NFL Off-season

[bath#1]

I always enjoy the offseason in the Nfl. You have free agent signing's, the scouting combine, the draft, and training camp.

Talk it up!

[coachstew]

I think this off season will tell a lot about the Eagles and how they are planning to move forward. If they get a legitimate no. 1 receiver like Boldin or Tony Gonzalez it shows they are thinking of winning next year. If not, I think you may start to see a decline in the organization.

[bath#1]

I think this off season will tell a lot about the Eagles and how they are planning to move forward. If they get a legitimate no. 1 receiver like Boldin or Tony Gonzalez it shows they are thinking of winning next year. If not, I think you may start to see a decline in the organization.

I just saw on espn that T.J. Houshmanzedah may be going to Phili

[BathRamsFan]

I just saw on espn that T.J. Houshmanzedah may be going to Phili

Being the Steeler and Donovan fan that I am, I would love that on BOTH angles! lol How much worse could cinci get without Hushi? LOL

[Section5sportsguy]

i'll have my NFL Draft preview up in March.

[TurnTwo]

i'll have my NFL Draft preview up in March.

Your college football preview was ridiculous, haha.

How long did that take?

[Section5sportsguy]

Your college football preview was ridiculous, haha.

How long did that take?

Not long, its all info ive been compiling. It wasnt as nearly comprehensive as I like, I might add a part two.

[Ramfan07]

vick will goto cowboys, i wonder if the cowboys camp is in prison

[hilly]

I am an NFL junky as you all know.
The next big thing is the combine, and now I have NFL Network so I can watch it!!!!!! There is where the real draft boards will be determined. Then as we approach the draft you will start seeing some trades being made and the big free agents going off the board. The days before the draft are usually crazy with rumors and trade talk.
Then there is the draft weekend. I don't miss a pick.
Right away they get the rookies out there working in offseason drills and the rest of free agency before the offseason starts.

I will know everything about the draft by the time it is here and will be doing a preview of the Buffalo Bills draft on The Batavian, as well as following each pick the team makes. I will be doing live updates on the Web site.

[BTownStriker11]

Combine is the worst thing in the NFL
Everyone is obsessed with 40 times with no pads on

Put pads on and run some 11 v 11 scrimmages then we'll see whos really good

[BonniesTRelph]

sweet hilly, i am in the works of compiling my annual mock draft. i have got alot of free time at bonas lol.

[Section5sportsguy]

sweet hilly, i am in the works of compiling my annual mock draft. i have got alot of free time at bonas lol.

I am currently working on my draft preview, but right now im finishing part two of my college spring preview.

[BathRamsFan]

Combine is the worst thing in the NFL
Everyone is obsessed with 40 times with no pads on

Put pads on and run some 11 v 11 scrimmages then we'll see whos really good

I agree wholeheartedly. The combine has taken such importance because the NFL coaches think so highly of themselve and think the can turn athleticism and speed into a great football player. One place I will give New England credit...they know how to pick good fOOTBALL players!

[BonniesTRelph]

zicc is totally right about that

[sportsfan4life]

the offseason is exciting, every morning i sit and watch sportscenter hoping the bills will pick someone up but of course they refuse to spend some money.

[bath#1]

Boldin wants out of Arizona. I think it's a bad choice by him

[anth31]

Boldin wants out of Arizona. I think it's a bad choice by him

maybe he'll go to miami haha. that would be awesome, he would be a nice addition with tedd ginn.

[BTownStriker11]

Boldin wants out of Arizona. I think it's a bad choice by him

Smart move. He isnt getting the respect he deserves. They pay him much less than Fitz and they dont utilize him like they should. He'll tear up wherever he goes

[bath#1]

Smart move. He isnt getting the respect he deserves. They pay him much less than Fitz and they dont utilize him like they should. He'll tear up wherever he goes

He's had his contract restructured 3 times in his short career though. He fits goood with Larry.

[bath#1]

maybe he'll go to miami haha. that would be awesome, he would be a nice addition with tedd ginn.

