Moderator Consistency

[OldSchool78]

I think the moderators (Drew?) needs to take another look at the ban imposed by them on Lukelakers. Other posters have said more derogatory and inflamatory things about people than Lukelakers did. I have read posts where there were pot shots taken at people because of where they live. I have seen others taken for what the person does for a living. Those posters went on to continue to post without any infractions against them. Lukelakers was posting what he knew to be the truth and had facts to back it up. For that he was banned!!! For that he should be given a pat on the back. He is not hiding behind a screen name. You can contact him anytime.

To the moderators. I think you need to be a bit more consistent wheen enforcing your posting morals on somebody. I don't think it's fair nor do I think it's right that you can impose your will on somebody for speaking the truth, yet let go personal attacks. I ask you to lift the ban on Lukelakers. My opinion.

[OldSchool78]

Lukelakers

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I think the moderators (Drew?) needs to take another look at the ban imposed by them on Lukelakers. Other posters have said more derogatory and inflamatory things about people than Lukelakers did. I have read posts where there were pot shots taken at people because of where they live. I have seen others taken for what the person does for a living. Those posters went on to continue to post without any infractions against them. Lukelakers was posting what he knew to be the truth and had facts to back it up. For that he was banned!!! For that he should be given a pat on the back. He is not hiding behind a screen name. You can contact him anytime.

To the moderators. I think you need to be a bit more consistent wheen enforcing your posting morals on somebody. I don't think it's fair nor do I think it's right that you can impose your will on somebody for speaking the truth, yet let go personal attacks. I ask you to lift the ban on Lukelakers. My opinion.

[vikingfan]

They banned lukelakers??? For what?? Did he upset some hometown moderator?

[vikingfan]

Hopefully the decision to ban him is done by made by more than one moderator?

[secvparent]

In my opinion Luke is one of the most informative posters on the website. He has great conections and shares his knowledge about sports with all of us. Granted he is very opinionated, but isn't that what this is for. All of us are intitled to our opinion, Luke just stands by his. Banning him is a shame.

[cornellalum]

I second this

[Section5sportsguy]

He probably said something bad about untouchable Finney.

[TurnTwo]

Hopefully the decision to ban him is done by made by more than one moderator?

We all hold the power to ban. We only consult each other on rare occasions when it comes to lengthy bans. Banning is a last resort in most cases.

With that said, this is the first I've heard of the ban and I'm surprised by it. However, I know Drew, UNC and Boobie to be reasonable people and I'm sure whoever imposed the ban's actions are justified.

[BTownClown99]

Where did he post?

Two of my friends also just got infractions but their post was deleted so just wondering if his is still up.

[garnet21w]

In my opinion Luke is one of the most informative posters on the website. He has great conections and shares his knowledge about sports with all of us. Granted he is very opinionated, but isn't that what this is for. All of us are intitled to our opinion, Luke just stands by his. Banning him is a shame.

I completely agree, Lukelakers was banned for "Hijacking a thread" in the hillarious(finneyv Arkport) thread

[BTownClown99]

We all hold the power to ban. We only consult each other on rare occasions when it comes to lengthy bans. Banning is a last resort in most cases.

With that said, this is the first I've heard of the ban and I'm surprised by it. However, I know Drew, UNC and Boobie to be reasonable people and I'm sure whoever imposed the ban's actions are justified.

How much talk went into 2008 banning? Or was that just a no brainer :p

[garnet21w]

He probably said something bad about untouchable Finney.

He was banned for personal attacks in the hillarious(finney v. arkport) thread

[garnet21w]

He probably said something bad about untouchable Finney.

He was banned for "hijacking a thread" in the hillarious(finney v. arkport) thread

I got a PM from him that said that.

[boobiemiles]

How much talk went into 2008 banning? Or was that just a no brainer :p
Neither TurnTwo not myself were moderators at the time of the 2008 banning.

[BTownClown99]

He was banned for "hijacking a thread" in the hillarious(finney v. arkport) thread

I got a PM from him that said that.

Has he had infractions before? Because after 3 you get banned so maybe this was just number 3?

[BTownClown99]

Neither TurnTwo not myself were moderators at the time of the 2008 banning.

Oh that's right, you were busy working on becoming number one poster lol

[boobiemiles]

At that point I was just an Unofficial Junior Mod lol.

I didn't become one until after Hilly was gone.

[garnet21w]

what was the 2008 banning?

[BTownClown99]

At that point I was just an Unofficial Junior Mod lol.

I didn't become one until after Hilly was gone.

Haha what IS an unofficial junior mod? Can you even do anything cool?

*Besides invisible words


what was the 2008 banning?

I posted the story in the Clown Room.

http://sectionv.talksback.com/showthread.php?t=6385&page=6

[boobiemiles]

Haha what IS an unofficial junior mod? Can you even do anything cool?

*Besides invisible words




I posted the story in the Clown Room.

http://sectionv.talksback.com/showthread.php?t=6385&page=6
Haha, not a thing.

I could recommend when a member would start to get out of line late at night when none of the mod's were online.

