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GoCougars3

03-12-2009, 06:48 AM

Who does everybody think the most outstanding players are going to be next year? This can be anybody from any team and from any class. Lets here some thoughts..

soccerstud11

03-12-2009, 04:08 PM

Eli Vitale.

cougarfan11

03-12-2009, 04:39 PM

Eli Vitale.

as much as i hate to say it. i agree

devster5534

03-12-2009, 05:27 PM

Derek Holmes, Webster Christian

BDevil09

03-12-2009, 06:38 PM

Stephen Baker-McQuaid, Marcelino Figueroa- Freddie Thomas

anth31

03-12-2009, 06:58 PM

Rob Freeman-Batavia

BDevil09

03-12-2009, 06:58 PM

haha outer

boobiesmiles

03-12-2009, 07:27 PM

Eddie Bower

cougarfan11

03-12-2009, 10:01 PM

Eddie Bower

cody winter- north rose wolcott

DeadWrong41

03-12-2009, 10:15 PM

John Smith and Justin Sherrwood from bath on offense will be elite, same with dylan whales on defense

GoCougars3

03-13-2009, 06:46 AM

Derek Holmes, Webster Christian

Who?? I'v never heard of him.

GoCougars3

03-13-2009, 06:49 AM

Stephen Baker-McQuaid, Marcelino Figueroa- Freddie Thomas

I thought Spephen Baker is graduating this year ?

devster5534

03-13-2009, 12:37 PM

Who?? I'v never heard of him.

Honorable Mention AGR from a lowly Class D (or DD, not sure...but low either way) 2 years in a row...easily dominates each game he plays with outstanding ball skills

DrewVT6

03-13-2009, 01:29 PM

Who?? I'v never heard of him.

Holmes plays for Webster Christian AND for EUSA in the summer.

GoCougars3

03-13-2009, 01:37 PM

holmes plays for webster christian and for eusa in the summer.

eusa...?

pcssoccer2

03-13-2009, 06:24 PM

the 6 returning junior starters for perry

BDevil09

03-13-2009, 06:55 PM

I thought Spephen Baker is graduating this year ?

no he's only a junior. And holmes is pretty good for his team and league, but he can't handle the bigger schools.

devster5534

03-13-2009, 08:14 PM

no he's only a junior. And holmes is pretty good for his team and league, but he can't handle the bigger schools.

How would you know he can't handle the bigger schools? When has he faced them? He's played with the same kids on those EUSA teams

salami2043

03-14-2009, 12:06 PM

How would you know he can't handle the bigger schools? When has he faced them? He's played with the same kids on those EUSA teams

I have never heard of this kid. He is definitely not on the roster for any EUSA team, check it out on their website. Even if he were, the idea that he can handle the larger schools is funny. First off, all the talent lies in the Empire United U.S Development Academy team, which is on an entirely different level than the regular 'local' eusa club teams. Not to show any disrespect to the possibility of a D player being able to compete well, it is just that i have been reading alot of rubbish posts on here for years and you cannot extend a players success at the high school level to success at playing with and against true top players. The pace of play is so quick and the style is much different. Has anyone on here, who talks about all these players being good actually seen an ODP team play, or for that matter, the U16 or U18 Empire Academy team. This is somewhat in response to the comments about Baker. The kid is a talent, he is for sure the best pure striker in section five, no question. However, when he competes against proper Development Academy teams from across the nation he can barely get a shot off. This is not a knock against Baker, I am just attempting to explain the idea of proximity to those who think they watch a lot of soccer and thus form opinions and post of something they truly know nothing of. I mean who are you all comparing it too? What level? If you only stay in our area to watch soccer, or if you only watch h.s. soccer, your opinion need not show up on these threads. Gain knowledge and stop spitting all this verbal diarrhea.

soccerstud11

03-14-2009, 12:47 PM

I have never heard of this kid. He is definitely not on the roster for any EUSA team, check it out on their website. Even if he were, the idea that he can handle the larger schools is funny. First off, all the talent lies in the Empire United U.S Development Academy team, which is on an entirely different level than the regular 'local' eusa club teams. Not to show any disrespect to the possibility of a D player being able to compete well, it is just that i have been reading alot of rubbish posts on here for years and you cannot extend a players success at the high school level to success at playing with and against true top players. The pace of play is so quick and the style is much different. Has anyone on here, who talks about all these players being good actually seen an ODP team play, or for that matter, the U16 or U18 Empire Academy team. This is somewhat in response to the comments about Baker. The kid is a talent, he is for sure the best pure striker in section five, no question. However, when he competes against proper Development Academy teams from across the nation he can barely get a shot off. This is not a knock against Baker, I am just attempting to explain the idea of proximity to those who think they watch a lot of soccer and thus form opinions and post of something they truly know nothing of. I mean who are you all comparing it too? What level? If you only stay in our area to watch soccer, or if you only watch h.s. soccer, your opinion need not show up on these threads. Gain knowledge and stop spitting all this verbal diarrhea.