That would be insane

[SaveUs222]

Just saw on ESPN.com that Bret Favre informed his agent he is retiring..... Any Thoughts?

[boobiemiles]

Just saw on ESPN.com that Bret Favre informed his agent he is retiring..... Any Thoughts?
Thank god!

[coachstew]

Just saw on ESPN.com that Bret Favre informed his agent he is retiring..... Any Thoughts?


A good move, but I wouldn't write him off for next year just yet.

If this does happen what a disaster that move is for the Jets. They gave up a pick for Favre to get them to the postseason, and he got them no where. Also, they gave up Chad Pennington on wavers and he leads the Dolphins to the playoffs. Now Favre retires after one season.

[bath#1]

A good move, but I wouldn't write him off for next year just yet.

If this does happen what a disaster that move is for the Jets. They gave up a pick for Favre to get them to the postseason, and he got them no where. Also, they gave up Chad Pennington on wavers and he leads the Dolphins to the playoffs. Now Favre retires after one season.

The Jets didn't know Pennington was going to have that good of a year. Any team in need of a QB would of taken Favre.

[Spen Mic 4]

Just saw on ESPN.com that Bret Favre informed his agent he is retiring..... Any Thoughts?

Why did he even bother coming back this year...its about damn time.

And if anyone tries arguing with me, please dont bring up "but he made the pro bowl." Because the probowl in a complete joke. How else does a Bills offensive lineman, Brett Favre, and many players make it?

[bath#1]

Why did he even bother coming back this year...its about damn time.

And if anyone tries arguing with me, please dont bring up "but he made the pro bowl." Because the probowl in a complete joke. How else does a Bills offensive lineman, Brett Favre, and many players make it?

He came back for the love of the game.

[EaglePride]

Rumor has it that the Vikings could be interested.

[GRBball2008]

Brett Farve is the friend at a party who just won't go home. It 4:30 a.m. and hes the guy still hanging around. Hopefully Brett is serious and his "ride to pick him up to take him home" is actually here this time.

[EaglePride]

brett farve is the friend at a party who just won't go home. It 4:30 a.m. And hes the guy still hanging around. Hopefully brett is serious and his "ride to pick him up to take him home" is actually here this time.

lmao!!!

[coachstew]

He came back for the love of the game.

I'm a big Favre fan, but I don't buy this one. I really think when he decided to come back he believe the Packers would just be falling on himself to have him back. When they weren't and he went to the Jets I think he was a little shocked. He played valiantly this year, not well down the stretch but valiantly. I am glad he is retiring now. The Jets are the biggest losers here.

[SaveUs222]

Brett Farve is the friend at a party who just won't go home. It 4:30 a.m. and hes the guy still hanging around. Hopefully Brett is serious and his "ride to pick him up to take him home" is actually here this time.

Hahaha your hilarious man lol :D

[bath#1]

I'm a big Favre fan, but I don't buy this one. I really think when he decided to come back he believe the Packers would just be falling on himself to have him back. When they weren't and he went to the Jets I think he was a little shocked. He played valiantly this year, not well down the stretch but valiantly. I am glad he is retiring now. The Jets are the biggest losers here.

The Jets should have known this would happen

[boobiemiles]

Brett Farve is the friend at a party who just won't go home. It 4:30 a.m. and hes the guy still hanging around. Hopefully Brett is serious and his "ride to pick him up to take him home" is actually here this time.
Hahahahaha perfect analogy

[Rams15]

Combine is the worst thing in the NFL
Everyone is obsessed with 40 times with no pads on

Put pads on and run some 11 v 11 scrimmages then we'll see whos really good

You are right. 40's only give you a piece of what an athlete can do, but the NFL uses it as a major barometer of talent/skill. I was watching ESPN this morning and a kid ( Darius Hayward or something like that ) ran a 4.26 40 yard dash. He then turned around and ran a 4.27... so it was legit. The kid who finished behind him ran a 4.29. That's sick fast....

[coachstew]

You are right. 40's only give you a piece of what an athlete can do, but the NFL uses it as a major barometer of talent/skill. I was watching ESPN this morning and a kid ( Darius Hayward or something like that ) ran a 4.26 40 yard dash. He then turned around and ran a 4.27... so it was legit. The kid who finished behind him ran a 4.29. That's sick fast....


