Marion lost

[lcaa5]

Sooooooo.......is marion the best wayne county's got because i believe they lost to CalMum. and calmum beat them convincingly. They cant be the best in wayne county or wayne isnt strong this year. If they are the strongest like what i have been hearing then it doesnt look good for wayne county comes sectional time

[St.LouisBlues]

They only lost by 13....had to be tough with only 7 guys going back to back nights.

[Giles]

Sooooooo.......is marion the best wayne county's got because i believe they lost to CalMum. and calmum beat them convincingly. They cant be the best in wayne county or wayne isnt strong this year. If they are the strongest like what i have been hearing then it doesnt look good for wayne county comes sectional time

They also beat the best team in the GR the night before. St.LouisBlues is right, back to back nights for a team with 7 guys is very difficult.

PLEASE keep saying Wayne County is weak... LCAA fans were saying the same things last year.

Marion is the strongest team just not the deepest. Come sectional time, they won't have to play back to back nights.

[Braves2410]

it seemed that they cared about looking good instead of playing to win

[lcaa5]

Yes but that is gonna be a problem come sectional time as well that they have just 7 guys. They are gonna be exhausted by the end of the year and teams are gonna be able to easily run past them int he later portions of the game. Thats why OA and Letchworth and Avon are better this year becuase they are deaper. I havent seen Gananda play this year but i would assume that they are better then Marion becuase they have more people that can play. Yes beating OA is impressive, and yes Sal is a fantastic player that should get recognition(very very very out of control, only problem). Marion just isnt deep enough and doesnt have enough weapons to beat OA, Letchworth, Avon adn possibly bloomfield come sectionals

[boobiemiles]

Sal has a very impressive ball slap and college layup.

[adAms08]

Why is it that certain Livingston County fans are so obsessed with trying to prove that Wayne County is weak? Let's not forget where all your crowing got you last year...

And yes, Marion is a strong team, although not terribly deep. But let's not forget that they can bring up JVs at Sectionals, if they need to give guys a break for a minute or two. But by the end of the season, barring any injuries, I guarantee they will be the most well-conditioned team out there. No room for slacking on a team of 7.

[BB315er]

They don't have to wait until Sectionals to bring up JV players. It might be wise to bring up a few kids during the season to help cut down on minutes of the seven, which will help to ""save their legs" for Sectionals.

[Giles]

Yes but that is gonna be a problem come sectional time as well that they have just 7 guys. They are gonna be exhausted by the end of the year and teams are gonna be able to easily run past them int he later portions of the game.

What team in the LCAA or GR even runs? Nobody presses, nobody has a fast break offense... those two leagues are slow it down, 2-3 zone, half court leagues.

Thats why OA and Letchworth and Avon are better this year becuase they are deaper. I havent seen Gananda play this year but i would assume that they are better then Marion becuase they have more people that can play.

Quality beats quantity in basketball. Sal is the best player in Wayne County and maybe all the small schools... he'll take games over like he has against Lyons and Oakfield.

Yes beating OA is impressive, and yes Sal is a fantastic player that should get recognition(very very very out of control, only problem).

I agree he's great. A lot of Livingston fans confuse playing out of control with being quick.

Marion just isnt deep enough and doesnt have enough weapons to beat OA, Letchworth, Avon adn possibly bloomfield come sectionals

Again depth doesn't matter as much in basketball... some teams only have 7 man rotations as it is. It just boggles my mind how you think teams need huge rotations to compete in Sectionals.

Gananda only had a seven man rotation last year and they did ok.. remember?

[St.LouisBlues]

Marion just isnt deep enough and doesnt have enough weapons to beat OA, Letchworth, Avon adn possibly bloomfield come sectionals

How can you say that Marion can't beat OA in sectionals? Didn't they beat them on a neutral court Friday? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

[going4broke]

What team in the LCAA or GR even runs? Nobody presses, nobody has a fast break offense... those two leagues are slow it down, 2-3 zone, half court leagues.



Quality beats quantity in basketball. Sal is the best player in Wayne County and maybe all the small schools... he'll take games over like he has against Lyons and Oakfield.



I agree he's great. A lot of Livingston fans confuse playing out of control with being quick.



Again depth doesn't matter as much in basketball... some teams only have 7 man rotations as it is. It just boggles my mind how you think teams need huge rotations to compete in Sectionals.

