batavia football/coach working at school

[hilly]

The Batavia football program has a great coach in Dan Geiger. The problem is that the school district hasn't hired him yet to teach.
I wrote a column last football season about this and I feel strongly that a good coach must teach at the school for the program to be a winner.
Batavia has a nice history, but has been very bad in recent memory. If the school doesn't hire Geiger, I'm positive he'll leave for a school that will hire him. Then Batavia is back at square 1.
I don't know of any schools that have great football programs, with a coach not around to get the good athletes to play. Does anybody know of any programs that have a coach not teaching at the school, that still win year in and year out?

[superheroaj]

Smart schools hire teachers and then find out if they coach or ask them to coach. It's bad practice to hire someone only because they're a coach. That's why they pay teachers more than coaches, it's more important.

[hilly]

Smart schools hire teachers and then find out if they coach or ask them to coach. It's bad practice to hire someone only because they're a coach. That's why they pay teachers more than coaches, it's more important.

i don't agree. there are a lot more quality teachers than quality coaches. if you get a guy like brian moran (le roy), john dowd (oakfield), jim briggs (formally gates-chili) or any other guy that can lead a program, you need to snag him up. the guy can obviously teach if he is a coach.
i think geiger is that guy. i have never talked to anybody that has taken a class with him, but i'm sure he's as good as most other teachers. but i have talked to players that he has had and they love him.

[hilly]

I think that the assumption that "teachers are the best coaches" is entirely untrue. I am not saying that that is what you are saying.

For six straight seasons (2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002 and 2001) the Palmyra-Macedon Red Raider girls track and field team won 43 straight meets (league and non-league) and won the League title all six years. In those years they won the 2003 and 2004 Team Sectional titles all under a non-teacher coach.

This past 2007 season that head coach did not coach, and the school then hired a teacher/coach. The team lost for the first time in six years with a record of 3-2.



track is a different animal than football. i think that a good high school football coach has to be around to get the good athletes to come out. all sports are a lot of work, but football is the one that requires the most. a good football coach needs to recruit and motivate. a track athlete knows he can run fast and will come out for the track team because he can. not all good football players know they are good. i have seen many athletes that are great at track and that's what they think their best sport is, until they try football. then they turn out to be great receivers of defensive backs. and nothing against track, but it's how fast you can get from point a to point b. football is a lot more work by the athlete and requires more contact with the coaching staff.

[football#1]

The Batavia football program has a great coach in Dan Geiger. The problem is that the school district hasn't hired him yet to teach.
I wrote a column last football season about this and I feel strongly that a good coach must teach at the school for the program to be a winner.
Batavia has a nice history, but has been very bad in recent memory. If the school doesn't hire Geiger, I'm positive he'll leave for a school that will hire him. Then Batavia is back at square 1.
I don't know of any schools that have great football programs, with a coach not around to get the good athletes to play. Does anybody know of any programs that have a coach not teaching at the school, that still win year in and year out?

When I first logged on I read your subject heading and thought you were going to say that Geiger finally got hired.That was disappointing!Your right,they really need to get this guy into the district.He coaches 2 sports in Batavia,teaches in Churchville Chili, and lives in Brockport.I know he was looking to buy a house here but you cant blame for not wanting to make a commitment to Batavia if the district is unwilling to make one to him.Do you think that it's because they really don't have a position to offer him or that they dont want the same thing happen as the last coach,where they gave him a teaching job and he resigned after 2 years?Whatever the reason is,they better correct it to keep this guy.I am the parent of a soon to be senior football player(this is his account) who has played varsity for 3 years and had other relatives play before that so I keep up on the program.This guy is just what Batavia needs.He is an old school coach and this years seniors(all 12) have bought into that and are old school all the way.It has seemed that to many of Batavia's recent teams expected to lose.It was great to win but if they lost,it was ok because they were supposed to.I can tell you that this this years team will be different.They hate to lose,love football,and are dedicated.Whether that translates into wins remains to be seen but this years squad has attitude.Geiger can take credit for that.