I agree on the 40 times, I think way to much value is placed on those. I bet Emmitt Smith's 40 time wasn't that impressive, he turned out alright. I do think when it is all said and done the guys form Missourri Macklin I think is his name, will end up being one of the better WR's of recent memory.

[tboner23]

what was the highest rep count for bench this year?

[ak05lp]

the USC kicker did 25

[screamingeagle]

I agree on the 40 times, I think way to much value is placed on those. I bet Emmitt Smith's 40 time wasn't that impressive, he turned out alright. I do think when it is all said and done the guys form Missourri Macklin I think is his name, will end up being one of the better WR's of recent memory.

i think the same can be said for hicks kid from nc fitzgerald type only bigger he is somewhere around 6-4 great hands physical wont outrun though

[boobiemiles]

Thats exactly like I like him.

It's Hakeem Nix. He is a perfect wide receiver. He is a lot like Andre Johnson. Big guy, great hands.

[EaglePride]

what was the highest rep count for bench this year?

I believe it was 39 reps, don't remember the player.

Louis Vasquez, Texas Tech......OL 6'5"........330#

[EaglePride]

I agree on the 40 times, I think way to much value is placed on those. I bet Emmitt Smith's 40 time wasn't that impressive, he turned out alright. I do think when it is all said and done the guys form Missourri Macklin I think is his name, will end up being one of the better WR's of recent memory.

When they find a test to measure disipline, determination and heart these NFL teams will start to consistantly find solid football players. Most teams spend their high picks on athletes instead of football players. Every year we talk about some kids from later rounds that make immediate impacts for their teams. No surprise, those kids were just football players not the best athletes so to speak. I have always said that if you give me 11 FOOTBALL players I will beat 11 ATHLETIC specimens every time. Obviously a combination of both is the jackpot, hence the NFL Hall of Fame.

[boobiemiles]

Not on Madden you won't.

[EaglePride]

Not on Madden you won't.

The players are the least of my problems with Madden......it's finger dexterity.
How the heck do control a game with so many freakin buttons? I gave up Madden when my 7year old kid kicked my butt every time. That was eight years ago, haven't played since.

[anth31]

The players are the least of my problems with Madden......it's finger dexterity.
How the heck do control a game with so many freakin buttons? I gave up Madden when my 7year old kid kicked my butt every time. That was eight years ago, haven't played since.

Play on rookie till you get good haha then go to All-Madden. That's what I did


...Back to off season though. Marvin Harrison will be released within the next couple of days according to his agent. Any ideas about where he might end up?

[soccerstud11]

The players are the least of my problems with Madden......it's finger dexterity.
How the heck do control a game with so many freakin buttons? I gave up Madden when my 7year old kid kicked my butt every time. That was eight years ago, haven't played since.

If you think Madden is hard and has a lot of buttons you should try playing other games.

Also, who said being a kid was easy? See we do stuff that adults can't do! haha

[boobiemiles]

Tell that to Hilly.


And on any video game, get the most athletic person and you will win every time.

[EaglePride]

Play on rookie till you get good haha then go to All-Madden. That's what I did


...Back to off season though. Marvin Harrison will be released within the next couple of days according to his agent. Any ideas about where he might end up?

Not many teams will need him at the #1 reciever slot which he still covets. The only team that needs a #1 and loves older stars is the Raiders. I don't know if they can afford him, they have plenty of salary cap issues.

[boobiemiles]

I think he would have no problem going to a team like Houstin and playing the number 2 spot. Of course though he wants to be on a winning team. I feel like the Eagles are just his calling.

[hilly]

Tell that to Hilly.


And on any video game, get the most athletic person and you will win every time.

Hey now. Wait, you are right.
Speaking of video games .... Godfather II comes out on Friday. Anybody else getting it?