Gananda only had a seven man rotation last year and they did ok.. remember?



Sal is a decent player, but he certainly is not the best player in Wayne County.

[Giles]

Sal is a decent player, but he certainly is not the best player in Wayne County.

Kid averages over 25 pts a game... if he's not the best player... who is?

[boobiemiles]

This tournament has cleared up the whole debate. From now on the rankings shall go:

1. Livingston County
2. Wayne County
3. Genesee Region

[lcaa5]

Yes they play different styles and all but the end of the year, Marions players are gonna be very drained from a long season(I think that was why avon lost last year, got drained at the end and didnt play like they did at the begining og the season). They are gonna have to bring up players to get varsity experience before sectionals.

Sal is a fantastic player but he is an out of control player. He is very quick, has a good shot and can do alot without the ball. But he sometimes put his head down and makes bad choices with the ball. Honestly i cant see him doing that well against kesel or banach cause they will draw charges on him..

Giles you mentioned that quality beats quantity so ii will ask you this question. Right now, who do you think has the most talented team in this class because honestly, Marion has 2 maybe 3 good or quality players on their team against Avons 5 good players?

I think by the end of the year Gananda will definately be the best team in Wayne county cause they are deeper.

By the way boobie, couldnt say it better myself

[lcaa5]

also keep in mind that calmum is one of the weaker teams in their division in livingston county too. They lost to avon and letchworth

[adAms08]

They are gonna have to bring up players to get varsity experience before sectionals.

ER brought up JVs for Sectionals last year... they didn't play against OA or Gananda, but they all played in the C qualifier against Dundee and totally outplayed them. I think that several of them played in the game against Letchworth, too. They didn't have any varsity experience prior to that...

[lcaa5]

ER last year is totally different from marion this year. ER had a deep team that could give players breaks. and also they were incredibly good. Marion is nowhere near or will ever be near as good as ER teams last year. Danizio and Michele were better then Sal last year and they were on the same team. comparing marion and last years ER team is like comparing Football and Basbeall. There is no compariosn

[Giles]

Giles you mentioned that quality beats quantity so ii will ask you this question. Right now, who do you think has the most talented team in this class because honestly, Marion has 2 maybe 3 good or quality players on their team against Avons 5 good players?

I think by the end of the year Gananda will definately be the best team in Wayne county cause they are deeper.

By the way boobie, couldnt say it better myself

Great question about Marion and Avon... I'll take Marion's big 3 and Avon's starting five and rank them...

1.) Ianello
2.) McBride
3.) Leeuwen
4.) Phillips (I would put Kesel here but they don't use him enough)
5.) Banach
6.) Kesel
7.) Housel
8.) LeFevre

But I think Ianello has a big advantage over McBride because he handles the ball so much. Leeuwen and Phillips are eerily similar but I just like Leeuwen's shot a little better and think he's better defensively (even though, neither are that strong). Ianello faces plenty of tough defensive guards in Wayne County so I don't think Banach or Kesel are gonna give him anything he hasn't seen. I understand you think he plays out of control but he's still averaging 25+ a game which is rarely done in high school.

I've said it before... if I'm Avon and they need a shot at the end of the game, Kesel is getting the ball... he is a very very good player.

Boobie is right, that has to be the ranking right now..... but... I'll take Marion against any team in those leagues (except Avon) with one day off in between.

[Giles]

also keep in mind that calmum is one of the weaker teams in their division in livingston county too. They lost to avon and letchworth

I think matchups play a big part in this question..

Cal-Mum doesn't match well with Avon or Letchworth because they have no size and Avon and Letchworth match their physicality. Cal-Mum's toughness matches up GREAT with Marion as it wore them down.

[Braves2410]

Cal-Mum does have size with 3 guys around 6-4 or 6-5. Sal is quick ill give him that but he thinks he is way better than he is and takes way to many out of control shots. Against any team with any kind of team defense he will have a much harder time. Against CM he wasnt even the best kid on his own team. It also looked like Marion was "all flash and no cash."