Other than that I was just the damage control guy. (Notice the threads started soon after your departure.)

[ProudestMonkey27]

Free Luke... This guy is a main figure in all fingerlakes sports programs. He is at times on the edge, but that is because he is passionate about what he does. He seems to take his job, knowlege of sports and social issues very seriously. His passion is approached with dry humor sometimes, but I think some issues need this, to take away from the sting of reality.
Everyone knows who this man is on here because he makes it known. This is more than I can say for about 90% + of the people who use this site. Because of his, being up front, anyone can contact him personally for any rant he makes.
The talks back site, in my opinion, takes a historic step back without the iconic presence of Luke Day:cool:

[BTownClown99]

Haha, not a thing.

I could recommend when a member would start to get out of line late at night when none of the mod's were online.

Other than that I was just the damage control guy. (Notice the threads started soon after your departure.)

Ha ya I figured that was it. And ya I noticed the general discussion. Me and Striker basically founded that ha.

[BTownClown99]

Well the thread/post was deleted because that link didn't work. But I guess it must have just been old things building up? The infraction/banning system is a little scewed but generally it is fair. This might not be the case, but I can't tell since the post is gone.

[SectionVsportsfan]

tat was posted in the other thread, i think that is what is the problem. i dont see the problem

[ProudestMonkey27]

This can't be the problem. It better not be the problem at least. I have read some of these posts that luke speaks of. He is an intelligent man that had some real things to say about a topic that is very real and unfortunate. This post does nothing but reiterate the tragic fact that, only certain people are allowed to say certain things which walk a line on talks back.

[TopShelf]

The mods do the best job they can. It's not like they're paid for the things they do. This is all volunteer work that they enjoy, and do to keep these boards up and running.

[ProudestMonkey27]

Someone is choosing to leave things out again:(
Where did that long discussion go and where did my other post go?

[UNCTarheels]

Someone is choosing to leave things out again:(
Where did that long discussion go and where did my other post go?

Please don't post private messages that people send you, that's why they're called Private Messages! If they wanted everybody on here to read it they would have posted it in the public forum!

[ProudestMonkey27]

Love the avitar... sorry bout that. all it said on lukes end was that a lot of people have said nice things about him and thanks for the support

[UNCTarheels]

Love the avitar... sorry bout that. all it said on lukes end was that a lot of people have said nice things about him and thanks for the support

I read it, either way please don't post Private messages no matter what they say, especially if you don't have the person who wrote it's permission.

[ProudestMonkey27]

Good idea... you are right...Luke is prety shy on this site.:)maybe Luke didn't want the truth out there. Sorry luke:)

[VFan05]

I'm very disapointed that you chose to close the thread which included a discussion about todays inauguration because you are a "proud republican" and today is a "sad day" for you. You also stated that this is a sports site and that there's no room for "depressing talk about politics." First of all, if that's the case, why is there an off topic/general discussion forum on this site? If the theme of the thread was about what a great job President Bush did, or praised a republican would you still have closed the thread? Judging by the reasons you gave for closing that thread, I think not. Secondly, does your pride in being a republican outweigh your pride in being an American? Today should be a day in which we drop the pride of a democrat or repbulican winning or losing an election and come together under the pride of being citizens of a country which holds freedom and justice for all in its highest value.

[UNCTarheels]

I'm very disapointed that you chose to close the thread which included a discussion about todays inauguration because you are a "proud republican" and today is a "sad day" for you. You also stated that this is a sports site and that there's no room for "depressing talk about politics." First of all, if that's the case, why is there an off topic/general discussion forum on this site? If the theme of the thread was about what a great job President Bush did, or praised a republican would you still have closed the thread? Judging by the reasons you gave for closing that thread, I think not. Secondly, does your pride in being a republican outweigh your pride in being an American? Today should be a day in which we drop the pride of a democrat or repbulican winning or losing an election and come together under the pride of being citizens of a country which holds freedom and justice for all in its highest value.

The name of this site is http://sectionv.talksback.com this is not a political forum or message board if you want to talk politics go find a political message board they're out there. the reason the Off topic/general disscussion forum was created was for other sports like Golf, NCAA Basketball, Baseball & NFl Football not for politics. As a Board Member of this site and one of the guys in charge it is my right to close any thread I want to If I have good reason and I do. I do not want politics discussed on my website, if you disagree with that I'm sorry that you feel that way. As for your question "does your pride in being a republican outweigh your pride in being an American?" that is a ridiculous question to ask and I'm not going to dignify that with a response

[DrewVT6]

The name of this site is http://sectionv.talksback.com this is not a political forum or message board if you want to talk politics go find a political message board they're out there. the reason the Off topic/general disscussion forum was created was for other sports like Golf, NCAA Basketball, Baseball & NFl Football not for politics. As a Board Member of this site and one of the guys in charge it is my right to close any thread I want to If I have good reason and I do. I do not want politics discussed on my website, if you disagree with that I'm sorry that you feel that way. As for your question "does your pride in being a republican outweigh your pride in being an American?" that is a ridiculous question to ask and I'm not going to dignify that with a response

I think we'll add that into the user guidelines, too. It's been an unwritten rule of sorts forever. I can talk politics anywhere and everywhere I go all day long. This place is a getaway.