[m0rocco]

Nothing like 100 million for a career 24 sacks and never playing a full season. If he mirrors the seven years he already played with these seven years he just signed for it'll look like this:

4.17 million per sack

369K a tackle

1.35 million per start (played but did not start in 16 additional games)

Sounds like a deal. I am sure he will win the Redskins many Super Bowls.

Anyone notice that Julius Peppers was tagged and his cost to be tagged was about 16million? Holy crap DE's make way too much. What is wrong with our world.

[panthersoccer8]

Nothing like 100 million for a career 24 sacks and never playing a full season. If he mirrors the seven years he already played with these seven years he just signed for it'll look like this:

4.17 million per sack

369K a tackle

1.35 million per start (played but did not start in 16 additional games)

Sounds like a deal. I am sure he will win the Redskins many Super Bowls.

Anyone notice that Julius Peppers was tagged and his cost to be tagged was about 16million? Holy crap DE's make way too much. What is wrong with our world.

ahh i hate this!

the titans being my favorite team was known for their defense and they let the best defensive player get away.

they mess things up every off season need a receiver for the last 4 years or so an dstill havent got one

[bath#1]

Albert Haynesworth is not worth $100 mill deal

[boobiemiles]

I would NEVER pay anybody with Haynesworth's resume that money.

The only instance would be if I were a very good team thats one player from going to the super bowl. And NO DT is that big of an impact player.

He's just too old. He's a lazy player coming off a contract year. The first two years in a big 7 year deal are honeymoon years. He's injury prone. He's OLD.

Now, Bart Scott is an excellent pickup.

[EaglePride]

I would NEVER pay anybody with Haynesworth's resume that money.

The only instance would be if I were a very good team thats one player from going to the super bowl. And NO DT is that big of an impact player.

He's just too old. He's a lazy player coming off a contract year. The first two years in a big 7 year deal are honeymoon years. He's injury prone. He's OLD.

Now, Bart Scott is an excellent pickup.

Easy with the "old" usage, it makes my back sore and my knee lock up.

Owners and general managers sometimes pay for "potential" not the actual worth of a player. Potentially, Haynesworth could be a huge part of the Redskins defense. His track record says differently. Snyder has been known to just throw money at players to sign them quickly. It's like he is afraid they will say no. He probably took a call girl to his prom so he didn't have worry about asking a girl out and getting rejected.

[Footballfan65]

It's like he is afraid they will say no. He probably took a call girl to his prom so he didn't have worry about asking a girl out and getting rejected.


oh.....didnt everyone do that?....oops

[m0rocco]

Easy with the "old" usage, it makes my back sore and my knee lock up.

Owners and general managers sometimes pay for "potential" not the actual worth of a player. Potentially, Haynesworth could be a huge part of the Redskins defense. His track record says differently. Snyder has been known to just throw money at players to sign them quickly. It's like he is afraid they will say no. He probably took a call girl to his prom so he didn't have worry about asking a girl out and getting rejected.

Paying Tim Connolly 3.5M a year dispite is injury probs is "potential".....paying a 350lb man who can never stay healthy (and his weight is prob part of the reason) over 14M a year is just retarded. I am sorry could not think of a good NFL player to make that comparision to. Tim is so just skilled he was the first person who came to mind.

And to Boobie's point, for a DT? Really? I am sorry but, in my opinion, the two best players in the league are Manning and Brady and all of these HUGE DT's and DE's make more than them? The other thing too, not much with DE but more with DT.....good or great DT's are not hard to get in the draft. Look at what NE and NYG and TN and BALT (all teams who have usually good D's) do every draft - they draft the biggest/nastiest/crazy guys they can find in the first couple rounds of the draft and usually within the first year they are starters.

It amazes me these GM's spend so much money on FA's. These are rich successful people yet they are some of the dumbest arounds. For the most part, the teams who have won SB's in the recent past - all built through the draft. It's drafting and trades, not FA's, that make a team a winning team.

[anth31]

Matt Cassel just got traded to the Kansas City Chiefs according to the NFL Network.

[boobiemiles]

He'll do good there. Like I said earlier. I see them in the playoffs in two or three years.