[hilly]

When I first logged on I read your subject heading and thought you were going to say that Geiger finally got hired.That was disappointing!Your right,they really need to get this guy into the district.He coaches 2 sports in Batavia,teaches in Churchville Chili, and lives in Brockport.I know he was looking to buy a house here but you cant blame for not wanting to make a commitment to Batavia if the district is unwilling to make one to him.Do you think that it's because they really don't have a position to offer him or that they dont want the same thing happen as the last coach,where they gave him a teaching job and he resigned after 2 years?Whatever the reason is,they better correct it to keep this guy.I am the parent of a soon to be senior football player(this is his account) who has played varsity for 3 years and had other relatives play before that so I keep up on the program.This guy is just what Batavia needs.He is an old school coach and this years seniors(all 12) have bought into that and are old school all the way.It has seemed that to many of Batavia's recent teams expected to lose.It was great to win but if they lost,it was ok because they were supposed to.I can tell you that this this years team will be different.They hate to lose,love football,and are dedicated.Whether that translates into wins remains to be seen but this years squad has attitude.Geiger can take credit for that.


from what i know, there was a job in the past and he didn't get it. he was told he would, but didn't. it really is a shame that batavia football is where it has been in recent times. there are a lot of great kids that have gone through the program.
the last coach didn't just quit, but i can't go into details.
geiger is the real deal ... a great family guy, a smart coach and somebody that wants to be in batavia. for some reason, the school hasn't made him a part of our community yet. it might be that they are too busy taking care of problems with teachers doing things that most of the people around here don't agree with, but football is not a big deal to them. most of the other sports probably wouldn't be either if it wasn't for great guys like mike bromley, buddy brasky, rick saunders and jason bibler. they dedicate their lives to coaching and don't get the respect they deserve.
geiger is a great coach and is the right guy to turn the program around, but batavia is trying to hard to be a "big city" that takes care of issues that are hurting the kids, not helping them. sports builds character and it's unfortunate, but it isn't a priority here. it's pretty pathetic when small towns like alexander, oakfield and pembroke have more kids on the football team than a class a school like batavia.
i don't root for teams, but i want to see the schools in this area do well. it's a real shame that the kids at batavia have been hurt as long as they have been by a lack of support by the district. i don't know geiger all that well but i have had a few conversations with the guy. he should be hired to teach here.
if he isn't, he's going to leave. he has every right to. why would he keep that job if there is no future for him here?

[football#1]

Smart schools hire teachers and then find out if they coach or ask them to coach. It's bad practice to hire someone only because they're a coach. That's why they pay teachers more than coaches, it's more important.

I have a feeling that when it comes to football,most that apply for coaching jobs are teachers anyway.Obviously teaching credentials are very important and I don't know the process that a athletic directer goes through when hiring a coach but I guess if I was one I would pick a good coach that I wanted and then leave it to someone else to investigate what their teaching qualification's are before they are hired to coach and then try to get them in the district to teach .To be honest,your comment sounds like bad practice.If you only hired your teachers that currently working at a school you limit yourself and have to settle for whoever in the school wants the position.Who says that if 5 teachers apply for a coaching job,that any are a good coach?And what if nobody in the school wanted the job?what if only 1 person applied?thats not good hiring practice to hire someone by default because nobody else applied.You have a whole lot more good teachers than you have good coaches.Especially when your talking coaching football.

[hilly]

Sadly enough, there are a lot of coaches in this world who coach for some extra bucks. Of course this does not apply to all, but they are out there.

