McQuaid faux pas...

[sportsfan]

Shame on the Jesuits for firing the baseball coach. He is a great coach...yeah, he rants and raves, but you won't find a more knowledgeable baseball (or BB for that matter) coach in the area. I find it extremely disheartening that they would "use" the coach to run the summer camps and then fire him. I'm sure that the "powers-that-be" knew the "score" (no pun intended) before summer began. Daddy Bigbucks strikes again! A darn shame. Glad my kids decided not to go there....

[DrewVT6]

was this in the paper?

[McQra9]

Bill Bowe was fired by McQuaid this week as baseball coach because of inappropriate behavior. He's whining that he was unfairly fired which is not the case. His firing had nothing to do with wins or losses, and had everything to do with his improper conduct, which included verbal abuse of his players and umpires and routine use of vulgar language in the presence of his team.

[rockandroll34]

Bill Bowe was a positive role model for the McQuaid student-athletes, so that last post was idiotic and insane.
The bottom line to this whole story is...
A few wealthy "friends of the program" had sons in Bowe's program, and because of lack of playing time, they told the higher ups that they would no longer be writing checks to the school.
Once again, money wins out on integrity and discipline.
School officials at McQuaid should be ashamed of themselves!!!!
And so should the "friends of the program."

[DrewVT6]

Those are some pretty hefty accusations to level without any hard evidence to back it up.

[hilly]

i personally like coaches that yell and show emotion. swearing might not be a good idea, but the guys that get on players and show emotion are usually great coaches.

[rockandroll34]

I do have evidence to back it up.
I know a father whose son has played in Bill Bowe's program the last three years.
He told me that McQuaid's "friends of the program" have been running that show for years.
He told me three years ago that this was going on and then this year the checks starting slowing up a bit.
So if you have a son with very little talent and want him to play the next few years, just open up your pockets and write McQuaid a check and your son will turn into a starter in no time.

[DrewVT6]

so did the coach not show up to the "Ethics Seminar" before he knew he would be fired?

I guess I don't understand the animosity your throwing at the institution.

[rockandroll34]

Actually Bowe had other plans that were put into place long before the "Ethics Seminar" was dated.
But, I wouldn't be surprised if he skipped that meeting solely based on integrity of his own values.
He knows full well that particular meeting was nothing more than a puppet show orchestrated by the "friends of the program."

Listen, I am VERY familiar with McQuaid and its "Play as you pay" stigma.
In his few years as head coach, Bowe maintained a proud and prestigious program, not by kissing the school officials' ass or by writing a check, but he did it by structure and discipline.

[McQra9]

The truth is sometimes painful as evidenced by the responses to Bill Bowe's firing
as the McQuaid baseball coach. If one has no patience with kids you'd think he'd try something other than coaching or teaching.

A wise man made the following comments after Bowe was fired from his basketball position following the 2005-2006 season:
"A suitable coach should have exceptional communicative skills, a clear vision of his convictions and perhaps most importantly the ability to convey his convictions in a diplomatic and mature manner to parents, players, and administration. I am sure there are coaches at Mcquaid that have enjoyed coaching within its Jesuit profile and the challenges and rewards it presents. I for one will never question Mr. Bowes passion, commitment or technical acumen in basketball. This however was a terrible hire. The screening process to match candidate with job description was flawed. As apparent as a Gene Keady hairpiece this marriage was doomed."

Recent comments by this same wise man also hit the mark:

"Last year, when a decision was made about the basketball situation, the players had significant input. The baseball players last year were of a different opinion. You can be sure that if a decision is made, then student input is being sought. Most of you who post on here forget that ultimately it is about the students - not the coach or the parents. With Bowe, he's got the technical expertise, but he doesn't have the student support. It's all about him - anyone who saw the program for last year's basketball games when he was coaching knows that - a huge write up - all about him.
He's far more suited to a college level game, not the role model you want for a high school.
Those of you who say it's about parents influence are pretty ignorant. It's pretty easy to post on here without any real knowledge of how the high school operates."

