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OldSchool78
10-30-2008, 08:17 AM
Maybe the AD knew what he was doing after all. If the ultimate goal is to win a championship, Mendon is right where they need to be. They seem to be playing their best at the end of the season. That is the mark of a young team that learned to play better as the year progressed. That is also the mark of a patient and good coach. I wonder where all of the naysayers are.

Kicker6
10-30-2008, 12:15 PM
I'm right here. I'm not going ANYWHERE!

First: congratulations goes out to the Mendon team.

Secondly: Yes, the "ultimate" goal is to win a championship, but let's not forget that a coach should not only be coaching wins and losses, but also how to win with grace, lose with respect, how to be a team player, push oneself, budget time, how to follow rules, increase a healthy lifestyle, make good decisions on and off the playing field, demonstrate communication, etc. I KNOW that Janet Wright fulfilled ALL of these requirements. I have NO IDEA if coach Pritchard is fulfilling these items -- and that is NOT the issue.

The issue is the AD, Scotty Barker, dismissed Janet despite her on and off field successes. It has NOTHING to do with this year's team.


Btw - I'd still like to know what the sources are for those that say the adminstration in Pittsford is great and most coaches don't have any issues with Barker.

nitlions
10-30-2008, 12:24 PM
am a graduate of Mendon HS and go to PSU now. the girls hated coach wright...many used to say that they won despite her....most players have no contact with her at all......new coach is good for the program. hope they win it all

315-4-life
10-30-2008, 02:15 PM
Doesn't thier post season winning beg the question why was their record so lousy all fall. To say its all about the championship is silly. Only one team wins that did the rest have bad seasons. Victor lost 3 times did they have a bad season. Pal Mac lost twice. So when Mercy beats them 3-0 will we conclude it was a bad season.

nitlions
10-31-2008, 07:16 AM
when 315 teams start playing AQ, Mercy, and other County schools then we can talk about regular season records.....every year they come in with top seeds and loose. Where is Pal-Mac, wayne, CA, and hf-l made there annual drop out before the finals........

Kicker6
10-31-2008, 08:47 AM
when 315 teams start playing AQ, Mercy, and other County schools then we can talk about regular season records.....every year they come in with top seeds and loose. Where is Pal-Mac, wayne, CA, and hf-l made there annual drop out before the finals........


I think you missed the point Nit. 315 was stating that you can't base a season as successful or unsuccessful soley on winning the championship. 315 used some schools (yes, they were all non-MC schools but that's irrelevant) as examples of teams with good records and because they won't win the Sectional final that shloudn't determine their season as unsuccessful.

Here's another example: The Brockport boy's team lost in the finals. Their final record was 16-3. Because they didn't win their final game, should we say the team's season was unsuccessful? . . . no

blue25
10-31-2008, 08:49 AM
Doesn't thier post season winning beg the question why was their record so lousy all fall. To say its all about the championship is silly. Only one team wins that did the rest have bad seasons. Victor lost 3 times did they have a bad season. Pal Mac lost twice. So when Mercy beats them 3-0 will we conclude it was a bad season.

I am not really sure how anybody could say a team had a bad season if they have reached the sectional finals. Looks to me like the coach has them playing EXACTLY how they need to be playing right now...regardless of their challenges during the season. Sure, a loss in sectional finals is disappointing for the losing team, but making it there is a tremendous accomplishment! Those two teams are the only ones there...everybody else has handed in their uniforms.

Good luck to both teams!

nitlions
10-31-2008, 09:41 AM
Kicker 6...if you look at his post, he questions the regular season because they are in the finals....my point is that if you look at mendons schedule, is ther anyone that played a tougher regular season schedule?? sectionals are an open tournament, so having a team peak now, is IMPORTANT and a lot has to do with coaching....new coach, new system, new team, maybe took a while to get everyone on same page......

Kicker6
10-31-2008, 09:44 AM
I am not really sure how anybody could say a team had a bad season if they have reached the sectional finals. Looks to me like the coach has them playing EXACTLY how they need to be playing right now...regardless of their challenges during the season. Sure, a loss in sectional finals is disappointing for the losing team, but making it there is a tremendous accomplishment! Those two teams are the only ones there...everybody else has handed in their uniforms.

Good luck to both teams!


315's point was Victor and Pal-Mac still had successful seasons even though they didn't win the final.

Kicker6
10-31-2008, 09:46 AM
Kicker 6...if you look at his post, he questions the regular season because they are in the finals....my point is that if you look at mendons schedule, is ther anyone that played a tougher regular season schedule?? sectionals are an open tournament, so having a team peak now, is IMPORTANT and a lot has to do with coaching....new coach, new system, new team, maybe took a while to get everyone on same page......

I see your point of view. :)

Maybe I misread the post. (I guess I shouldn't be the one trying to explain 315's posts.) :rolleyes:

PittsfordSportsFan
10-31-2008, 01:38 PM
I follow a number of Pittsford sports especially soccer and basketball and heard about some Mendon girls soccer chat on this forum so I wanted to come see for myself what was being said. I personally think it was a great move for Mendon to hire a new coach this year, it was a long time coming. I heard nothing but bad things about the old coach from numerous players who played for her. They had little respect for her and it showed with a couple girls who decided not to play their senior years because she was the coach. Kicker6 seems to really support what was done by the old coach, but it's good to see a few people telling the true side of the story on here as well. It wouldn't surprise me if Kicker6 was Janet Wright herself making posts online. I hope Mendon wins sectionals to hopefully shut up a few people. Goodluck Girls and goodluck to the new coaching staff

DrewVT6
10-31-2008, 01:46 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Kicker6 was Janet Wright herself making posts online. I hope Mendon wins sectionals to hopefully shut up a few people. Goodluck Girls and goodluck to the new coaching staff

He's not.