[VFan05]

The name of this site is http://sectionv.talksback.com this is not a political forum or message board if you want to talk politics go find a political message board they're out there. the reason the Off topic/general disscussion forum was created was for other sports like Golf, NCAA Basketball, Baseball & NFl Football not for politics. As a Board Member of this site and one of the guys in charge it is my right to close any thread I want to If I have good reason and I do. I do not want politics discussed on my website, if you disagree with that I'm sorry that you feel that way. As for your question "does your pride in being a republican outweigh your pride in being an American?" that is a ridiculous question to ask and I'm not going to dignify that with a response


The problem I have with you closing that thread isn't because I wanted to take part in the discussion. I have a problem with you closing the thread because it clashed with your personal beliefs. I could care less if there are other forums to discuss politics, but nowhere on the main page of the off topic/general discussion section does it say "no political conversation." It says, "Discussions about topics NOT related to Section V Sports." I see threads discussing video games and movie quotes, both of which have nothing to do with sports.

I would have no problem with you closing a thread and saying it was because you wanted to keep political conversation off of this site, but that's not what you did. You gave the implication that you were closing the thread because you disagreed with the politics of the new president. As a mod I would like to believe you would keep your personal views out of the reasoning of closing a discussion as long as that discussion was appropriate.

[UNCTarheels]

Ok you bring up a good point, As Drew stated above two things we try to stay away from on here, Politics & Relgion those are two Taboo topics. I shouldn't have made the remarks I did and just closed the thread. That's my mistake, there will be an addition to the guidlines the next time you check them I assure you.

[BTownClown99]

Now being one who rarely aupports the mods I have to say I agree to close the politics thread. And not because all we should be talking about is sports.

The fact is that politics and religion are two things that a lot of people are going to disagree with and be very passionate about. And no matter what, if there is one person with a different idea, then an argument is going to break out.

So it is not about the fact that we are generally keeping this an "all sports page" but the fact that political debates can get nasty and they will no doubt bring out the worst in us.

[TurnTwo]

Now being one who rarely aupports the mods I have to say I agree to close the politics thread. And not because all we should be talking about is sports.

The fact is that politics and religion are two things that a lot of people are going to disagree with and be very passionate about. And no matter what, if there is one person with a different idea, then an argument is going to break out.

So it is not about the fact that we are generally keeping this an "all sports page" but the fact that political debates can get nasty and they will no doubt bring out the worst in us.

Well said.

[VFan05]

Ok you bring up a good point, As Drew stated above two things we try to stay away from on here, Politics & Relgion those are two Taboo topics. I shouldn't have made the remarks I did and just closed the thread. That's my mistake, there will be an addition to the guidlines the next time you check them I assure you.


Great, and I do agree with you and BTown about these two topics. Better left for other sites. I enjoy this site and its wide range of opinions and will continue to visit it on a daily basis.

[UNCTarheels]

Great, and I do agree with you and BTown about these two topics. Better left for other sites. I enjoy this site and its wide range of opinions and will continue to visit it on a daily basis.

Thanks for supporting the site

[OldSchool78]

Ok you bring up a good point, As Drew stated above two things we try to stay away from on here, Politics & Relgion those are two Taboo topics. I shouldn't have made the remarks I did and just closed the thread. That's my mistake, there will be an addition to the guidlines the next time you check them I assure you.

Way to "man-up" if you will. You earn respect from everybody. It takes a big man to say what you did.

[BTownClown99]

Way to "man-up" if you will. You earn respect from everybody. It takes a big man to say what you did.

UNC is a pretty fair guy I'd say.

[UNCTarheels]

Way to "man-up" if you will. You earn respect from everybody. It takes a big man to say what you did.

I try to do my best

[flwball11]

Free Luke!

[BTownClown99]

Free Luke!

How long exactly is he banned?

[TurnTwo]

How long exactly is he banned?

We're still dealing with it.

[BTownClown99]

We're still dealing with it.

Was it really that bad?

Just curious. PM me if you want

[secfivesports]

The name of this site is http://sectionv.talksback.com this is not a political forum or message board if you want to talk politics go find a political message board they're out there. the reason the Off topic/general disscussion forum was created was for other sports like Golf, NCAA Basketball, Baseball & NFl Football not for politics. As a Board Member of this site and one of the guys in charge it is my right to close any thread I want to If I have good reason and I do. I do not want politics discussed on my website, if you disagree with that I'm sorry that you feel that way. As for your question "does your pride in being a republican outweigh your pride in being an American?" that is a ridiculous question to ask and I'm not going to dignify that with a response

Why don't you have a professional sports forum and then an off topic/general forum. And how do you justify the XBox thread?

[BTownClown99]

Why don't you have a professional sports forum and then an off topic/general forum. And how do you justify the XBox thread?

Like said before, it's about the taboo subjects of religion and politics.