[adAms08]

ER last year is totally different from marion this year. ER had a deep team that could give players breaks. and also they were incredibly good. Marion is nowhere near or will ever be near as good as ER teams last year. Danizio and Michele were better then Sal last year and they were on the same team. comparing marion and last years ER team is like comparing Football and Basbeall. There is no compariosn

I'm not comparing last year's ER team and Marion's current team - I am refuting your claim that JVs MUST be brought up before sectionals so they can get varsity experience. That's simply not true.

[lcaa5]

[QUOTE=Giles;84274]Great question about Marion and Avon... I'll take Marion's big 3 and Avon's starting five and rank them...

1.) Ianello
2.) McBride
3.) Leeuwen
4.) Phillips (I would put Kesel here but they don't use him enough)
5.) Banach
6.) Kesel
7.) Housel
8.) LeFevre

If i had to rank them i would have it a little different. If you have seen Avon play this year i think you would see this a little different. This is my opionion

1) definately ianello- great player dominates and carries team
2) Housel- been playing great, best rebounder in class, incredibly improved
3) Phillips- better scorer then Leeuwen, play post and outside, Go to guy
4) Leeuwen- Best shot in bracket
5) Kesel- i dont think hes not used enough, plays like he doesnt care
6) Banach- playing well but forces many shots and makes stupid mistakes
7) McBride- Not the player he was last year, not dominating and poor FT
8) LeFevre- Not the best post player, hes just big and bulky, bully

I think right now i would pick avon over most teams because they have better post player. They are bigger down low then every team and i think if they attack the offensive glass they will win many games this year

[lcaa5]

I think Garret isnt their go to guy cause he doesnt want the ball in that situation. When they played letchworth last year and calmum in the final seconds he quickly gave up the ball cause hes not a clutch player. In my experiencs Phillips is the go to guy......hes hit 2 game winners and is a good free throw shooter

[hornets10]

LeFevre is young, hes only a sophomore, give him time

[mkball]

marion has more character then any team in there sectional bracket. down 11 with 1 minute to go in the half against lyons they cut the lead to one. down 15 against cal-mum they cut it to one.down 18 agaginst oakfield and they go on a 29-7 run.u give marion a days break and they can beat anyone in class c.

[Bravesfan08]

marion has more character then any team in there sectional bracket. down 11 with 1 minute to go in the half against lyons they cut the lead to one. down 15 against cal-mum they cut it to one.down 18 agaginst oakfield and they go on a 29-7 run.u give marion a days break and they can beat anyone in class c.
Have you seen Avon play?? They can go 10 deep easily with almost no drop-off. That will kill a team like Marion who has 7 players, I don't care how good they are.

[Bravesfan08]

Well maybe not "kill", but it will definitely be a problem for Marion

[Giles]

Have you seen Avon play?? They can go 10 deep easily with almost no drop-off. That will kill a team like Marion who has 7 players, I don't care how good they are.

What does that have to do with character? Did you read his post?

[LivingstonCNTYfan]

Have you seen Avon play?? They can go 10 deep easily with almost no drop-off. That will kill a team like Marion who has 7 players, I don't care how good they are.

That is a pretty bold statement...10 deep with no drop off? I have seen them play and I do not agree with that. Some of the players coming off the bench are playing uncomfortable. I see them out there acting like they are afraid or are more worried about there shirts being tucked in or there shorts being to short. I will admit the starting five for Avon is very good, but the bench in my opinion is average at best.

[LivingstonCNTYfan]

I have seen Marion play this year and they could give Avon a very good run.

[Bravesfan08]

What does that have to do with character? Did you read his post?
Did you read the whole post because at the very end it says "give Marion a days break and they can beat anyone in class C". Thats what I was commenting on.

[Bravesfan08]

That is a pretty bold statement...10 deep with no drop off? I have seen them play and I do not agree with that. Some of the players coming off the bench are playing uncomfortable. I see them out there acting like they are afraid or are more worried about there shirts being tucked in or there shorts being to short. I will admit the starting five for Avon is very good, but the bench in my opinion is average at best.
I said "almost no drop off". obviously there is going to be a some drop off when a teams bench comes in and I'm just saying in my opinon they have a very strong bench and that is obviously not Marion's strong point. By the time Avon gets to sectionals all of those kids coming off the bench will have even more experiance and they will be ready to go.