Well since this is a high school sports thread and we are talking about high school soccer, it doesn't matter how any of the kids mentioned would do at an Elite level. All that matters is how good they do at the high school level because that is what we are talking about here.

salami2043

03-14-2009, 01:07 PM

Well since this is a high school sports thread and we are talking about high school soccer, it doesn't matter how any of the kids mentioned would do at an Elite level. All that matters is how good they do at the high school level because that is what we are talking about here.

Exactly my point, thank you. Simply b/c a kid is good in H.S., does not make him a good soccer player. It makes him, at best, a 'good' h.s. player and in the minds of those who know, means absolutely nothing as far talent, not to take away from the passion and energy that surrounds the h.s. game, b/c that is incredible. The ignorance on these threads shines brightly once again.

BDevil09

03-14-2009, 01:53 PM

Exactly my point, thank you. Simply b/c a kid is good in H.S., does not make him a good soccer player. It makes him, at best, a 'good' h.s. player and in the minds of those who know, means absolutely nothing as far talent, not to take away from the passion and energy that surrounds the h.s. game, b/c that is incredible. The ignorance on these threads shines brightly once again.

how good are you?

devster5534

03-14-2009, 10:14 PM

Derek Holmes was on the EUSA team but isn't anymore for reasons certainly not related to his skill level. You've never heard of him because the D&C is infatuated with the higher classes.

DrewVT6

03-14-2009, 10:36 PM

I have never heard of this kid. He is definitely not on the roster for any EUSA team, check it out on their website. Even if he were, the idea that he can handle the larger schools is funny. First off, all the talent lies in the Empire United U.S Development Academy team, which is on an entirely different level than the regular 'local' eusa club teams. Not to show any disrespect to the possibility of a D player being able to compete well, it is just that i have been reading alot of rubbish posts on here for years and you cannot extend a players success at the high school level to success at playing with and against true top players. The pace of play is so quick and the style is much different. Has anyone on here, who talks about all these players being good actually seen an ODP team play, or for that matter, the U16 or U18 Empire Academy team. This is somewhat in response to the comments about Baker. The kid is a talent, he is for sure the best pure striker in section five, no question. However, when he competes against proper Development Academy teams from across the nation he can barely get a shot off. This is not a knock against Baker, I am just attempting to explain the idea of proximity to those who think they watch a lot of soccer and thus form opinions and post of something they truly know nothing of. I mean who are you all comparing it too? What level? If you only stay in our area to watch soccer, or if you only watch h.s. soccer, your opinion need not show up on these threads. Gain knowledge and stop spitting all this verbal diarrhea.

He DEFINITELY played for EUSA last year. He wasn't on their Academy team, just one of the former Jr Rhinos squads.

We're discussing players to watch next year in Section Five, not the nation. If we were doing that we'd be at BigSoccer and only one player from Upstate NY would be in the discussion, but he's at IMG Academy not a HS in NY State.

I understand some people spit out random names that aren't really relevant to the overall scene in Section Five but your hubris filled post adds just as little to the discussion as those silly submissions.

Other players to watch in Section V next year are Nick Garcia plus Simone and Cuomo from Athena.

devster5534

03-14-2009, 10:59 PM

He DEFINITELY played for EUSA last year. He wasn't on their Academy team, just one of the former Jr Rhinos squads.

We're discussing players to watch next year in Section Five, not the nation. If we were doing that we'd be at BigSoccer and only one player from Upstate NY would be in the discussion, but he's at IMG Academy not a HS in NY State.

I understand some people spit out random names that aren't really relevant to the overall scene in Section Five but your hubris filled post adds just as little to the discussion as those silly submissions.

Other players to watch in Section V next year are Nick Garcia plus Simone and Cuomo from Athena.

Agreed on everything, including the names at the end. One question though. Who's at IMG Academy?