[JohnBlevinsFan]

Why don't you have a professional sports forum and then an off topic/general forum. And how do you justify the XBox thread?

Get over it, everything is fine now. apologies were made about it so stop trying to stir the pot.

Why can't we all be friends?

[greeceman]

My only post on the poltical issue has nothing to do with party lines but the fact that today is a great day because it shows regardless of the color of your skin you can someday be president .Good luck to him in turning this country back around.

[JohnBlevinsFan]

My only post on the poltical issue has nothing to do with party lines but the fact that today is a great day because it shows regardless of the color of your skin you can someday be president .Good luck to him in turning this country back around.

Amen. At the end of the day we have to appreciate being American and appreciate that we aren't members of the nation up north :rolleyes:

[sectionvguy1]

I forget to check the "Off Topic" section for 1 day and next thing you know... Sounds like there are a number of good points here? Sounds like something I posted a week ago. Again its your site boys, but you better clear about the direction you want it to go. Do you want to let the 1st amendment live or do you want to censor the things you don't agree with? I think you have to look at the big picture, if all these people think that thier views are being censored doesn't that say something?

great post oldschool!

[sectionvguy1]

If you are going to ban Luke, then better start to ban the Metcalf info as well.

[BTownClown99]

Are you in disagreement because of the closing of the inaguration thread? Or the banning of Luke?

[garnet21w]

The name of this site is http://sectionv.talksback.com this is not a political forum or message board if you want to talk politics go find a political message board they're out there. the reason the Off topic/general disscussion forum was created was for other sports like Golf, NCAA Basketball, Baseball & NFl Football not for politics. As a Board Member of this site and one of the guys in charge it is my right to close any thread I want to If I have good reason and I do. I do not want politics discussed on my website, if you disagree with that I'm sorry that you feel that way. As for your question "does your pride in being a republican outweigh your pride in being an American?" that is a ridiculous question to ask and I'm not going to dignify that with a response

So why, may I ask, does an X-box thread exist? Doesn't seem to apply to those sports/topics:confused::confused:

[BTownClown99]

So why, may I ask, does an X-box thread exist? Doesn't seem to apply to those sports/topics:confused::confused:

Mods just don't want politics talked about. As you can see, it causes problems.

[Section5sportsguy]

So why, may I ask, does an X-box thread exist? Doesn't seem to apply to those sports/topics:confused::confused:

UNC is just understandably mad about the election, and I symphasize with him.

[boobiemiles]

So why, may I ask, does an X-box thread exist? Doesn't seem to apply to those sports/topics:confused::confused:Ok you bring up a good point, As Drew stated above two things we try to stay away from on here, Politics & Relgion those are two Taboo topics. I shouldn't have made the remarks I did and just closed the thread. That's my mistake, there will be an addition to the guidlines the next time you check them I assure you.
Need I say more?

[garnet21w]

Aight, got chya. Just avoid politics and religion. SOunds good

[OhioStateBuck]

So why, may I ask, does an X-box thread exist? Doesn't seem to apply to those sports/topics:confused::confused:

Gaming is arguably a sport.

And everything Luke said was factual, as I was at the game he was referring to, I don't think he was calling anyone out, he was just making a point.

[going4broke]

If you are going to ban Luke, then better start to ban the Metcalf info as well.

What is your problem with Metcalf? Did he steal your GF or something? What has he ever done to you? I showed him some of your posts and he just laughed and said "He's a piece of work."
You should be the one who gets banned.

[sectionvguy1]

You had to show him some of my post? See thats where you lose all your credibility. There is no doubt (no one disagrees) that guy checks this site like his life depends on it. I have no issue, I think i just made a point to the topic of this thread "Consistency" that it!

Read what you want, but I think post are very well supported

[BTownClown99]

Thank god you guys aren't mods, people would get banned for talking!

[courtrunner]

You had to show him some of my post? See thats where you lose all your credibility. There is no doubt (no one disagrees) that guy checks this site like his life depends on it. I have no issue, I think i just made a point to the topic of this thread "Consistency" that it!

Read what you want, but I think post are very well supported

im guessing lukelakers got banned for all the right reasons. or else he would not have been banned.
so i think people should just drop this topic

[BTownClown99]

im guessing lukelakers got banned for all the right reasons. or else he would not have been banned.
so i think people should just drop this topic

I agree

[hilly]

I know the situation and Lukelakers needed a time out. It is only a two week ban and I've found - as other mods have as well - that if somebody treats Talksback as a way to attack people, a short vacation will help.
I would say I personally ban one person every six weeks or so, and many have came back and the behavior improved. Of course, some come back from their two week vacation and keep it up. I will then give the individual a 3 month ban. When he comes back, there is no longer a shot of him making an inappropriate post without getting a lifetime ban.
That is my personal banning policy. I also think the other mods follow guidelines similar to my own.

[going4broke]

You had to show him some of my post? See thats where you lose all your credibility. There is no doubt (no one disagrees) that guy checks this site like his life depends on it. I have no issue, I think i just made a point to the topic of this thread "Consistency" that it!