[lcaa5]

I actually think besides upright, their bench Avons bench isnt bery strong. I think sometimes Passerall is a liability ou there as he turns the ball over too much and might even be more sloppy then sal is. He looks as though he doesnt want to control the ball and hes their back up pt gaurd.

Barrett is either decent or terrible. He seems as though he doesnt know what he is doin out there and he doesnt really care whats going on. Passerall and Max are prolly out their just to play Defense which i will give them props for that but even when they make stops they turn the ball over on the other end.

The only real good and reliable player on that bench is Upright. He can score, reebound and play D. He does have some things to work on sure, such as Post Moves and strength. I dont really understand how max goes in before him.

The one player tha needs to get more plying time is the campbell kid. Yes he has put up numbers against scrubs but he will be relieed on next year for scoring and he adds a good shooter to the lineup. In my opinion, Campbell and Upright should be relied on the bench

[going4broke]

Nobody in Class CC has a deep bench — nobody.
But Avon's top five are waaaayyyyy better than everyone else's.
Avon would beat Marion by 25 and Oakfield by at least 20.
O-A has one player whose tough in the post Seward and they have average guard play at best.
The bottom line is this there's no way possible Avon loses to either Marion or O-A.
If Sal Ianello got basically shut down by Cal-Mum's defense, how many do you think he'll get against Avon's or Letchworth's for that matter...

[distancerulz]

So is Gananda a match for any of the top C teams?
Just seems like most people on this site think wayne county is so weak.

[adAms08]

So is Gananda a match for any of the top C teams?
Just seems like most people on this site think wayne county is so weak.

They thought the same thing last year.

I do think that Avon is probably the strongest in the class at the moment, but all these people who think that no one will give them any competition are the same ones who had to eat a lot of their words last year...

Gananda is a good team, but Wayne County isn't as cut and dry as it was last year. There are a couple of teams that are playing surprisingly well right now. Lots of season left, it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

[blackanorange2005]

Wayne county is way down this year. Marion is the best team, they will may not lose in wayne county this year.
Gananda is over rated. Alot of people on this sight asy they are deep. The bench is not that good!! The starters aren't that good.

My prediction: Gananda ends the season with a 500 record. They will not get past the 2nd round of the sectionals...

No teams in Wayne county make it to the semi's, not even Marion.

Sorry Sal.

[lcaa5]

I think that wayne county is definately down this year. Last year Gananda and ER were very good but this year there isnt any fire power like last year. Thats why i give avon the edge this year in sectionals becuase unlike last year, their isnt teams that can matchup with them. Maybe letchworth....maybe. Last year Gananda was an unbelieveable matchup to them with Dotterer on Phillips, stearns on housel and for god sake Welker made McBride look foolish. This year there isnt a team in their bracket that matches up size wise or talent wise. If you can run and make many 3s, that is prolly the only way you can beat them. I just dont see a team really doing that to them

[distancerulz]

Wayne county is way down this year. Marion is the best team, they will may not lose in wayne county this year.
Gananda is over rated. Alot of people on this sight asy they are deep. The bench is not that good!! The starters aren't that good.

My prediction: Gananda ends the season with a 500 record. They will not get past the 2nd round of the sectionals...

No teams in Wayne county make it to the semi's, not even Marion.

Sorry Sal.

So if Gananda has a 500 record... how many and which wayne county teams will have above a 500 record? Will ER break 500? I guess that I don't quite agree with your prediction..

[distancerulz]

I don't like it when people say that there will be no competition in the bracket. There is a long way to go and there are always surprises especially come sectionals. Will Avon cruise to a sectional title and beat every opponent by 15 points or more? Maybe, but I doubt it.

[adAms08]

I don't like it when people say that there will be no competition in the bracket. There is a long way to go and there are always surprises especially come sectionals. Will Avon cruise to a sectional title and beat every opponent by 15 points or more? Maybe, but I doubt it.

Exactly.

[Bravesfan08]

I think that wayne county is definately down this year. Last year Gananda and ER were very good but this year there isnt any fire power like last year. Thats why i give avon the edge this year in sectionals becuase unlike last year, their isnt teams that can matchup with them. Maybe letchworth....maybe. Last year Gananda was an unbelieveable matchup to them with Dotterer on Phillips, stearns on housel and for god sake Welker made McBride look foolish. This year there isnt a team in their bracket that matches up size wise or talent wise. If you can run and make many 3s, that is prolly the only way you can beat them. I just dont see a team really doing that to them
I totally agree

[Giles]

Fuel to the fire....