Speaking from personal experience, the process is that the athletic department usually posts a list in the building of all of the coaching positions. Each season anyone can apply for the position by submitting a letter of interest. For assistant coaches, they usually come from recomendation of the head coach. There really isn't an interview process, but there should be. There is far less to the "becoming a coach" process than one would think. A first year coach is required to be certified in CPR/First Aid. A second year coach is required to complete a certification class which is called something like Prinicipals and Philosophies. Third year coaches are required to complete a course called Theroy and Technique. This completes the high school coaching certification.


i've seen many coaches that are just "in it for the check" and they usually have really bad teams. the coach usually coaches a sport like tennis or golf, but there have been examples in bigger sports.
i agree that athletics are a secondary thing for high school kids, but you wouldn't hire a music teacher that has never played anything in his/her life.

[sflcards45]

Sadly enough, there are a lot of coaches in this world who coach for some extra bucks. Of course this does not apply to all, but they are out there.

Speaking from personal experience, the process is that the athletic department usually posts a list in the building of all of the coaching positions. Each season anyone can apply for the position by submitting a letter of interest. For assistant coaches, they usually come from recomendation of the head coach. There really isn't an interview process, but there should be. There is far less to the "becoming a coach" process than one would think. A first year coach is required to be certified in CPR/First Aid. A second year coach is required to complete a certification class which is called something like Prinicipals and Philosophies. Third year coaches are required to complete a course called Theroy and Technique. This completes the high school coaching certification.

I know when the boys basketball job was open at Campbell-Savona they did full interviews as there was a lot of interest in the program both from within the program itself and also from "outsiders" (for lack of a better term). I think that a lot of the times when it just falls to a teacher, it happens in "less popular" sports that a lot of people don't want to put the time and effort into coaching and doing the job right. That's when you get people who are appointed just by letters of interest for the most part.

As far as those coaching classes, I know our college offers them (I'm planning on taking the Principles and Philosophies one in the spring) - where do coaches go to take them? Are they available through most colleges?

[overnback]

Bear with me now. Batavia's inrollment is around 560 (give or take) Fb occupies 60-70 kids for 2 hours a day, for 10 weeks. That's not really an overwhelming argument for some people(board of educations & AD's). However for the athletes that put in the time and effort to be the best they can be, it is an insult to the very core of what they are trying to represent. They are demanding of themselves and hopefully their teammates so that they can achieve some measure of success. At the same time they are expected by their district to "represent" their school in a positive way (as it should be). However, the people that do the hiring (BOE) treat the situation as an afterthought, if that.
How can you ask for and demand respect when you give none? It's not a one way street.
I think that this happens when the constituents rear their heads and make a lot of noise about the school tax going up. Pretty soon you have "reformers" on the board who are only looking at the bottom line and not quality of life issues. Take a closer look and I'll I bet there alot of depts in the school that have issues on how things are run.
I have a feeling that this will slowly spread and be the norm within the next ten yrs if Albany can't figure out a different way to fund schools.
It's not right ...but the times they are a changin.

[hilly]

Bear with me now. Batavia's inrollment is around 560 (give or take) Fb occupies 60-70 kids for 2 hours a day, for 10 weeks. That's not really an overwhelming argument for some people(board of educations & AD's). However for the athletes that put in the time and effort to be the best they can be, it is an insult to the very core of what they are trying to represent. They are demanding of themselves and hopefully their teammates so that they can achieve some measure of success. At the same time they are expected by their district to "represent" their school in a positive way (as it should be). However, the people that do the hiring (BOE) treat the situation as an afterthought, if that.
How can you ask for and demand respect when you give none? It's not a one way street.
I think that this happens when the constituents rear their heads and make a lot of noise about the school tax going up. Pretty soon you have "reformers" on the board who are only looking at the bottom line and not quality of life issues. Take a closer look and I'll I bet there alot of depts in the school that have issues on how things are run.
I have a feeling that this will slowly spread and be the norm within the next ten yrs if Albany can't figure out a different way to fund schools.
It's not right ...but the times they are a changin.