315-4-life
10-31-2008, 02:45 PM
I see your point of view. :)

Maybe I misread the post. (I guess I shouldn't be the one trying to explain 315's posts.) :rolleyes:

You did make my point. I love the MonroeCounty tougher schedule arguement. If Pal Mac played Aquinas and lost does that make them better. Mendon lost to those teams. Didnt Mendon play those same teams last fall. Newarks schedule included Leroy, sectional finalist (who they beat), Naz sectional finalist, and Mercy was in the same tourney but they didnt end up meeting in Final.

Pal MAc and NEwark and Mendon beat Batavia. Newark tied HFL, Mendon lost to them.

Pal Mac beat Eastridge Mendon went 1-1 vs them


CA crushed Odyessey Mendon lost

In scrimmages in preseason PM beat MEndo 2-0 in a half

SO MY POINT IS>>>>UNLESS THEY WIN TEIR SEASON IS NOT A SUCCESS>>> IF THEY WIN IT WAS A GOOD RUN

Kicker6
10-31-2008, 03:02 PM
I follow a number of Pittsford sports especially soccer and basketball and heard about some Mendon girls soccer chat on this forum so I wanted to come see for myself what was being said. I personally think it was a great move for Mendon to hire a new coach this year, it was a long time coming. I heard nothing but bad things about the old coach from numerous players who played for her. They had little respect for her and it showed with a couple girls who decided not to play their senior years because she was the coach. Kicker6 seems to really support what was done by the old coach, but it's good to see a few people telling the true side of the story on here as well. It wouldn't surprise me if Kicker6 was Janet Wright herself making posts online. I hope Mendon wins sectionals to hopefully shut up a few people. Goodluck Girls and goodluck to the new coaching staff

Although I do not agree with your opinion, I do respect it. That aside, who's to say what you posted is the "true side?" Just because a couple of players (read 2) decided not to play their senior year does not make Janet Wright a bad coach. I would venture to say that almost every coach has 1 or 2 players choose to not come back out their senior year and/or not get along with them.

So you "follow" some Pittsford sports including soccer and bball. And you base your comments on "you've talked to numerous players?" So, you had NO interaction with coach Wright AT ALL? Ever meet her? Ever talk to her? Ever have a daughter play for her? Ever coach with her? Ever work with her? But, according to you, it was "a long time coming."

Like I said, "I'll respect your comment, but totally disagree."

One more thing: Even if Mendon wins Sectionals, that doesn't mean Scotty Barker did the right thing. The whole issue was "Why did he dismiss her even though she was an accomplished coach with tremendous credentials?"

PittsfordSportsFan
10-31-2008, 03:52 PM
"So you "follow" some Pittsford sports including soccer and bball. And you base your comments on "you've talked to numerous players?" So, you had NO interaction with coach Wright AT ALL? Ever meet her? Ever talk to her? Ever have a daughter play for her? Ever coach with her? Ever work with her? But, according to you, it was "a long time coming."



To answer that question, I have met coach Wright, I've talked to her many many times and I've even worked with her before. I've also talked to a number of her players over the years and thats why I say it was a long time coming, because many of them disliked her. Every coach has players who do not like them, and who don't come out for the team because they don't like their coach, but for coach Wright it seemed like there were more kids who disliked her than liked her. Besides a few parents who thought she was great, many parents, athletes and even people she has worked with would have a very different opinion.

Everyone has their own opinion on this situation, but there has to be alot more to the story than a couple parents complained and she was fired. No Athletic Director in their right mind would fire a coach because of a couple parent complaints. I don't think there is a coach in all of Monroe county who hasn't had an issue with a parent at some time or another. In my opinion she did not have her contract renewed not only because of parent and player complaints, but because of the person she is in Pittsford that parents don't always get to see but adminstration see all the time.

Kicker6
10-31-2008, 04:21 PM
You definitely shed more light for your reasons, and I again respect your opinion. (I still don't agree, but your points were very well articulated. I'll have to mull them over . . . )

I also agree with you that that there HAS to be more to the story.

315-4-life
11-01-2008, 07:01 PM
So was it a godd season?

DrewVT6
11-01-2008, 08:31 PM
So was it a godd season?

If I were the coach or a team member, I'd be pretty stinkin' pleased with the progress over the course of the season. When I've coached teams I've always aimed to improve with each game and play our best as we come to the end of the season. If you start as low and slow as these girls did, to get the results at the end of the season and the progress as a team and individuals that these girls did must feel fantastic.

Kicker6
11-01-2008, 09:10 PM
If I were the coach or a team member, I'd be pretty stinkin' pleased with the progress over the course of the season. When I've coached teams I've always aimed to improve with each game and play our best as we come to the end of the season. If you start as low and slow as these girls did, to get the results at the end of the season and the progress as a team and individuals that these girls did must feel fantastic.


I agree with you Drew, except that I'm sure right now the players don't feel fantastic. Whenever you lose in the finals (even if you had a losing record and beat two higher seeds to advance there) it's a hollow feeling. Especially if it's a one goal game, a feeling of, "so close . . ." argggggh!