DrewVT6

03-14-2009, 11:03 PM

Agreed on everything, including the names at the end. One question though. Who's at IMG Academy?

Gale Agbossoumonde. Originally from Ivory Coast or Liberia, but his family resettled in the Syracuse area and he's now with the US U-20s.

salami2043

03-14-2009, 11:10 PM

Derek Holmes was on the EUSA team but isn't anymore for reasons certainly not related to his skill level. You've never heard of him because the D&C is infatuated with the higher classes.

Actually, I only look at the D & C here and there. However, i do agree that they are obsessed with the larger schools, but those large districts comprise most of their reading base so in many ways they must cater to that population. In regards to your notion that i rely on a newspaper for soccer info, i must confess, you have been greatly mislead. I rely on first hand knowledge. In the last few years I have seen literally hundreds of games, of all levels, in both cities and in rural areas, in New york state and in several other states... h.s., travel, club, odp, and academy...and I have never heard Holmes. What eusa team did this kid play for, just curious considering I know the entire U17 squad and have never caught wind of this talent. Not a real big deal, the kid may be good, but my point stands loud and clear, that 'good' is all a matter of relativity. I am from a very small town and am very aware, as many of you are, that there are players who fans become obsessed with due to the small town atmosphere and lack of outside soccer influence and knowledge that those fans possess. As far as the kid who is curious as to how good I am, i am not sure what that really has to do with anything...but since you are asking me that question, it must be safe to assume that you are simply off the chain...On a side note, the Empire United Development Academy played the Columbus Crew Academy tonight at Sahlens in Buffalo, the U16's lost 1-0, the U18's were ahead 1-0 at the break. Furthermore, I found it interesting that the best soccer in our state outside of NYC was taking place tonight, with TONS of GOOD players, and i did not see any of you there watching the game...it just makes me wonder where and how such unbalanced, yet confident opinions are formed when you have nothing to gauge them against.

salami2043

03-14-2009, 11:12 PM

He DEFINITELY played for EUSA last year. He wasn't on their Academy team, just one of the former Jr Rhinos squads.

We're discussing players to watch next year in Section Five, not the nation. If we were doing that we'd be at BigSoccer and only one player from Upstate NY would be in the discussion, but he's at IMG Academy not a HS in NY State.

I understand some people spit out random names that aren't really relevant to the overall scene in Section Five but your hubris filled post adds just as little to the discussion as those silly submissions.

Other players to watch in Section V next year are Nick Garcia plus Simone and Cuomo from Athena.

Thank you for mentioning Garcia's name, and Gianluca for that matter. Two quality players and finally something i agree with!

DrewVT6

03-14-2009, 11:17 PM

salami2043

03-14-2009, 11:46 PM

I watched the Development Academy games last summer when they were in town. (If I remember correctly they played the Crew at Cal-Mum) If you know of someone who's willing to sponsor me to go to all their games, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Thing I find interesting with the DevAcademy teams is the lack of Rochester area players. Based on our "soccer prowess" one would think our players would make up 90% of the squads.

I agree. There is still a decent amount of players however. Ten on the U16's and eight on the U18's out of section five.

There are many players that could have come out to the U18's this year and did not, for some reason. However, the talent pool for the u18's out of buffalo is just ridiculous, hence the possibility of overlooking of several high quality players out of rochester. Just a thought.

devster5534

03-15-2009, 12:25 AM

I agree. There is still a decent amount of players however. Ten on the U16's and eight on the U18's out of section five.

There are many players that could have come out to the U18's this year and did not, for some reason. However, the talent pool for the u18's out of buffalo is just ridiculous, hence the possibility of overlooking of several high quality players out of rochester. Just a thought.

You just said it yourself. There were many players who could have been on that team but didn't come out. You don't have to be on that team to be a player to watch for. And for your point about a small town being obsessed with a player, Webster isn't a small town. Second of all, he doesn't even live in Webster, he lives in one of the most populated towns (won't mention which, due to the fact that this is the internet) in monroe county

GoCougars3

03-20-2009, 09:37 AM

Gale Agbossoumonde. Originally from Ivory Coast or Liberia, but his family resettled in the Syracuse area and he's now with the US U-20s.

That "kid" looks wayyyy older than he is...