Read what you want, but I think post are very well supported


You seem to know everything. The fact is Metcalf doesn't come on this site half as much as you think he does. But whenever some of the mods want info or columns he obliges out of respect for his friends.
It is very obvious to me that all you want to do is put successful and up and coming programs down (see Batavia girls) and throw out false information (see Geneseo and CaledoniaMumford recruiting).
Your posts are anything but well supported.

[Giles]

I know the situation and Lukelakers needed a time out. It is only a two week ban and I've found - as other mods have as well - that if somebody treats Talksback as a way to attack people, a short vacation will help.
I would say I personally ban one person every six weeks or so, and many have came back and the behavior improved. Of course, some come back from their two week vacation and keep it up. I will then give the individual a 3 month ban. When he comes back, there is no longer a shot of him making an inappropriate post without getting a lifetime ban.
That is my personal banning policy. I also think the other mods follow guidelines similar to my own.

A "personal banning policy" doesn't seem right. There should be one unfiorm policy. Moderators could interpret the policy a little differently but it should be one policy.

[hilly]

A "personal banning policy" doesn't seem right. There should be one unfiorm policy. Moderators could interpret the policy a little differently but it should be one policy.

Each case is taken by one of the mods and each of us makes the decision. Often we will ask each other for advice before doing anything. Drew wanted to ban Lukelakers a while back and he asked the other mods, and we said to give him some time. A two week break is deserved.
One former famous jerk on this site that nobody likes I banned for two weeks, then the second time I wanted to make it a permanent ban, but Drew talked me out of it, and I gave him a two month break. Of course, he is now gone for good because he started back with inappropriate behavior.
It is a case by case type of thing and if you cause problems, you could get banned. 99-percent of the people on this site will never have a problem. But there is that 1-percent that causes problems. WE are not Nazis or anything; when somebody is banned, they did something wrong.

[BTownClown99]

The mods interpret banning and infractions as they come.

And the breaks do help, I know my year being banned and forced to talk under a different name really changed my attitude here.

[Giles]

Each case is taken by one of the mods and each of us makes the decision. Often we will ask each other for advice before doing anything. Drew wanted to ban Lukelakers a while back and he asked the other mods, and we said to give him some time. A two week break is deserved.
One former famous jerk on this site that nobody likes I banned for two weeks, then the second time I wanted to make it a permanent ban, but Drew talked me out of it, and I gave him a two month break. Of course, he is now gone for good because he started back with inappropriate behavior.
It is a case by case type of thing and if you cause problems, you could get banned. 99-percent of the people on this site will never have a problem. But there is that 1-percent that causes problems. WE are not Nazis or anything; when somebody is banned, they did something wrong.

I figured that's how the process worked but why not have a set policy to reduce the criticism or at least the questions about bans.

In any organization, society, community etc.... it's always 1% of the population that causes all the problems... but it's good practice to be transparent with how you deal with that 1%. Saying "trust us" doesn't really work... (see Guantanamo Bay)

At least start with the steps of discipline that will be imposed such as...

1st - Written warning from Moderator
2nd - Two week ban
3rd - Three month ban
4th - One year ban
5th - Lifetime

And on a final note, it's awfully suspicious when Drew bans someone for something on a thread about Finney or when UNCTarHeels says "I'm a republican" and closes a thread opened to celebrating Bush being out of office. Integrity of the moderators is absolutely crucial to build a site like this and needs to be assured. Or else it's going to remain the GR/Bath/Dundee board forever.

[garnet21w]

wow... now that you mention it, there are mostly bath Gr and dundee people here ha

[DrewVT6]

I figured that's how the process worked but why not have a set policy to reduce the criticism or at least the questions about bans.

In any organization, society, community etc.... it's always 1% of the population that causes all the problems... but it's good practice to be transparent with how you deal with that 1%. Saying "trust us" doesn't really work... (see Guantanamo Bay)

At least start with the steps of discipline that will be imposed such as...

1st - Written warning from Moderator
2nd - Two week ban
3rd - Three month ban
4th - One year ban
5th - Lifetime


It's actually not even as strict as that. If you have three infractions of the posting guidelines within two weeks you get a 10 day suspension. After returning from suspension and continued disregard for the guidelines we'll suspend a user for longer periods of time, until we give a permanent banning.

In certain situations we automatically suspend the users posting ability, to avoid a kamikaze mission around the site, without any warnings. In that case we'll ban the users IP address or group of IPs to avoid further disturbances.

Lastly, it's funny to me and people that know me well that I'm viewed as a Finney 'supporter' given my history.

[bcherry8]

The mods do the best job they can. It's not like they're paid for the things they do. This is all volunteer work that they enjoy, and do to keep these boards up and running.
Yes, but the unreasonable banning of Lukelakers hurt the quality of the forums.

[Section5sportsguy]

It's actually not even as strict as that. If you have three infractions of the posting guidelines within two weeks you get a 10 day suspension. After returning from suspension and continued disregard for the guidelines we'll suspend a user for longer periods of time, until we give a permanent banning.

