottom line is kids are fickle, they will go out for a team just because their friend is or the coach is cool. Also, why does a good team loose to bad one? because they are kids and emotions run like crazy. It happens in the NFL when salaries are ..you know. Sometimes teams show up and sometimes they don't.

Example, my oldest (15 years ago) was one win from going to the PA State Championship match in wrestling, he finished third. Next year he wasn't there, the drive was gone, he worked out and did all the right things but his mind was on college or something else. He went on to the state's but he was finished before going to the semi's.

My hats off to the ER majic. Webster over Irondequiot

[er#1fan]

so weve got two for irondeqouit and 1 for webster i guess we will see 430 at mcavoy should be a good one

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Why is it ridiculous for parents to cheer? It may sound dump, but kids hear it and sometimes embrassed by it, but they are greatful somebody is there to cheer the minor victories

I don't mind when parents cheer. I DO mind when parents cheer to the point that it basically rubs in their children's [only] victory over a team that has never once won a game. I am not from Gates Chili, but the way some Section V teams treat them drives me insane. Brighton won over a start up team, they didn't win sectionals. I just thought the level of 'jubilation' was a little bit much.

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i agree with the being a limit to cheering to much i mean gates has never won a game but at the same time was that brightons first win of the season? i mean maybe they were cheering because they didnt know if they would have another reason to cheer this year.

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Irondequoit 1, Thomas 1

Irondequoit looked great in this game... they dominated far more than Thomas is willing to admit!

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Irondequoit 1, Thomas 1

Irondequoit looked great in this game... they dominated far more than Thomas is willing to admit!

I didn't think Thomas fans reported anything on this blog, but neither got it done. It must have been a good goalie game.

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I didn't think Thomas fans reported anything on this blog, but neither got it done. It must have been a good goalie game.

Both goalies had some great saves. Irondequoit had some fast breaks where they went 1 on 1 with the Thomas goalie and she came up big every time. There was a college scout there watching the goalies, and they both did very well!

Did anyone go to the ER game? Score?

[er#1fan]

i went to the er/hilton game 5-0 east rochester was 1 to 0 at half but was never really as close as that score would have shown. in the second half ers goals realized you have to shoot around the pads and not through them so hence the 4 goals as oppose to 1

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wish i could have been at the thomas game but i didnt figure it would end in a tie i mean i thought it would be close but not a tie. i still believe that will be the big school sectional final game and i still take irondequoit over thomas i like them better

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wish i could have been at the thomas game but i didnt figure it would end in a tie i mean i thought it would be close but not a tie. i still believe that will be the big school sectional final game and i still take irondequoit over thomas i like them better

I am going to agree with you. Based on what I saw today, if (or should I say when?) these two teams meet in Sectionals, I believe that Irondequoit will come out on top. They seemed pretty evenly matched for the most part, but Irondequoit had more shots on goal and the ball spent an awful lot of time in Thomas's defensive circle. Plus, that Megan L. (don't remember her last name) is really good - she has great ball handling skills and she can FLY down the field. Thomas is pretty evenly balanced but they don't seem to have that one huge threat.

Of course, it all is dependent on them both getting there, and who has the better night...

[er#1fan]

megan leusch and yeah shes good i would agree there that she is that teams standout. so irondequoit does have the threat but at the same time now thomas knows that so how they play her if and when they meet in sectionals could be completely different

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megan leusch and yeah shes good i would agree there that she is that teams standout. so irondequoit does have the threat but at the same time now thomas knows that so how they play her if and when they meet in sectionals could be completely different

Megan is a great player, is she still wondering all over the field and come back to earth with the attitude? She will go far. They have good team speed as well.

Unfortunately I didn't see the game, but by the sounds of it Thomas is still in a funk. Begining of the year and at ER they were very good. Hopefully both teams continue to do well so we can have a good game.

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i would agree they probably have the fastest team in the league and someone needs to tell thomas that its not how you start its how you finish cause it seems like they just have it set in their heads that it doesnt matter what they do they are just going to win sectionals
i mean 1 to 0 over eastride and a 1 to 1 tie with irondequoit that could have easily been a loss

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Thomas tied Penfield today, 1-1. Ouch. What happened to them? Cockiness or fatigue?

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Thomas tied Penfield today, 1-1. Ouch. What happened to them? Cockiness or fatigue?

No, Thomas dominated the game, the ball didn't get in the goal. First half Penfield has some good chances, but Thomas was better. With the exception one or two runs in the second half Penfield didn't do much. Their goalie kept them in the game. The second half score (the tying the score) was a fluke, no one was near the goal except Thomas, it passed the WT goalie wide and deflected off one of the Thomas kids. But I didn't think the was legal, but I barely know the rules. OT they both played well.

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If the ball deflects off the defender and goes into the cage, it's still a goal, and it's legal.

Interesting assessment of the game. Penfield hasn't done much all year, so regardless of Thomas "dominating" the game, one would think Thomas still could have won it, especially in OT. They barely beat Eastridge and they tied Irondequoit and now Penfield, seems that they are definitely losing their edge this late in the season. So again - overconfident, or tired?

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I don't think they were either tired or over confident. Different teams show up on different days. Eastridge showed up to play Thomas didn't, Irondequiot was a good game, Penfield showed up at OT and Thomas had the ball bounce the other way this time. Yes with many chances the ball is expected to go in, but it didn't. Its a great game.

[er#1fan]

yeah i heard about the penfield thomas game and i might have to agree they have played well under where they were in the beggining and even the middle of the season well the exception of the tie to irondequoit their last few games should have been what you would expect to be easy wins if this continues into sectionals could be short entry for thomas

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regarding brighton...they lost a lot of players this year and had to move a mojority of their jv up to varsity and modified to jv, which is why they look so young. also they have a new coach this year.

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Sectionals start tomorrow and the Irondequoit team is the one to beat in their bracket, their only losses were to ER. They tied Thomas at Macavoy, but dominated the game. They tied sutherland at pittsford then beat them last week 4-1. I believe that had 7 shut outs in nine games as well. This should prove to be their best year. Good luck to all the teams!

[er#1fan]

just a little correction irondequoit has lost 3 games the lost to sutherland at sutherland but did beat them at home. and it was 6 out of 9 shut outs but whos counting

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Sectionals start tomorrow and the Irondequoit team is the one to beat in their bracket, their only losses were to ER. They tied Thomas at Macavoy, but dominated the game. They tied sutherland at pittsford then beat them last week 4-1. I believe that had 7 shut outs in nine games as well. This should prove to be their best year. Good luck to all the teams!

Irondeqouit didn't dominate Thomas, both teams had their moments.

[er#1fan]

i didnt see that game but we will see a redo of it soon so we will see then when it has to end in someone winning

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Irondequoit looked good against Brighton. The Barons played some wonderful defense, particularly their goalie who really came through with some great saves, but Irondequoit just kept pounding away and fast too.

Penfield and Hilton was a tough low scoring game that took two overtimes. Today should prove interesting. I still see Irondequoit v Thomas in the end, with the Irondequoit girls on top.

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Irondequoit looked good against Brighton. The Barons played some wonderful defense, particularly their goalie who really came through with some great saves, but Irondequoit just kept pounding away and fast too.

Penfield and Hilton was a tough low scoring game that took two overtimes. Today should prove interesting. I still see Irondequoit v Thomas in the end, with the Irondequoit girls on top.

There's a thread started to talk about sectionals:

http://sectionv.talksback.com/showthread.php?t=5268

And there are several of us who agree with your prediction!