how does this problem get fixed? i agree that schools need to get back to teaching kids the right way of living and putting a priority on sports and academics, rather than liberal beliefs (that i'm not going to say in public, but batavia has put a priority on).
athletic programs do cost money, but it is money well spent. many schools are very good about funding athletics, but there are many that aren't. i see school budgets every year and i'm shocked when a proposal that is for sports is turned down, when a ton of money is going to fund things that should be taught at home.
most kids are raised right and should have the opportunity to play whatever sport they want, but today's world supports those that are different than everybody else. if you have a different sexual preference, wear clothing that is not what most people wear or have another issue that makes you different than most, you get preferential treatment today.
i don't get why 5 of 10 kids want to play football, and 2 of 10 kids want to live an "alternative lifestyle", and the kids that are "different" get the preferential treatment. if you are a guy and want to wear a dress to school, the state will spend five times the amount of tax dollars to make sure you are happy than they would spend to fund a kid to play football.
i think it is a problem with today's world, but we are too worried about taking care of those that are different than the norm, so now the norm is getting shafted.

[UNCTarheels]

It depends on where you go, I was hired to coach and then took the Coaching classes, the School paid for them and I took them at another local school on Saturday and Sundays for 4-6 hours at a time, I had to take the Philosophies class that Sflcards was talking about.

[football#1]

from what i know, there was a job in the past and he didn't get it. he was told he would, but didn't. it really is a shame that batavia football is where it has been in recent times. there are a lot of great kids that have gone through the program.
the last coach didn't just quit, but i can't go into details.
geiger is the real deal ... a great family guy, a smart coach and somebody that wants to be in batavia. for some reason, the school hasn't made him a part of our community yet. it might be that they are too busy taking care of problems with teachers doing things that most of the people around here don't agree with, but football is not a big deal to them. most of the other sports probably wouldn't be either if it wasn't for great guys like mike bromley, buddy brasky, rick saunders and jason bibler. they dedicate their lives to coaching and don't get the respect they deserve.
geiger is a great coach and is the right guy to turn the program around, but batavia is trying to hard to be a "big city" that takes care of issues that are hurting the kids, not helping them. sports builds character and it's unfortunate, but it isn't a priority here. it's pretty pathetic when small towns like alexander, oakfield and pembroke have more kids on the football team than a class a school like batavia.
i don't root for teams, but i want to see the schools in this area do well. it's a real shame that the kids at batavia have been hurt as long as they have been by a lack of support by the district. i don't know geiger all that well but i have had a few conversations with the guy. he should be hired to teach here.
if he isn't, he's going to leave. he has every right to. why would he keep that job if there is no future for him here?

There are a couple of new members on Batavia's BOE that have kids playing football.Maybe it will help change some things.I know that all sports programs take a lot of money to run but with the cost of equipment,uniforms,coaches etc.,football has to cost the most.I think the less the district makes it a priority than the less $ they have to put into it.They have no problem sending the baseball team down south every year for preseason and if I'm not mistaken the basketball team travels quite a bit before their season starts.Do you think that would happen for the football team?Never.They can't even get new uniforms or a decent field to play on.The field was so bad they ended up last year playing a home game away and another "home" game at Cal-Mum.They didn't want to put the money into fixing the field correctly so they spent a couple hundred thousand dollars in a drainage system that never worked and ended back at square one. I think that if the football team started winning consistantly every year then people would be pushing the district to start putting a little more money into the program.All this and now Geiger still not teaching here makes you wonder if they really want them to have a winning program.