In certain situations we automatically suspend the users posting ability, to avoid a kamikaze mission around the site, without any warnings. In that case we'll ban the users IP address or group of IPs to avoid further disturbances.

Lastly, it's funny to me and people that know me well that I'm viewed as a Finney 'supporter' given my history.

Haha most of us know little about you.

[boobiemiles]

Yes, but the unreasonable banning of Lukelakers hurt the quality of the forums.
You know about the entire situation?

[bcherry8]

You know about the entire situation?
Lukelakers sent me PM's explaining it all, but they will not be posted, as they are PRIVATE messages

[ProudestMonkey27]

I guess the powers that be have their reasons. There should be more attention spent with vulgar remarks and uneducated rants though. luke is passionate about what he believes and what he believes in is section V sports

[ProudestMonkey27]

This statement is only to help out UNC.

Isn't a Demon Decon a religious icon? there is not supposed to be any religion or politics any more right?

I think he should loose it. It doesn't fit him well:)

[BTownClown99]

Honestly, the banning of one person does not affect the forums at all. We still get inforation and that is what we're about. Getting information in a more enjoyable way than just looking up stats.

I highly doubt the mods have it out for any person on this site, so why would they ban people for no reason?

The goal is to get as many people here as possible so banning only happens when something is really wrong. Luke could have done many little things before and this was just the straw tha broke the camels back.

[DrewVT6]

No threads just to discuss religion and politics.

[ProudestMonkey27]

He told me none "PERIOD!" He didn't tell me the threads thing I don't think. But, I was just trying to help him out. Does Unc enjoy the new avitar or something?

[DSport]

I'm a fan of Luke's posts and his announcing as well but that doesn't mean rules can be broken. I'm glad everyone is supporting Luke but rules are rules. He's usually great at walking the line but when he steps over, something has to be done. I'm looking forward to his return because he does post good info and keeps things comical.

[ProudestMonkey27]

It is somewhat a nuisance that the TB mods have the consistency of an unstable emulsion, ( an emulsion comes together and rapidly breaks down)But I am sure they are working on that. For free, I might add...

Anyway hats off to you guys for sifting through this, what can be crap at times, and leaving us with good clean desirable material.

I do really think that this is a useful blog that many people enjoy

hang in there mods

[UNCTarheels]

He told me none "PERIOD!" He didn't tell me the threads thing I don't think. But, I was just trying to help him out. Does Unc enjoy the new avitar or something?


I lost a bet I have to keep the Avatar till Monday that's when the two weeks are up.

[ProudestMonkey27]

Ouch, I would bet $100 before I flew a Pitt or G-town flag

[ProudestMonkey27]

Good point. It would be arrogant to assume that their are no homosexual atheletes in section V. Most likely there are many. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but the slur may be offensive to some people.

[ProudestMonkey27]

I lost a bet I have to keep the Avatar till Monday that's when the two weeks are up.

You still should give yourself a notification for it:)

[Giles]

Good point. It would be arrogant to assume that their are no homosexual atheletes in section V. Most likely there are many. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but the slur may be offensive to some people.

Great post and in my opinion that slur should be offensive to all people... it's a word of hate used to belittle and harass a group of people based on their sexual orientation.

[BTownClown99]

I don't think the term was used in seriousness honestly. Yes it was offensive and not doubt infraction/ban worthy but now there is no need to start up talk about people and if their gay or straight.

I'm not trying to back JBF by saying this, just trying to get everyone here to not continue the conversation, which is just as bad.

[ProudestMonkey27]

Luke got two weeks because some of you disagree with him why can this slide.

this is what I mean... volatile consistency... Is he a mod or something?


And I spend a night in jail, for what amounts to, a no more bush thread and a couple tasteful jokes:D

[BTownClown99]

Luke got two weeks because some of you disagree with him why can this slide.

this is what I mean... volatile consistency... Is he a mod or something?


And I spend a night in jail, for what amounts to, a no more bush thread and a couple tasteful jokes:D

It didn't slide. JBF got an infraction. So there you go, the mods got him.

[ProudestMonkey27]

Clown, Im not out to get anyone, or sick the Mod squad on anyone. I enjoy this site as a clean healthy escape from everyday life with a few intelegent times shared with, some known and anonymous friends...

[quesadilla]

I didnt post that at all to get JBF in trouble.

[BTownClown99]

Cool then. Glad we have an understanding here. Good game.

[Giles]

It didn't slide. JBF got an infraction. So there you go, the mods got him.

There is no comparison between what Luke said and what JBF said.

My plea though is for a thorough, objective policy that outlines specficially what is and what is not an infraction and provides specific consequences for each. Also, there should be a scale or an immediate suspension for anyone who uses hate speech.

I don't know what JBF's punishment was.... which is exactly my point. If these boards are to become what they can become then transparency and accountability (by posters and moderators) is an absolute must. If those aren't followed then this site won't last.... which is not what any of us want to see.

[BTownClown99]

I didnt post that at all to get JBF in trouble.