[sal iannello]

Wayne county is way down this year. Marion is the best team, they will may not lose in wayne county this year.
Gananda is over rated. Alot of people on this sight asy they are deep. The bench is not that good!! The starters aren't that good.

My prediction: Gananda ends the season with a 500 record. They will not get past the 2nd round of the sectionals...

No teams in Wayne county make it to the semi's, not even Marion.

Sorry Sal.







haha why u say sorry sal? im not all of marion but i dont agree with your prediction you cant judge a team on the one game

[lcaa5]

well do u know what giles i am stating an opinion.

[Giles]

well do u know what giles i am stating an opinion.

I'm not saying you can't post your opinion. It's just funny that people were saying the same thing last year.

[going4broke]

Nobody is trying to dis the Wayne County League. They have proven themselves time and time again to be very tough.
But this year that league is WAYYYYYY down. Gananda losing to Honeoye last night is another example. Yes, Marion beat O-A, but then got whipped by Cal-Mum, a fourth place Livingston Division 2 team.
Avon might not have a deep bench, but their top six are very good and should be able to beat anyone in their class this year by 15 on an off night. Letchworth already whipped ER, and we all know the Bombers are down this year.
This is just one of those years when Wayne County is going to have to watch from the sidelines when the sectional finals take place.

[LivingstonCNTYfan]

There is still ALOT OF SEASON left to go. To say Wayne county will be watching from the sideleines even before the end of the season or the begining of sectionals is a bold statement.

[Giles]

Nobody is trying to dis the Wayne County League. They have proven themselves time and time again to be very tough.
But this year that league is WAYYYYYY down. Gananda losing to Honeoye last night is another example. Yes, Marion beat O-A, but then got whipped by Cal-Mum, a fourth place Livingston Division 2 team.
Avon might not have a deep bench, but their top six are very good and should be able to beat anyone in their class this year by 15 on an off night. Letchworth already whipped ER, and we all know the Bombers are down this year.
This is just one of those years when Wayne County is going to have to watch from the sidelines when the sectional finals take place.

I'm not offended or think anyone is dissing Wayne County. But comments like "the league is WAYYYYYY down" and "Wayne County is going to have to watch from the sidelines when the sectional finals take place" sound eerily familiar to what people were saying last year at this time. Last year at this time NOBODY thought Gananda was good enough to go to the finals and even though ER hadn't lost to a Section V team all year people said they couldn't win Sectionals.

This year's ER team is eerily similar to last year's Gananda team... (1) coming off a Sectional title, (2) lost their talented starting backcourt and a couple of other key guys, (3) have two good big guys returning (4) young backcourt with little Varsity experience.... they are going to be better in February and their style of play and matchup zone will win them one or two Sectional games.

[Giles]

If you can run and make many 3s, that is prolly the only way you can beat them. I just dont see a team really doing that to them

BINGO.... here's some teams who by year's end might be able to do that... Oakfield, Campbell, ER, Gananda. And I haven't mentioned the best team in Wayne County.. Marion.

It's going to be a fun year.

[Braves2410]

Get over last year Giles really.

[Giles]

Get over last year Giles really.

I'm over it... just drawing parallels. But I can understand why you want to black out last year. It must have been frustrating.

[Bravesfan08]

I'm over it... just drawing parallels. But I can understand why you want to black out last year. It must have been frustrating.
Obviously it was frustrating! But do you really have to throw that that little comment in there because to me it seems like you just want to keep bringing it up and rubbing it in that we lost. Honestly your coming off as a complete jerk.

Also you seem to get pretty upset when anyone says Wayne County is down this year. Everybody knows what they did last year and that overall its a good league that might be down this year. Its not like its just Avon people saying it, or LCAA people, its EVERYONE but you.

By the way i will admit that the LCAA (at least from what I've seen) is down this year too. (its not that hard to admit it)

[adAms08]

Making such bold statements about how Avon can beat anyone by 15 on an off night and that Wayne County is going to be watching from the sidelines in the end is just cocky and potentially sets you up for total embarrassment. I'm sure that there have got to be some Avon fans out there who would cringe to hear you saying that. Yeah, they're a good team, and yes, at the moment Wayne County is "down" from last year - but if Avon's team overlooks opponents the way some of you fans do they are probably going to get their butts handed to them at some point this season.