[hilly]

There are a couple of new members on Batavia's BOE that have kids playing football.Maybe it will help change some things.I know that all sports programs take a lot of money to run but with the cost of equipment,uniforms,coaches etc.,football has to cost the most.I think the less the district makes it a priority than the less $ they have to put into it.They have no problem sending the baseball team down south every year for preseason and if I'm not mistaken the basketball team travels quite a bit before their season starts.Do you think that would happen for the football team?Never.They can't even get new uniforms or a decent field to play on.The field was so bad they ended up last year playing a home game away and another "home" game at Cal-Mum.They didn't want to put the money into fixing the field correctly so they spent a couple hundred thousand dollars in a drainage system that never worked and ended back at square one. I think that if the football team started winning consistantly every year then people would be pushing the district to start putting a little more money into the program.All this and now Geiger still not teaching here makes you wonder if they really want them to have a winning program.



i'll defend the boe for a moment ... the basketball and baseball teams do travel, but a lot of that is paid for by the kids. but i do agree that batavia has football on the backburner. vandetta stadium is a joke for a class a school, yet the district will tell you how great it is. if you go to a batavia football game, you will see half-full stands and will hear how great the tradition is, but then you hear how bad things have been for the last decade.

[superheroaj]

but today's world supports those that are different than everybody else. if you have a different sexual preference, wear clothing that is not what most people wear or have another issue that makes you different than most, you get preferential treatment today.
i don't get why 5 of 10 kids want to play football, and 2 of 10 kids want to live an "alternative lifestyle", and the kids that are "different" get the preferential treatment.

I am a huge sports fan. I grew up playing sports and chose my profession based on my love of sports. But I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with your point here.

Supporting those who are different than everybody else is the basis of the our country. The constitution guarantees this right and I have no problem supporting such policy.

I object to the term "preferential treatment" to those who are "different." There is still a jock culture that exists in schools today is too closely related to bullying and violence. Is todays treatment of people who are not the norm just simply tolerance? Or should we go back to the days when "jocks" would run the school and beat up "nerds."

Also, 5 out of 10 kids don't want to to football. And if 2 out 10 kids want to live an alternative lifestyle, they have every right to do that and every right to be protected from people who want to take that away from them.

[superheroaj]

I agree that people shouldn't be treated differently. But I also feel that because the so called "different" people are different, they shouldn't be treated better.

Those people who choose to be different by having a different sexual preference etc., need to know that they are at risk of being picked on. I don't condone them being picked on, but it is going to happen and their shouldn't be any rules to protect them either. Life is life. As much as the "jocks" pick on the "nerds", I am sure the "nerds" think that being a "jock" is dumb but I can't remember the last time a "nerd" got in trouble for picking on a "jock."

That is because "nerds" (really old term, I shouldn't use) are typically physically inferior to jocks so they don't pick on jocks for fear of physical harm.

Being at risk to be picked on is different from being bullied. Being bullied is being belittled, humiliated and harassed by someone who assumes power over that person. Nobody has a right to do that. The "rules to protect them" are truly anti-violence rules that all schools should have no matter the student. They are the same rules for everyone and protect people from being bullied including physical and verbal harassment. A good example is a senior athlete has no right to physically harm an underclass athlete. The same protection applies and appropriately so.

Not to mention, people don't choose to have a different sexual preference, they are born that way.

[hilly]

i do not support a kid getting beat up or bullied. i hope it isn't taken that way.
i just feel that schools are not allowing kids to be kids anymore. the kids that are "different" have a right to be different, but the kids that conform to the norm should have a right to say stuff to the ones that are "different". i haven't been out of high school for that long and some of my best and worst memories deal with being picked on and picking on others. that's how kids learn about the real world.
working in the newspaper business there are a lot of people that are "different" that i meet. there is always going to be that guy that works in production or as a janitor that comes off as a little odd. full grown adults will pick on this person. in the old days before we became so pc, he learned how to deal with that stuff. kids can't bust each other's chops now without getting in serious trouble so the ones that would normally get picked on are not learning how to deal with it. the world is worried about making sure everybody has high self esteem when they are kids, but what happens when they grow up and enter the real world and there are some adults that bully other adults. this will hurt his self esteem.
this is an old topic now, but it works with the theme of this thread. remember the transgender teacher at batavia? the school spent a ton of money to make him/her comfortable. the school obviously has to legally do this, but our society is putting his comfort at work above many other things, like field trips, sports, new books ...
i have been told that there is a rule at the school that anybody that makes a joke about men wearing women's clothing get suspended from school. i agree that you can't have kids that don't know much about the situation ripping this person. no teaching would ever get done. but if a couple of kids are in the hallway joking about it and are overheard, they are in serious trouble.
i am way off the topic of sports now, sorry, but i think sports are not as much of a priority as they used to be in schools and it's because our society is too busy trying keep everybody happy all the time.