And to M0Rocco's point. I AGREE!! The NFL has undergone this great revolution where they are now hiring young coaches that have unlimited potential. If you notice, Herm Edwards doesn't have a job anywhere. If this were the old NFL he would be the first one rehired. But something that still hasn't happened is that they are still throwing money at guys who are entering the second half of their career. Why? Especially when it's not a skill position. I can understand giving an old quarterback money because you have seen what they can do, last year. But why Haynesworth? That just doesn't make sense.

[me43]

Cowboys aquired john kitna and signed keith brookings. Go Cowboys!

[bath#1]

T.O. released by Cowboys today.

What does everyone think about this move?

[GRBball2008]

Cowboys are one of my favorite teams, and i like TO.
with that being said releasing him is the best move they could have possibly made. He is a huge liability.

[m0rocco]

T.O. released by Cowboys today.

What does everyone think about this move?

Eh, why keep the player who drops more balls than anyone else in the league in like the past decade for how much he costs.

[EaglePride]

Cowboys are one of my favorite teams, and i like TO.
with that being said releasing him is the best move they could have possibly made. He is a huge liability.

I read that they released safety Roy Williams today also.

[bath#1]

He causes to many problems for whatever team he plays for. I hope the next team he plays for can straighten him up and keep him out of the media haha.

[bath#1]

Cowboys are one of my favorite teams, and i like TO.
with that being said releasing him is the best move they could have possibly made. He is a huge liability.

Roy Williams (#11) can fill his spot. I dont see a receiver problem after releasing Owens

[GRBball2008]

Roy Williams (#11) can fill his spot. I dont see a receiver problem after releasing Owens

No neither do I. They still have Williams, and a great receiving TE in Witten.

[bath#1]

No neither do I. They still have Williams, and a great receiving TE in Witten.

Sam Hurd and Patrick Crayton also. They still have Barber and Felix Jones too

[GRBball2008]

Sam Hurd and Patrick Crayton also. They still have Barber and Felix Jones too

Barber and Jones are one of my favorite RB combos.

[bath#1]

Barber and Jones are one of my favorite RB combos.
As long as they both stay healthy their gonna put up huge numbers.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys won the super bowl without T.O. haha:p

[anth31]

Just Kidding Miami won't get him PARCELLS HATES T.O.

[EaglePride]

TO's goin to Miami I'm callin it. Parcells loves gettin the Cowboys on the Dolphins. They might as well start calling them the Miami Cowboys haha

I don't believe Parcells would ever allow a selfish player on his team. TO is a great receiver but always a distraction for the team he is on. No way Parcells would even consider him. I would be totally shocked. It snows in Miami before TO goes there under Parcells!!

[soccerstud11]

T.O. is either going to go to Washington or Oakland.

[EaglePride]

T.O. is either going to go to Washington or Oakland.

Both those teams make perfect sense.

[soccerstud11]

Both those teams make perfect sense.

Oakland will prolly offer him more money but if he plays for Washington he'll have a shot at getting back at Dallas; 2 shots actually.

[GRBball2008]

The Dallas Cowboys.
The New York Giants.
The Washington Redskins.
The Baltimore Ravens.
The San Francisco 49ers.
The Minnesota Vikings.
The Atlanta Falcons.
The Cleveland Browns.
The San Diego Chargers.
The Philadelphia Eagles.
The New York Jets.
The Tennessee Titans.
The St. Louis Rams.


yahoo article (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-teams-that-don-t-want-Terrell-Owens;_ylt=As7Kr3huI_4.KDny1f59wCUazJV4?urn=nfl,14 6116) about TO and teams who dont want him

[EaglePride]

Oakland will prolly offer him more money but if he plays for Washington he'll have a shot at getting back at Dallas; 2 shots actually.