CyyniK thebesthaloplayer

03-21-2009, 03:50 PM

on the derek holms thing...he is good ive played him but he is really close to another on his team and tyler holban i think his name is, is a little better. and stephen baker...hes nasty good ive played with him on empire united and another name is tim crawford for webster thomas hes really good and ived with him also

dyloneus55

04-04-2009, 06:08 PM

Nick Garcia Greece Athena

GoCougars3

04-06-2009, 06:54 AM

Nick Garcia Greece Athena

Best defender in SectionV.

get-it-in

04-06-2009, 07:34 PM

Yosef Menguistab coming out of Wilson... a freshman who led the team to a victory over derek holmes and webster christian

soccer6

04-06-2009, 08:04 PM

NIck garcia is a beast but u guys add Cuomo from athena into this. he definetely is not in their level. i know him and have played with him adn he is nothin special

El Imperator

04-06-2009, 08:22 PM

Michael Jackson... Protect those boys from Neverland.

HFcatch10

04-06-2009, 08:59 PM

David Gaglio- HFL
and pretty much everyone else

brownpaperbag

04-12-2009, 06:05 PM

Holmes plays for Webster Christian AND for EUSA in the summer.

what is EUSA?

brownpaperbag

04-12-2009, 06:05 PM

David Gaglio- HFL
and pretty much everyone else

HFL is so bad
every year they go to the mario tournament and get dumped on and beatebn by usually 3 or 4

CyyniK thebesthaloplayer

04-12-2009, 07:07 PM

HFL is so bad
every year they go to the mario tournament and get dumped on and beatebn by usually 3 or 4
i think your talking about HAC not HFL
HFL is a really good team that won sectionals...but they will be down this year now that jonny day is graduating

jmr4616

04-12-2009, 11:05 PM

HFL will have to rely on a more balanced attack this year as they did the past couple years before this year. Last year trinidad day and burgasser scored almost all of the goals but this year the talented junior-senior next year- class will have to step up. They return all defense and midfield for most part as well as goalie so will still be very strong. Another trip to at least semis is in order.

CyyniK thebesthaloplayer

04-13-2009, 11:48 AM

jmr4616

04-14-2009, 03:29 PM

Your right i doubt they will be able to replace him. I think they will just have to play a different style last year they played a 433 and so this year they will probably go back to the 442 and be more defensive. He was one of the most skilled players in section v last year for sure.

CyyniK thebesthaloplayer

04-15-2009, 04:48 PM

brownpaperbag

04-17-2009, 06:44 PM

i think your talking about HAC not HFL
HFL is a really good team that won sectionals...but they will be down this year now that jonny day is graduating

yea ur right
my bad
it is HAC
sorry HFL

bubbabryant234

04-17-2009, 10:11 PM

I think that some perry players will do really good next year ....

111

04-20-2009, 06:43 AM

Who does everybody think the most outstanding players are going to be next year? This can be anybody from any team and from any class. Lets here some thoughts..

Josh Young, i saw that kid play one game when NRW came to our school.... he's got a cannon foot. Very Impressed, lets see more of Josh this year!!

cougarfan11

04-20-2009, 06:44 AM

Josh Young, i saw that kid play one game when NRW came to our school.... he's got a cannon foot. Very Impressed, lets see more of Josh this year!!

Yeah he does have quite the leg lol. But i dont think coach Martin likes to put him in for some reason

GoCougars3

04-20-2009, 06:51 AM

Josh Young, i saw that kid play one game when NRW came to our school.... he's got a cannon foot. Very Impressed, lets see more of Josh this year!!

hahahahaaha I heard that kid is going to play volleyball next year....

arsenalfan101

04-20-2009, 12:58 PM

Yeah he does have quite the leg lol. But i dont think coach Martin likes to put him in for some reason

If only he had speed.

cougarfan11

04-20-2009, 06:01 PM

If only he had speed.

Yeah, i mean thats what wrong with him mostly, hes slow and seems innexperienced

arsenalfan101

04-20-2009, 07:58 PM

Yeah, i mean thats what wrong with him mostly, hes slow and seems innexperienced

Well, it's kind of hard to be experienced when you don't play in the games. Why are we talking about Josh anyways? From what I've heard, he's not even going to be on the soccer team next year!! I have kind of been fueling it though lol

Cougarfan10

04-24-2009, 06:34 PM

Well, it's kind of hard to be experienced when you don't play in the games. Why are we talking about Josh anyways? From what I've heard, he's not even going to be on the soccer team next year!! I have kind of been fueling it though lol

i agree with 111 even though he isnt the best hes been around sence the beginning and now this is what hes been waiting for..senior year