[superheroaj]

i do not support a kid getting beat up or bullied.

the kids that are "different" have a right to be different, but the kids that conform to the norm should have a right to say stuff to the ones that are "different".

The "stuff" that kids say is sometimes "bullying"... not fun... not playful... but "bullying." I'm ok with picking amongst teenagers. I'm not ok when one person intimidates the other. There is a line that can be crossed and it's fair to discipline kids accordingly.

Kids can't have the right to be "different" unless they are protected from being bullied, intimidated, abused or harassed.

[hilly]

The "stuff" that kids say is sometimes "bullying"... not fun... not playful... but "bullying." I'm ok with picking amongst teenagers. I'm not ok when one person intimidates the other. There is a line that can be crossed and it's fair to discipline kids accordingly.

Kids can't have the right to be "different" unless they are protected from being bullied, intimidated, abused or harassed.



kids will be kids though and they aren't being allowed to do that. i am anti-hazing and i wouldn't want to see a kid be abused, but i don't agree with rules that are not allowing kids to interact with each other like happens in the real world.
i was picked on in high school, i was a little chunky, wore glasses and wasn't the best athlete in the world. but i also picked on kids too, mainly the "punk rock" kids. i think it's a natural thing for kids to be able to interact with each other in these ways.
i think that taking that kind of interaction away is going to soften some kids and they are going to be hurt in the future when they don't know how to deal with a bully. schools have to protect kids to an extent, but it's going too far in my opinion.

[overnback]

I don't care who you are or what you do as long as it doesn't infringe on my rights. I am bothered by someone that would advocate the right to tease or harrass someone because they are different. This is a bigger problem than being overly "PC". Whoever raised you must be awfully proud of your intolerance of others. (Hey, look at the weird old loser pushing the broom and emptying my garbage. Ha, ha.) How about living with a little civility and humbleness. I don't understand how people can do that and then look themselves in the mirror and feel okay. Your right about one thing though, this is way off topic, I'm out til Sept.

[overnback]

I certainly hope that you don't feel as though I am the advocating the right to tease or harrass someone because they are different. I am against such activity.

You seem to have a decent take on the situation. Maybe I came off as too "preacher" like. Let me put it this way. Everybody has the right to do whatever they want. However if and when they offend or injure somebody, unprovoked, then that somebody has the right to kick the dog crap out of you. At least that's how I'm built. Now I'm not so insecure that I have to knock down the less fortunate or different people of this world to make myself feel better than someone else. Maybe as a result of the way I conduct myself, I don't really ever feel walked on by some idiot trying to boost his own self esteem. Maybe they just say it behind my back, who knows? Hey, I"ve said too much already, see ya.

[hilly]

You seem to have a decent take on the situation. Maybe I came off as too "preacher" like. Let me put it this way. Everybody has the right to do whatever they want. However if and when they offend or injure somebody, unprovoked, then that somebody has the right to kick the dog crap out of you. At least that's how I'm built. Now I'm not so insecure that I have to knock down the less fortunate or different people of this world to make myself feel better than someone else. Maybe as a result of the way I conduct myself, I don't really ever feel walked on by some idiot trying to boost his own self esteem. Maybe they just say it behind my back, who knows? Hey, I"ve said too much already, see ya.

i don't think anybody has said they are for any abusive behavior, but i have said that kids need to learn how to defend themselves and a little picking is natural. if you think people don't pick on others as adults, you are wrong. i've worked in health care, then radio, now print journalism and every place i've ever worked has had people picking on others. and as well adjusted adults, it isn't a big deal. but these adults were able to pick on and be picked on in high school.
nobody should be hitting somebody else in the head with a brick in the hallway. but kids don't benefit from getting three hours of time with a shrink because somebody made fun of his shoes.