Na you didn't, he got in trouble before hand. No big deal though, us in BTown are used to infractions by now.

[BTownClown99]

There is no comparison between what Luke said and what JBF said.

My plea though is for a thorough, objective policy that outlines specficially what is and what is not an infraction and provides specific consequences for each. Also, there should be a scale or an immediate suspension for anyone who uses hate speech.

I don't know what JBF's punishment was.... which is exactly my point. If these boards are to become what they can become then transparency and accountability (by posters and moderators) is an absolute must. If those aren't followed then this site won't last.... which is not what any of us want to see.

The hate speech was clearly a quick joke out of being upset that Batavia. It was nothing serious. He didn't direct the saying at gay people saying he hated them or anything.
And how do you know luke hasn't stepped out of line before? I don't know but maybe you know since you seem to follow him around all the time and so know that he has never crossed the line in the past.

[Giles]

The hate speech was clearly a quick joke out of being upset that Batavia. It was nothing serious. He didn't direct the saying at gay people saying he hated them or anything..

Hate speech is not a joke and it is serious. You don't have to direct speech like that by saying "Dear person who is gay,"

It'd be the same thing as coming on here after playing a predominently black school and saying we played against the "SuperN-words" last night.

And how do you know luke hasn't stepped out of line before? I don't know but maybe you know since you seem to follow him around all the time and so know that he has never crossed the line in the past.

You sound like a child. "You seem to follow him around".... what does that even mean?

I don't know the specifics of LukeLakers situation but the response from the moderators that "it's our decision" is not sound.

I'm advocate for this site and I simply want to be run effectively... and IMO, right now, it's not.

[DrewVT6]

There is no comparison between what Luke said and what JBF said.

My plea though is for a thorough, objective policy that outlines specficially what is and what is not an infraction and provides specific consequences for each. Also, there should be a scale or an immediate suspension for anyone who uses hate speech.

I don't know what JBF's punishment was.... which is exactly my point. If these boards are to become what they can become then transparency and accountability (by posters and moderators) is an absolute must. If those aren't followed then this site won't last.... which is not what any of us want to see.

Guys calm down on the comparing of each incident to what luke said or didn't say. His was a different situation that he can choose to discuss with you individually or not. Other than that it's a private issue.

We will give infractions to anyone who doesn't follow our posting guidelines. If you read them and understand the purpose of this site, you'll be fine.

[DrewVT6]

The hate speech was clearly a quick joke out of being upset that Batavia. It was nothing serious. He didn't direct the saying at gay people saying he hated them or anything.

This is probably a good example of a teenagers view of the situation. Way too many teens use the word as part of their daily lexicon. You can't get away with that in a public forum and you certainly won't get away with it in college. We have been VERY strict from day 1 about any form of slur against homosexuals and even jokes insinuating them. We won't have it.

I'd say don't joke about it here, but really, don't joke about it anywhere.

[JohnBlevinsFan]

There is no comparison between what Luke said and what JBF said.

My plea though is for a thorough, objective policy that outlines specficially what is and what is not an infraction and provides specific consequences for each. Also, there should be a scale or an immediate suspension for anyone who uses hate speech.

I don't know what JBF's punishment was.... which is exactly my point. If these boards are to become what they can become then transparency and accountability (by posters and moderators) is an absolute must. If those aren't followed then this site won't last.... which is not what any of us want to see.

In all seriousness, I apologize for what I said. I did not mean for it to become such a giant discussion.

As Drew said, it is a common slang used today among teenagers and I honestly thought nothing of it as I posted it, hence why I didn't even edit it.

I think everyone on this site is blowing everything out of proportion lately. Can't we all remember that this is a casual high school sports forum? Stop trying to prove everyone wrong with stupid loopholes. Moderators are people too, their consistency will vary among situations. Don't be so quick to burn them. I get stressed out when I have to sift through 200 new posts, imagine having to read and analyze every single one to make sure it is appropriate.

I don't hate homosexuals, I never implied that I did. I think everyone has to stop trying to be so politically correct that chaos ensues. So if you can't handle things that may occur like that in the future, stop looking at the site. Nobody is forcing you to.

[bcherry8]

Another issue: Multiple profiles.

I was recently banned for a week for having another profile, and was threatened with a lifetime ban if I ever posted from it again. However, there are multiple users on this site that openly admit to and post from alternate profiles, yet not a thing has been done. Im not saying they should all be banned, I am just pointing out that my banning was an end product of a double standard, and probably made by a moderator with a personal problem with me. So does the moderator in question wanna man up and admit to it? Or are you going to continue to give all of the mods a blackened name?

[quesadilla]

Another issue: Multiple profiles.

I was recently banned for a week for having another profile, and was threatened with a lifetime ban if I ever posted from it again. However, there are multiple users on this site that openly admit to and post from alternate profiles, yet not a thing has been done. Im not saying they should all be banned, I am just pointing out that my banning was an end product of a double standard, and probably made by a moderator with a personal problem with me. So does the moderator in question wanna man up and admit to it? Or are you going to continue to give all of the mods a blackened name?