[Giles]

Obviously it was frustrating! But do you really have to throw that that little comment in there because to me it seems like you just want to keep bringing it up and rubbing it in that we lost. Honestly your coming off as a complete jerk.

That is not my intention. I just thought it was pertinent to your post. Apologies.

Also you seem to get pretty upset when anyone says Wayne County is down this year.

Don't think of me as angry when I'm responding to posts about Wayne County being down. Picture me shaking my head and snickering.

Everybody knows what they did last year and that overall its a good league that might be down this year.

Exact same thing was said last year.

Its not like its just Avon people saying it, or LCAA people, its EVERYONE but you.

Just like last year.

By the way i will admit that the LCAA (at least from what I've seen) is down this year too. (its not that hard to admit it)

It's not that I don't want to admit Wayne County is down. My point is others or as you say EVERYONE was saying the same thing last year and they turned out to be wrong.

[Bravesfan08]

Apology accepted....Well, I still think Avon will win sectionals this year, and you still have doubts. Were just going to have to wait and see who is right

[LivingstonCNTYfan]

We all will just have to agree to disagree.

[coachinbball]

Yes but that is gonna be a problem come sectional time as well that they have just 7 guys. They are gonna be exhausted by the end of the year and teams are gonna be able to easily run past them int he later portions of the game. Thats why OA and Letchworth and Avon are better this year becuase they are deaper. I havent seen Gananda play this year but i would assume that they are better then Marion becuase they have more people that can play. Yes beating OA is impressive, and yes Sal is a fantastic player that should get recognition(very very very out of control, only problem). Marion just isnt deep enough and doesnt have enough weapons to beat OA, Letchworth, Avon adn possibly bloomfield come sectionals

Since when do HS school teams go much beyond 7 or 8 playing meaningful minutes??? Cal-Mum is good. Give them their due. Marion will be fine.

[blackanorange2005]

Obviously it was frustrating! But do you really have to throw that that little comment in there because to me it seems like you just want to keep bringing it up and rubbing it in that we lost. Honestly your coming off as a complete jerk.

Also you seem to get pretty upset when anyone says Wayne County is down this year. Everybody knows what they did last year and that overall its a good league that might be down this year. Its not like its just Avon people saying it, or LCAA people, its EVERYONE but you.

By the way i will admit that the LCAA (at least from what I've seen) is down this year too. (its not that hard to admit it)

Giles,
I'm beginning to agree with Bravesfan08. You keep bringing up last year. Its ooooover. Lets move on. Stop rubbing it in. Teams in Wayne county are not doing very well. The county is down. Stop sticking up Wayne county so much, you are starting to make us look bad.

Why don't you like LCAA so much?

By the way you always seem so angry? Need so therapy?:)lol

Maybe you can find a girlfriend, so you won't spend so much time on the computer:)lol

[Section5sportsguy]

Calm down boys, no personal attacks.

[blackanorange2005]

Its just a joke!! Sorry.

[Giles]

Giles,
I'm beginning to agree with Bravesfan08. You keep bringing up last year. Its ooooover. Lets move on. Stop rubbing it in. Teams in Wayne county are not doing very well. The county is down. Stop sticking up Wayne county so much, you are starting to make us look bad.

Why don't you like LCAA so much?

By the way you always seem so angry? Need so therapy?:)lol

Maybe you can find a girlfriend, so you won't spend so much time on the computer:)lol

I'm not rubbing it in... I don't dislike the LCAA... I'm not angry...

For the umpteenth time, I'm pointing out that people were saying the same thing about Wayne County last year... it's interesting.

[hardwoodballer]

I'm not offended or think anyone is dissing Wayne County. But comments like "the league is WAYYYYYY down" and "Wayne County is going to have to watch from the sidelines when the sectional finals take place" sound eerily familiar to what people were saying last year at this time. Last year at this time NOBODY thought Gananda was good enough to go to the finals and even though ER hadn't lost to a Section V team all year people said they couldn't win Sectionals.