[Bayhawk]

Interesting thread. As for Geiger, I'm not sure what subject he teaches, but if the district doesn't have a position open in his area, how can they hire him as a teacher? They can't just create a teacher opening. It's a difficult situation to coach in but can be done. Battaglia teaches at Penfield and coaches at Aquinas and won a sectional title his first year. I know that's not comparing apples to apples, but it shows it can be done. Batavia is in a tough spot. They are the smallest school in the County, and playing teams like Athena and Irondequoit isn't easy for them. Hopefully Geiger can get things going. He was well thought of at C-C.

[hilly]

Interesting thread. As for Geiger, I'm not sure what subject he teaches, but if the district doesn't have a position open in his area, how can they hire him as a teacher? They can't just create a teacher opening. It's a difficult situation to coach in but can be done. Battaglia teaches at Penfield and coaches at Aquinas and won a sectional title his first year. I know that's not comparing apples to apples, but it shows it can be done. Batavia is in a tough spot. They are the smallest school in the County, and playing teams like Athena and Irondequoit isn't easy for them. Hopefully Geiger can get things going. He was well thought of at C-C.


the difference between battaglia and geiger is aquinas is an established program that doesn't need to be rebuilt. batavia hasn't won in a long time and needs a lot of attention. the best athletes don't play football and won't if the coach isn't around.

[ref11]

i was a coach at 2 high schools doing boys and then girls basketball. the boys job a teacher bump me out. i am a certified coach in new york .second job school got rid of me for a coach who is not certified . there needs to be the same way all thru the state. dont let schools make up there own rules

[hilly]

i was a coach i 2 high schools doing boys and then girls basketball. the boys job a teacher bump me out. i am a certified coach in new york .second job school got rid of me for a coach who is not certified . there needs to be the same way all thru the state. dont let schools make up there own rules

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i'm assuming you aren't an english teacher

[section5fan]

Hahaha that did not make any sense.

[saints_dad]

Interesting thread. As for Geiger, I'm not sure what subject he teaches <snip> He was well thought of at C-C.

He's a Math teacher. You're absolutely correct in that Coach Geiger was very well thought of a CCHS. He's a great guy and a moral guy. I have no doubt he can resurrect the Batavia program. They played the CC Saints very competitively at the Brockport Camp early this month.

[fanatic]

The Batavia football program has a great coach in Dan Geiger. The problem is that the school district hasn't hired him yet to teach.
I wrote a column last football season about this and I feel strongly that a good coach must teach at the school for the program to be a winner.
Batavia has a nice history, but has been very bad in recent memory. If the school doesn't hire Geiger, I'm positive he'll leave for a school that will hire him. Then Batavia is back at square 1.
I don't know of any schools that have great football programs, with a coach not around to get the good athletes to play. Does anybody know of any programs that have a coach not teaching at the school, that still win year in and year out?

Yes, NOTRE DAME.
When will the merry-go-round of coaches end at batavia? Is there even a coach in the program that has been there any time at all?

[fanatic]

Interesting thread. As for Geiger, I'm not sure what subject he teaches, but if the district doesn't have a position open in his area, how can they hire him as a teacher? They can't just create a teacher opening. It's a difficult situation to coach in but can be done. Battaglia teaches at Penfield and coaches at Aquinas and won a sectional title his first year. I know that's not comparing apples to apples, but it shows it can be done. Batavia is in a tough spot. They are the smallest school in the County, and playing teams like Athena and Irondequoit isn't easy for them. Hopefully Geiger can get things going. He was well thought of at C-C.

Not a good comparison, Aquinas should not be allowed in the NYSPHSAA,