I had another profile for like two days, for a certain reason that Boobie knows.. and I didn't know anyone would be banned for that. I don't see what's wrong with that as long as you're not doing anything wrong.

[GR B BALL 21]

Anyone with more than one profile should receive a lifetime ban. This is possibly the worst violation of the rules imaginable. A zero tolerance policy should be enforced. But seriously, why does it even matter if you dont cause any trouble? And i dont think that multiple user names was mentioned in the posting guidelines as being unacceptable?

[GRBball2008]

Anyone with more than one profile should receive a lifetime ban. This is possibly the worst violation of the rules imaginable. A zero tolerance policy should be enforced. But seriously, why does it even matter if you dont cause any trouble? And i dont think that multiple user names was mentioned in the posting guidelines as being unacceptable?
//this

[JohnBlevinsFan]

Another issue: Multiple profiles.

I was recently banned for a week for having another profile, and was threatened with a lifetime ban if I ever posted from it again. However, there are multiple users on this site that openly admit to and post from alternate profiles, yet not a thing has been done. Im not saying they should all be banned, I am just pointing out that my banning was an end product of a double standard, and probably made by a moderator with a personal problem with me. So does the moderator in question wanna man up and admit to it? Or are you going to continue to give all of the mods a blackened name?

And once again, as I said, people blowing things out of proportion.

Just because something happened to you, doesn't mean you have to bring others down. Thats called being a nark

[OhioStateBuck]

He was questioning the moderator...not the people with two accounts.

[BTownClown99]

Anyone with more than one profile should receive a lifetime ban. This is possibly the worst violation of the rules imaginable. A zero tolerance policy should be enforced. But seriously, why does it even matter if you dont cause any trouble? And i dont think that multiple user names was mentioned in the posting guidelines as being unacceptable?

Haha well I would say you have an acceptable excuse. I don't know the specifics on this. I don't see a problem unless you cause trouble.

***JBF is not mine or BDevil's name. It is Justin Burgler's and he in fact visits this site on occasion. I just borrowed his password for a bit. So technically I didn't have 2 names.

[TopShelf]

//this

Perfect.

[GR B BALL 21]

Perfect.

haha ik. i had to.

[bcherry8]

I had another profile for like two days, for a certain reason that Boobie knows.. and I didn't know anyone would be banned for that. I don't see what's wrong with that as long as you're not doing anything wrong.
Like I said, I think it only happened to me because there are certain mods that dont care for me, because im not going to bend my thoughts to appease them.

[BTownClown99]

Like I said, I think it only happened to me because there are certain mods that dont care for me, because im not going to bend my thoughts to appease them.

I am pretty sure me and Striker are way beyond the mods "not caring for us"

[greeceman]

I think there very fair and do a great job controlling this site from getting out of controll.

[BTownClown99]

I think there very fair and do a great job controlling this site from getting out of controll.

My new favorite person on this site.

[greeceman]

haha thanks,I just don't get some people , when they give you a warning you stop doing what your doing if you don't you get banned it's that simple.

[BTownClown99]

haha thanks,I just don't get some people , when they give you a warning you stop doing what your doing if you don't you get banned it's that simple.

I know. I mean, I was banned, but well aware of what I did.

[bcherry8]

haha thanks,I just don't get some people , when they give you a warning you stop doing what your doing if you don't you get banned it's that simple.
I understand that. The reason I brought up some of these topics is because both of my bannings came without any warning whatsoever.

I think there very fair and do a great job controlling this site from getting out of controll.
Suck-up.

[BTownClown99]

Suck-up.

Seriously right now Michael Vick??? You're gunna make dogs fight in here?

[BTownStriker11]

Seriously right now Michael Vick??? You're gunna make dogs fight in here?

People have referred to acting crazy in this room

[bcherry8]

Seriously right now Michael Vick??? You're gunna make dogs fight in here?
What in the blue hell are you talking about?

[BTownStriker11]

What in the blue hell are you talking about?

You need to calm down guy

[BTownClown99]

What in the blue hell are you talking about?

It's a joke because Michael Vick was caught running an underground dog fighting league.

And people often use a common saying "making dogs fight" when there is a type of argument.

Ergo, Michael Vick makes dogs fight. I didn't realize I had to break it down step by step like that.

[bcherry8]

It's a joke because Michael Vick was caught running an underground dog fighting league.

And people often use a common saying "making dogs fight" when there is a type of argument.

Ergo, Michael Vick makes dogs fight. I didn't realize I had to break it down step by step like that.
I know all about the Michael Vick fiasco, I have just never seen that phrase "making dogs fight" used to describe a debate in a forum.

You need to calm down guy
I was calm the whole time, I was just quoting The Rock. lol

[BonniesTRelph]

I know all about the Michael Vick fiasco, I have just never seen that phrase "making dogs fight" used to describe a debate in a forum.


I was calm the whole time, I was just quoting The Rock. lol

Yeah zicc "just bring it" lol

[BTownStriker11]

Yeah zicc "just bring it" lol

You = Clown