This year's ER team is eerily similar to last year's Gananda team... (1) coming off a Sectional title, (2) lost their talented starting backcourt and a couple of other key guys, (3) have two good big guys returning (4) young backcourt with little Varsity experience.... they are going to be better in February and their style of play and matchup zone will win them one or two Sectional games.

1. No doubt Livingston County is the best right Now. Seems our two best Avon & Letchworth are potent.

2. Oakfield Alabama should be right there, ER almost LOST to them last year
but they do have a weak schedule.

3. Wayne County teams always power-up in Feb, beware!

Although Marion is the acknowledged leader, remember that Gananda beat ER without the Boyer kid and their newcomer, Mark Price. ER has been to finals 3 of the last 4 years, I think they know what they are doing and will be tough. In their 5-9 pt losses to Letchworth & Gananda they came back strong and have shown a refuse to lose type mentality. Please understand, I'm not saying they are under rated, but keep them on your radar.

[sectionVHYPE]

not saying the summer basketball is everything but I think avon killed ER at RIT if that is any indicator of how they are playing, who knows just throwing it out there

[sectionVHYPE]

I'm not rubbing it in... I don't dislike the LCAA... I'm not angry...

For the umpteenth time, I'm pointing out that people were saying the same thing about Wayne County last year... it's interesting.

and yes I agree with you, last year it was the same crap "livingston county sucks...wayne sucks" back and forth so who's to say its not just some more sectionVhype

[lcaa5]

Avon killed ER in the RIT tourny in the championship game yes.............does that mean anything this year NO[/B. Does the game against Gananda mean anything this year [B]NO. SO forget about those two games.........The only thing you could maybe draw parrallels to is that the year ER won the sectionals, they won the RIT tourny (that was against Avon as a matter of fact).

[sectionVHYPE]

Avon killed ER in the RIT tourny in the championship game yes.............does that mean anything this year NO[/B. Does the game against Gananda mean anything this year [B]NO. SO forget about those two games.........The only thing you could maybe draw parrallels to is that the year ER won the sectionals, they won the RIT tourny (that was against Avon as a matter of fact).

okay pinkpowerranger

[thetreeoflife8]

i think bring up last year is important.. they say history repeats itself and i think its going to agian this year... :)

[eagle71]

Yes but that is gonna be a problem come sectional time as well that they have just 7 guys. They are gonna be exhausted by the end of the year and teams are gonna be able to easily run past them int he later portions of the game. Thats why OA and Letchworth and Avon are better this year becuase they are deaper. I havent seen Gananda play this year but i would assume that they are better then Marion becuase they have more people that can play. Yes beating OA is impressive, and yes Sal is a fantastic player that should get recognition(very very very out of control, only problem). Marion just isnt deep enough and doesnt have enough weapons to beat OA, Letchworth, Avon adn possibly bloomfield come sectionals
Marion has 3 very good players-that can match up to anybody-it won't be a surprise to see the advance come sectional time

[thetreeoflife8]

3 players isn't enough for sectionals. All you have to do is double team them and full court pressure to make them tired.

[distancerulz]

3 players isn't enough for sectionals. All you have to do is double team them and full court pressure to make them tired.

They should advance though, not win it all. That is all that I think he is trying to say. Plus you can't double every player??? I would say most teams are lucky to have 2 good players with a decent supporting cast. Most teams in the small school divisions only need this to make it to the semi's.

[adAms08]

I would say most teams are lucky to have 2 good players with a decent supporting cast. Most teams in the small school divisions only need this to make it to the semi's.

I agree. Actually, ER won it all last year with 2 great players and a decent-but-not-great supporting crew.

[lcaa5]

Yes Marion does have three fantastic player, avon has 5 in my opinion. Marion can be very dangerous cause those three are good, but after that, they have nothing. I see ER winning the Wayne County cause they are deeper. I am starting to get a little scared about ER, they are a hell of a team and could u imagine if they could find more consistent scoring, they will be a very very veyr tough team come sectional time

[distancerulz]

Yes Marion does have three fantastic player, avon has 5 in my opinion. Marion can be very dangerous cause those three are good, but after that, they have nothing. I see ER winning the Wayne County cause they are deeper. I am starting to get a little scared about ER, they are a hell of a team and could u imagine if they could find more consistent scoring, they will be a very very veyr tough team come sectional time

Totally agree.....