Never under estimate the revenge factor.....lol

[anth31]

The Dallas Cowboys.
The New York Giants.
The Washington Redskins.
The Baltimore Ravens.
The San Francisco 49ers.
The Minnesota Vikings.
The Atlanta Falcons.
The Cleveland Browns.
The San Diego Chargers.
The Philadelphia Eagles.
The New York Jets.
The Tennessee Titans.
The St. Louis Rams.


yahoo article (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-teams-that-don-t-want-Terrell-Owens;_ylt=As7Kr3huI_4.KDny1f59wCUazJV4?urn=nfl,14 6116) about TO and teams who dont want him

yeah I will be retracting my statement haha I saw this article as soon as I said the dolphins will get him. Apparently Parcells is part of some TO deserves a huge wedgie club. I think thats a joke though haha I couldn't tell

[RC_Fan_15]

He should go to the bills

[bath#1]

He should just retire

[tvanek26]

the bills would have to sell the team to afford t.o lol and u dont need that negative affect on the field we already have lynch for that :)

[GRBball2008]

the bills would have to sell the team to afford t.o lol and u dont need that negative affect on the field we already have lynch for that :)
TO would be a bad influence on Marshawn, and vise versa lol

[screamingeagle]

Never under estimate the revenge factor.....lol

i think he goes to philly so him and mcnabb can prove that was really a "made for springer" show last time and they really are buddies!!

[ak05lp]

The bills will not get TO

[soccerstud11]

The Dallas Cowboys.
The New York Giants.
The Washington Redskins.
The Baltimore Ravens.
The San Francisco 49ers.
The Minnesota Vikings.
The Atlanta Falcons.
The Cleveland Browns.
The San Diego Chargers.
The Philadelphia Eagles.
The New York Jets.
The Tennessee Titans.
The St. Louis Rams.


yahoo article (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-teams-that-don-t-want-Terrell-Owens;_ylt=As7Kr3huI_4.KDny1f59wCUazJV4?urn=nfl,14 6116) about TO and teams who dont want him

Are you sure about the Redskins. SI.com said that the Redskins were interested in T.O. and that T.O. would probably go there to get revenge on the Cowboys.

[soccerstud11]

i think he goes to philly so him and mcnabb can prove that was really a "made for springer" show last time and they really are buddies!!

I am a Philly fan. None of us want him back.

[m0rocco]

Are you sure about the Redskins. SI.com said that the Redskins were interested in T.O. and that T.O. would probably go there to get revenge on the Cowboys.

Funny you say that, Skins were the first team that I thought of.

[GRBball2008]

Are you sure about the Redskins. SI.com said that the Redskins were interested in T.O. and that T.O. would probably go there to get revenge on the Cowboys.

I just copied and pasted the list from yahoo lol.

[bath#1]

I just saw on ESPN that T.O. visited the Bills

[bath#1]

More breaking news on ESPN-Terrell Owens and the Buffalo Bills agree on a 1-year deal. There will be a press conference at 6:15

[BigFree5]

More breaking news on ESPN-Terrell Owens and the Buffalo Bills agree on a 1-year deal. There will be a press conference at 6:15

so excited buffalo finally has a star. I dont care if he is trouble he is good

[timothygrimes]

so excited buffalo finally has a star. I dont care if he is trouble he is good

6.5 MIL for the year...

[pcssoccer2]

so excited buffalo finally has a star. I dont care if he is trouble he is goodi think he will cause more drama then play good...

[me43]

Glad the Cowboys got rid of that guy, all he is is a cancer. Good luck Buffalo, wish you all the best eventhough you won't get it with TO.

[anth31]

I think they just got him to sell more tickets because selling more tickets=more money and more money=staying in Buffalo haha. Plus he's good.

[m0rocco]

So I just heard that the Travis Henry kid count is now up to 11 kids from 10 diff mothers and he pays like 170K a month or something in support.

[boobiemiles]

WOW!!!!!!


He had 2 kids with 1 woman. Were they twins?

[boobiemiles]

General ticket sales aren't nearly as big as it is lived up to be.


The money is made on box seats and merchandise.

[TurnTwo]

General ticket sales aren't nearly as big as it is lived up to be.


The money is made on box seats and merchandise.

TO will bring in a lot of the latter.

[EaglePride]

WOW!!!!!!


He had 2 kids with 1 woman. Were they twins?

This is my chuckle for the day...thanks.