"This year his arrogance came out on the diamond just like the court last year. Despite your claims of McQ not being a Christian school in this - you fail to accept that this year was his chance to prove he could coach differently - he was given the chance in the sport which he was initially hired to coach - baseball. He was told what he needed to change - for example - his language - which is no longer acceptable now by any coach at McQ (don't start harping about past coaches!). He proved that the leopard couldn't change his spots."

For the record, the Jesuit training was a requirement for all coaches within the program. Perhaps Mr. Bowe could have benefited by its content!

[rockandroll34]

Two questions for McQra9...
1) Why did Bowe "really" get let go from the basketball program a few years ago??? Give the real reason — because I know it. 2) Are you a "friend of the program?"

Maybe Bowe did yell a lot, maybe Bowe did get overanimated at times... maybe Bowe even did 'F-Bomb' a time or two.

But should that mean a dismissal from his coaching duties?

Lets be realistic here for a second.

Billy Bowe is a blue collar coach that doesn't believe in handouts. He believes in discipline and

The clash of the backgrounds didn't fit in this case.
he wasn't about to give in to the "friends" and that cost him his gig....

[hilly]

Take it from somebody that has been on more high school sports sidelines than most, swearing is nothing new for athletes.
Coaches swear, athletes swear and fans swear. Is it proper? No. But it happens.
I have heard some of the best and most respected coaches drop an F-Bomb when something happens. And for the most part, every coach I have ever seen turns his head when he hears a player swear in practice. These aren't seventh graders.
I don't know much about McQuaid athletics, but if he was let go for using bad words then most of the coaches in Section 5 better watch out.
There has to be more to it.

[DrewVT6]

I don't see any issue with a "Christian" school using it as a guideline though. Especially if they gave said coach an opportunity to adjust to a stricter following of it.

Many coaches nowadays actually reprimand and give students who swear some form of discipline.

[UNCTarheels]

I've tried to stay out of this because I'm a fan of Bill Bowe, and I think what he's been through recently @ McQuaid is ridiculuous. Anybody with any sense knows he wasn't fired for saying the F-Word, sure he used vulgar language during practice and Games, so what, it's human nature. He was fired because of "the Friends of the Program" it happened with Basketball and now it happened with Baseball, some parent with deep pockets pulled some strings. Did it matter that BB just raised $8,000 running Camps? no it didn't matter, they conviently waited until after he'd raised the money to let him go. The next time the word "unethical" is thrown around the fingers need to be pointed right at McQuaid, the people running that school need to get their priorties straight. Bill Bowe is a fantastic Baseball Coach and some A.D out there needs to scoop him up.

[hilly]

I don't see any issue with a "Christian" school using it as a guideline though. Especially if they gave said coach an opportunity to adjust to a stricter following of it.

Many coaches nowadays actually reprimand and give students who swear some form of discipline.


some do. i wouldn't say many do.
as far as it being a christian school ... that could be a different case. i won't mention any names, but i could make a huge list of guys that don't care what the kids say.

[DrewVT6]

The truth is sometimes painful as evidenced by the responses to Bill Bowe's firing
as the McQuaid baseball coach. If one has no patience with kids you'd think he'd try something other than coaching or teaching.

That's a low blow to aim at someone's livelihood. People's demeanor on the sports fields can be completely different than their professional demeanor, for whatever reasons. I've seen Bobby Knights on the court become Gentle Bens in the classroom, many many times.

[rockandroll34]

Well said UNC Tarheels.
Right on the money!

[McQra9]

You mean the way the McQ AD scooped him up when he was fired from his baseball position at Canandaigua. "Good" coaches don't need to be "scooped up." Keep making excuses for him, that's fine. The good news is that he's out of Mcquaid.

[UNCTarheels]

That's your opinion and your entitled to it. The fact that his Baseball teams are constantly ranked top 10 in the state and competing for Sectional, Regional & State Titles year in and year out should tell you something, the fact that he's coached & Played Basketball in the Empire State games the last few years should also show that someone thinks he knows what he's talking about.

[DrewVT6]

This is going nowhere fast.

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